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I'm still new to this device. I'm having issues figuring out which kernels go to which version of GB and ICS.
Which Kernels will work on EL29 only?
Which ones will work on ICS and GB (EL29)
Why are kernels and Recovery mixed together? Why not make it simple to understand and locate?
EL29 Kernel ver 1.3.3 GB only - Example. Now I know I can't use this on ICS, only version EL29 of GB. Oh and it's a Kernel.
Not a recoveryIcsv13.3..3.3kerneldotninerwtfz0rz.tar.zip. That makes it confusing.
Anyone able to offer any clarity or an decoder ring so that I may understand this better?
If want to try a new kernel for EL29 GB, I can't because I have not farking clue if I'm getting one with a recovery, if it's GB or ICS only etc.
If I want to try an ICS kernel, but use it on GB, I'm lost because I thought they weren't compatible but people are apparently doing it.
Also, recoveries. "Don't use hitman" seems to be the theme. Along with Touch CWM being another issue.
Rogue Recovery is hitman? or hitman is hitman?
While this phone is superior to the Evo3D, at least the development wasn't a greek VCR manual from 1928.
Zzzz
sounds like you need to do a lot more reading before you mess with this phone.
This Forum was always for Developers, not for Newbies, so its organized with that in mind..
there are other forums you may want to visit as well, where they cater more to novices; or, just do the smart thing, and don't mess with your electronic devices unless you are 99.99% sure you know what you are doing
Read and read and then read some more.....Samsung puts recovery in kernel nothing we can do about that ....most kernels will have a recovery in them ..these leaks are different right now...they are using ics 3.0 kernels on ics but not on GB ....the people you have seen are taking the radio fb21 etc .... Read and be safe don't be a brick
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wase4711 said:
sounds like you need to do a lot more reading before you mess with this phone.
This Forum was always for Developers, not for Newbies, so its organized with that in mind..
there are other forums you may want to visit as well, where they cater more to novices; or, just do the smart thing, and don't mess with your electronic devices unless you are 99.99% sure you know what you are doing
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+1 This is a dev website. Go over to Android central or rootzwiki if you have questions like this...and ask for Bubby (sorry i couldn't resist...lol)
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You all basically told me I'm dumb.
lol. k.
not at all, man...we've all been where you are at, and have realized that until we had the knowledge to be able to tweak our phones properly, we had to read, learn, and, read some more.
Isn't it better to know this stuff BEFORE you do something to break your phone?
I mean, you wouldn't want a surgeon to operate on you until he was sure he knew what he was doing, would you?
Its no different with this stuff; you'll be much happier if you build your knowledge about this thing before you go messing with it.
Its no reflection of your intelligence, its just a statement of fact about your current abilities as they pertain to this phone..
You may be a Mensa for all we know!!
If you are going to respond to a post already, answer the fing questions. You are already putting the effort in of typing. This is the best site for this **** don't tell him to go somewhere where there more ppl like him who do not know what hey are talking about. Always with this elitist sh*t.
well, since you seem to be a know it all, why don't YOU answer them?
at what point during my post did I indicate I know it all?
All the stock and stock repacked GB kernels can be mix/matched between the different stock GB releases. They will NOT boot for an ICS ROM.
All the stock and stock repacked ICS kernels can be mix/matched between the different stock ICS releases. They will NOT boot for a GB ROM.
By "work" I mean they boot and data works. Beyond that, you'd have to experiment to see if what you care about works to your expectations. In general things will work, but I obviously don't test everything, and the combination Samsung/Sprint tests is matched kernels and ROMs.
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If you are going to respond to a post already, answer the fing questions. You are already putting the effort in of typing. This is the best site for this **** don't tell him to go somewhere where there more ppl like him who do not know what hey are talking about. Always with this elitist sh*t.
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at what point during my post did I indicate I know it all?
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Your smart ass reply above is where..
and, this site is NOT for noobies to break in their teeth on development
I don't care if you agree or not; if you feel you want to answer his questions, then do itl otherwise STFU..
I'm buying this phone today. Coming from a NS4G. Now, I'm no noob when it comes to rooting/flashing/modding...however...the development for this device and the way you have to go about doing things with it are waaaaaay different. And I will agree with OP: it is confusing reading through some of this stuff, even for people with experience. But I also agree with some of the others: don't root or go beyond that until you have a good understanding of what you are doing.
As XDA has been very good to me I can say that the Nexus crowd is way more helpful to noobs, apparently.
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HareyCarey said:
I'm buying this phone today. Coming from a NS4G. Now, I'm no noob when it comes to rooting/flashing/modding...however...the development for this device and the way you have to go about doing things with it are waaaaaay different. And I will agree with OP: it is confusing reading through some of this stuff, even for people with experience. But I also agree with some of the others: don't root or go beyond that until you have a good understanding of what you are doing.
As XDA has been very good to me I can say that the Nexus crowd is way more helpful to noobs, apparently.
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its really only different if you are flashing LEAKED, non official roms..
The problem is that too many noobs with no idea what they are doing, don't want to spend anytime learning what they are doing, and hear about these ics roms, and just gotta have them..Then, they start flashing crap that they have no idea about, brick their phones, they post stuff all over the place, begging for someone to rescue them RIGHT NOW...
