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I am a newbie and not myself a developer, so if this question or my accessing this list is out of line, let me know. I am looking for a way to restore the former ROM that was on my device before upgrading.
Cingular/ATT just sent out an upgrade on their 8525 ROM, not to Windows Mobile 6, but just a more enhanced Windows Mobile 5 with push to talk, and some other changes.
After upgrading the ROM, my backup file for my Personal Databases will not restore. The Sprite Backup (5.1) backup file was the only storage I had of important data at least for the last four months, when I stopped being able to activesync it. The support staff at Sprite said they got my personal databases file to work, so I know the file itself is not corrupted, and the data is there, but every time I try to restore it to my 8525 (ie, following a hard reset, with and without the sbu file that Sprite created for moving from one ROM to another)... every time I try to restore it, it corrupts my Calendar and Contacts programs, bringing in no data, and making the Contacts program unusable.
My best guess is that the only way I can regain access to this data is to restore to the old ROM, then fix the ActiveSync problem, and save the data that way, then reupgrade to the new ROM, and sync that.
I give all this detail in case someone has a better suggestion as to what might be causing the Personal Database file not to restore, and not to work following the upgrade.
Short of that, I'd be interested if anyone can show me where I might restore the old ROM. Private replies are accepted.
Tom Bartlett
Here's the original 1.34.502 ROM for the 8525. If you're needing the UNofficial 2.06 leaked release, I don't have that one. . . sorry
Thanks so much!
Tom Bartlett
I am not sure how to use what the link downloaded. Perhaps my mistake was in downloading it to my laptop, for later use? It came as a large zip file, with three RAW files.
How do I use that download to change my ROM?
My guess is that I'll need to have my 8525 synced in Active Sync, and do the hit "run" rather than "save as" ?
Tom
CRAP!! Disregard that file. . . it's the wrong one. I'm uploading the CORRECT one right now.
I'm soooo sorry. . . I'll be back with the correct link as soon as it's uploaded.
Here it is. . . the CORRECT file.
Gentlemen, (and ladies if any of you are hiding around here)
Whenever I flush my device I use PIM Backup and Sashimi to restore PIM data and install some of the apps I use. The thing I'm missing is a simple way to backup other device characteristics and features. These are many small things, like the order of the manila tabs, communication settings etc. They are all pretty simple to set manually, but since there are many of them it would be nice to find an automatic way to do them.
Below is a numbered list of things I would like to restore. If you have a good solution to anything on the list, please post it here. If you have other things you would like to backup, please add them as well.
1) Tab order in TF3D [hint]
2) List of apps included in the "Start" menu [solution - files]
3) List of cities in the weather tab [solution - Reg entry]
4) List of "Favorites" in the People tab [solution - file]
5) Browser Bookmarks [solution - files]
6) Internet Services Settings (e.g. The default access name is "uinternet" and I have to set it to "internet" manually) [possibe solution]
7) Default ring tones
8) Programs in the Program Launcher tab [solution - Reg entry]
9) Email accounts (PIM backup fails to set up my IMAP accounts. I'm not even sure it suppose to) [hint]
I'm aware of apps that can be used change many settings, like "Diamond Advanced Config", or the "Diamond TF3D Config". If possible don't just pint to apps that can do something manually, but suggest how to script a solution that can make the changes automatically.
For the purpose of this thread please assume that Sashimi is installed and can be used, but if the solution calls for a script or a registry entry change, please include or quote the file that can be used with Sashimi.
This is my first post in this tremendously helpful, active and important site, so I would also like to say thanks to all of the contributors, chefs, admins, moderators etc. who are supporting this site.
Owlen
owlen said:
1) Tab order in TF3D
2) List of apps included in the "Start" menu
3) List of cities in the weather tab
4) List of "Favorites" in the People tab
5) Browser Bookmarks
6) Internet Services Settings (e.g. The default access name is "uinternet" and I have to set it to "internet" manually)
7) Default ring tones
8) Programs in the Program Launcher tab
9) Email accounts (PIM backup fails to set up my IMAP accounts. I'm not even sure it suppose to)
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I'm sorry I can't give you working Mort scripts or .reg files etc. At least, not yet. But I'm searching for similar info and solutions, as I have the same need to automate installation after hard reset as much as I can. In general, for settings that are saved in the registry, you'll have to find out where the registry keys are saved, so you can export and import them using Sashimi.
