Data Usage showing more than is detailed - Samsung Galaxy Nexus

Hi,
So, my tariff just started and I'm checking out my data usage app and I see 54MB used.
Scroll down to see what used it and see this breakdown:
Browser (top) :2.68
AndroidOS: 0.98
Google Services 0.7
Where is the rest of it?

For me as well. The estimate says i have used 1,72GB on WiFi, but when i add up all it is only 488,0676 MB on WiFi. This must be a bug? Or is there some traffic not showing, but counted as used?

Now that you mention it, my WiFi counter is off by about 10mb too...

runely said:
For me as well. The estimate says i have used 1,72GB on WiFi, but when i add up all it is only 488,0676 MB on WiFi. This must be a bug? Or is there some traffic not showing, but counted as used?
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Some traffic isn't showing. For example, the other night I used about an hour of HQ YouTube, and the aggregate count went up as one would expect, but YouTube itself didn't show up in the breakdown until I rebooted the phone. After reboot, YT claimed the full 700MB it had used before and after reset.

have you guys noticed the warning when setting max limit? "data usage tracked might differ from the one tracked by your mobile operator?

I'm sorry, but what does this have to do with the data usage warning?
The device is reporting 2 completely different data usage statistics that dont add up, it has nothing to do with what the operator thinks i've used.
Just rebooted, no difference, still missing the 50mb in the breakdown section.

It has everything to do with the data use warning as the warning is telling you the stats are not accurate. Its just not the answer as to why.
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Are you implying the data counter on the phone is reporting network usage counter by the operator? If that is the case there should be no need for this warning.
I have to ask again, what does a counter that resides on a physical device, counting data transmitted or received by said device have anything to do with a warning that the said counter result is going to differ from a completely different operator counter residing on a completely different device at the other end of the connection?
There warning merely sates that 2 completely different counters may have different values.
I'm asking why the first (phone) counter is reporting a total of 54mb and breaking down only ~5mb worth of usage in the detailed section of the same report?

I'm saying it is not, which is why there is a warning, not reading anything after that this is a loop.
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ATnTdude said:
Some traffic isn't showing. For example, the other night I used about an hour of HQ YouTube, and the aggregate count went up as one would expect, but YouTube itself didn't show up in the breakdown until I rebooted the phone. After reboot, YT claimed the full 700MB it had used before and after reset.
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I have restarted my phone, but still it says i have used 1,76GB now, but added up it's only 512,228MB. What has used the last 1,24GB? It does not show up, so there must be something wrong.

AntonyStark said:
I'm saying it is not, which is why there is a warning, not reading anything after that this is a loop.
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That is not what the warning states:
Measured by your phone. Your operator's data usage accounting may differ
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You are saying:
AntonyStark said:
warning is telling you the stats are not accurate
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Which is wrong. The "stats" are and should be accurate as measured by your phone. The breakdown of the "stats" is missing a big chunk of detail.

Quick question
OP can you move the slider to be for one day only and add the numbers together ? Then try a week and so on... do the numbers add up?

