I followed these instructions and it was a resounding success!
http://forums.androidcentral.com/ve...us-mod-palm-touchstone-without-soldering.html
One thing to note: I have the extended battery+cover and while it did technically fit under the back cover with the extended battery+cover it didn't feel right to me(it bulged out a bit) and the there was a gap on the underside of the camera from the back being pushed out.
I switched back to the regular battery and kept using the extended battery case with the inductive coil and there is no bulge or anything, worth dropping 300mah for wireless charging IMO
Edit: Shaved away more of the back grid(and trimmed some copper tape that was kind of interfering with the cover closing) and all is well with the extended battery!
I did the same thing but I also shaved off the "grid" on the back of the door.
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I did the same thing but I also shaved off the "grid" on the back of the door.
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And that made I so the extended battery fit?
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And that made I so the extended battery fit?
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It will fit with the extended battery if you shave off the "grid". Albeit, very snugly.
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I did a touchstone mod for my Droid Charge, but I value NFC (and the warranty) too much to do this for my GN. Nonetheless kudos to the OP cuz I definitely wanted to attempt a touchstone mod for this phone.
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I did a touchstone mod for my Droid Charge, but I value NFC (and the warranty) too much to do this for my GN. Nonetheless kudos to the OP cuz I definitely wanted to attempt a touchstone mod for this phone.
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Nfc is intact if you follow the guide. Also I didn't notice any tripwire stickers or anything inside and their is no soldering so I so I don't see how they would know I opened it up.
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Nfc is intact if you follow the guide. Also I didn't notice any tripwire stickers or anything inside and their is no soldering so I so I don't see how they would know I opened it up.
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Even with that big coil in the way? Nice! I may have to attempt this at some point then, though I really don't want to give up my extended battery in order to make this fit...
It does fit without the extended battery removed its just really tight and the back doesn't fit "well"(its especially hard to get all the tabs to stay in when you first put it on). Trimming away some more of the plastic may help. I'm probably going to try that at some point.
Aren't you fritned of dust comming between your screen and the phone now you've opened it like that ?
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Aren't you fritned of dust comming between your screen and the phone now you've opened it like that ?
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The screen stays attached to the rest of the phone, all you take off is the plastic "ring" around the phone.
Brilliant! Copper Tape is a great idea. Seems this would be pretty easy to do. I just need the Starter Kit and the copper tape....
I got this to do the similar mod, just one wire and copper tape is needed, and the warranty isn't voided, this replacement part only cost me a few $ from china.
one wire to solder the pin indicate with the white dot, and the copper tape just needed to touch the sim card holder, the two ends goes to the two connectors on the touchstone coil.
just a simply explaination.
will do the mod later on.
kms108 said:
I got this to do the similar mod, just one wire and copper tape is needed, and the warranty isn't voided, this replacement part only cost me a few $ from china.
one wire to solder the pin indicate with the white dot, and the copper tape just needed to touch the sim card holder, the two ends goes to the two connectors on the touchstone coil.
just a simply explaination.
will do the mod later on.
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This looks like it would be a lot more involved,
1. It would require VERY precise soldering job to the back of the USB. This is way beyond most people's abilities.
2. It requires you to remove the circuit board from the screen whereas the other method does not.
On the other hand your method probably isn't capped at 500maH
it's a straight forward take apart,even if i mess up the part, it goes into the bin, that why i got an extra piece.
just a blob of solder on the usb and two on the touchstone coil, if you search the net, it's the same method that was used on the i9000, even the usb will work and does not affect any function of the phone.
I modded mine with the Palm/touchstone mod. When I first did the install, I was getting the bulge as mentioned.. after shaving down the back cover and doing some repositioning - it fits fine. No bulge, no extra pressure.. you wouldn't even know it was there.
Also installed the stronger magnets. This way, I installed the touchstone in my car as a car dock and used tasker to launch car home when docked.
Probably the best mod I've ever done. Very simple if you follow the instructions in the link.
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I modded mine with the Palm/touchstone mod. When I first did the install, I was getting the bulge as mentioned.. after shaving down the back cover and doing some repositioning - it fits fine. No bulge, no extra pressure.. you wouldn't even know it was there.
Also installed the stronger magnets. This way, I installed the touchstone in my car as a car dock and used tasker to launch car home when docked.
Probably the best mod I've ever done. Very simple if you follow the instructions in the link.
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Which stronger magnets did you install? I'm thinking of doing the same thing with mine... ^_^
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Which stronger magnets did you install? I'm thinking of doing the same thing with mine... ^_^
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Used these - http://www.kjmagnetics.com/proddetail.asp?prod=D401-N52
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Used these - http://www.kjmagnetics.com/proddetail.asp?prod=D401-N52
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Does that screw with the compass at all?