Its like getting behind the wheel of a car, with out taking drivers ed, or practicing, only bad things are going to happen if you do that..
There are tons of helpful folks here, with hundreds of "thanks", and thousands of posts, so obviously, there is a ton of cooperation and help going on here..
It just gets old, really fast, when 20 people ask the same question about a leaked, not even beta rom; and, to make it worse, the answer is usually a few posts ahead of theirs, or in the OP..
Too many people feel this sense of entitlement here lately, and, for those of us who are always helping, always offering our assistance, it gets pretty old sometimes..
Obviously, you know what YOU are doing, and, you at least took the time to get a basic understanding of your phone..plus, you've obviously read through these threads, and realize that it is a bit different to flash stuff on this phone.
Thats more than quite a few of the noobs here have taken the time to do..
Some people rely on others before they rely on their selves. That isn't always so bad, but I know it gets old. I probably won't mess with my Galaxy until I find exactly the ROM I want with everything working and I understand Odin a little better...the NS4G was sooooo simple...it's like they were begging you to root it. It was like get fastboot and adb then type a few things and boom, it's done. This is a bit more complicated and there isn't just a recovery you flash and leave on your phone to flash everything else(as far as I know)
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HareyCarey said:
Some people rely on others before they rely on their selves. That isn't always so bad, but I know it gets old. I probably won't mess with my Galaxy until I find exactly the ROM I want with everything working and I understand Odin a little better...the NS4G was sooooo simple...it's like they were begging you to root it. It was like get fastboot and adb then type a few things and boom, it's done. This is a bit more complicated and there isn't just a recovery you flash and leave on your phone to flash everything else(as far as I know)
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well, actually there is; there are actually 2 different ones, depending if you are using a "released, el29" type of rom, or one of the "leaked" ICS type roms..
The conventional roms all have recoveries baked into them, so its simple to go into recovery, and flash other stuff
the ICS leaks are different than that, and can be a pain to flash back and forth
My friends with Nexus phones all agree with you on how much easier it is to flash stuff on their phones; I guess its all in what you get used to!
You'll love this phone, that I guarantee you!
wase4711 said:
Your smart ass reply above is where..
and, this site is NOT for noobies to break in their teeth on development
I don't care if you agree or not; if you feel you want to answer his questions, then do itl otherwise STFU..
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I believe you started with the smart ass remarks to the op.
wase4711 said:
STFU..
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take your own advice if you have nothing to contribute.
PS. This site is also not for TOOLS...explain yourself!
good luck getting help from anyone here,
adding you to my douchebag list...
VoX_XDA said:
I'm still new to this device. I'm having issues figuring out which kernels go to which version of GB and ICS.
Which Kernels will work on EL29 only?
Which ones will work on ICS and GB (EL29)
Why are kernels and Recovery mixed together? Why not make it simple to understand and locate?
EL29 Kernel ver 1.3.3 GB only - Example. Now I know I can't use this on ICS, only version EL29 of GB. Oh and it's a Kernel.
Not a recoveryIcsv13.3..3.3kerneldotninerwtfz0rz.tar.zip. That makes it confusing.
Anyone able to offer any clarity or an decoder ring so that I may understand this better?
If want to try a new kernel for EL29 GB, I can't because I have not farking clue if I'm getting one with a recovery, if it's GB or ICS only etc.
If I want to try an ICS kernel, but use it on GB, I'm lost because I thought they weren't compatible but people are apparently doing it.
Also, recoveries. "Don't use hitman" seems to be the theme. Along with Touch CWM being another issue.
Rogue Recovery is hitman? or hitman is hitman?
While this phone is superior to the Evo3D, at least the development wasn't a greek VCR manual from 1928.
Zzzz
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sfhub said:
All the stock and stock repacked GB kernels can be mix/matched between the different stock GB releases. They will NOT boot for an ICS ROM.
All the stock and stock repacked ICS kernels can be mix/matched between the different stock ICS releases. They will NOT boot for a GB ROM.
By "work" I mean they boot and data works. Beyond that, you'd have to experiment to see if what you care about works to your expectations. In general things will work, but I obviously don't test everything, and the combination Samsung/Sprint tests is matched kernels and ROMs.
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Rogue Recovery is the recovery made and used by Team Rogue. Hitman Kernel is a kernel that Team Rogue put out with CWM Touch. That kernel is perfectly fine to use with any GB rom. The big issue is using Rom Manager and flashing a recovery from there, thats a big nono unless you like bricks.
Most kernel threads (i believe all of them actually) state wether they are Gingerbread or Ice Cream Sandwich, either in the title or within the first 3 posts.
Like everyone says, read. True true read and you'll learn but how much he learn if all he reads is "READ NOOB"? I dont know everything but if you have questions feel free to pm me and I'll try to help you as best I can.