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3G Watchdog

You all have no problems with this app?
For me it shows a lot less have been downloaded than it actually was.
Example:
app shows 400MB, but on my providers page it shows 600MB has been downloaded this month!
I need a nice widget that shows correct 3G download numbers!
A number of factors can effect the readings and monitoring of your device.
When did you install can effect the reading as you might have been downloading prior to installation.
Incorrect date setting with regards to when your monthly data download starts.
Not running. If you tend to kill applications you might have killed watchdog by accident so was not running at the time you were downloading.
I think some kill applications allow for you to add other applications to an exemption list, applications you don't want to kill. You might need to check these settings.
Hope this helps you solve your data miss match.
yani2000 said:
You all have no problems with this app?
For me it shows a lot less have been downloaded than it actually was.
Example:
app shows 400MB, but on my providers page it shows 600MB has been downloaded this month!
I need a nice widget that shows correct 3G download numbers!
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the "month" of your provider, is not usually the "month" that you have in mind.
they go by your billing cycle
so reset your data count to match the next billing cycle
I'm using Automatic Task Killer and I've also double checked that 3G Watchdog isn't starred.
The moment I installed 3G Watchdog I've also set "Last started on" to 1st July 2010.
Now, I have corrected my quota under: Menu->Set quota Counters... to reflect my providers data and will see how it will go through.
Thx for all your replies!
yani2000 said:
Now, I have corrected my quota under: Menu->Set quota Counters... to reflect my providers data and will see how it will go through.
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Thankyou for sharing this information. I didn't know that myself.
I'm back to inform you all that 3G Watchdog is still off target!
First it showed 20MB less now it shows 40MB less.
First I thought that it doesn't count 2G, but I double checked and saw that in fact it did took 2G data into account.
Now I'm leaning towards that my network provider is cheating or something.
Does your provider count your network traffic exactly like 3g watchdog or e.g. 100kb-parts...that would have an impact!
Does any one know how to find out if your provider counts the data in blocks?
Send them an e-mail and ask them.
Is there an alternative to 3g watchdog it is definitely not calculating my usage correctly and this could potantially be very costly for me, unfortunately an unlimited data plan in this recession hit country is like everything else way too expensive so i just pay 69 cents a day for 50MB and if i go over than (which i have done before) they charge you a fortune which is why i use 3g watchdog which incidentally used to run fine on my old HD2 but since ive got the GS2 it's been constanly wrong if i send a text to check my balance which ive just done i can see ive used 41.69MB so far today yet 3g watchdog tells me ive only used 20.69 that is over half so imagine i forgot to send a text to get my balance and just keep surfing the net,suddendly i discover all my credit is eaten up, Meteor don't care they aint in the business of warning people who go over their 50MB daily limit which is why it's imperative i have the correct usuage.
Sorry for the long post but you can see my prediament.
Try Dodol phone usage. In settings, make sure the refresh time is 1 minute (which should be the default value).
Hi!
Yes, I see 3G Watchdog had some problems:
Overview:
* KNOWN PROBLEMS:
- [June 2011] Inaccuracy reported on Samsung with Gingerbread 2.3.3. Might be solved in 3GW 0.28.2 with the new option to use the old counting interface.
What's new:
Fixed accuracy problems on some Samsung phones with Gingerbread.
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I hope the updated version helped!