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Does that screw with the compass at all?
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They don't seem to on mine. Also, order a few extra magnets because they trend to break if you drop them.
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Why does this have to go into the phone and void the warranty. Personally I use a case without cutouts for the pogo pins so i can just attach the tape to the pogo pins right?
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There have been a lot of complaints about the flimsy connector for the Xoom charger. I also think that it is a very poor design at most. The metal pin is too long, the plastic part is poking out too much etc.
I am no engineer and also bad at drawing but I attached something that I think might work. If anyone feels like they could produce a prototype that would be awesome!
The small magnet might or might not work. If you look at the area where all the connectors are you will see a small metal plate that could probably be used to anchor the connector magnetically.
Any feedback is appreciated (even just to say that I am full of sh!t!)
UPDATE: I added an alternative design using the two metal connectors for charging and a silicone plug to keep the connectors in place. A magnet will give additional stability.
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There have been a lot of complaints about the flimsy connector for the Xoom charger. I also think that it is a very poor design at most. The metal pin is too long, the plastic part is poking out too much etc.
I am no engineer and also bad at drawing but I attached something that I think might work. If anyone feels like they could produce a prototype that would be awesome!
The small magnet might or might not work. If you look at the area where all the connectors are you will see a small metal plate that could probably be used to anchor the connector magnetically.
Any feedback is appreciated (even just to say that I am full of sh!t!)
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It charges my Xoom very fast. It is still working and has not caused me any issues. If it breaks, I will come back here to *****.
I was just referring to the connector but thanks for the warning
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I was just referring to the connector but thanks for the warning
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So was I. The stock one works fine however, alternatives are great as well. I just do not see a need for one personally. Others may.
Yeah, the stock connecter scares me. I like your design though I'm not sure anyone here has the means to develop and sell it. I'm hoping maybe someone may find a softwear solution to charge via the USB micro port. What do you guys think, possible or no?
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There have been a lot of complaints about the flimsy connector for the Xoom charger. I also think that it is a very poor design at most. The metal pin is too long, the plastic part is poking out too much etc.
I am no engineer and also bad at drawing but I attached something that I think might work. If anyone feels like they could produce a prototype that would be awesome!
The small magnet might or might not work. If you look at the area where all the connectors are you will see a small metal plate that could probably be used to anchor the connector magnetically.
Any feedback is appreciated (even just to say that I am full of sh!t!)
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I like it! i think its a pretty good idea. Wish i knew someone who could create one. I would buy it. stock one scares me
how the F do magnets work?
anyhow, yeah really good design. I would buy that too.
i just turn it upside down while charging it.
I would buy one of those
I have to ask, why you would use that connector at all if you want to redesign a magnetic charger? Why not use the same priciple to connect it to the two plates on the bottom next to the hole for power?
As someone who repairs laptops for a living, this was the single most troubling design aspect of our new toy. It looks like it will be far to easy to damage the internals of this device with the default power cable.
It would make more sense to use a breakaway magnetic connection that makes contact with the two metal plates. I have not looked in to it too far but it would seem that the docs use this and the USB in them is strictly for audio out.
I was actually wondering if the metal plates would be used for dock charging. Since I don't own a dock I can't check. But if it is then yes, the charger should be attached magnetically! Thanks for the clarification. I'll try to design more options
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So was I. The stock one works fine however, alternatives are great as well. I just do not see a need for one personally. Others may.
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My only complaint with the xoom, honestly is the charging system.
For starters, I don't see a reason to not allow charging over USB. Sure the voltage would only be 5v, and it would take considerably longer, but the option would be nice. This isn't to say I want to do away with the 12v charger, because the speed at which it charges is lovely, just the option for the other.
Secondly, the needle-like connector screams, "I want to be broken quickly!" Was there really a need to make the connector in that type and size?
Thirdly, the placement of the charger port is hideous and impractical. It's dead center at the bottom. I rarely use my xoom flat against a surface. I purchased the display portfolio that motorola made. The charger port is not only a hinderance to the utilization of my portfolio case, but is also covered at all times when using the case in any manner that motorola designed it. I'm sure this is simply a brain-fart on motorola's part, which happens to everyone and is understandable, but is there a reason the charger port couldn't have been placed on one of the sides of the device? I would say preferably the left hand side, as people are less likely to turn the device to sit on that side.