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steindog99 said:
+1 This is a dev website. Go over to Android central or rootzwiki if you have questions like this...and ask for Bubby (sorry i couldn't resist...lol)
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This is a community website, you don't have to be a dev to be on here or to mod your phone. How many members actually contribute by developing? 8%? That being said, you really do have to put in the reading/learning time. When you know what you're doing then you can ask specific questions for help that can be answered. Just my 2cents
Im just gonna say even for experienced modders/devs who have been doing this for a while (4+ years for me) this phone is quite confusing at first, i started hacking palm, treo family then pre, then moved to android with an intercrap i mean intercept, then the og evo, and now the et4g and the first day i was in this forum i was scratching my head like a lost kid looking at a chinese subway map. the setup of this phone in particular and the "codenames" are wayyyyyy different than the evo so i was lost for a few hours til i read thru a few ops and familiarized myself with all the new terms, but then again i have years of experince with phone modding and 2 decades experience with linux and windows coding and it was still like my first day of latin class with this phone having had a samsung device previously(intercept) did help with odin and such as it was similar to louziffers hacked swupdater for the intercept but if i was coming strictly from the evo i think id still be lost trying to root this phone
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I am very new to the concept of rooting and flashing ROMS. Haven't flashed any kernels yet (confused about that). I flashed a couple of Calkulin's ROMs on my Epic 4G Touch and the notifications are being troublesome. I know that E4GT v1.0 is not stable. Is there ANY other ROM that is perfectly stable and offers wifi tethering (ICS ROM preferred).
Thanks a bunch!
This question was so important you had to ask it twice? Anyway, there is a thread like this everyday. Same answer for all.... It's user preference. Just because I like something doesn't mean you will
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tkemack said:
This question was so important you had to ask it twice? Anyway, there is a thread like this everyday. Same answer for all.... It's user preference. Just because I like something doesn't mean you will
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It'd get deleted from General section (sorry I am new), which is why I reposted it here.
I really don't care about the cosmetics. The only thing I want is all the features working properly, and have wifi tethering and good battery life. Any ROMs that do these?
Thanks!
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It'd get deleted from General section (sorry I am new), which is why I reposted it here.
I really don't care about the cosmetics. The only thing I want is all the features working properly, and have wifi tethering and good battery life. Any ROMs that do these?
Thanks!
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Well most likely your gonna wanna stay away from ICS builds as it's not official and other experience different battery life, but if you want it I suggest mijjz ICS Blend, he keeps it supported greatly. As for a GB rom I suggest either calkulins e4gt rom or blazer rom 4.0 (themed like ics). Both are extremely stable, and calkulins rom includes a battery saver script for great batter life.
dshah37 said:
It'd get deleted from General section (sorry I am new), which is why I reposted it here.
I really don't care about the cosmetics. The only thing I want is all the features working properly, and have wifi tethering and good battery life. Any ROMs that do these?
Thanks!
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If you want ALL features working, you will need to go with a stock rom, and it wont be ICS cause there isnt an official release (notifications issue is an ICS issue, not the custom rom's).
If you want wifi tethering, stock wont work for you. So I would recommend you look at the gingerbread roms. Caulkin's el29 is a good one. Not sure it has tethering though.
There are apps you can buy that will get you tethering, so maybe stock gingerbread + a paid app will meet your needs.
Hope that helps.
dshah37 said:
I am very new to the concept of rooting and flashing ROMS. Haven't flashed any kernels yet (confused about that). I flashed a couple of Calkulin's ROMs on my Epic 4G Touch and the notifications are being troublesome. I know that E4GT v1.0 is not stable. Is there ANY other ROM that is perfectly stable and offers wifi tethering (ICS ROM preferred).
Thanks a bunch!
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I read:
"very new to the concept of rooting and flashing ROMS"
and
"Haven't flashed any kernels yet (confused about that)"
And think "You should Not Be Flashing ANYthing ICS based, at All!"
You could be headed straight to hardbrickland, one way ticket.
Like mentioned in the two previous posts, I would stay away from anything ICS based right now, not only because they have a few issues, at best, but mostly because of the bricks people are getting when playing around with them while not readoing direction Very Carefully and not being familiar with flashing techniques on this phone. If you are going to play with them, be Very Familiar with ODIN and sfhubs OCs, Know Your Kernals, Read Every Damn Thing about the restore process, watch all of QBKing's videos on flashing/restoring re: the ICS stuff, read the sticky thread in general "How To Not Brick our E4GT"...
Like many people have mentioned throughout the threads recent, ICS is nice, but it being unstable many people, even experienced flashoholics, are returning to GB (read as: EL29 stock restore by sfhub) for stability until an official release.
kingdazy said:
I read:
"very new to the concept of rooting and flashing ROMS"
and
"Haven't flashed any kernels yet (confused about that)"
And think "You should Not Be Flashing ANYthing ICS based, at All!"
You could be headed straight to hardbrickland, one way ticket.
Like mentioned in the two previous posts, I would stay away from anything ICS based right now, not only because they have a few issues, at best, but mostly because of the bricks people are getting when playing around with them while not readoing direction Very Carefully and not being familiar with flashing techniques on this phone. If you are going to play with them, be Very Familiar with ODIN and sfhubs OCs, Know Your Kernals, Read Every Damn Thing about the restore process, watch all of QBKing's videos on flashing/restoring re: the ICS stuff, read the sticky thread in general "How To Not Brick our E4GT"...
Like many people have mentioned throughout the threads recent, ICS is nice, but it being unstable many people, even experienced flashoholics, are returning to GB (read as: EL29 stock restore by sfhub) for stability until an official release.