1) I suggest asking sushilange, the creator of Diamond TF3D Config, or schaps, the creator of Advanced Config, how and where Manilla saves the TF3D tab order. If the registry is used, we can export the keys and import them using Sashimi. If the tabs are saved in one or more of the obscure Manilla files in \Windows, we can also save and restore them using Sashimi.
2) If I understand you correctly, just save and restore any shortcuts you like from \Windows\Start Menu with Sashimi.
3) You can try to add cities for your Manilla/ROM by setting up and running this application as part of your Sashimi setup. Or you can contact the creator, or the creator of the WeatherDatabaseEditor and find out which file(s) to backup and restore using Sashimi, after you're done editing your cities..
4) Don't know yet. Maybe sushilange, D-MAN666 or any of the other guys working on editing Manilla know how and where Manilla saves the TF3D contact favorites..
5) For Opera Mobile save and restore \Windows\Opera9\opera6.adr. For Pocket Internet Explorer save and restore \Windows\Favorites
6) Have a look at the provisioning functions in Makisu. I know the previous version of Makisu can setup e-mail accounts and maybe the new version can setup connections as well..
7) Don't know yet, probably somewhere in the registry
8) I suggest seacrhing or asking sushilange how and where Manilla saves the programs in the TF3D Programs tab. If the registry is used, we can export the keys and import them using Sashimi. If the tabs are saved in one or more of the obscure Manilla files in \Windows, we can also save and restore them using Sashimi.
9) Have a look at the provisioning functions in Makisu. You can't create your e-mail accounts with the backup applications I know..
favorite people seems to be in the pim.vol file. You can copy that file to internal storage and restore is using total commander.. or spb backup restores the favorite people as well
programs in manilla are listed in the registry under this key:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Manila\ProgramLauncher]
cities found under weather are in the registry here:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HTC\Manila]
back it up and pop it in sashimi
good luck with the rest... its sad we have yet to see an all-in-one backup solution. Actually, i think it'd be great to see a manilla backup program developed for the issues you're raising.. tab order, people, programs, weather, etc
im eagerly awaiting this, ROM updates are so annoying when there's no simple backup solution
Please take a look before you post a thread in a certain section. This has nothing to do with ROM development...
Thanks for the hints, people. I'll start linking to them.
I'm still not sure how to contact the apps developers. If anyone can point them here that would be great.
mccune, I considered putting it elsewhere, but I think the issue of automating many small stuff like that is mostly common for people who flush ROMs. I believe that currently this thread is the one they read most often. If this thread will have some good solutions, or even better, lead to a development of a tool that can take care of all of this, I guess it could be placed anywhere and maybe the standard sticky tutorials would link to it.
If anyone has additional stuff he would like to restore – please post and I'll try to put it up in the list.
Mandragore & racerx_, thanks for the answers!
I have opened a thread here with all info to do automatic backup of all you have asked for, and more.
kika.93 said:
I have opened a thread here with all info to do automatic backup of all you have asked for, and more.
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Very good, thanks!
as we know on Windows PC, ADD/REMOVE programs tends to leave some registry files or some small junk files behind in the System, and we had to clean those up using some 3rd party software ( example: Your Uninstaller! 2008 )
ok so is there any software that works like that for WM? or for X1?
or is the Remove Program that comes from WM default pretty much un-install all the registry or junk files along without leaving it behind, so it's like never been installed.., because i hate to have some un-associated left overs files on my Phone even if it's just 1kb
thanks.
With the sktools you can 'really remove' apps installed on the X1. I only use this method and it feels really better than before
how does it work? it removes all the associated files along till a very "clean" uninstall?
When you click that you want to uninstall a program, the application shows you every reg-string and file that is connected to the programm. Then you can choose to delete those.
sounds like a kick ass app
thanks!
hmm, ok i need a bit of a help here
so there are a list of the types here..
which one do i install...
WM 2003(SE), WM5/WM6 Classic and Professional, (W)QVGA and (W)VGA zipped PC Install
WM 2003(SE) (W)VGA zipped CAB file unzipped CAB
WM 2003(SE) (W)QVGA zipped CAB file unzipped CAB
WM5/WM6 (W)VGA zipped CAB file unzipped CAB
WM5/WM6 (W)QVGA zipped CAB file unzipped CAB
also they have standard, lite..
what are their differences?
the only freeware is the SK Lite..
de Wolfe said:
With the sktools you can 'really remove' apps installed on the X1. I only use this method and it feels really better than before
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de wolfe... I have the SKTools and I have no idea what is the difference between standard uninstall and uninstall. What is the difference?
