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[Q] Debranding and Rooting O2 uk

I'm new to android phones so kinda looking at some hand holding atm.
My phone is O2 but atm I'm using tesco's sim in it. When I put a sim in it asks me 2 options and I just select pay as you go (planning to switch to giffgaff at some point).
So a few questions. I want to debrand my phone from all the O2 stuff. Whats the best way to do this?
1: Root it and flash the latest stock rom on it? Or just root it and delete all the 02 stuff from it.
2: If I put a new stock rom on it will the phone still be sim unlocked?
3: I've read a lot of posts about backing up data and stuff but still not 100% how to do this. Could I make a back-up of the whole phone as it is now so that if I do something wrong I can just re-flash it with the original 02 stuff included? In other words can I make a copy of the firmware that is already on there. Not worried about the data.
EDIT: Think I've answered this myself. I can use Rom Manager to back it up to sd card and then put it on my pc for future use if needed.
4: Found this on the forums somewhere. It's for sgs2 but guess the apps are the same as the sgw when it comes to safe removal. Safe apps to removel
Cheers

Think I've answered most of my questions except the most important one to me. So if anyone can help be most appreciative.
As I said my phone is branded with o2 stuff and when I put the sim in it asks me my payment plan, pay monthly or pay as you go (I'm using a tesco sim not o2 and it works fine). If I flash the phone with a stock rom via odin will my phone still be unlocked and just de-branded, or will some nasty o2 bite me in bum and lock my sim to o2 now? Don't want to risk it if that will happen.
Cheers

blitz_32 said:
Think I've answered most of my questions except the most important one to me. So if anyone can help be most appreciative.
As I said my phone is branded with o2 stuff and when I put the sim in it asks me my payment plan, pay monthly or pay as you go (I'm using a tesco sim not o2 and it works fine). If I flash the phone with a stock rom via odin will my phone still be unlocked and just de-branded, or will some nasty o2 bite me in bum and lock my sim to o2 now? Don't want to risk it if that will happen.
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Just to check Network Lock Status [SIM Lock]: Dialler input *#7465625#
You should see this:
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If SIM locked, there is presently no method that is not paid-for, unless someone has come up with a method recently!! So, you will have to pay someone for SIM unlock, based on your IMEI......usually about £15-£20. [To get IMEI from Dialler: *#06#]
Don't like that Payment Plan message....my Phone is on Tesco Ireland network, and I get no messages!!! SIM unlocked should not get messages, IMHO.
BTW, I would not use ROM Manager on this phone, it is not supported, there is no CWM Recovery in ROM Manager list for Galaxy W [GT-i8150].....
be very careful!! you could Brick Phone!!!
Best thing is to Flash CWM for this phone, via ODIN, and do a Nandroid back-up, save to external sd, there is an option, otherwise Nandroid will go to Internal USB Storage....
this will be a snap-shot of everything on your Phone at the moment of back-up.....including all Apps and Data on Internal Storage....
External SD Card is not backed up by Nandroid presently, but it should remain as is, unless you wipe it, or modify data on it.....so moved apps will still be there, for example.
But, before you do, check unlock status, as above, and also is phone rooted, as you may need to root phone, and best way is with Stock Recovery.
Flashing Guides:
Arco's ClockworkMod Recovery Version 5.5.0.4
THE-E Guide to Flashing FW with ODIN, and more!!

Cheers for that Irishpancake. I checked on my phone and all are 'OFF' except Network Lock. So how is it I'm using a non o2 sim in it, Tescos? Guess I may have to pay for it to be unlocked.
I've read all of The-E's guide to flashing (D/L most of the files ready to go and put them in Odin, just not plugged my phone in) but will have to read up more about CWM. Do I do CWM first to back everything up then root the phone before flashing?
One other thing, In a previous post you put up a link to your drop box for a recovery md5. What is this for as I d/l it thinking it was a stock rom but noticed the small file size compared to The-E stock rom in his original post.
Sorry to be a pain but just want to be clear before I start.

blitz_32 said:
Cheers for that Irishpancake. I checked on my phone and all are 'OFF' except Network Lock. So how is it I'm using a non o2 sim in it, Tescos? Guess I may have to pay for it to be unlocked.
I've read all of The-E's guide to flashing (D/L most of the files ready to go and put them in Odin, just not plugged my phone in) but will have to read up more about CWM. Do I do CWM first to back everything up then root the phone before flashing?
One other thing, In a previous post you put up a link to your drop box for a recovery md5. What is this for as I d/l it thinking it was a stock rom but noticed the small file size compared to The-E stock rom in his original post.
Sorry to be a pain but just want to be clear before I start.
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Network Lock is normally called SIM Lock.....sorry, looks like your phone is locked to your SIM provider???
Perhaps O2 and Tesco have a relationship....in Ireland Tesco uses O2 Network, as a Virtual Operator, MVNO ...looking here it seems the same!!!
however, AFAIK, if you want to move to GiffGaff, for example, you will need Network Unlock....
If you want to Root, I suggest doing this before flashing CWM, as the best Root method requires Stock Recovery, which you already have!!!
Here is THE-E HowTo Guide for Root
After successful rooting, then follow the CWR Flash Guide, previously linked....
The Stock Recovery I hosted was as a favour for user QAU5881, who could not download from RapidShare, not a ROM, but what you have already!!!
but won't have once you flash CWM!!!
cheers, and Good Luck...and ask if there is anything else