[Q] phone downloading 80+ megs every night

About a week ago my phone started downloading 'something', about 80 megs of something, every night. It must happen in the middle of the night, I've never been awake to witness it happen. When I look at my phone in the morning I have no system messages, nothing indicated in download manager, basically no hint that anything had happened. I would not have noticed had I not been checked my data usage with my provider.
3G Watchdog attributes it to "Downloads / Media Storage / DRM Protected Content Storage / Download Manager". I have no idea what is afoot here. I don't remember much changing in the last week except for the Market update that was pushed out. No ROM changes or anything radical like that.
Look for advice how to isolate this and make it stop.
HTC Desire Z running Gingervillain 1.5
Thanks in advance.
There's nothing like a podcatcher that runs at night? Or maybe updates? Hmm...
Not that I am aware of. And I hoped that 3G Watchdog would tell if that was the case (I only installed it last week, to try and sort out this problem.)
I have my market updates set to manual. I'm not subscribed to any media services as far as I know. And this is the same amount of data every night. Is there any possibility I'm received an OTA Android update or something that my phone doesn't know what to do with?
I tried *#*#4636#*#* but could not figure out how to get any bandwidth usage stats out of it, so for now this is all the detail I have.
twelvebit said:
About a week ago my phone started downloading 'something', about 80 megs of something, every night. It must happen in the middle of the night, I've never been awake to witness it happen. When I look at my phone in the morning I have no system messages, nothing indicated in download manager, basically no hint that anything had happened. I would not have noticed had I not been checked my data usage with my provider.
3G Watchdog attributes it to "Downloads / Media Storage / DRM Protected Content Storage / Download Manager". I have no idea what is afoot here. I don't remember much changing in the last week except for the Market update that was pushed out. No ROM changes or anything radical like that.
Look for advice how to isolate this and make it stop.
HTC Desire Z running Gingervillain 1.5
Thanks in advance.
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If you don't have any podcast apps installed and set up to run, or anything obvious like that) you could always mount your media card on your computer and sort by date to see what's new.
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OriginalGabriel said:
If you don't have any podcast apps installed and set up to run, or anything obvious like that) you could always mount your media card on your computer and sort by date to see what's new.
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Thanks, good idea. I just did a complete search via USB connection (I assume this only checks the SDCARD and not the phone's internal memory?) and I can't find anything new from the last few days. There were no new media files except for a few photos I had taken, and no large system files or anything I couldn't explain.
It definitely doesn't seem like I'm lost 80 megs of storage every day, I probably would have noticed that (maybe.)
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Thanks, good idea. I just did a complete search via USB connection (I assume this only checks the SDCARD and not the phone's internal memory?) and I can't find anything new from the last few days. There were no new media files except for a few photos I had taken, and no large system files or anything I couldn't explain.
It definitely doesn't seem like I'm lost 80 megs of storage every day, I probably would have noticed that (maybe.)
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Only thing I can think then is to check your sync settings and make sure all the apps you've installed since this has happened are from trusted sources (a few botnets have shown up in Android recently); that and go through your list of installed apps to see if there's anything there that you didn't install (note: there is a rogue app that is listed as 'System' but doesn't have the default Android system icon out there).
Does the app that caught this distinguish (damn, how do you spell that word?) between something actually being downloaded and just general network traffic? Your device may just be hammering the towers for a better signal or something like that.
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Actually, there's a means to do this in Spare Parts
Dial *#*#4636#*#* (or launch Spare Parts if you have it installed)
Click Usage Statistics
Click Battery history
Click the Other usage dropdown
Click network usage
Since this is happening at night, you'll need to reboot before bed and then select "since boot" to see what happened overnight.
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OriginalGabriel said:
Only thing I can think then is to check your sync settings and make sure all the apps you've installed since this has happened are from trusted sources (a few botnets have shown up in Android recently); that and go through your list of installed apps to see if there's anything there that you didn't install (note: there is a rogue app that is listed as 'System' but doesn't have the default Android system icon out there).
Does the app that caught this distinguish (damn, how do you spell that word?) between something actually being downloaded and just general network traffic? Your device may just be hammering the towers for a better signal or something like that.
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I just eyeballed all of my applications and I don't see anything I don't recognize. Nothing called System. A few system-ish things where I don't know what they do, but they all have Android icons.
I did have all untrusted applications selected because I installed the Amazon app store a while ago.
The Watchdog app seems to indicate the downloaded data is happening all at once, it's not cumulative data from the day, I can update it real time and see what's happening. Moreover, nothing has changed with my location or phone usage, and I normally would have 1-2 megs of data usage a day tops.
Tonight I will shut of 3G data when I go to bed and I'll see if it generates any kind of warning overnight. Good thing I have a big data plan...
twelvebit, I ran into the same problem you had as my phone was also downloading 80-90 megs data every night for about three days before I noticed it. I also narrowed it down to Download Manager. Another problem I had with it is that it uses a constant data connection at every phone bootup. I had to manually force stop Download Manager at every bootup so that it'll free up the data connection again. I pretty much went through my phone and SD card and there was no new files of any type. I don't use any podcast apps. I also didn't install any new apps before this started. After a couple of days of trouble shooting, I gave up and just did a complete wipe. The phantom data stopped after I reinstalled a new rom and hasn't pop back up since. I was running CM 6.1. Sorry I couldn't be of much help.
I just turn my data off at night because for some reason my phone would do the same. I even got rid of my weather widgets because I couldn't figure the problem out. For weird reason android does that mystery downloading.
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So I left data off overnight, and as soon as I turned it back on this AM it immediately did performed the phantom 77 meg download. There was no indication on the phone anywhere that it was downloading anything, it's only because I looked a my usage stats that I saw it happened.
Guess my next step is to wipe...?
313dash said:
I just turn my data off at night because for some reason my phone would do the same. I even got rid of my weather widgets because I couldn't figure the problem out. For weird reason android does that mystery downloading.
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Did you go into Spare Parts to see what app was pulling the most data?
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Did you go into Spare Parts to see what app was pulling the most data?
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I flashed to the nightly cyanogenmod this AM, and in doing so I guess I lost my stats. I've never really used spare parts before. It doesn't look like "the" download has been attempted since I reflashed, but that's typical since it happens once per night.
Right now my biggest network using item is called "0", the others are dialer and android system. What is 0? When I try and select it, spare parts crashes.
Is there a way to get hard numbers out of spare parts, or just the graphs? (it's showing blue and pink bars for each.)
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I flashed to the nightly cyanogenmod this AM, and in doing so I guess I lost my stats. I've never really used spare parts before. It doesn't look like "the" download has been attempted since I reflashed, but that's typical since it happens once per night.
Right now my biggest network using item is called "0", the others are dialer and android system. What is 0? When I try and select it, spare parts crashes.
Is there a way to get hard numbers out of spare parts, or just the graphs? (it's showing blue and pink bars for each.)
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Not sure what '0' is.
Spare Parts just gives you the bar graph but I did another search and found 'Stats' and 'Onavo' in the Market, both should help you find the problemed app. Again, Spare Parts should show it if you reboot before bed and then check it in the morning and narrowing it down by "since boot".
EDIT: I take that back, hit the bar graph in Spare Parts and it gives you the actual data.
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Guys, I'm having the exact same problem and I am puzzled why it's happening. I came across something from the droid forum:
In brief, to quote the poster:
I found a thread on the Cyanogenmod forums that supports the idea that while my oldish CM kernel was effectively blocking an OTA from installing, it wasn't preventing it from repeatedly downloading and attempting install. There is an app to fake the fingerprint so an OTA is not even downloaded since it appears to have already been applied. Just installed it so no confirmation of the fix yet, but I should know in a day or so. I'd pretty much concluded that the issue was an OTA since it was always coming via 3G even when I was at home with Wifi on. If it had been a misbehaving app, it would have originated on the phone and would have used Wifi. An OTA originates from the carrier so always comes via 3G. IMHO.
Any comment?
It's a little too early to declare victory, but last night was the first night on the new ROM and the phone did not do any inexplicable downloading.
If I learn anything else I will post it here for those others who are suffering the same issue.
Get traffic counter. It'll tell you what's using those megabytes. I used almost 1GB on my phone and it was the friend stream app on HTC Sense & Sensation.
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[Q] Data Uage meter inconsistencies