I'm not simply posting this to complain, just express my thoughts on the only true fault that I feel the xoom has. On that note, a 90 degree *honestly 180 degree by the design sketch* connector would be lovely, IMO. It still wouldn't be usable with the portfolio case, but it would allow someone to angle the xoom without fear of breaking the charger off inside it.
The two metal plates are indeed for charging on the dock. It takes away the need to use the stock charger on the needle tip. Just plug the charger into the dock and set the Xoom on it. I charge this way every time.
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The two metal plates are indeed for charging on the dock. It takes away the need to use the stock charger on the needle tip. Just plug the charger into the dock and set the Xoom on it. I charge this way every time.
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Only problem is that's a $70-$120 solution
Why even have the plug then and just use the metal plates?
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Why even have the plug then and just use the metal plates?
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The plug would add additional stability so that it doesn't come off so easily. Not sure how strong you could make the magnets. As I said, I'm no engineer
Makes sense, maybe a smaler nub though haha, otherwise I like the idea
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The plug would add additional stability so that it doesn't come off so easily. Not sure how strong you could make the magnets. As I said, I'm no engineer
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Apple has a patent on the magnetically attached charger. Perhaps this is why motorola went the direction that it did.
http://patft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph...XT&s1=7311526.PN.&OS=PN/7311526&RS=PN/7311526
im gonna make this. I will let you guys know how it works. my first android by the way!
Sweet! I was also thinking about getting some latex and a second charger that I can strip and modify. This will be so cool!
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OK i have managed it, getting the palm touchstone to wirelessly charge the S3
it does bulge the back cover ever so slightly, but new ones are available.. and it will tide me over until the official solution is released in September
it charges slightly slower than with a directly attached cable, about 450ma i get about 950ma from the direct connection.
but it is much less hassle
http://youtu.be/uAqP3T_Mbzg
Wow, I would never have dreamed of trying such madness, yet here's the proof
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Nice work. I was wondering how much the palm coil would bulge out the battery cover and thinking of doing it myself.
JayGoat said:
Nice work. I was wondering how much the palm coil would bulge out the battery cover and thinking of doing it myself.
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In all honest its not much, and as you saw the cover still closes ok
It will do for a few months until the oficial cover is available
I have those parts and a soldering iron. I might buy a spare cover and give it a go.
I mounted a touchstone in my car and charged my Pre that way. It would be pretty killer if I could do it with the S3.
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That is a brilliant idea and a good method.. I will also give it a try.
But i am wondering if samsung is planning to release somewhat familiar technology officially? it looks very user friendly!!
vanada said:
That is a brilliant idea and a good method.. I will also give it a try.
But i am wondering if samsung is planning to release somewhat familiar technology officially? it looks very user friendly!!
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Ues there is plans, they say around september, will be a new back cover and a charging pad
Search google for Samsung S3 wireless charger, and you will see it
I had the touchstone, and a back cover spare, and i thought i would make use of it until the genuine item is available
JayGoat said:
Nice work. I was wondering how much the palm coil would bulge out the battery cover and thinking of doing it myself.
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try to replace normal wire by copper wire like I did and the backcover is perfectly fit
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27586305&postcount=22
hopefully more ideas can be shared. Copper tape might work well
Hi,
I'm new there, get Galaxy SII about a month ago. Since the beggining I'm using the Otterbox Commuter case and trying to connect charger in the total darkness makes my angry too often, I wanted to get wireless.
I know that there are some topics on xda already but none of u decided to go that way - IMO the easiest way.
I've used my Otterbox case and Powermat Wireless Charging System for Blackberry Curve 8520/9300 (u can find it at Amazon, search for B00462QB4W at really nice price ~6 pounds). Basically, u just need to take out coil and electronics from the blackberry cover with the socket (yes, that tiny socket on side of the cover) & pull out micro usb<->electronics connector. Now u can bin blackberry cover as ts useless now.
Next the worst thing, I have to cut out some more plastic on the hard part of the case and connector, to make the usb plug more in the middle(it not gonna fit as u get it) - making all fit properly was the hardest thing.
Easy - stick coil with PCB on the middle of your case, remember about socket which have to be exactly in the middle of the cutout for charger. I have used some super glue to stick this socket to case.
Now easy - X-acto knife and cut out srubber part of the case - need space for electonic - until I did it there was no chance at all to put phone into case.
Everything done - time to test wireless case for SGS2 and... it doesn't work
Quick check and the problem was between plug & socket on the case - the solution was to put some rubber from the case on the connector which isn't too thick.
I've put phone again into case, put on the Powermat plate and... it's charging finally
All that work took about 25-30 minutes.