Thanks Irishpancake. I was getting confused as to the difference between stock recovery and CWM and what they did. Found this which cleared my confusion up a lot. Basicly CWM gives you more options and if you don't want it flash back to stock for OTA updates.
One thing though. Once I unlock my phone it stays unlocked and flashing new roms on it won't bugger that up. Think I know the answer to that already but as I said in my first post, hand holding! Who knows, one day I may be of use to some other newbie and answer his questions.

blitz_32 said:
Thanks Irishpancake. I was getting confused as to the difference between stock recovery and CWM and what they did. Found this which cleared my confusion up a lot. Basicly CWM gives you more options and if you don't want it flash back to stock for OTA updates.
One thing though. Once I unlock my phone it stays unlocked and flashing new roms on it won't bugger that up. Think I know the answer to that already but as I said in my first post, hand holding! Who knows, one day I may be of use to some other newbie and answer his questions.
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Yeah, once network unlocked, stays unlocked!!!
There are more options in our CWR, as we have External SD, and internal SD....
so this is catered for in where back-ups are stored, and where device is restored from!!
But, don't forget, if you sre going to root phone, do it before you flash CWR, i.e. with Stock Recovery [This is default Samsung Recovery]...

Cheers Irishpancake. I have asked this on another thread but haven't got a reply so hoping you can help me once more
I've rooted it now and got CWM on it but can't find a uk stock rom. Someone said to use any Euro one but not sure they will support radio etc. Which one would you suggest?
Also if I do a back-up on cwm will it be just as my phone is now, including rom and apps I have on the internal sd. Guess it doesn't back up external one which is where I've D/L my stuff to!

blitz_32 said:
Cheers Irishpancake. I have asked this on another thread but haven't got a reply so hoping you can help me once more
I've rooted it now and got CWM on it but can't find a uk stock rom. Someone said to use any Euro one but not sure they will support radio etc. Which one would you suggest?
Also if I do a back-up on cwm will it be just as my phone is now, including rom and apps I have on the internal sd. Guess it doesn't back up external one which is where I've D/L my stuff to!
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Howya blitz.....
To answer second question first [I'm Irish ]....
A Nandroid bk-up is a snapshot of your device at this precise moment... including all device partitions....
it will include everything needed to restore your device to its current state.....
including all apps on Phone memory, related data stored on Internal SD/USB Storage....
but there will not be Apps on your internal SD, unless you have implemented mount-point swap??
There is presently no backup of external SD in our CWM.... but unless you wipe this, or alter data on external SD....it should be OK.....you should also regularly backup the external SD contents to your PC/Laptop, including all hidden folders and files....these will be your moved Apps!!! For security!!!
As for your first question, any of the Euro ROMs are safe to flash, as they all have common baseband/modem/phone mobile freq bands. And all have English Language and usually no Service Provider Branding...
my current Stock ROM is a Cosmote Romania from way back.... no probs whatsoever!!!
To flash the Stock ROM's you will need ODIN.....check out THE-E sticky!!!
which means you will lose root and maybe CWM Recovery...but these can be regained....
But, maybe time to consider some of the Custom GB ROM's....and we have CM9 also in Alpha 2... all rooted and flashable with CWM...no need for ODIN!!!!
You should head to the sticky section in Development.... loads of info there....
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Cheers IrishPancake. No worries about second question first, I'm Cornish so it's how I would of done it!
I've been following the Dev ROMs including CM9 and also the camera topic in a different forum. Until that's working though I can wait. The stock does what I need but will definitely give CM9 a go when later as I fancy ICS and also donate to arco for his hard work when it's fully functional. Just needed a heads up and just D/L the CZECH rom so will flash that.
One other question, what would be a good app to view and delete bloat-ware? Going to follow the link in my first post as to what is safe to remove so all should be ok and if not I can re-flash.
Cheers.

blitz_32 said:
Cheers IrishPancake. No worries about second question first, I'm Cornish so it's how I would of done it!
I've been following the Dev ROMs including CM9 and also the camera topic in a different forum. Until that's working though I can wait. The stock does what I need but will definitely give CM9 a go when later as I fancy ICS and also donate to arco for his hard work when it's fully functional. Just needed a heads up and just D/L the CZECH rom so will flash that.
One other question, what would be a good app to view and delete bloat-ware? Going to follow the link in my first post as to what is safe to remove so all should be ok and if not I can re-flash.
Cheers.
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Man....there are so many bloatware removers on the Market/Play, but if you have a list, as in your link, and you want to customize what you remove, here is a good project.........which is designed for Sammy Bloat stuff!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1645301
You need:
CWM Recovery w/ ADB
USB Drivers
Rooted
Phone connected to PC with USB Debugging enabled.
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You could also need:
NotePad++ on your PC/Laptop.....
Perhaps you also may need adb.....below link to a pretty good tutorial for installing adb, and adding adb to path in Windows, for ease of use.....sorry if you are Mac man....I know nothing!!!
But, just a word of warning, don't remove TWLauncher unless you have another Launcher as default.....you could end up in trouble!!!
You can also batch install apks with this tool.....
I have not tried this, so you should carefully read instructions, such as they are!!
Otherwise, search Play, there are numerous bloat removers.....OK!!!