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Will get back to GB. THANKS A LOT for your help bro.
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Will get back to GB. THANKS A LOT for your help bro.
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Good choice Odin back to stock and in the future try and not ask the same questions countless others have asked at least be original and always do your homework before flashing.... This is serious business up in herrrre....LOL
Rookies Beware - good luck guy
Yup, if you need help read my guide for flashing to and from ics to gb
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525495
Loving Calkulin's E4GT 2 v1.2 ICS FC18 Tweaked - give it a shot. has built in hotspot hack and looks great.
Without a doubt aokp .....freaking pink unicorns beeches
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Epix4G said:
Without a doubt aokp .....freaking pink unicorns beeches
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Ha ha gotta love it, AOKP is tits
I am using venum ice ICS and I really like it.
whats up
Sorry to jump in. Using wicked sensation rom it is awesome. It real stable everything works
Great. If you havent tried it you really should.
Really can't believe you asked this all of them are the best
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Can't go wrong with wicked sensations or Blu Kuban both my favorite ROM's for the epic touch.
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It's like asking "what is the best beer?"
Look at the thread rating, read the comments for bugs and flash several till you find one that meets your needs.
But man... you better do a lot of reading first and you would see how these threads are frowned upon.
Quick background about my flashing habits before we begin. My first Android phone was the G2, and I really liked it but wanted something with more power. About a year later I "upgraded" to the Sensation and immediately I was taken aback by how awful Sense is/was. It became my mission to get back to the pure Android feel and so I found the (original) HNS ROMs. Those were great, and that phone lives on today as my wifes primary device. Now I have a Gnex, and my "problem" is that it comes out of the box the way it took me a year+ to get my Sensation so there isnt much I want to change. Roughly 2 weeks ago I decided to flash CM9 to see what all the hype is about, and I can honestly say I dont see what the big deal is. Sure, I can change the governor and modify the LED for specific notifications but as far as I can tell thats about all you can do. Clearly there are other 'under the hood' modifications but none of them are immediately evident to me at least, and so I am about to flash JB.
Am I missing something huge that CM9 does that JB doesnt not? Is my analysis totally off? Let me know if JB is a mistake and if I should have stuck with CM9 in the comments below!
webmaster said:
Quick background about my flashing habits before we begin. My first Android phone was the G2, and I really liked it but wanted something with more power. About a year later I "upgraded" to the Sensation and immediately I was taken aback by how awful Sense is/was. It became my mission to get back to the pure Android feel and so I found the (original) HNS ROMs. Those were great, and that phone lives on today as my wifes primary device. Now I have a Gnex, and my "problem" is that it comes out of the box the way it took me a year+ to get my Sensation so there isnt much I want to change. Roughly 2 weeks ago I decided to flash CM9 to see what all the hype is about, and I can honestly say I dont see what the big deal is. Sure, I can change the governor and modify the LED for specific notifications but as far as I can tell thats about all you can do. Clearly there are other 'under the hood' modifications but none of them are immediately evident to me at least, and so I am about to flash JB.
Am I missing something huge that CM9 does that JB doesnt not? Is my analysis totally off? Let me know if JB is a mistake and if I should have stuck with CM9 in the comments below!
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It doesn't work for you, then ok. Nobody is going to convince you to use a specific ROM. Its YOUR preference and YOUR phone, so do as you please or better yet, make your own ROM the way you want. If you read you would know people like CM9 for its stability.
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Only change governor and led??? Are we talking about the same CM9?
CM9 have way more customization options than that.
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It doesn't work for you, then ok. Nobody is going to convince you to use a specific ROM. Its YOUR preference and YOUR phone, so do as you please or better yet, make your own ROM the way you want. If you read you would know people like CM9 for its stability.
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Dont get me wrong, I am not knocking CM9 in any way. However, I can tell you I had zero issue with the stock ICS build my phone came either. I am hoping JB proves to be just as stable.
lol a troll thread it is. nobody are allowed to blame CM. best android community ever! and now AOKP is also emerging. how dare you insult the only dev community that give free support for your device. you dont like it go away and keep it yourself. no need to tell it here. use stock rom and go play outside.
EDIT : ok... but still, whats your point of this thread? you want to try JB then go ahead. and since your stock ICS is working well just stick with it and wait for JB OTA. CM are already working on JB, its gonna be CM10. you dont follow news regularly i suppose... CM9 was started from scratch with no features for your info. and its still in RC! what do you expect....
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Only change governor and led??? Are we talking about the same CM9?
CM9 have way more customization options than that.
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Agreed, but how many of them are actually useful and not just "cool"? After reviewing every single feature of the ROM I couldnt find anything else I thought was worth while. If you have specific examples please let me know, as I spent hours making the decision to ditch CM9 and I hope I made the right choice.
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Agreed, but how many of them are actually useful and not just "cool"? After reviewing every single feature of the ROM I couldnt find anything else I thought was worth while. If you have specific examples please let me know, as I spent hours making the decision to ditch CM9 and I hope I made the right choice.
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Stock ICS > CM9?
You're delusional.
Jelly Bean would've been a better argument because of project butter.
