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[Q] EVO USERS RUNNING CM6 - Do you miss 4g?

Quick question, hopefully i'm not being redundant at all
1. For EVO users who switched to Cyanogen, Do you miss 4g? I know they're working on it now, and it will be out soon, but I'm thinking of switching from my rooted stock rom to CM6.1.1 and that way I atleast have a nand of CM before the new version hits.
I AM in a 4g coverage area, and I usually get 5-9 Mbps with 4g and only around 1Mpbs with 3g.
2. Also, Why do so many people switch to Cyanogen? I use Launcherpro, and it's pretty snappy, and with root I have wireless tether, I'm running a theme, and you really can't even tell it's sense. Am I losing speed by having sense running in the background? I guess I'm just looking for someone to help me justify the move to CM, haha.
3. Also, Do i NEED to do a full wipe before installing rom? Or is it not absolutely necessary?
Thanks to any replies in advance!

CyanogenMOD (AOSP) is a completely different level of performance than any Sense-based ROM can offer. You can install LauncherPRO as your launcher in CM just for familiarity.
I do miss 4G with CM occasioncally, but it's not a dealbreaker. I'll go without 4G to stay with CM (which should come to an end hopefully very soon).

OOO thanks for the reply, Do I need to do a full wipe before installing?? Or is it okay if I don't?

No because my area doesn't have 4G yet. Maybe when I go out of town next week and am in a 4G coverage area I will, but I will flash the nightlies to see if it is implemented and if I really want to use it, I will flash a sense rom.

travis.rudd said:
OOO thanks for the reply, Do I need to do a full wipe before installing?? Or is it okay if I don't?
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Yes, you need to do a full wipe: Data, Cache, Dalvik Cache. Also, you need to make sure you have downloaded and flash GApps, otherwise you'll have no market.

Nope, don't miss it at all, especially since we don't have 4G in San Diego yet, although I do travel to a lot of 4G cities for work. Also, 4G is now working on CM...it just hasn't been integrated into the nightlies yet because they are still smoothing out all the kinks.

Don't miss 4g, but like you I really don't see a real reason to have switched...I just like changing roms. I don't see much of a difference in performance between cm and fresh, BUT one thing I do like is that it has a much smaller footprint. I gained about 50mb by switching to cm.
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How do I get my data back from titanium backup? DO I have to redownload it?
Thanks!

travis.rudd said:
How do I get my data back from titanium backup? DO I have to redownload it?
Thanks!
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you only have to download titanium backup from the market and run restore from there. I recommend the pro version though

won't have to miss it for much longer...already in the works

I know I can't wait!!!

CM has a lot of small tweaks that just make the experience better. Like the lockscreen gestures for example, or the notification bar power controls. Plus since its AOSP, tweaks and themes from other phones are far more likely to work, and things like changing your phone's lcd density look much better. And getting the latest android updates months before they're released by htc is pretty nice too.
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No, because WiMax is now finished, and just getting polished right now. By the time the Gingerbread nightlies start rolling out, so will WiMax support.

I like CM but no 4G is a deal breaker. I use my Sling Box for sports and 3G + sling-box = sucks. I gotta have me some 4G.

I mostly use 4g just for browsing the internet and updating my Feedr...
So MOST of the time I don't need 4g, when I look at youtube, or somethign like that, it IS nice....
AHH I can't decide whether I want it or not! haha

What many people don't realize is that, while WiMAX (a.k.a. 4G) is often faster than 3G in file transfers, the high ping times, i.e. latency, are almost identical in most situations, so doing basic things on your phone won't have a major boost in speed on a WiMAX connection. If you were downloading a ROM from Clockwork or any other large transfer, 4G ideally would be significantly faster than 3G. Updating Twitbook or Facespace wouldn't have a big difference in speed unless you had a gawd awful 3G connection and for some reason a good 4G connection. The major dealbreaker for most is the extremely negative impact it has on battery and how shaky the signal is when you're in motion.