I've got a fairly limited data plan, so I try to keep an eye on data usage.
The built-in 'Data Usage' meter is very useful, but it also show some inconsistencies. For example (see the attached image) yesterday it claimed that I used about 10Mb of data, but also no apps used data during this period.
The total data appears roughly consistent with what my operator says (Sunrise, Switzerland), but I'd like to know what application was responsible, so that I could disable it.
I'd love to run Wireshark, or something similar to see what's going on here, but I guess that's impossible on a non-rooted device.
Is this a known problem? Is there anything I can do to limit this behaviour?
Device details: Stock Galaxy Nexus, running 4.0.1.
I tried switching 'Mobile Data' off altogether, and that appears to stop the data flow.
As soon as I turn it back on, however, I'm up to about 1Mb/hour 'background' seepage, that doesn't show up as any specific app.
What is the normal background data rate for things like Google services?
I tried to 'reverse tether' the device so that I'd be able to sniff the data coming through my Linux computer, but apparently the device needs to be rooted for that to work. (Something to play with over the weekend...)
Bump
Does anyone have any ideas?
Try Network Counter from mapeapps in the Market. It provides a per app breakdown...
danger-rat said:
Try Network Counter from mapeapps in the Market. It provides a per app breakdown...
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Thanks, I'll try that!
i have a 500mb data plan and last month the network said i hit the limit whilst the phone said I'd only used 430mb. using 3g warchdog to monitor this month......

ICS data usage reporting accurate?