U need just some super glue, sharp knife, sandpaper, site cutters can be also helpfull
If u don't feel too much in DIY stuff this way gonna be the best for u - No need to solder anything
Any questions? Feel free to ask
Yeah, nice work, but I wish to see video or photo because it is easy way to understand the idea my friend
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al3nkbootas said:
Yeah, nice work, but I wish to see video or photo because it is easy way to understand the idea my friend
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Unfortunately no photos of work but will try to make some of the finished project at the evening.
i'm too new on the board, so cannot post pictures :/
theres album > imageshack.us/ g /1/9941419/
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i'm too new on the board, so cannot post pictures :/
theres album > imageshack.us/ g /1/9941419/
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I cant get the link to work.
f4s7d3r3k said:
I cant get the link to work.
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Just remove spaces, it works.
Links:
PowerMat Kit
Otterbox Commuter Samsung Galaxy S2 - price is shockin high at the moment
Gallery
I didn't want to Void my warranty by soldering the touchstone wires inside the phone so i cut open a micro USB cable and wired the coil to it. Much easier way to do it i recon.
Neat idea, though I'm not really convinced wireless charging is an improvement over wired so long as the phone still has to be right next to the hub.
Nice proof of concept though, certainly more user friendly than soldering.
Always nice to see a Touchstone mod. I wired my coil up to the pogo pins for a neater appearance, and to leave the micro USB free. Works very nicely as a desktop dock/cradle.
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Always nice to see a Touchstone mod. I wired my coil up to the pogo pins for a neater appearance, and to leave the micro USB free. Works very nicely as a desktop dock/cradle.
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I tried wiring it to the Pogo pins on the outside of the phone but no success. Unfortunately i sent my phone back for a full refund today (Screen seems to be coming off and vibration motor is weak) This was my 4th replacement. Given up with HTC now. I'm getting a Sony Xperia Z
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I tried wiring it to the Pogo pins on the outside of the phone but no success. Unfortunately i sent my phone back for a full refund today (Screen seems to be coming off and vibration motor is weak) This was my 4th replacement. Given up with HTC now. I'm getting a Sony Xperia Z
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Being the 4th replacement, I have to say it is something you are doing, and not the manufacture
omondisingh said:
I tried wiring it to the Pogo pins on the outside of the phone but no success. Unfortunately i sent my phone back for a full refund today (Screen seems to be coming off and vibration motor is weak) This was my 4th replacement. Given up with HTC now. I'm getting a Sony Xperia Z
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A very small piece of copper foil screwed up and pushed into the pogo pin recess was how I managed it. Not the most elegant solution, but it works well Top pin is +5V, bottom pin is Ground.
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Being the 4th replacement, I have to say it is something you are doing, and not the manufacture
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1st phone had Audio stutter issues and the vibration motor was making a clicking noise, Sent it for repair and returned it the same way. Not even the software update fixed the issue. The second one had Screen flex issues and capacitive button light leaked a lot into the screen. Third one has screen flicker issue mostly visible in grey areas. Software upgrade and custom Roms did not fix the issue. The 4th one's vibration motor was weak and did not work sometimes and the screen was loose from the top. Its like they have not used strong glue to stick the Digitizer to the LCD panel. My girlfriend has the same phone which she got on contract yet she has no issues with it. I guess i'm an unlucky guy when it comes to HTC. I should get my Xperia Z on March 1st Super exited
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A very small piece of copper foil screwed up and pushed into the pogo pin recess was how I managed it. Not the most elegant solution, but it works well Top pin is +5V, bottom pin is Ground.
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I'm basically thinking of doing the same thing that you did but my case is kinda tight . How much do you think it adds to the thickness? Where did you get materials from?
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I'm basically thinking of doing the same thing that you did but my case is kinda tight . How much do you think it adds to the thickness? Where did you get materials from?
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I'm using the sgp ultra thin case and there is no thickness difference. Materials can be found on eBay.
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I'm basically thinking of doing the same thing that you did but my case is kinda tight . How much do you think it adds to the thickness? Where did you get materials from?
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My case is both thin and tight to the back, and it will fit in there as it is, but it will leave a bulge. I refined this by carving out recesses in the case with a dremel for a better fit, and now you wouldn't know that anything is in there. I recommend using circuitry from the Palm Pre back case rather than the Pixi as there is a smaller circuit board to fit in.
Materials are all from ebay. I just bought another Pre case so I can mod my HTC Desire, and that cost me £3.50 delivered. Touchstone bases can usually be found for about £5. If you don;t see any on there for such cheap prices, then just wait a few days and one will almost always come up. Copper tape/foil is sold on there too, usually marketed as snail repellent.