Cheers. I had had a look on Goggle Play but wasn't sure which would be the best one. The 'project' link you posted looks good but not sure if I just replace every bloatware apk with TWLauncher apk, so will have to read up on it if I go down that route.
Cheers for the help and so far, touch wood, I've not bricked my phone!

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blitz_32 said:
Cheers. I had had a look on Goggle Play but wasn't sure which would be the best one. The 'project' link you posted looks good but not sure if I just replace every bloatware apk with TWLauncher apk, so will have to read up on it if I go down that route.
Cheers for the help and so far, touch wood, I've not bricked my phone!
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Hi all,
Just a bit of info for you if it's still needed. In the UK O2 unlock your phone for free at any time on contract and after 12 months on PAYG for £15.
Also Giffgaff is run on the O2 network the same as Tesco so you should be ok without an unlock.

Verizon Shipping CLNR DInc2 with Later Software than OTA

Just got a replacement DInc2 for a charging port loose warranty replacement (again).
The phone has software verison 6.01.605.05 710RD
and baseband version 20.32W.30.0813U_1.09.01.0312.
zergRush fails on this latest software version...
FOR ANYONE THAT GETS THIS PHONE WITH THE ABOVE MENTIONED SOFTWARE BUILD:
When attempting the downgrade method in order to S-OFF, a lot of people (myself included) have run into boot loop issues. On initial boot up, everything works normal, but as soon as you power cycle the phone, your phone will go into an endless reboot cycle where the phone boots up all the way to the lock screen, but then after being on the lock screen for ~2-3 seconds, the phone will reboot and will continue to do so. The only way I was able to break the reboot cycle was to do a factory reset in recovery, but again, the phone will stay on during that initial boot up, but will resume the reboot cycle after any sort of power cycling.
In all my efforts of returning to stock after any sort of tinkering (including flashing the full 5.xx RUU and restoring the stock hboot 0.98), I was UNABLE to get my phone functioning normally. Even full stock, I had the reboot issue mentioned above. I had to get another replacement from Verizon and haven't attempted the downgrade yet.
Work arounds to date:
1. Don't reboot EVER after you initially boot up after a data wipe!
2. If you need to reboot, it seems like enabling airplane mode prior to power cycling prevents the reboot cycle. Even if WiFi is on with a power cycle, there isn't any issues, it's only when the cell radio is on during power cycle that triggers this.
3. Run an AOSP ROM like CM7/CM9/AOKP. This issue seems to be isolated to only Sense ROMS (this could be do to all the Sense ROMS available today being based on the 5.xx RUU and when flashing the downgrade RUU, something isn't getting downgraded properly..?)
If anyone else has any other work arounds, let me know and I'll add it to this list.
I'll say it again, the only way I was able to break the reboot cycle was to do a factory reset in recovery.

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Interesting. I've actually had the RUU for this build for a while, but since it only adds emergency alerts as far as I could tell, I didn't release it. Not sure it's worth doing now, since it's such a minor revision.

Archon810 said:
Interesting. I've actually had the RUU for this build for a while, but since it only adds emergency alerts as far as I could tell, I didn't release it. Not sure it's worth doing now, since it's such a minor revision.
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Unfortunately it was enough of a revision that zergRush is failing to gain temp root access!

I just finished getting S-Off and Root on my new CLNR today.

mastamoon said:
I just finished getting S-Off and Root on my new CLNR today.
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Did you start with HTC Bootloader Unlock?

mastamoon said:
I just finished getting S-Off and Root on my new CLNR today.
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Please do tell how you achieved this.

XTC Clip. Bought one almost a year ago and never got to use it. Till today!

Does anyone have an RUU of this?

Archon810 said:
Interesting. I've actually had the RUU for this build for a while, but since it only adds emergency alerts as far as I could tell, I didn't release it. Not sure it's worth doing now, since it's such a minor revision.
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If you could release it asap, that would rock. In attempting to root, I've fried my radio and need to reflash the latest rev. The current releases that are out won't flash.
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randomdeanna said:
If you could release it asap, that would rock. In attempting to root, I've fried my radio and need to reflash the latest rev. The current releases that are out won't flash.
Sent from my ADR6350 using XDA
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Taco root should still work for the unlock part. Otherwise, htcdev unlock flash something that is rooted, relock and revolutionary.io as usual.
Sent from my Incredible 2 using XDA

aeroevan said:
Taco root should still work for the unlock part. Otherwise, htcdev unlock flash something that is rooted, relock and revolutionary.io as usual.
Sent from my Incredible 2 using XDA
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Cool I'll try TacoRoot to see if I can get temp root on this build to do the downgrade. For anyone looking for the link: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/13713-tacoroot-htc-universal-root-exploit-12-30-2011/
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aeroevan said:
Taco root should still work for the unlock part. Otherwise, htcdev unlock flash something that is rooted, relock and revolutionary.io as usual.
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I'm (shockingly, ha) having an issue with tacoroot putting me in endless boot cycling when I get to the root step. See my post in this thread on rootzwiki.
I can't seem to find clear how-tos on htcdev/flashing. When I've tried to flash a stock upgrade (see this thread), I get a failure because the RUUs posted are older than this new one. I suspect this will be true of something rooted, no? If not, if I'm wrong there, can I just make an image of my current happily rooted dinc2 (I haven't sent it back yet) on 2.3.3 and flash that? (and if so, links to how-tos for that would be great. Good lord, I'm demanding!)