Nope. I don't get it in my area anyway.
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Ha ha ha. Not where I come from. I'm in Iowa. We won't be getting 4G for a while.

easy way to see whats it's like...turn off your 4G radio for 5 days and see how it feels. then imagine that the UI itself is a bit smoother with more customization options. you now have an idea of CM6. course, we are expecting 4G in the sooner rather than later time frame.
i live in a 4G area and have lived without 4G for months. I look forward to having it but since i don't tether or stream movies its not a big deal. i miss the 'copy/paste' everywhere more than i miss the 4G radio.
a nandroid backup
a titanium backup
do a full wipe
enjoy

i ran CM nightlies for a few months, i have no 4g though.
i do have WiFi at home, at work I get a crappy connection to anything, if 3g is pulling down @ 300kbps i'm happy with that...tried Verizon PRL but it bumped ping up to 300ms instead but got 1.4mbps down. Stuck with Sprints 160ms ping though.
Probably flash the 12-17 nightly though, running the stock rooted sprint rom now, tired of how sluggish it feels.

who came from the evo

so i was wondering how many of you guys came from the evo 4g, and what you guys like over the evo other than the amoled screen of coarse that is a no brainer, how the battery life been treating you so far i record it to be about the same 6 to 7 hours wish i could get more i might be upgrading to a bigger battery soon.

i'm actually wondering about switching in the other direction.
i know at least on paper, epic is a better device.
but it seems like evo owners are having more fun with their devs.
no knock on our devs... (thank you to all)
i know that they are working hard.
i was thinking about picking up an evo on ebay/craigslist... and playing around with it. any one on the fence?

Nope. Lack of a download mode kills it for me. I've already bricked my phone once with a bad flash. Thanks to a download mode, I was able to recover with ease using Odin. I don't think I would ever use a phone without one now, provided there was an option to get one with one.
That and the news on HTC phone logs that are easily viewable by others is a little shady. Shame on HTC!

I agree with the development very high seriously about 40 flashable roms downsise I hate sense love the g.b based rom cynogen etc... how ever I have noticed the super quick os versious evo just feels smoother even at 1 ghz plus evo highest o.c is 1.2 and I have seen 1.6 so I am happy with the change just need to figure out how to get better batt life cause it sux but again so does the evo
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Came from EVO 4G. Missing nandroid and the plethora of ROMs that were available for that device. The only reason I chose the Epic Touch over the 3D was for the extra memory. The screen is nice on this device but the resolution lacks behind the competition and I don't really care for the oversaturated look. Looks like both phones are "obsolete" anyway as we never got 4G in Detroit and it looks like we never will. I was really tempted to get the Motorola since I do travel occasionally and it would have been nice to have GSM capability. The lack of a gyro on that bothered me though since I like playing with google sky. It was pretty erratic running on the EVO 4G without the gyro.
Anyway I'm looking forward to the experience.

[Q/Advice) upgrade from Evo 4g

Has anyone currently on the Galaxy S II previsouly came from using the Evo 4g? I am thinking about updating to this one, I have my upgrade but im pretty happy with the evo 4g and the development its recieved the past years..
But I wanted to get input if someone has switched from my phone to this and the pro's and con's..
I'd appreciate any input!

I came from the EVO 4G to the EVO 3D to the galaxy SII. Honestly I would go with the EVO 3D. I gave mine to my wife and think I will switch my phone back with her. Sense is just so far superior an interface it is enough to make me hate using my galaxy SII. If I could get sense on this phone it would be awesome.

Thanks for the reply, Sense is good, uses a lot of battery life. What launcher is most comonly used for galaxy s2??

I came from the EVO 4G and I have to say I love this phone. I thought I was a sense fiend but once I go this phone I like not having it. It just seems snappier without it. And once we get a full ICS rom I won't miss sense at all.

jbrawley1 said:
Thanks for the reply, Sense is good, uses a lot of battery life. What launcher is most comonly used for galaxy s2??
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You mean what launcher does it come with or what launcher do we prefer to install from the market? Touchwiz is a lot less intrusive than sense and i prefer ADW launcher but all other ones are great options. I still use my evo 3d since it has great development but this device is far more superior than both the evo/evo 3d that it really isn't a bad choice.
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If you like the big screen of the EVO 4g, then you'll love the screen of the ET4g. I had the evo3d, it seemed really small the radio is very weak. It was the only phone that has had no signal in side my house. I felt the build quality was sub par also with the evo3d also. Just my opinion.

