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Will Desire ever be a modded phone?

Hi,
I am due to trade in my faithful G1 in the next three weeks. The obvious choice financially for a replacement is the Desire.
The best thing about owning the G1 was the wave of development that has followed its release, I have really enjoyed being able to swap ROMs and have the such a wide range of choice to do so.
So, will the Desire ever have this developer base, or has it been eclipsed by the Nexus in this respect? has anyone else thought about this as part of their decision for their next handset?
I know the stock answer is going to be "get a Nexus", but that doesnt makes financial sense at the moment. Maybe I will have to wait until a proper UK release....
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I don't see how you might think the Desire won't get a large developer base. Any phone on XDA gets a large developer base IMO and there are are plenty of Android specific forums that can help you mod when the phone has been rooted.
I think you'll be fine to upgrade to the Desire

The desire will be rooted soon and supposedly has interchangeable roms with the N1 anyway.

All sounds reassuring, thanks I probably named this post poorly..I think it was the extent to which attention would be focused I was concerned about. G1 and Nexus seemed to be in the right place at the right time when devs like Cyanogen were getting hold of new handsets and modding them.

Although I hope I am wrong it is by no means certain that the Desire will be "hacked" to accept Custom ROMs. I understand that Paul at Modaco has been able to "root" the Desire but a lot more work is required before Custom ROMs can be loaded.
There is an assumption here that the "Developers" can do anything. It might just not be possible without a "leak" from someone within HTC.
It might be worth waiting a while before purchasing.

or you just buy it and wait for it to be rooted?
why should you wait until it is cuz we all know it will be rooted. its only a matter of time.
and if it cant be rooted we are screwd because all new htc (android) devices will have the same kind of security or even better !!

networkkilla said:
Hi,
I am due to trade in my faithful G1 in the next three weeks. The obvious choice financially for a replacement is the Desire.
The best thing about owning the G1 was the wave of development that has followed its release, I have really enjoyed being able to swap ROMs and have the such a wide range of choice to do so.
So, will the Desire ever have this developer base, or has it been eclipsed by the Nexus in this respect? has anyone else thought about this as part of their decision for their next handset?
I know the stock answer is going to be "get a Nexus", but that doesnt makes financial sense at the moment. Maybe I will have to wait until a proper UK release....
Sent from my T-Mobile G1 using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
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I am in the same boat as you... I have a G1 and absolutely love the modding and dev community out there, it made my phone 1000x more fun to own . I have been looking at the Desire and there are some great deals out there (price wise) so I am seriously considering getting one. The N1 is too expensive for me atm, plus the N1 hasnt sold as well as Google had hoped... For me I hope the desire will outsell the N1 and hopefully have a large dev support....

[ROM][11/27/10] CyanogenMod-6.1 for Vision (V6.1.0-RC3)

Edit: Newer version available. ~TheRomMistress
a quick to cm 6.1 rc3, hope this one could be better for desire Z
see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=853658

have installed this latest cm rom, still need to update the redglasses's keypad update, which is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9353194#post9353194

Download seems to be taking a while,... Will report back once complete and flashed.

My GPS still can't get a lock even on the third release candidate.

where is fm radio?

from install, it seemed slower than rc2 with no data wiped.

Folks, if you have an issue with this ROM, I recommend posting about it over in the original thread, over on the G2 side. This side is pretty much dead in comparison.

steviewevie said:
Folks, if you have an issue with this ROM, I recommend posting about it over in the original thread, over on the G2 side. This side is pretty much dead in comparison.
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I was looking here from Desire Z perspective. I'm not really that much interested in G2 owners comments, I'd like to know what works and what doesn't on Desire Z, before I make any mistake and flash.

schriss said:
I was looking here from Desire Z perspective. I'm not really that much interested in G2 owners comments, I'd like to know what works and what doesn't on Desire Z, before I make any mistake and flash.
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Fair enough, but I predict you'll find more DZ owners posting in the Cyanogen thread on the G2 side (due to the fact they can get a lot more responses, e.g. from Cyanogen himself) than you will here.
Remember that the phones are basically the same. Any bugs/issues etc are going to show up the same on both the G2 and the DZ.