Standard uninstall is what it sais, the same thing windows does. The uninstall SKtools provides does the more thorough job.
You'll need "WM5/WM6 (W)VGA zipped CAB file unzipped CAB" TweFoju.
ok thanks
and another thing
it's on trial and total of 6 entries only
do you know how to make it full version?
some sort of a serial number to activate it or something?
that would be so awesome
Come on, dude. The app costs around 10€. Good investment!
TweFoju said:
ok thanks
and another thing
it's on trial and total of 6 entries only
do you know how to make it full version?
some sort of a serial number to activate it or something?
that would be so awesome
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Yes, buy it! You may not ask for cracks, keygens or other illegal software here.
For your info, if you go to the SKKV site, they are currently offering 50% off their products including SKTOOLS.
http://skkvsoftware.com/?m_bnews.html
I have no affliation, other than loving a bargain
alright, i decided to purchase it
so far so good
i only have a couple of newb questions left ( sorry, im not very advanced with these kind of stuffs )
all i want to know is, which of the category is safe to perform? at least for a beginner user like me that will not know what to do if something gone wrong
i mean like, there is a "Advanced Clean" that im not sure what it will delete
so far, i only used "Invalid Registry Entries", "Temporary and Junk Files", "Temporary amd Cache Folders" and of course the "Clean!"
i kinda wanna use the "Invalid Registry Values" and "Advanced Clean", but i dont know what will they delete..
i fear those 2 might delete some of the important files because the list that came out was like the Panel stuffs and all
and also i wanted to check the "Bad/Old Uninstall Info" part
but not sure what will it delete..
oh yeah and 1 more thing.. when on the "Installed Programs"
i saw some of the software that are pre-installed by SE have some 1 to 3 missing registry that is written in a red text.. is that some problem or it' just like that from the factory settings?
or is it better for me to re-install those particular software that are missing some files / registry ?
thanks again.. sorry if these are all silly questions
all i want to know is, which of the category is safe to perform? at least for a beginner user like me that will not know what to do if something gone wrong
Class I Unsafe:
Invalid Registry Entries
Invalid Registry Values
Notifications Queue
[These are dangerous because on some Xperia's they will probably delete the registry settings for Panel Manager ... they always delete my panel manager registry settings and make my panel manager not work]
[Notifications Queue ... I am not sure how unsafe it is to mess with it, but I think messing with it will make scheduled programs not work]
Class II Unsafe:
Registry Explorer
[it's not dangerous if you follow directions from pros or know exactly what you are doing]
Class III Unsafe:
Processes
Services
[if you terminate a process when it is doing something, you might cause data corruption...i terminated my media panel and it totally destroyed my library and prevented from updating the MP3, Pics, and Videos]
[services can be reverted back to original settings, unlike deleting invalid registries]
i mean like, there is a "Advanced Clean" that im not sure what it will delete
Advanced clean is absolutely safe
so far, i only used "Invalid Registry Entries", "Temporary and Junk Files", "Temporary amd Cache Folders" and of course the "Clean!"
When you deleting invalid registry entries, make sure you know deleting that entry actually is the right thing to do. If you have no idea what it does then don't delete it....
You can undo it right now by tapping on SKTools Backup
i kinda wanna use the "Invalid Registry Values" and "Advanced Clean", but i dont know what will they delete..
Advance clean is totally safe, and invalid registry values are not at all
and also i wanted to check the "Bad/Old Uninstall Info" part
Safe
i saw some of the software that are pre-installed by SE have some 1 to 3 missing registry that is written in a red text.. is that some problem or it' just like that from the factory settings?