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SocialReject said:
Stock ICS > CM9?
You're delusional.
Jelly Bean would've been a better argument because of project butter.
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Correct, I am not running JB and I am making the comparison between it and CM9. I personally found nothing unstable in stock ICS however.
lol mate you can always try any roms easily. this is nexus device. you dont have to think long to ditch a rom... and we have nandroid too..
LuffyPSP said:
lol a troll thread it is. nobody are allowed to blame CM. best android community ever! and now AOKP is also emerging. how dare you insult the only dev community that give free support for your device. you dont like it go away and keep it yourself. no need to tell it here. use stock rom and go play outside.
EDIT : ok... but still, whats your point of this thread? you want to try JB then go ahead. and since your stock ICS is working well just stick with it and wait for JB OTA. CM are already working on JB, its gonna be CM10. you dont follow news regularly i suppose... CM9 was started from scratch with no features for your info. and its still in RC! what do you expect....
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Who is "insulting" CM team?? I have used their products for years and I think they do a great job. The purpose of this thread (if you bothered to read it) was to determine if I will be missing any functionality of CM9 by moving to JB. Assuming you are not currently using JB, then I respectfully ask you to move along and comment elsewhere. This thread is for people who have used both ROMs, and can comment about the differences. Please troll elsewhere LuffyPSP.
Not yet having a Nexus, I can see how CM9 wouldn't be such a big deal since you're coming from AOSP already. But for those of us running manufacturer-skinned-and-bloated devices, CM9 is really amazing. Lets us basically run Nexus software on better hardware.
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Not yet having a Nexus, I can see how CM9 wouldn't be such a big deal since you're coming from AOSP already. But for those of us running manufacturer-skinned-and-bloated devices, CM9 is really amazing. Lets us basically run Nexus software on better hardware.
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You nailed it right there, and that was the premise of my first post. Coming from a Sense "enhanced" device the AOSP experience was priceless and amazing. However once you are already running a pure Google experience (stock ICS ona Gnex) there is much less to improve upon. Hence my movement from CM9 to JB, and hence the thread you are now reading. Some people here need to relax and have a civil discussion (not you, some of the others)!
Was this thread really needed? Cm9 is a great rom remember what your parents should of told you if you have nothing good to say then do not say anything at all. So shhhh
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Was this thread really needed? Cm9 is a great rom remember what your parents should of told you if you have nothing good to say then do not say anything at all. So shhhh
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Wow, I guess we are back in kindergarten or something? I never once said a single negative thing about CM9. This thread is to discuss what features CM9 lacks that JB has, or the other way around. Do people even bother to read the thread before they chime in?
everybody is entitled to their opinion. And a ROM preference comes down to just that.
(without comparing features and what-not)
CM is living history in the world of Android development, specifically custom ROMs. I ran CM back on my original Droid when Koush first ported it (having to come up with ClockworkMod Recovery just to be able to do so, so that's one big thing that came about as an indirect result of CM). But Cyanogen was the first one to build a ROM from source, something that was a LOT harder back when he started. Many of Android's features were found in his ROMs first. While you may prefer this ROM or that, you should know that the CM team's impact on the android development community is only surpassed by Google itself (and it's by a narrow margin IMO). The CyanogenMod team is absolutely legendary and deserves more respect than that
as far as comparing CM9 to JB, it's apples to oranges. You won't see a CM JB ROM until source is released, that's how they work. And even still, it'll be a while before they get their ROM compiled, stable, and feature-packed
Came across this thread by accident... I think the users here was misled by the thread title... Anyway, i get what youre saying though about running aosp stock and cm9... You feel like youre not missing anything when running stock... Im not sure about stock ics but i think CM9 have alot of under the hood tweaks compare to stock... They may not be noticable to see but they are there hidden in codes ... May i say enhance in coding... Maybe wait for CM10, the wait will be worth it
Edit: apologize in advance if i misunderstood you
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Different folks different strokes. Glad you tried both and chose the one that works for you. Nothing wrong with stock.
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Different folks different strokes. Glad you tried both and chose the one that works for you. Nothing wrong with stock.
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The post that nailed it all.
I enjoy stock. Nothing wrong there. I enjoy CM9. Nothing wrong there. I don't enjoy AOKP. Nothing wrong there.
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You won't see a CM JB ROM until source is released, that's how they work. And even still, it'll be a while before they get their ROM compiled, stable, and feature-packed
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I remember when you would see CM before you would see the official ROM from Google... that was back during the G1 days... ah good times... Back then, he would release a basic rooted ROM then work out the extra features and bugs as he went along... but of course back then there was only one Android device, (and later only two or three) so it was easier.
The proliferation of different Android devices has really slowed down the CM development cycle. We are just now seeing a RC for CM9 and JB is already out in the wild.
CM has really influenced Android development as a whole... many features that come stock in Android today were first done by CM and then adopted into AOSP. I remember when Google Devs were asked at a press conference about specific features for a specific device... and they said "We won't do them, ask Cyanogen." Those guys have a lot of respect for Cyanogen, even way back when he worked on his own, and now he heads a huge team of Devs that rivals Google's in house team. (if not even larger)
There are a lot of little features that CM does that AOSP still doesn't and even others do not. Adjusting auto brightness settings are one I really like (especially on AMOLED screens) and also the color balance controls that help correct colors on AMOLED. There are other little tweaks and settings that you can do... and lots of code tweaks. Google must try to balance many aspects (performance/battery/multiple devices/differing hardware) with their code, but CM can focus on certain performance goals (in regards to all the mentioned aspects) and each version can be tweaked for its target device more than AOSP.