randomdeanna said:
I'm (shockingly, ha) having an issue with tacoroot putting me in endless boot cycling when I get to the root step. See my post in this thread on rootzwiki.
I can't seem to find clear how-tos on htcdev/flashing. When I've tried to flash a stock upgrade (see this thread), I get a failure because the RUUs posted are older than this new one. I suspect this will be true of something rooted, no? If not, if I'm wrong there, can I just make an image of my current happily rooted dinc2 (I haven't sent it back yet) on 2.3.3 and flash that? (and if so, links to how-tos for that would be great. Good lord, I'm demanding!)
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You can make a nandroid backup in recovery on your old phone and restore it on your new phone. The only catch is if you use HTC Boot loader unlock and load a custom recovery that way, the restore will not restore the kernel. You will have to find the boot.img for the ROM you are running and use fast boot to install it (flashboot flash boot boot.img)
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For some step by step advice: see my post here

Just so everyone is aware, if you do get a replacement DInc2 from Verizon, it will come with newer than OTA software, and when attempting the downgrade process using TacoRoot, you run into bootloop issues that I think are not correctable without the RUU of the shipped software.
Myself and one other person both ran into the same bootloop issue after the downgrade, which persisted even when restoring everything to stock using the 5.10.605.9 RUU. See more about this issue here I have heard of at least one person having no issues after the downgrade though, so I don't know how many had issues and how many had no issues...
I ended up getting another replacement from Verizon, and until an RUU exists, probably won't attempt to root, just FYI for anyone considering getting a replacement from Verizon.

This is horrible news. I just got an Incredible 2 yesterday (gf's had charger problem, I bought her a Rezound and took her warranty swap to replace my Droid X).
I'm sure persistence will pay off though.

Bad news indeed. I just got a replacement as well with the same softare version. Sounds like the XTC clip is the only way to root it at this stage. Ugh.

cheesiepoof said:
Bad news indeed. I just got a replacement as well with the same softare version. Sounds like the XTC clip is the only way to root it at this stage. Ugh.
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Tacoroot seems to be working for some people. Just follow the updated instructions that a few people who have done the new downgrade process have posted.
Sent from my Incredible 2 using XDA

aeroevan said:
Tacoroot seems to be working for some people. Just follow the updated instructions that a few people who have done the new downgrade process have posted.
Sent from my Incredible 2 using XDA
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Yeah I wonder what the difference is...its driving me crazy. PalmerCurling had zero issues with the downgrade. Even more alarming though, at least in my and random's case, that even going back to full stock 5.xx RUU, the reboot issue is still there, so right now for us there is no clear path back to bone full functioning stock...

Comprehensive List of Root Consequences/Side Effects

Can some experts throw out a comprehensive list of the consequences/side effects to rooting in general, but especially the S III? I've seen a post or two about precautions to take with Google Wallet and such. Include everything please (comprehensive) from not being able to download OTAs (or it not being preferable to do so due to potentially losing root), the need to wait for/find someone to take the OTA and make it rooted and available for us to install, etc.
Thanks in advance!
Edit: If this should be in General, I apologize - mod please move.

s1dest3pnate said:
Can some experts throw out a comprehensive list of the consequences/side effects to rooting in general, but especially the S III? I've seen a post or two about precautions to take with Google Wallet and such. Include everything please (comprehensive) from not being able to download OTAs (or it not being preferable to do so due to potentially losing root), the need to wait for/find someone to take the OTA and make it rooted and available for us to install, etc.
Thanks in advance!
Edit: If this should be in General, I apologize - mod please move.
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It probably ought to be in Q and A, but only after you have searched Q and A, as this question generally speaking, has been asked quite a few times.. Please, use search...save a life
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s1dest3pnate said:
Can some experts throw out a comprehensive list of the consequences/side effects to rooting in general, but especially the S III? I've seen a post or two about precautions to take with Google Wallet and such. Include everything please (comprehensive) from not being able to download OTAs (or it not being preferable to do so due to potentially losing root), the need to wait for/find someone to take the OTA and make it rooted and available for us to install, etc.
Thanks in advance!
Edit: If this should be in General, I apologize - mod please move.
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Do your research.......
the main side effect is getting a hard brick by flashing something you shouldnt have flashed (rom for another phone) other than that, you can recover from anything and flash back to out the box stock if need be.