Yes I agree, but I'm hoping a Desire Z user would post a wrap-up of what's working, is it worth flashing, here are fixes for known issues and so on here for other fellow Desire Z users ;-)
Sent from Desire Z

schriss said:
Yes I agree, but I'm hoping a Desire Z user would post a wrap-up of what's working, is it worth flashing, here are fixes for known issues and so on here for other fellow Desire Z users ;-)
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But a G2 owner's list would be just as useful and there are a lot more people who are likely to post over on the G2 side about this. Oh well.

Pickx said:
My GPS still can't get a lock even on the third release candidate.
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I got the same problem

[Q] Is the DHD Dev threads dying

I've been noticing a lot of ROM's not updating. And recently the ICS port from the RCMix Sensation has been stopped and closed. Is their still hope, or is it time to upgrade to a newer phone.

Not sure what you consider alot, but I.just glanced in the Dev section and quite a few have had updates of within the past two weeks(I counted 10 +). That seems pretty active to me
Plus just because a rom hasn't been updated recently doesn't mean its not being worked on

fielddb said:
I've been noticing a lot of ROM's not updating. And recently the ICS port from the RCMix Sensation has been stopped and closed. Is their still hope, or is it time to upgrade to a newer phone.
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Not updating doesnt mean that they (devs) are not working anymore, It means that their ROM doesnt have any bugs or problems and is stable and doesnt require any changes.
Thats what most of the ROM devs will say.

Hmmm a question thread that was not posted in the Q&A forum?
Ill move it this time

You'd consider buying a new phone just because (some) threads on a forum aren't experiencing a massive amount of traffic in a holiday period?
*facepalm*

Not considered a question because it also what you think.. is it dying or not.
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I understand what u mean and I would say yes
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It only dies if people allow it. It has become far to common that people wait for others do it instead of learning to do it themselfs. If you want something cool and new dig in and make something new. That is the point of a development forum to help others learn and share tips. Developers are not special. They just have the drive to make their device theirs.

I had another read of the op, like the ics sense is coming back, I've been working on it and other things, in a way dhd is dying and in a way it isnt if that makes sense, alot of new devices gets released n when that happens everyone usually wants something new and cool, devs want to develop on a newer phone see what it can handle performance wise etc
If I'm still here when sense 4.0 drops then yeah I'll most likely be bringing it to DHD first (as thats the phone I have)

Yea i totally agree with what you are saying zelendel

shaky156 said:
I had another read of the op, like the ics sense is coming back, I've been working on it and other things, in a way dhd is dying and in a way it isnt if that makes sense, alot of new devices gets released n when that happens everyone usually wants something new and cool, devs want to develop on a newer phone see what it can handle performance wise etc
If I'm still here when sense 4.0 drops then yeah I'll most likely be bringing it to DHD first (as thats the phone I have)
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i have a question for you shaky.
i was following your thread, and i did notice that you were postponing it. but you completely got rid of the thread. why is that?

fielddb said:
i have a question for you shaky.
i was following your thread, and i did notice that you were postponing it. but you completely got rid of the thread. why is that?
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The thread is still there, you just can't see it
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hide and go seek is not fun on the internet

Haha its not like its fully stopped, I'm working on it along with other things
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Patience is a virtue

Y2KoaS said:
Patience is a virtue
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Seems that many people consider that virtue to be terribly overrated.

dannorth said:
Seems that many people consider that virtue to be terribly overrated.
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your reply is a total win!

patience friends as you may see surprises in the dhd threads and i know there is some poor people who cant afford a new phone as a matter of fact there is a lot of devs working hardly not to mention that there is a whole new devices who attrack people more from our beloved dhd we have a great team working like the CM team some dev did abondan us maybe but there is others coming and in a large choice of phones u wont expect regular updates this is not iphone this is android everyday new phones are released not to mention how hard a dev work could be and evantually the updates includes updates off apps so it sounds unecessary but we here are brothers and we can work together and most important is to wait you will never know whats comming regards my friends

Ahh its not dieing..the desire section which i used to have is still banging away
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marsdta said:
Not sure what you consider alot, but I.just glanced in the Dev section and quite a few have had updates of within the past two weeks(I counted 10 +). That seems pretty active to me
Plus just because a rom hasn't been updated recently doesn't mean its not being worked on
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Exactly.
Greets from an hd2 dev!
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Desire development is seem to be going dead

Desire development is seem to be going dead..
Doesn't feel good but.. really the development section is slowly going dead...