Basically CM is making AOSP the best it can be on the supported devices.
Marine6680 said:
I remember when you would see CM before you would see the official ROM from Google... that was back during the G1 days... ah good times... Back then, he would release a basic rooted ROM then work out the extra features and bugs as he went along... but of course back then there was only one Android device, (and later only two or three) so it was easier.
The proliferation of different Android devices has really slowed down the CM development cycle. We are just now seeing a RC for CM9 and JB is already out in the wild.
CM has really influenced Android development as a whole... many features that come stock in Android today were first done by CM and then adopted into AOSP. I remember when Google Devs were asked at a press conference about specific features for a specific device... and they said "We won't do them, ask Cyanogen." Those guys have a lot of respect for Cyanogen, even way back when he worked on his own, and now he heads a huge team of Devs that rivals Google's in house team. (if not even larger)
There are a lot of little features that CM does that AOSP still doesn't and even others do not. Adjusting auto brightness settings are one I really like (especially on AMOLED screens) and also the color balance controls that help correct colors on AMOLED. There are other little tweaks and settings that you can do... and lots of code tweaks. Google must try to balance many aspects (performance/battery/multiple devices/differing hardware) with their code, but CM can focus on certain performance goals (in regards to all the mentioned aspects) and each version can be tweaked for its target device more than AOSP.
Basically CM is making AOSP the best it can be on the supported devices.
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exactly. Hell, I think CM is the sole reason I even joined this forum when theming my D1 after Koush ported CM on another forum (I think alldroid or something like that initially). I remember the first experiments with JIT, and wow it was a ***** to get onto the D1 lol. I can't wait to see them play with JB when source drops. Cyanogen is your favorite developer's favorite developer
So Im still waiting on the shipment of a new A100 Ima give my 8 y.o. lil mama for christmas. I need enough time so I could customize it to my liking for her to use. She's pretty techy for her age so I problably will not be limiting so many things on her A100. As of now I own a Samsung Galaxy II (Hercules) rooted with a custom ROM with my own personal theme for it. I also own a 10.1" Toshiba Thrive tablet (great device) also rooted with a custom ROM and with my own personal theme. I pretty much know whats up and I understand that I better read, read, and READ before I ask that universal anoying question "What's the best ROM for my device"....BUT if there is things I need to know about this device that wont be really out there for me to read in plain view then I would appreciate any input from you people. Thx ahead and I look forward to checking out all the goodies
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mrrobc97 said:
So Im still waiting on the shipment of a new A100 Ima give my 8 y.o. lil mama for christmas. I need enough time so I could customize it to my liking for her to use. She's pretty techy for her age so I problably will not be limiting so many things on her A100. As of now I own a Samsung Galaxy II (Hercules) rooted with a custom ROM with my own personal theme for it. I also own a 10.1" Toshiba Thrive tablet (great device) also rooted with a custom ROM and with my own personal theme. I pretty much know whats up and I understand that I better read, read, and READ before I ask that universal anoying question "What's the best ROM for my device"....BUT if there is things I need to know about this device that wont be really out there for me to read in plain view then I would appreciate any input from you people. Thx ahead and I look forward to checking out all the goodies
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Here's as great thread with a ton of info http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1711125
Its pretty much going to give you all the info you need.
If you want something rock solid stable and everything works check out Relix flex reaper ICS ROM (probably ideal for a youngster). Set and forget it. I also recommend linuxsociety's twrp 2.2.2.1 recovery (relix already has his kernel). He implemented some tweaks to help prevent bricking.
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THX Ro. I will start there.
Yw. There are a few updates since that thread was written, most can be found in the dev section. Feel free to ask if you have any more questions.
Romman0 said:
Here's as great thread with a ton of info http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1711125
Its pretty much going to give you all the info you need.
If you want something rock solid stable and everything works check out Relix flex reaper ICS ROM (probably ideal for a youngster). Set and forget it. I also recommend linuxsociety's twrp 2.2.2.1 recovery (relix already has his kernel). He implemented some tweaks to help prevent bricking.
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I wouldn't call flex rock solid by far.
It as well as any cm9 based ROM have all kinds of app compatability issues. Which i don't find on CM10. Seeing as how it is for a child, they will want games, which is soley what i use my tab for. Streaming video as well.
Save yourself the headache and just flash CM10.
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justjackyl said:
I wouldn't call flex rock solid by far.
It as well as any cm9 based ROM have all kinds of app compatability issues. Which i don't find on CM10. Seeing as how it is for a child, they will want games, which is soley what i use my tab for. Streaming video as well.
Save yourself the headache and just flash CM10.
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As of right now I still haven't checked out what ROMs are avialable for the A100. Im a fan of original-source-based ROMs so any CM based ROMs I wont be checking out unless there are issues with the before mentioned ROMs. Thx for the recomendation though! I got lots to read I know.