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The biggest drawback is it gives folks the ULTIMATE ability to do anything they want to their phone. Why is this a drawback????
Sadly, way too many folks just "do" things on blind trust of random folks they don't know on the internet without knowing what they are doing and the consequences of their actions.

Compusmurf said:
The biggest drawback is it gives folks the ULTIMATE ability to do anything they want to their phone. Why is this a drawback????
Sadly, way too many folks just "do" things on blind trust of random folks they don't know on the internet without knowing what they are doing and the consequences of their actions.
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This is true... but those of us that are not programmers and not as farmiliar with modding these roms are at the mercy of the devs. I am not a noob but am trying to adjust to the s3, came from the OG EVO. Basically what I do is do some google research, search threads on here. eventually you find devs who you prefer and trust their work w/o question.

dbenney said:
This is true... but those of us that are not programmers and not as farmiliar with modding these roms are at the mercy of the devs. I am not a noob but am trying to adjust to the s3, came from the OG EVO. Basically what I do is do some google research, search threads on here. eventually you find devs who you prefer and trust their work w/o question.
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Same here, I have only dealt with the original EVO. I want to put the leak JB on my S3 but I want to be able to get the official OTA when that comes out as well. I'm good with this stuff if I have a good guide, I'm just so lost with this one.

leperme5siah said:
Same here, I have only dealt with the original EVO. I want to put the leak JB on my S3 but I want to be able to get the official OTA when that comes out as well. I'm good with this stuff if I have a good guide, I'm just so lost with this one.
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you wont get both with rooted custom rom installed...it is one or the other...
choose your path..

Naddict said:
you wont get both with rooted custom rom installed...it is one or the other...
choose your path..
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Well sir, he could could flash the stock recovery > take the OTA > he'll lose roo, then can simply re-apply the rooting procedure in 1 minute and have root back. The only thing is it'll be 100% stock rom, with root access.
We both know its just better to wait, but to each his / her own.

dbenney said:
This is true... but those of us that are not programmers and not as farmiliar with modding these roms are at the mercy of the devs. I am not a noob but am trying to adjust to the s3, came from the OG EVO. Basically what I do is do some google research, search threads on here. eventually you find devs who you prefer and trust their work w/o question.
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leperme5siah said:
Same here, I have only dealt with the original EVO. I want to put the leak JB on my S3 but I want to be able to get the official OTA when that comes out as well. I'm good with this stuff if I have a good guide, I'm just so lost with this one.
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Exactly my same situation.
teh roxxorz said:
Well sir, he could could flash the stock recovery > take the OTA > he'll lose roo, then can simply re-apply the rooting procedure in 1 minute and have root back. The only thing is it'll be 100% stock rom, with root access.
We both know its just better to wait, but to each his / her own.
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How would you flash the stock recovery, and why is this needed? Wouldn't you still get the OTA prompt after rooting and just be able to accept the install - why need stock recovery?

s1dest3pnate said:
How would you flash the stock recovery, and why is this needed? Wouldn't you still get the OTA prompt after rooting and just be able to accept the install - why need stock recovery?
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In the dev section, there is a thread in the there that has the stock recovery you can flash via odin. You need stock recovery because the OTA flashes through stock recovery; which is why on anything but stock, the OTA fails to flash.
And you wouldn't get the ota at that point cuz you'd have it. There are other ways to disable it though.

Naddict said:
you wont get both with rooted custom rom installed...it is one or the other...
choose your path..
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That's remembers me, my ex g/f bikini line.
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Will the root methods out there work if you're already on the Sprint Jelly Bean OTA (LJ7)?
Before rooting, any precautions to take other than resetting Google Wallet?

First off, resetting Google wallet isn't necessary. That's old news
And second this question should go into the noob question thread because if you don't already know the answer to this than you don't need to do it. You'll be just another rooted noob that ends up fukn brickin. Dont do it until you can answer this question yourself
Nobody is gonna hold your hand especially not when youre back here in a week askin how to repair your doorstop of a phone

billard412 said:
First off, resetting Google wallet isn't necessary. That's old news
And second this question should go into the noob question thread because if you don't already know the answer to this than you don't need to do it. You'll be just another rooted noob that ends up fukn brickin. Dont do it until you can answer this question yourself
Nobody is gonna hold your hand especially not when youre back here in a week askin how to repair your doorstop of a phone
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Lol... The issue is that all the information is fragmented all over the place. I understand the general process but am asking the noob questions so that all bases are covered. I was on the OG Evo, rooted and updating ROMs all the time. Don't assume man - just trying to get "comprehensive" details before messing up something - you shouldn't be able to blame me for that. So many different OTAs, versions of Galaxy S III (international and different carriers), Google Wallet comes into play, etc...
So back to my main question: Will the root methods out there work if you're already on the Sprint Jelly Bean OTA (LJ7)?
And is there consensus that no precautions need to be taken with Google Wallet or anything else?