It's missing values and you wouldn't know why, just ignore it if you're program works. I have alot of these and I have no problem
thanks for that man!! but how do we know if the registry is the panel one? i found the registrybackup folder on "My Documents"
well so far, the registry cleaner only delete 14 registry files... and i have no idea what registry file it belongs to
if only i could rep, i would
Well I try to look up for the date in which I deleted the registry.
um? sorry i dont get your meaning
what does the deletion date has anything to do ?
what i meant is that, i deleted some registry
but how do i know if which registry belong to which app?
because they are just all written in some numbers like {AIU123456} so on and on
TweFoju said:
um? sorry i dont get your meaning
what does the deletion date has anything to do ?
what i meant is that, i deleted some registry
but how do i know if which registry belong to which app?
because they are just all written in some numbers like {AIU123456} so on and on
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{AIU123456} means that the registry key is called {AIU123456}. I could be wrong. Try opening \my documents\registrybkup and copy a .rgb file into the PC and see if you can view it as a notepad.
ClearTemp (Pocket PC) 1.2.2
Download this: ClearTemp (Pocket PC) 1.2.2
works great
Firstly let me say, Thanks for taking the time to read my post.
I don't know about y'all, but, i kinda get a little fed up of re-entering all my settings after each flash, wouldn't it be nice if someone developed either a script or app that backed up email, sound, wallpaper, visual style's and just about everything else into a cab or xml file?
Well i have searched the forums and have come up with nothing so far!!!
Now... I haven't looked into this in great detail, but, i have written many a script and such for Desktop Windows that when run create a backup copy of documents and certain registry settings then reboot into PE (in a separate partition) format, reinstall windows and applications and then re-apply settings and files (see http://www.msfn.org/board/forum.html search for my username for confirmation)
I know that Windows Mobile and Desktop are very different, but, i feel confident that i can accomplish the same results (with the help of ROM Chefs and other apps already written)
My Goal... To write an app/script that when run, backs up various registry keys/values and/or files and saves to either a .cab or .xml file in a UC folder stored on a memory card and if a RHODIMG.nbh file is present then will reboot the phone into bootloader mode and install the new ROM (this is where ROM Chefs need to come together and become uniform) if it isn't present and is connected to a pc asks for the location of a ROM and copies it to the memory card (renaming if needed)
Problems... Unlike Windows Desktop there are so many different things that i have to account for EG: Each Chef has their own style and preference, i CANNOT create an automated backup for every chef (nor can i be biased) so to start i will choose my own way and if chefs/developers want to jump in and help then perhaps we can create something with template files to suit, i don't want to sway anyone or anything and I have tried many, many ROM's (have never created a ROM so i dare not criticize, but, more often than not, my preference has been NRG's and that's where i will start...) as such i will have to look into the main core of ROM's to see what is available on MOST ROMS, IE: Facebook, twitter, email, sound...
This is likely to be a long project and very unlikely to be a one man band. And like i said, i have not looked into this all that much, and may be a little more difficult than i first thought (please remember i have to learn a whole new environment and depending on the complexity AND the amount of free time i have "kids!!! who'd have'em...lol..." depends on the timeframe of this potential project)
So if you can bare with me and/or share a little knowledge to speed up the process of this, then please do... It will be greatly appreciated
Happy Flashing
Lee
You might check Sashimi and XDA_UC.
Also commercial apps, spb backup & spb clone...
PimBackup does the same thing...
Well minus the reg entries.
You could also script using the beta form of AutoHotkeyCE (version of Autohotkey being ported to PPC), I know you could write a script to backup the reg entries and automate the restore of stuff in that too.
Okidoki.
With help of WinComm and little bit luck I found this...
See Screenshot.
This Backup Restore thingie is maybe same mechanism like Kies use...
These folders are removed after finish... I have NO idea what happens with these files... or where stored...
WinComm only show me this:
Code:
+[055]=> [641.314]Packaging Start[/Media/_SamsungBnR_/DRM.bk]
+[056]=> [641.560]Packaging Finish[/Media/_SamsungBnR_/DRM.bk]:[Success]
+[057]=> [641.618]Packaging Start[/Media/_SamsungBnR_/Configuration.bk]
+[058]=> [642.016]Packaging Finish[/Media/_SamsungBnR_/Configuration.bk]:[Success]
+[059]=> [642.072]Packaging Start[/Media/_SamsungBnR_/Message.bk]
+[060]=> [642.095]Packaging Finish[/Media/_SamsungBnR_/Message.bk]:[Success]
+[061]=> [642.152]Packaging Start[/Media/_SamsungBnR_/MusicSetting.bk]
+[062]=> [642.176]Packaging Finish[/Media/_SamsungBnR_/MusicSetting.bk]:[Success]
+[063]=> [642.231]Packaging Start[/Media/_SamsungBnR_/PhotoSetting.bk]
+[064]=> [642.251]Packaging Finish[/Media/_SamsungBnR_/PhotoSetting.bk]:[Success]
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But I can't find *.bk files...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19756666&postcount=10
You need Internal Menu...