A word of warning about the Touchstone base: you need a very slim micro USB plug to fit in the narrow gap. The One X lead works perfectly, but anything bigger will not be able to go through the opening.
Finally here's a diagram showing the thickness of the parts. Have fun modding
Btw u got nice cover and rom,from where did u get this cover and which rom r u using.
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Btw u got nice cover and rom,from where did u get this cover and which rom r u using.
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Its a Spigen Cover with a Monster Energy sticker on it. I think i was using a sense rom with xperia Z launcher.
Hey everyone,
This is my first modification guide thingy so I hope it is ok and useful to some of you. I purchased an N5 off of Swappa recently that came with the N4 Wireless Charging Orb and the newer glass-topped N5 wireless charger. I assume the original owner was sick of how the orb performed (Google failed with the design of it) and bought the other charger. I was about to throw it away but started doing some research. Some other people have modified the orb, but the results are extremely ugly. I'll show you what I've done and how I'm incorporating this into my 1999 Jeep Cherokee Sport. I want the result to look like it was factory installed and without any external suction cup wireless charger with ugly ass arms that clamp around the phone. I want it to be completely invisible until I plop my phone on it.
After I took everything apart I was going to try and reuse the casing somehow, so that's why this image is covered with a different covering than the Nexus imprinted rubber on the top. I decided against reusing the casing because it looked ugly and I found a better way.
Step 1 - Remove the Nexus rubber to expose the screws
Peel back the Nexus rubber covering to reveal the screws. I ended up ripping the rubber so be careful if you plan to reuse it. Honestly, you probably won't be able to get it to sit right even if you do plan to reuse it. The screws will be at 12, 3, 6, and 9 oclock.
Step 2 - Remove the screws to take off the top and and get access to the PCB/Wireless Charging Coil
Some people say you can just unscrew the screws, but mine were glued in with locktite or something. I had to drill them out. I used an 1/8" bit. Be careful not to hit the board. I hit the board a little bit ( since you can't really see it with the top on still) but everything seems to work. From there just take off the top and remove the board. You'll have to remove the 2 other screws holding the L shaped metal thing to completely remove the unit.
Step 3 - Buy Neodymium magnets and add them to the coil
I purchased these magnets (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001ANVAHI/). They were $7.79 for 100. Since this is going in a vehicle and there's going to be bumpiness, I ended up using 44 magnets around the outside of the coil (stacked 2 high, all the way around). They hold on to each other and the coil magnetically, but I'll probably throw some double sided sticky tape around the edges to make sure they don't go anywhere.
Step 4 - Find the area in your vehicle where you're going to mount it and make a vinyl template
In my Cherokee, there's an ashtray which I never use (I don't smoke). Some people take out the ashtray and put a switch panel there for external lighting and what not. I thought, that's the perfect spot for a wireless charger. I grabbed some green car vinyl my friend had laying around, and cut it to match the ash tray. In the image above I layed it over the top, but I will be removing the ash tray completely so it sits flush. I plastidipped the vinyl black to match the interior of my truck (as close as possible) and to add a little more grip.
Step 5 - Mount and wire the wireless charger/vinyl covering
This will be done this coming Tuesday, but the image above is a test. It charges perfectly and is a very strong hold. I do not see this going anywhere when I'm driving. I'll reply to this thread with pictures of the final product next week.
Nicely done! Love the added magnets
Not sure I'd destroy my $50 charger to do this...but now I'm thinking of picking one of those cheap $15 Qi China chargers to disect
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Nicely done! Love the added magnets
Not sure I'd destroy my $50 charger to do this...but now I'm thinking of picking one of those cheap $15 Qi China chargers to disect
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You have the Nexus orb? And yours actually works? My phone would slide right off of that thing and I'd wake up with a dead phone. You really wouldn't damage the thing if you were careful. You might be able to unscrew the screws without using a drill.
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You have the Nexus orb? And yours actually works? My phone would slide right off of that thing and I'd wake up with a dead phone. You really wouldn't damage the thing if you were careful. You might be able to unscrew the screws without using a drill.
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Mine works great because I don't use a case, so the back of the rubbery orb sticks nicely to the back of my rubbery Nexus 5! with my old nexus 4, it didn't stick naked, but did stick after I put a wet application protector. I can imagine most cases not sticking and it sliding off though
Here's my final setup and finished product! Head to 3:00 mark for the wireless charger.
geat! probably i`ll do the same on my car
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geat! probably i`ll do the same on my car
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The wireless charger works great, such a strong hold and completely invisible.