s1dest3pnate said:
Lol... The issue is that all the information is fragmented all over the place. I understand the general process but am asking the noob questions so that all bases are covered. I was on the OG Evo, rooted and updating ROMs all the time. Don't assume man - just trying to get "comprehensive" details before messing up something - you shouldn't be able to blame me for that. So many different OTAs, versions of Galaxy S III (international and different carriers), Google Wallet comes into play, etc...
So back to my main question: Will the root methods out there work if you're already on the Sprint Jelly Bean OTA (LJ7)?
And is there consensus that no precautions need to be taken with Google Wallet or anything else?
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Root methods don't change. This is a Samsung not an HTC. They don't upgrade hboot or lock the bootloader with an ota none of that stupid crap.
Jb or ICS makes no difference. And Google wallet stores that personal crap that had the potential to make wallet brick up outside of the phone now so reset isn't needed. Although I think that was all hype originally anyway. As someone who has owned the phone since 6-21 I have flashed anything and everything and never reset wallet a single time

Seen a lot of comments, so I thought I would throw my 2 cents into the ring
Concerns:
1) flash counter - The SGS 3 has a counter that show how many times you have used ODIN to flash something. The program "Flash Away" resolves this, but to get it 100% back to the stock setting, you also need to flash a 100% official stock ROM. If you never plan on using the warranty, this is a non concern, but it might cause you issues if you bring it in for service.
2) loss of data - some flashes will wipe the internal SD card (yet to see anything wipe the external), so before doing anything major, it is probably a good idea to backup the internal SD to an external source
3) USB cable quality - one of the number one items I have seen that causes issues, is a bad and/or faulty USB cable. Make sure you got a quality cable if you are going to flash with ODIN
4) check the md5 checksum of the file you are going to flash. A bad download will also cause you issues, from minor to serve, so it is a good idea to do a double check before you use the file, just to make sure it is not corrupter

DCRocks said:
Seen a lot of comments, so I thought I would throw my 2 cents into the ring
Concerns:
1) flash counter - The SGS 3 has a counter that show how many times you have used ODIN to flash something. The program "Flash Away" resolves this, but to get it 100% back to the stock setting, you also need to flash a 100% official stock ROM. If you never plan on using the warranty, this is a non concern, but it might cause you issues if you bring it in for service.
2) loss of data - some flashes will wipe the internal SD card (yet to see anything wipe the external), so before doing anything major, it is probably a good idea to backup the internal SD to an external source
3) USB cable quality - one of the number one items I have seen that causes issues, is a bad and/or faulty USB cable. Make sure you got a quality cable if you are going to flash with ODIN
4) check the md5 checksum of the file you are going to flash. A bad download will also cause you issues, from minor to serve, so it is a good idea to do a double check before you use the file, just to make sure it is not corrupter
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Kinda insulting to chainfire to call it flash away. Just saying...
And the counter isn't even that big a threat to ne one anyway. Hell u can even reset it using my stock rom. Definatly second checkin the USB cable tho

[Q] Rooted, didn't do nandroid backup -- any chance of recovering data?

My fiancee's EVO 4g was in desperate need of replacing, so we went and got new phones. She had been playing this damned Smurf Village game for about a year and a half, and I thought I'd pull a white knight -- root the phone, back it up on Titanium, transfer the backup to the new phone, root that, restore. She insists she's okay starting over, but I thought it'd be a nice gesture. Rooting the new phone (LG Optimus G) was a piece of cake. The EVO 4g took me some time to get it to work ...
In my poor attempts at multitasking, I didn't do a nandroid backup and completely overlooked where it said it would restore to factory settings.
Is all lost? I did a search on it while it was plugged into the PC as an external drive and found a bunch of (edit: Smurf-related) files, so I feel like the data might still be there.
If not, it's all good. I learned from my mistake (I mean, c'mon, big_onion, every damn set of instructions says "make a nandroid backup") but if there's any way to get it back it might make her day.
Data restoration aside, after flashing Superuser, I still can't get TitaniumBackup to obtain superuser privileges. Any ideas what I might've done wrong? The method I used was to unlock the bootloader via HTC site, then flashboot recovery, then flash superuser. The app is there, but it doesn't seem to issue SU rights to TitaniumBackup.

Best way to gain root is to flash any custom rom here on xda. Unless it is a completely stock rom it is rooted and works without any issues. I rooted my second og evo a few days ago and had the same issue with the stock rom. After flashing a custom rom I had full root access.
Now as far as data goes most apps store that on the sdcard. I suggest installing the game on the new phone then power off and insert your old sdcard into the new phone. Hopefully it will use the old data and return your wife's game to her last state and make you look like a champ.
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jlmancuso said:
Best way to gain root is to flash any custom rom here on xda. Unless it is a completely stock rom it is rooted and works without any issues. I rooted my second og evo a few days ago and had the same issue with the stock rom. After flashing a custom rom I had full root access.
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Uhm...
You don't root android by flashing a rooted custom rom on a non root phone.
Rooting a phone must be done via a PC there is no other way.
Some stock roms ARE root.
The reason you had problems is because you were root and tried to install a non-root stock rom, if you would have installed a rooted stock rom you would of had no problems.
smh