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mrrobc97 said:
As of right now I still haven't checked out what ROMs are avialable for the A100. Im a fan of original-source-based ROMs so any CM based ROMs I wont be checking out unless there are issues with the before mentioned ROMs. Thx for the recomendation though! I got lots to read I know.
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If by original source you mean factory, then its AOSP. CM is as based on AOSP as stock roms. Mods that devs do to CM pulls it further from its AOSP base, and is usually where the bugs come up.
Entirely up to you of course, but I wouldn't discount CM10 so easily, its been rock solid for me since source dropped and I started building my ROMs, your A100 will never feel faster. I'd be hard pressed to say any stock based ROM is more stable then cm10, and they are for sure not as fast or smooth. Just my opinion, but keep an open mind.
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pio_masaki said:
If by original source you mean factory, then its AOSP. CM is as based on AOSP as stock roms. Mods that devs do to CM pulls it further from its AOSP base, and is usually where the bugs come up.
Entirely up to you of course, but I wouldn't discount CM10 so easily, its been rock solid for me since source dropped and I started building my ROMs, your A100 will never feel faster. I'd be hard pressed to say any stock based ROM is more stable then cm10, and they are for sure not as fast or smooth. Just my opinion, but keep an open mind.
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By original source based I meant the latest stock released by Acer for the A100. Sorry I might it said it wrong and I could see why "original" should of meant AOSP. Trust me Im gonna check a few out cuz I wanna settle with the one with least bugs no matter how tweaked it is for the fact that Im not going to be the one using it all the time.
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I agree cm10 is a very nice ROM. It is what I am using now. I recommended relix due to its out of box reliability. I have some app issues on cm that are not apparent on ics, so it is all user/app dependent. Cm10 does have its bugs, but it is the latest, greatest and quickest, which is what most of us power users want.
I definitely recommend checking them both out.
I'm saying CM10 over any ICS because i am a heavy gamer on my tablet. I figured a child is going to be more interested in games than anything else.
If thats the case, nearly half my games crash on any ICS /CM9 ROM I have tried, even Acer stock.
Using CM10, I would say maybe 3 out of like 40-50 games, don't play.
ICS/CM9...half of these games crash.
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So I've been reading alot. I'm really disappointed on what I've read about the A100 in terms of hardware (battery, screen responsiveness, that scary emmc bug). I'm starting to regret I ordered in the first place but it was a good deal. A while back I had read good reviews on the A500 and I thought the A100 would be no different. Oh well I really don't want to turn back now. I'll just hope for the best and hopefully I won't run into any issues that will disappoint my lil one with her Xmas gift.
As for what ROM to install, it boiled down to the two mentioned in this thread. I said before that I prefer ROMs based on the official release for that specific device (Flex Reaper I believe) just cuz I always felt it would be the most stable since it was made for that device itself. Now I keep reading that alot of you prefer CM10 but I'm not sure if it is because IT IS more stable (as in everything in the A100 that suppose to work, WORKS) or its just cuz its Jelly Bean (the newest n greatest thing) and its more customizable than ICS. I prefer for everything that suppose to work...to work. I don't like flashing a new ROMs just cuz its the newest thing out there but lets say "bluetooth" its not working as good as the ROM I had before (YES I'm still on GB on my SGSII cuz the ROM its rock solid and EVERYTHING WORKS!). Now knowing that I'm gonna give this to my 8 year old daughter, I needed to be as stable as possible. If I could get some honest opinion between these two ROMs based on what I said I would be really thankful from you great people. THX ahead!!
If you are worried about the emmc bug. Your best defense is linuxsociety's kernel in the dev section, and his twrp 2.2.2.1 recovery. He has implemented changes that could prevent the bricking. If you bought the tablet new and you get a brick, they will warranty it, just make sure you keep your serial number safe. With these bricks they can't tell or don't care about the flashing ROMs.
Seems everyones given their opinions bub.
Make a decision already. Lol
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justjackyl said:
Seems everyones given their opinions bub.
Make a decision already. Lol
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:laugh: I know, I know...Its just that I'm gonna flash it just once and then give it to my daughter...I just wanna make sure I made the right choice
...btw I just got it today and I did noticed that weird viewing angle...well its updated to ICS so gotta make that choice...
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:laugh: I know, I know...Its just that I'm gonna flash it just once and then give it to my daughter...I just wanna make sure I made the right choice
...btw I just got it today and I did noticed that weird viewing angle...well its updated to ICS so gotta make that choice...
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It took me 3 days to make that choice out of box. lol
Never looked back or regretted it, and hopefully the emmc protection measures work!
So I think Im gonna go with Flex Reaper (please don't shoot me Jackyl ). I gotta ICS theme for my Thrive that Im gonna try to port it to this but in turquoise since its my lil mamas favorite color...hopefully everything will be ok. Thank all yall for your support...Ima shut up and start flashing :laugh:.
Well...its not like you can't change it if it fails to meet your expectations!
Good luck!
Read througly before unlocking bootloader, rooting and flashing.
Piomasakis guide is the best thing here for out a100 FAQ.
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justjackyl said:
Well...its not like you can't change it if it fails to meet your expectations!