Captain Obvious to the rescue?
If you decided to have a rant, at least write a few sentences so that we have something to read?
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Yeah... I can see that too. Most "real developer" have moved to other device section. What we have now that still in Desire development is Alex-V (still active) and Coolexe will show up once in a while. Droidzone stops developing ROMs due to job commitment. Well, I'm talking about the real developer for Sense not AOSP and real developer, not modders. Once both Alex-V and Coolexe stop developing for Desire, we can expect a dead end for Desire.

every phone has a shelf life . just wait for ur upgrade and hope that the dev community is as good/helpful as this one

Gotta expect it on a 2 yo device. when you see Runnymede AIO and RSK 6 it's hard to see how much further this thing can be pushed. It's already amazing what's possible compared with what HTC intended for it, but there comes a time...

Its normaly said the device is as good as its developers, but after being part of xda for such a long time i really belive the device is as good as its supporters..! and the more the supporters move towards new devices (Especially alot these days due to the end of 2 year contracts) the lesser is the need for any one to bring something new to the device because not many are interested in using it.
And as far as the developers are concerned alot of the dev's were first supporters who really learned to develop as a process to get something new to their own and everyones devices. Many of them dont take official classes to become dev's it just takes a willing supporter of the device n community to actually give in imp time and learn and try developing.
Buh anyways The HTC DESIRE was a great 2 year run, for its money, hardware and this community..! Thankx to All The Dev's for giving us way more than HTC could ever deliver. The Desire was truely a developer phone.. just hope we see the same support in a future device !

I will probably keep my desire for another 2 years. Here in the UK you get massive reductions in line rental if you do not upgrade with a new handset. Besides that I see nothing on the market that's worth upgrading for.
It's all just gimmicks with software bugs, at least my desire is finally at a stage where everything works as planned. I'm still a stock Rom user and by browsing this forum I can see lots of upgrade potential if I venture into the dark side (go rooted).
I don't know how it works elsewhere but here in the UK the average consumer is pretty clued up on phones and most will search the net for bugs before choosing a phone.
I know quite a few iPhone users who have not upgraded to 4s and have instead opted to stay with their current iPhones and benefit from cheaper line rental.
There is also a recession so that means people are looking to save money. Old desires from the UK get sent to new owners in 3rd world countries. Basically the desire is here for another 2 years easily so it makes sense for developers to stick with it.

ckpv5 said:
Yeah... I can see that too. Most "real developer" have moved to other device section. What we have now that still in Desire development is Alex-V (still active) and Coolexe will show up once in a while. Droidzone stops developing ROMs due to job commitment. Well, I'm talking about the real developer for Sense not AOSP and real developer, not modders. Once both Alex-V and Coolexe stop developing for Desire, we can expect a dead end for Desire.
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Alex v already move to sensation xl..
Maybe you can continue desire development..
Because you help so many people.
And me also learn a lot from you..
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Xda should have a Hall of Fame. First to get crowned the HTC Desire. Any one here from Desires introduction and still has it will know of all the Dev. work done over two tears. I will always hang onto mine too much of a classic to let go.
I also have an Evo 3d (not mine but owner hates it) SGS2 and Nexus One. My Desire is still my daily driver. Some of the best Devs have worked on the Desire and I still check here regularly. So to the Rom Devs, Themers, Modders and Contributors no matter how small the contribution it has been a terrific two years.
If I can single out Madmaxx for the Touch Recovery as the greatest piece of Tech to grace the Desire and Alpharev for S-Off. Just my opinion.

Of course everybody is moving. The HTC Desire is now > two years old. Thats the smartphone lifecycle I think. Dont unterstand me wrong, I absolutely love my desire because its such a reliable phone.