Umm root is done by rom. Unlocking bootloader is the part done by pc.
You can be unlocked without root but can not root until you are unlocked. Rooting is the granting of admin rights to the user's apps.
I did not have an issue because I installed a non rooted rom. The rom was already on the phone which is the same spot the op is in. He is unlocked but not rooted. The htcdev unlock does not grant root rights to the current stock rom. Also the flashable zip did not grant the rom root rights.

jlmancuso said:
Umm root is done by rom.
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You don't go from not being rooted to being rooted by flashing a custom rom on the phone from the recovery menu, unless you accidentally flashed a non-root rom while you were already root.
Unlocking bootloader is the part done by pc.
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They're both done via PC at the same time with the same program (Unrevoked3 is only temporary nand)
Unrevoked Forever unlocks the bootloader permanently via recovery with an .img
http://wiki.rootzwiki.com/UnrEVOked

Wow man this will be my last response here about this but I want to say a couple quick things. First did you even read the link you posted? Yes with unrevoked you can gain nand unlock and root at the same time but if you also read it says this.
Does unrevoked³ give me root?
Yes. It previously did not; as of version 3.0, it does.
So root and nand unlock are not the same and is not always done at the same time. It is possible to be nand unlocked and not have root. Which is the case when you use htcdev unlock. Do your homework before you go making statements please.
I am not here trying to run anyone down and start fights but I am here to spread knowledge and help out others with problems. If you give someone bad information it will cause problems down the line later. Most people will assume you know what you are talking about when you make a post even if the information is not correct. So please take the time and make sure your information is correct before you post it.
So take a look at links I have posted and see what root is, how it is used, and see the difference.
This is a general overview of the root permission (depending on os it is called many different things)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superuser
This is what it means with the android
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/05/rooting-for-android-what-why-and-how/
Again not fighting but giving information that is benifical to everyone.
Peace,
Love, and
Happiness

Fail troll is fail.
OP has the information he needs.
He already is rooted and needs permanent unlock which is what Unrevoked Forever does, which is linked in the link I posted.
Edit: The PM j sent me.
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Hey man. I am not trolling. The information is real. I am a knowledgeable dev and don't want anyone getting the wrong information. Bad information leads to big mistakes that can be a devs worst nightmare. Just read the articles and if you still don't agree well that is fine by me. I at least tried to give you the correct information.
Have a nice day and enjoy this beautiful day.
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I guess he thinks Unrevoked Forever is bad information and harmful to Evos.

Backedup
If you backed up the game, you can always download titanium backup and restore. Make sure you didn't delete the files from sd-card (they should be there). Sorry if this was already answered or i'm wrong. :fingers-crossed:
edit: if its a stock rom and you backup every app with titanium back up you could.

jlmancuso is having a hard week. i would give him a break. as far as i can tell he's genuinely trying to be helpful and is catching crap from all sides these days. eventually he will slow down and not accidentally provoke people (or take things personally). but he seems like valuable asset to the community overall so i'm rooting for him. OP good luck with your issue.

It's already unlocked, via the instructions from the HTC dev site. I didn't use Unrevoked -- I tried, and got a message about something being too new of a version. I'll dig around more, but I before I spent too much time I wanted to make sure I could restore the data on the stupid Smurf game for her.
I did NOT do a Titanium Backup of anything on there before I started. The LG Optimus G doesn't have an SD card, so I can't just swap SD cards. I can copy files from the EVO to the PC then to the LGOG. I think I might install Smurfs on the new phone, root it, then just try and copy the Smurf files from the EVO over to the Optimus G and see if overwriting the data files would restore her game.
Will report back on whether or not it works, or if I can't get superuser working.
And chill out, friends. I appreciate all sorts of info, even if it's not what I'm looking for. Y'all rock.

I am not taking it personally and dont think unrevoked is harmful. I am not going to argue with anyone about the facts. I posted the articles al5uwtqind if anyone wants to read them and learn more than cool. The information is for the benefit of everyone. Call troll or a$$ or whatever. I am here to help like most everyone.
Knowledge is power so empower someone else today.
Peace,
Love, and
Happiness
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big_onion said:
Data restoration aside, after flashing Superuser, I still can't get TitaniumBackup to obtain superuser privileges. Any ideas what I might've done wrong? The method I used was to unlock the bootloader via HTC site, then flashboot recovery, then flash superuser. The app is there, but it doesn't seem to issue SU rights to TitaniumBackup.
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I think he meant "Htcdev site" then "fastboot flash recovery", but it seems like Big_Onion did everything right as far as rooting the phone, but there can be other reasons why Titanium is not working properly. It could be Titanium data needs to be wiped or it could be an issue with busybox. He never said he was not rooted, he only said that superuser was not giving Titanium root permissions, which has happened to me also. I wish he would have ran the root checker app too, to verify did he really have root or not. Then it would be easier to tell which path to take.
And also, why are we arguing over unrevoked and unrevoked-forever? Those don't work on the newer stock roms, because they were patched in 2011 by the first Gingerbread update on. Since big_onion used the Htcdev site, he is likely on Gingerbread. They, unrevoked3 and forever, would only work if he downgraded the radios to the ones which came with either Eclair or Froyo, the two previous operating systems. Titanium backup only needs an unlocked bootloader from the Htcdev site, and superuser permissions from the superuser app to work. Anything else is just extra, at least on Gingerbread.