Good luck!
Read througly before unlocking bootloader, rooting and flashing.
Piomasakis guide is the best thing here for out a100 FAQ.
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THX for all your help Jackyl.
Man everything went like butter. Following PioMasaki's gide makes it almost impossible to mess up. Remind me to buy ZeroNull a beer and a lap dance if I ever get to meet him...
Now its time to work on a theme for it...
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Man everything went like butter. Following PioMasaki's gide makes it almost impossible to mess up. Remind me to buy ZeroNull a beer and a lap dance if I ever get to meet him...
Now its time to work on a theme for it...
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Yeah!!!!
Ya pios is how i set mine up..
Like butter...
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T-Mobile Galaxy S3 (T-999). I'm currently running Frosty Jellybean v11.6, (R.I.P.) so I'm looking for a suitable replacement that is in active development.
I would say I have average to advanced skills (I usually Oden to stock before installing a new ROM)
Wifi Calling is a must, so CM and all non TouchWiz ROMs are out.
I tend to prefer "close to stock" ROMs but I won't rule out something more customized.
I generally don't overclock so those features are not important to me.
I typically install Google Wallet (replace the NFC drivers, installing the MoDoCo hacked wallet binary and then change the build.prop).
I need fairly good battery life (stock experience or reasonably close to it).
What do you suggest?
Sounds like WICKED v7 is what you want if you want near stock feel, and better battery. It performs well.
If you do not mind a tweaked UI, DarthStalker X.
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T-Mobile Galaxy S3 (T-999). I'm currently running Frosty Jellybean v11.6, (R.I.P.) so I'm looking for a suitable replacement that is in active development.
I would say I have average to advanced skills (I usually Oden to stock before installing a new ROM)
Wifi Calling is a must, so CM and all non TouchWiz ROMs are out.
I tend to prefer "close to stock" ROMs but I won't rule out something more customized.
I generally don't overclock so those features are not important to me.
I typically install Google Wallet (replace the NFC drivers, installing the MoDoCo hacked wallet binary and then change the build.prop).
I need fairly good battery life (stock experience or reasonably close to it).
What do you suggest?
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The developers do this really cool thing now, which consists of putting a list of all features that are within the rom in the first post of the thread. Most of the time they even put screenshots so you can see what it looks like! It's a very good thing for deciding on a rom.
Want to know something else really awesome?! Our friend mt3g put together a resource bible that is stickied in the general section that lists all of the roms available, with short descriptions of what they are!
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The developers do this really cool thing now, which consists of putting a list of all features that are within the rom in the first post of the thread. Most of the time they even put screenshots so you can see what it looks like! It's a very good thing for deciding on a rom.
Want to know something else really awesome?! Our friend mt3g put together a resource bible that is stickied in the general section that lists all of the roms available, with short descriptions of what they are!
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True, but that only tells you so much about a ROM. I generally read the first page or two and the last page or two of each ROM I am considering. What you don't get is an informed opinion from someone who is really using the ROM.
Frosty JB was my favorite and I'm still using 11.3.2. Shame development had to stop on it, but there's no reason you still can't use it. 11.3.2 has the stock kernel, 11.6 has the Xone kernel and is overclockable. Personally, I always loved how close to stock 11.3.2 is, so I continue to use that version.
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Like TheLastSidekick said, the WICKED ROM series seems like the option you are looking for providing what you want. I have been using it since the ICS days and I haven't had a single complaint with it.
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True, but that only tells you so much about a ROM. I generally read the first page or two and the last page or two of each ROM I am considering. What you don't get is an informed opinion from someone who is really using the ROM.
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Sooooo reading the last couple pages of the rom thread doesn't give you an idea of people's opinion?
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Try out the very new STABLE SlimBean 4.2.1 if you want something different!
Here's the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2085828
Make sure you perform a clean install if you're coming from a different rom.
Cheers
Slim Roms are not TouchWiz. So will not have WiFi calling..
If I were you, I would go to the dev section and start mango around a few of them see which you like best. I would start with Wicked and Drastalker to begin with. If you're not satisfy, go to the next until you find your answer.
Don't believe what everyone says, follow your heart (hopefully you're not bias )
FreydNot said:
T-Mobile Galaxy S3 (T-999). I'm currently running Frosty Jellybean v11.6, (R.I.P.) so I'm looking for a suitable replacement that is in active development.
I would say I have average to advanced skills (I usually Oden to stock before installing a new ROM)
Wifi Calling is a must, so CM and all non TouchWiz ROMs are out.
I tend to prefer "close to stock" ROMs but I won't rule out something more customized.
I generally don't overclock so those features are not important to me.
I typically install Google Wallet (replace the NFC drivers, installing the MoDoCo hacked wallet binary and then change the build.prop).
I need fairly good battery life (stock experience or reasonably close to it).
What do you suggest?
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Yup. What they said. ^^^
That is the beauty of Nandroid. Try one, like it. Great. If not then Nandroid back to what you had/have. Only issue is that you can't Nandroid across build changes, meaning ICS to JB and then back to JB or 4.1.1/2 to 4.2.2 then back to 4.1.1/2. That would cause some partition issues. But since you know how to Odin, that is 80% of the cure for future problems.