Maybe someone could help to understand how it work...
Thanx.
Best Regards
hmmmmmm
This backup function done from the internal menu makes the files only while real backup is done by Kies
What i mean is if you clicked backup in Kies it sends a command to backup these files just like from internal menu then copy them to the *.sbu file
You can see that Kies is making a temp folder during backup that has all the files then deletes it after completing...I catched one of those temp folders before just before its delete but it don't has *.bk files at all ....It contains real data
Best Regards
If I'm fast enough, then I can catch few files...
Attached is filelist...
Hmmm.
But I don't understand where result is stored...
My testdevice is nearly empty... Maybe on full device better to see something.
Best Regards
Searching for String _SamsungBnR_ leads to this:
WsSyncml.so
in ShpApp.app
And in FFS I see this:
Contents.xml
...
Best Regards
Edit 1.
With help of this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21142664&postcount=186
Thanx again.
I have made ELF file... it is attached.
But my brain is too small.
Maybe someone can see, what where how is stored.
Thanx.
Best Regards
I am wondering why we never used alternate ways for faster Restore in "new" Firmware...
1. Multiloader "advanced" stuff
All user used Kies update in bada 1.x know.
That it is possible to update WITHOUT dataloss.
1.1
Users can read... in Multiloader
Differences only.
Why I never seen Tutorial to make own PFS + ShpApp_HD.app.
1.2
It seems most now only MINOR changes in apps_compressed... ever same size...
I have also few tests, where I have only flashed apps_compressed.bin...
Why we ever flash FULL and erase all our stuff...
I ever thought. Lemmings is an only nice Game....
2.
FOTA update is without dataloss...
Okidoki. But other problems as only few users are able to enter...
3.
Now 1 of the advanced thingie...
Why not investigate some time and energy to BACKUP database... in main it is:
DB2 and Registry folder...
Its long time ago...
I was able to make clones...
1:1 copy on 2 handsets...
Last tested Version was XXJL2.
Warning! During security it is not risk free to play with database.
Bootcycle etc...
But hey...
We not know how long Samsung need to rollout bada 2.0 ...
and make PFS + ShpApp_HD.app for S8500/S8530
I think it is NOT magic or impossible... Only little bit time and brain needed.
Best Regards
small pfs i used to work with
b.kubica
Thanx again.
It takes long time before I have realized how usefull SHP_CSC_FEATURES.zip is.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21697568&postcount=13
After short look into your attached PFS I must smile little bit...
SHP_CSC_FEATURE_RECORD_VOICE=1
Thank you very much for all your findings.
Best Regards
sorry i haven't seen your thread when i opend my new thread
but these are all i've found from sbu files
that might help you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1469175
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another thing that i understood right now!!
when you extract a .sbu file via 7zip you see a file "_mainfest.xml" which includes a "device id" that is static for all backups of a device
so maybe replacing this device id with our device id (which can be found with making a small backup) might help installing a device's backup on another
@Adfree
About PFS updating
I made an update for my own custom with my own hands ....No need for Kies anymore
http://www.sammobile.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3417
How i did it
I used WinMerge to compare every file from XXKL6 & XXLA1
Made PFS file from differences
Added some tweaks to make CSC & Registry updates
PFS is really a nice idea to update registry if what you are updating doesn't need master reset
Best Regards
Little progress...
*.bk files are simple ZIP.
I have catch them during Kies Backup...
My handset was new flashed... nothing installed...
Now several ideas...
Best Regards
a dummy question!!!
what do you want to do by knowing the mechanism of backups?
i myself like to restore a backup of a handset on another !
Totally forgotten...
But it seems now with DisableBadaIntegrity you can backup and restore DB2 folder... :good:
Via Multiloader...
This means f. Database...
Not tested yet by me... maybe "sooon"...
On bada 1.x it was possible to make 1:1 Backups...
Thank you b.kubica
Best Regards
BackupInfo.dcf
These files are created in every Info folder... if Internal Menu Backup is used...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19756666&postcount=10
If you open these files... you can see:
Content-Vendor:htpp://samsungindia.com
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=33260382&postcount=47
...
Best Regards