Let's rattle you brainiacks' brains!

Ooh kaay, can Anyone solve this one?
A couple month ago, I had to get a refurb of my phone, and I went to root it and it's been as painful as rubber band to the butthole!
I've used both Wug's and Gnex's toolkit. Hard reset it, used, and watched ALL of QBking77's gods, used every way possible to get this dang thing rooted. I'm no noob, but, I'm also no expert. Below is the stats of my phone, PM me if there's any other info you need and I'll try and provide it for you.
Thanx guys, I appreciate all any and all help I can get
Ridge
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You should've made this thread in the Q&A section
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I have, and got zero responses.
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TheRidge69 said:
I have, and got zero responses.
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You have mismatched radio. Flash full ga02 radio.
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Thank you. That's was what I was thinking, but I wanted to be sure & hear it from someone else! I'll try that one the morning, after I find the right tar for it. Couldn't even get twrp or any custom recovery on it. Again thanks
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They did the same thing when I got a refurb. Mismatched radio. First thing I noticed.
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But radios are independent of os. Root comes from the system.
I agree you'd be better off with matching radios, but I read your post as having problems getting root access, correct?
Have you downloaded proper drivers to a computer?(using PC or Mac or Linux?)
Do you have adb set up?
If ya do, have you tried to boot into fast boot and flash a custom recovery?(I've always used most current twrp recovery without issue)
Sounds like your asking for help to gain root access, get a custom recovery installed, then want to flash a custom ROM?
I hear ya, not a noob right? Help us help you, give us more info on what you've tried and why you think it has been unsuccessful
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ElfinJNoty said:
But radios are independent of os. Root comes from the system.
I agree you'd be better off with matching radios, but I read your post as having problems getting root access, correct?
Have you downloaded proper drivers to a computer?(using PC or Mac or Linux?)
Do you have adb set up?
If ya do, have you tried to boot into fast boot and flash a custom recovery?(I've always used most current twrp recovery without issue)
Sounds like your asking for help to gain root access, get a custom recovery installed, then want to flash a custom ROM?
I hear ya, not a noob right? Help us help you, give us more info on what you've tried and why you think it has been unsuccessful
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Thanks. I take it you're being sarcastic with the noob comment, but yes I've used the proper adb & drivers I've it unlocked and can can get into fastboot, then that's where my problems start. Nothing happens. I've tried dl'ing it to the my pc and transfer it to my phone. I've also tried dl it to my phone, however, I just can't get access.
I don't know if I want to put a new ROM, I DO know, I want more control over my phone again at the very least.
I've been rooting and ROMING all my phones since I had an LG Rumor. This is why I'm so flustered. It has been about a year or so since I've had to mess with my Gnex. Because it's run like a Champ until my cat thought it was a play toy and swatted it off my kitchen table, & i needed a new one and ended up with crap refurb.
Anything else you wanna know, shoot me a message or reply to my "noobian"rant.
Thanx,
Ridge
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Have you tried using an older tar like 4.1 and rooting from there that usually works then if it works you'll be able to flash radios after getting root and upgrading to 4.2 later
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thegod2012 said:
Have you tried using an older tar like 4.1 and rooting from there that usually works then if it works you'll be able to flash radios after getting root and upgrading to 4.2 later
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Thanx TG. I have gone back and then when I had updated it, no matter what I do, I just can't seem to get back. I used to have all the files and good stuff on my last pc before it ate it's HD & I lost everything. Ended up starting from zero. Did all the proper downloads over again, blah, blah. This was before I began to decide to get root access. My pc ended up being yucky windows 8. Would that make a difference? Never dealt with the Damn os before. Could I be missing something there beside a brain? Here's a pic of my cat log if that would help. I really feel like an ass. I haven't done any of the suggestions yet to it. Because I just don't know where I should start.
Thanx guys,
Ridge
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Try this
Download a 4.1 Odin via Google search
Run Odin
Root phone via Gnex tool kit
Then flash anything your heart desires
Windows 8 doesn't make a difference as long as you have the necessary drivers and files
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Thanks TG, I will try that. It's 3:20am so I will try that again. I've used the toolkit and the Wugfresh kit as well. I think if I follow that course, I just might get this thing rooted, with a custom recovery as well.
I'll let you know what happens OK? Chat w/U in the morning.
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While we wait for a Mod or Admin to move this, I just wanted to clarify, if nobody answers your question in the Q&A section, it doesn't give you a reason to break the rules and post in the Development section, here's my advice, if no one answers in the Galaxy Nexus Q&A, go to the Android Q&A, the forums have more people, and you won't break any rules.
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I am not sure if I'm being ignorant or didnt go through all ur posts, but as u said, you have the bootloader unlocked, get ur cell in fast boot download the latest recovery.img put it in the same folder as adb then open the cmd navigate to where ur adb is located and issue the command; "fastboot flash recovery recovery.img" once the installation is completed boot into recovery to flash just the superSU or ROM of ur choice..
Make sure you execute the cmd as Administrator...
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