It's long dead. There is very little to no development on it right now. The things you see most on the development section nowadays are merely applied knowledge learned from 'true' development that happened a year or so ago. I see this section going to the legacy devices list pretty soon.

I can't see any problems here. There are loads of stable roms - cyanogen mod, oxygen, even moded or rooted senses, there is no need to spend time on an old device, when it already has reached it's maximum

steveathome said:
Xda should have a Hall of Fame. First to get crowned the HTC Desire.
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The HD2 should be crowned first place, that's the phone that just won't die.

There are plenty of nice Roms in the Desire Section but as with my old phones, HTC Touch HD, HTC HD2 and now HTC Desire they all become old and newer phones come out. That is life. I am getting a new phone myself and looking into what is hot and got the most potential but I will still keep my Desire and hopefully look for new Roms like Sense 3.6 and Sense 4 and 100% working ICS Roms. The new phone will probably have ICS installed or upgraded but I still love Flashing new Roms just for sake of it, isnt that what we all love doing.
One thing for certain, the Desire will go down as one of the most remembered phones.

Desire and g1 best phones ever
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CM 7.2 is coming.
ICS drivers from Qualcomm is also released, let's see if something catches fire soon enough
Also, the desire hardware is kinda limited after 2 years of development.

I've only had my Desire for a year now, and moved to a custom ROM about half a year ago (InsertCoin 2.3.3) once my hunger for apps started giving me storage issues.
Am now on Sandvold ICS and LOVE the UI and HWA speed. Unfortunately, the daily random crashes I'm experiencing mean that a bit more development is needed.
As long as ICS gets stable I'm happy.

The phone is two HTC generations old now, and over 2 years since it was released. I think ICS will be the last Android version to see the Desire.
Still, there is plenty of development going on for ICS in my opinion. A new version of CM9 was just released, Sandvold has his stock version, and a development thread for Sense 4.0 has just opened. There is probably a good 6 months worth of work left.

This was my first android and parting ways with it is going to be hard but yeah we have to move on some time. No new developments rom wise besides the ics and potential ics sense stuff...
I'd say the desire still got some steam left in him
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Kalavere said:
The HD2 should be crowned first place, that's the phone that just won't die.
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Hahaha that's true!!
Never dies
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Unofficial [ICS 4.0.3] D-Sense 4.0 general thread

Hey, since official thread was closed based on Shaky's request, I have opened new, unofficial one, so that there is no need to spam development threads where it does not belong to. There was starting some talk about Kernel 3.0, maybe some experienced ones can enlight this topic.
No offensive or dirty words, please.

To much smoke with no fire...
Not really sure that there will be something from it.
But let's wait and see.

Dafuq? Two threads plus development not enough?

all Shaky's threads are locked so not enough...

personaly i would say get the message... 3 threads locked. message recieved
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come on, it was locked because of shaky was annoyed, but it does not mean community cannot talk about it...

zakka1da said:
come on, it was locked because of shaky was annoyed...
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now the community will talk about the same thing here, so now ur just continuing on the reason why they were locked.
Sent from my HTC Desire

LOL I clearly remember when Shaky appeared on the Desire forums before the device was bought, there was this guy from DHD forum who commented " Oh shaky you're now here! After shaking a lot and not baking anything in the DHD" .. hahaha.. I feel really sorry for all of you who kept saying"oh shaky plz do sense 4 for us and you're god and what not!" All rubbish..
What I find hard to understand that why would a dev never talk about what's working and what's not behind the scenes ??? Not even in dev forum? People stopped writing in dev as per his request.. what happened at the end ???
All bull****! I'm not saying that he can't do something, only he knows better, but the way people have been treated in his forums are disgusting.. it never happened in threads in the likes of leedroid or coolexe etc.. everyone was given a chance to express and be heard..
I feel these new so called dev are "noobs" than normal users the people are maintaining their threds
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jmcclue said:
now the community will talk about the same thing here, so now ur just continuing on the reason why they were locked.
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yes, I want them to talk about it, and omg, they were locked because Shaky wanted it, not moderators (except of some warnings in development thread). If it was because he did not want to read about it or any other reason, it does not matter, I just don't want this topic to die (when still some hope is alive, maybe).
Back to topic, in Droid Incredible forum I have read that PureMotive had some talk with Shaky and sbryan like 4 days ago and that guy sbryan is most probably looking into that audio issue... we will see

Conclusion : leave shaky alone, he's working hard for us and there is no need to make him under pression.
About this topic, mmmh ... too words, not enough acts ?