I apologize if this has been brought up before, but the data reporting in ICS is almost double what the myverizon app is showing.
Just wondering if the usage shown by Verizon is going to catch up. If not I got a lot more streaming I can do
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do you have a task killer installed, if so then you may be killing the myverizon tracker their for its not collecting all data
You need to set the data usage to match your billing cycle dates than it should match. I have found that it needs set manually.
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Don't know about VZ, but comparing Tmo's website and ICS's data meter, they're almost identical (ICS was a few MB ahead)
The 'Total Data Usage' meter appears to be relatively consistent with my operators readings (Sunrise/Switzerland).
On the other hand, the 'per app' reading appears to be completely off the wall. (See this thread.)
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I apologize if this has been brought up before, but the data reporting in ICS is almost double what the myverizon app is showing.
Just wondering if the usage shown by Verizon is going to catch up. If not I got a lot more streaming I can do
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Measured by your phone. Your carrier's data usage accounting may differ.
My carrier (Unitel, Laos) is reporting me using just over double the data ICS is reporting.
I'm on O2 in the UK and the ICS data is about 85 mb behind the networks calculation ?
Two days ago I was pushing 2GB and now suddenly I have only used 608 MB? How can that be explained?
Has anyone seen their usage suddenly go down for no reason?
I'm in the middle of the billing cycle. I've done nothing to the phone.
Now I've lost all faith in the data usage meter.
GR
GPSRider said:
Two days ago I was pushing 2GB and now suddenly I have only used 608 MB? How can that be explained?
Has anyone seen their usage suddenly go down for no reason?
I'm in the middle of the billing cycle. I've done nothing to the phone.
Now I've lost all faith in the data usage meter.
GR
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You remember to move the slider to correct date? It doesnt do this by default so it looks like your data usage dropped everytime you go to the data usage section.
Yes, it doesn't matter where the sliders are set, I get the same result.
It appears to have forgotten about one week's worth of data, my first week. I got the phone on the sixth and now it is showing zero data used until the 12th.
My usage cycle is set for 27th-26th, so it doesn't make any sense to me that it would suddenly forget about six days of data.
It's forgotten about the data used on the wifi side before the 12th as well.
Any ideas?
GR
For me the "data usage" on the phone was reporting slightly higher than VZW, but imo that's better than slightly lower!
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You need to set the data usage to match your billing cycle dates than it should match. I have found that it needs set manually.
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There is no way to set it manually! If I am wrong please correct me.
GPSRider said:
Two days ago I was pushing 2GB and now suddenly I have only used 608 MB? How can that be explained?
Has anyone seen their usage suddenly go down for no reason?
I'm in the middle of the billing cycle. I've done nothing to the phone.
Now I've lost all faith in the data usage meter.
GR
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Yes I have experienced the same! I was around 3GB, my phone went completely dead on a Sat night, when I plugged it up in the car and tried to boot it back up it apparently didn't have the juice to boot all the way. I let it charge for a while, booted it, all my SMS tones had been reset and so was my "data usage"!! Sucks!
Well, I have let the battery run down until the phone turned itself off several times, but I hope this is not causing this problem. That would be a pretty significant bug!

Insanely high data usage of "OS Services"

I noticed today that a few days back the "OS Services" consumed 491 Megabytes of 3G data and 1.81 Gigabytes of WiFi data (as reported by 'my data manager'). That's half my monthly data in one day. In the following days I have seen usage of around 60MB per day, and right now it is virtually down to zero again.
Does anybody know what could be causing this, and how I can prevent it from happening again?
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OTA update being downloaded?
Doesnt the data management in settings tell you what app has been using data?
If its in the background, there should be an option to cancel background downloads
Phurkus said:
Doesnt the data management in settings tell you what app has been using data?
If its in the background, there should be an option to cancel background downloads
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No, it says "OS Services", which isn't helpful at all. There was nothing to see in the notification area about something being downloaded, so nothing I could cancel. In fact, I didn't even know something was downloading until I checked my data usage for the month and saw that I had consumed over 50% of my monthly allocation in just 4 days.
srv1973 said:
No, it says "OS Services", which isn't helpful at all. There was nothing to see in the notification area about something being downloaded, so nothing I could cancel. In fact, I didn't even know something was downloading until I checked my data usage for the month and saw that I had consumed over 50% of my monthly allocation in just 4 days.
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it probobly something downloading in the background. do you have your apps set to auto-update? they might be updateing themselfs in the background and not telling you

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