Here is my 2 cents.
Pros...e4gt brighter screen, smoother operation (no lag), much easier I think to root and customize. Better battery life and much more pros I know I'm missing
Con...radio....the radio signal sucks compared to evo. If you are in an area that your evo gets 2 bars your lucky on the Samsung to get one or have signal at all....could be different for you in your area.
This has been a few of the items I have noticed about the 2 phones.
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I came from the Evo 4G and this phone by far out does the Evo. Speed...graphics power...screen...1080p video is 100% better..battery life too. It would be nice to be able to switch between Touchwiz and Android Gingerbread Stock layouf...but otherwise...its a no brianer.
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rabid platypus said:
I came from the EVO 4G to the EVO 3D to the galaxy SII. Honestly I would go with the EVO 3D. I gave mine to my wife and think I will switch my phone back with her. Sense is just so far superior an interface it is enough to make me hate using my galaxy SII. If I could get sense on this phone it would be awesome.
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I could not disagree with this post more.
I too came from a long history of HTC devices (most recently the Evo4G), and thought I would miss Sense. Nope. Not one bit. And I wouldn't touch an Evo3D with someone elses 10 ft pole.
Like mentioned in previous posts: Screen, batt life, CPU/GPU, camera!, massive amounts of internal storage, and yes, even touchwiz, make this a Far Superior phone.
And dev support is really picking up, new roms all the time.
do it.

kingdazy said:
I could not disagree with this post more.
I too came from a long history of HTC devices (most recently the Evo4G), and thought I would miss Sense. Nope. Not one bit. And I wouldn't touch an Evo3D with someone elses 10 ft pole.
Like mentioned in previous posts: Screen, batt life, CPU/GPU, camera!, massive amounts of internal storage, and yes, even touchwiz, make this a Far Superior phone.
And dev support is really picking up, new roms all the time.
do it.
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I might be in this forum soon too. Over the past couple of days my Evo's charging port has been totally screwed up and my battery went from charging perfectly well to not charging at all. Can't even boot it up now to unroot it so I figured I might use the upgrade subsidy I've been sitting on since June. I had really planned to wait for the Nexus or SGS3 this summer/fall but I may just say "screw it" and upgrade today. Then when fall rolls around and there is some new badass handset I want, I can decide if I want to sell the SGS2 and put the proceeds toward the new one.

Traded my evo after my original gave up the ghost charging.
Now with e4gt. Love it!
Only annoyences is that i cant take pics while talking on the phone and i cant play music while on the Phone either.
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Prene said:
Traded my evo after my original gave up the ghost charging.
Now with e4gt. Love it!
Only annoyences is that i cant take pics while talking on the phone and i cant play music while on the Phone either.
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FYI - I am on UnNamed and I can take pics and be on the phone. Quite simple as others have pointed out, this phone is clearly an upgrade from the Evo. I have them both and like others I thought it could not get any better than my Evo and I have been proven wrong. Also I just got the SGII for 48.88 at Sams club....

Ya i too came from an evo and let me tell ya this phone is soo much better in every way!! The evo's screen was horrible it was kinda laggy and battery life was just rediculous! This phone has an amazing screen you can crank the brightness all the way up and the battery is still gonna last you all day! This phone is a major win!! I have never had this phone lag out on me once and i have had it for months now. Even with all the apps open!
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I had EVO 4G (which was great) but must say Epic is awesome. Compare to Epic - EVO feels like a brick now.
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[q] evo 4g, is it good?

i've been wondering about evo 4g for a week.
I know its a CDMA phone. Is it good? :d can you tell me feedbacks regarding this phone. i wanna sell my Galaxy Y for an Evo 4g.
and how does this CDMA works? can you help me guys?
thanks, please help me decide
im really into this device.
thanks

the evo 4g, is the best phone I've had,I have had it since it came out and I'm not planning on changing it for at least one more year,I have decks 1.3 custom ROM, it gives me 15+ hours and I also like all the customization of the phone and I can tether my internet and all kinds of cool stuff. Is out of production and not getting any new official upgrades but the deva here are awesome. All I can truly say is I love my phone
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Even though there are newer phones out and no longer made, it's still considered one of the very best Android phones. Take into account current used prices and they are an incredible deal, even more-so when you consider the number and quality of roms and accessories available.

The evo is a great phone and its been fine for me, but personally I would get the evo 3d or design because you are able to get those for cheaper then I payed for my orginal evo and their stats are slightly better. and they will be getting the ICS update and i just feel as they run smoother, as my poor evo gets older I see her aging a lot and its really not in a good way with all sorts of issues poping up, so I think you are better of just getting one of the newer models, but HTC is certainly a great way to go!
i hope i helped if i did hit that thanks button please!

I wouldn't mind the 3D (disable the 3d), it supposedly has better battery life and it is a little better, but you can get an Evo 4g for about half the cost.
If I was buying again, yes, I would consider the 3D more. At the moment, the 3D (and maybe the Design) is the only phone I would consider replacing my 4g with. Everything else has too many compromises or costs too much. Since I just bought my 4g though, I'm in no hurry to replace it.

THANKS for the replies! i would get it the next Week thanks and looking forward to you guys!! im very excited to have those EVO on my hands ==" darn

I just bought one
I just got one i love it so far I got it on ebay .. Pre set for boost I dont know what carrier ur on or wish to be on

its quite good,
lots of alternative ROM, lots of friendly DEV's here,
and EVO can do almost everything we ask for (for a smartphone)

Before i had my EVO i had an HTC HERO. the day the EVO came out i got rid of my hero and strigt up bought my evo with no upgrade and iv been loving it. no other phone beats this. yeah the phone is old and its DEADED by sprint and HTC, but honestly the only other phone id even consider getting is the EVO 3d or nexus when it comes out.
but overall i never have problems with this phone and i love it. in my opinion i think its the most supported phone on XDA with SO MANY roms and cool mods.

I'd wait for the galaxy note
I have the evo 4g and it was great when i got it new but its starting to show its age. If you are buying it used thats fine but if its with a new contract i'd wait a few months. Sprint is supposedly getting the GAlaxy Note which is much better. one bad thing about the evo 4g is the screen is not too good in sunlight, which can be a problem with turn by turn in the car. Samsung uses superAMOLED displays so its less of an issue. battery life is an issue esp if you overclock, i'd check out amazon for batteries. I just got a Seidio 1750 for $8. much better then stock battery

i got 2 weeks with my evo and everything is going good.... im just waiting for a fully working ics ROM and everything its gonna be perfect.
*probably in a few days

I've had my EVO 4g for 2.5 years now (well broke it twice, thank god for insurance) and I've no need or want for a new phone. I work 8 hours a day, and play pandora on my phone with wifi of course non-stop for the whole day (without charge) and am left with 50% battery when i get off! It's amazing. But of course i use Mazwoz ICS 3.5Beta, Tiatmat 4.1.0sbc Kernel, and a 3500mah battery. But still! Its an awesome phone, tons of dev support. It's fun to put it up against my friends iphone 4s's with speed test and blow them away!
Good luck with your evo 4g man! And check out mazwoz's ICS rom!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1481091

Few Questions for S3 owners

Currently looking at the S3 or the EVO right now to change up from my S2 (it's starting to mess up hardware wise) While I love my S2 there were always issues with Samsung radios and being for lack of a better word piss poor signal wise. Just kinda looking for some info oh what you guys think about your S3's and radio signal as well as hardware vs the EVO 4G LTE. I can read reviews all day long but looking for some real word use from actual owners who have been using the phone for a few.
anything helpful would be great I posted this same question over in the EVO forums just looking for some real world use from people. As I said above Samsungs radios have (to me atleast) been piss poor and every HTC I've seen have been better and since I have not LTE currently within the Seattle area I'm not concerned with that part of it cause I don't see Seattle getting it untill sometime next year.

cidica said:
Currently looking at the S3 or the EVO right now to change up from my S2 (it's starting to mess up hardware wise) While I love my S2 there were always issues with Samsung radios and being for lack of a better word piss poor signal wise. Just kinda looking for some info oh what you guys think about your S3's and radio signal as well as hardware vs the EVO 4G LTE. I can read reviews all day long but looking for some real word use from actual owners who have been using the phone for a few.
anything helpful would be great I posted this same question over in the EVO forums just looking for some real world use from people. As I said above Samsungs radios have (to me atleast) been piss poor and every HTC I've seen have been better and since I have not LTE currently within the Seattle area I'm not concerned with that part of it cause I don't see Seattle getting it untill sometime next year.
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I've heard that the EVO does not have a strong radio but do not have first hand knowledge of this. I can say that the S3 has a lot better radio than the S2. If it didn't I would be using an EVO right now cause the radio on the S2 stinks, especially compared to my old Photon. Speaking of the Motorola Photon, if you are not familiar with Moto devices they typically have some of the best signal strength of any phone. So if I can go from that to the S3 without any issues at all with signal strength than it is pretty decent. May not be as strong, but good enough. Have not had a dropped call yet. BTW...running rooted stock so running a custom rom/kernel might change that.

cidica said:
Currently looking at the S3 or the EVO right now to change up from my S2 (it's starting to mess up hardware wise) While I love my S2 there were always issues with Samsung radios and being for lack of a better word piss poor signal wise. Just kinda looking for some info oh what you guys think about your S3's and radio signal as well as hardware vs the EVO 4G LTE. I can read reviews all day long but looking for some real word use from actual owners who have been using the phone for a few.
anything helpful would be great I posted this same question over in the EVO forums just looking for some real world use from people. As I said above Samsungs radios have (to me atleast) been piss poor and every HTC I've seen have been better and since I have not LTE currently within the Seattle area I'm not concerned with that part of it cause I don't see Seattle getting it untill sometime next year.
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Well looks like ill be the second commenter to post on regards to ure question.
I cant say on regards for u to choose or which phone is better for u, but in my opinion, from all the battles between the Iphone 5, Evo LTE and SGS3 i had a big choice between does 2, after re-searching looking at specs and performance wize, i came to a conclusion that for me the galaxy s3 was right for me, why? well simply because of the ability to multi-task with ease and almost no constant lag at all. Now both phones throtle alot and i mean alot (It means for ure phone to conserve battery life and prevent it from getting too hot by slowing down the processor speed to a minimum when not in use) ive found the galaxy s3 to be much faster in performance and thansk to the 2 gigs of ram it has its able smooth things out even when its throtling. the HTC althought a very good phone it does tent to spike out and lag most of the time.
My other concern was battery life, and durability, now the HTC being more durable and able to take a better beating then the galaxy s3 and it has a better built u cant change the battery so ure stuck just like the iphone 5 users relying on a charger or getting a expansion pack for ure phone. that was a downside, i would preffer to change my battery and be able to run another 7 to 8 hours on 1 single battery then have it die and not be close to a charger and replace the batery. Since i rooted my phone and added a custom rom, ive average battery life of around 10 to 16 hours depending on what im doing per battery use. HTC has good colors and a better camera then the GS3 but overall not enought color compare to the beautiful colorful screen that the Galaxy s3 brings to u, so vivid and bright..
Touchwis compare to sence, both being good softwares, and coming from a sence phone, i never really like it because u couldnt customize it as much as u can with touchwis, so i decided to stick with touchwis and got my first touchwis phone the epic 4g loved it ever since and im loving my new SGS3 which is much more smoother and better. Hope that helps