To me this thread looks like disrespect to shaky coz he closed two of them already clearly for a reason.
And now again will be the same everybody taking and nobody can actually provide even a simple logcat, you know how many tutorials with step by step explanations have been posted on xda lately for everything: porting ics, compiling kernel, compiling roms from source, kernel optimizations, modding,etc do why non of the talkatives take some time off their life and start working on porting sense 4 and/or kernel 3.0? Seriously this thread would be so much productive rather than waiting and pushing one person to the edge?m?
Does it make sense?
If I had time to waste for ungrateful users I'd work on this myself- however real life and work for now are more important to me.but I bet if any of you read the tutorials and got to know insides of android you could port it yourself. Even DK and Sandvold and Sebastian started like this by experimenting.
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You guys want the perfect and official answer? PM to him
And my estimation of your next answer is
"How did I forget that!!! :banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead: "
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Good to see other people working on Sense 4.0 ....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28222255&postcount=1447

When shaky was soliciting donations to buy his Desire you just had to check his history here at XDA to realize he is a prima donna that will probably let you down (if you chipped in for his phone). As the saying goes...he's all hat but no cattle. So I stayed well away.
Now, when laidbacknikez was doing the same (getting donations to buy a new Desire for developing) I did donate to him. He not only sent out a personal thank you note, he has delivered a fantastic ROM in spades...and I would bet he will give us Jellybean a well.
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MrUrgit said:
Good to see other people working on Sense 4.0 ....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28222255&postcount=1447
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thanks for finding it, another slice of hope (and one of the reasons why I opened this thread, hope people won't now spam Aurora thread with silly questions for ETA [like one already did ])

zakka1da said:
thanks for finding it, another slice of hope (and one of the reasons why I opened this thread, hope people won't now spam Aurora thread with silly questions for ETA [like one already did ])
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everyone should just LEAVE IT unless they are going to help out with something productive.
if you compared the Nexus One thread and the Desire thread for the same shaky dev thread and the nexus one had like 3 pages, while the desire had about 100 in a short space of time.
I know people are excited and stuff but try and keep it to yourselves unless you have a bugreport or something useful to contribute.
in the meantime enjoy Gingerbread or ICS AOSP on your desire.

Lothaen said:
everyone should just LEAVE IT unless they are going to help out with something productive.
if you compared the Nexus One thread and the Desire thread for the same shaky dev thread and the nexus one had like 3 pages, while the desire had about 100 in a short space of time.
I know people are excited and stuff but try and keep it to yourselves unless you have a bugreport or something useful to contribute.
in the meantime enjoy Gingerbread or ICS AOSP on your desire.
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i agree, i onced used aurora rom but never really checked the thread after that. so yeah it was a good find and im glad that sense 4 is being worked on BUT now there is gona be 200+ atleast more people who are gona read this thread and click the link and its gona eventually lead to useless posts and comments just like shakys threads. i could be and hope im wrong but thats what i think.
Sent from my HTC Desire

One more thing I don't understand, if this is called 'FORUM' it's made to be written in it, so why some of us think that it shouldn't?
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nlooooo said:
One more thing I don't understand, if this is called 'FORUM' it's made to be written in it, so why some of us think that it shouldn't?
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i know what ur saying but my point was really why continue on from 3 threads that have already been locked? i just think its pointless. but if ye wana talk about it then go ahead
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jmcclue said:
i know what ur saying but my point was really why continue on from 3 threads that have already been locked? i just think its pointless. but if ye wana talk about it then go ahead
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Let it go man. If we can't make people stop creating threads to discuss what is the best rom of them all, we can't stop this thread too. :silly: