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I really love this phone but I think I want something larger. I know I'm taking a step back in some regards but with the talent here at XDA I'm sure there'll be a super build for the Note shortly.
I am not making a statement in one phone vs. another, I simply have larger hands and find a bigger phone more comfortable.
Anyone in the Philly area looking for the GSM version let me know.
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I've also been thinking about this.. The note just seems badass. I do love my nexus though.
Lol I am doing the opposite. Have an international Note I got in December that I'm about to sell. Ordered a GSM Galaxy Nexus from Expansys USA that will be here tomorrow.
PM me if you are interested in the Note. Its absolutely mint with $80 worth of cases (2) and has a SGP protector installed.
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Damn. How big are your hands? Don't hear much "the nexus is just too small! " lol.
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I definitely agree with the OP. As soon as it comes to Verizon, I am abandoning the GNex. Over at the Consumer Electronics Show, I held the GNex and the Note together and honestly I am much more impressed with the build quality and the size of the Note. Definitely worth the upgrade in my opinion, especially when it gets a nice CM9 port up and running.
Im buying the note and keeping my Gnex!
It's still the only device with ics on it and it's from google... That means no tw ( touch wiz) or carrier crapware...
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As a fellow huge hand guy here, I think the note is just TO big to be a phone, at that size you are getting into like mini tablet there. I personally think that the nexus is the ideal size for me.
I wonder how can you put the Galaxy Note into your pocket. My pocket is even small for my GNex. Just saying.
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I wonder how can you put the Galaxy Note into your pocket. My pocket is even small for my GNex. Just saying.
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Easy... take off your tight spandex and get some x-large jeans.. ya know, the waist-almost-on-your-knees, wannabe gangsta type. Lots of space there.
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I wonder how can you put the Galaxy Note into your pocket. My pocket is even small for my GNex. Just saying.
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Well, I've previously owned a GSM GNEX and sold it for a Note. Now I'm selling the Note and bought another GNEX.
The Note is 100% pocketable. People who say otherwise have never owned one. It's so thin and fits in any pocket I've ever tried. I am returning to the GNEX because I already have an Android tablet and want to toggle between ATT and TMO SIMs. I'm growing tired of ATT snapping the whip with unlimited data users (me) who use around 2 gigs. I have the 30 Tmo unlimited plan and will fall back on that with the eventual goal of dropping ATT altogether in June when my contract is up. Then I'll be a free agent and can pick from any carrier I want in the future.
That said, back on topic, the Note is a fantastic device and I've loved owning it...I just don't need it when I have an Android tablet (plus it only works on ATT).
I much rather keep the nexus because its the same screen resolution as the note but smaller and perfect size which gives higher pixel density and crispness.
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I much rather keep the nexus because its the same screen resolution as the note but smaller and perfect size which gives higher pixel density and crispness.
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actually the note is 1280x800 which is a tad bigger than the Nexus 1280x720 resolution, but because the Note has such a big screen, the pixel density is technically lower at around ~285 ppi
i have yet to hold a note in person, but from what i've read online the crispness/sharpness is almost identical to the nexus in terms of screen quality
i'll just keep my nexus until the galaxy S3 haha
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actually the note is 1280x800 which is a tad bigger than the Nexus 1280x720 resolution, but because the Note has such a big screen, the pixel density is technically lower at around ~285 ppi
i have yet to hold a note in person, but from what i've read online the crispness/sharpness is almost identical to the nexus in terms of screen quality
i'll just keep my nexus until the galaxy S3 haha
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Yep, it's a smidge higher. The Note's screen is pretty much amazing, so zero complaints there. It works well on the large screen...I actually found myself reaching for the Note more often than my tablet or laptop. It's a joy to use, but overkill for my needs (have too many gadgets - the GNEX is a good middle-ground).
Specs are S3 for all LTE Note variants.
And you guys complain about the SGX540 with an HD screen...the Note is even higher resolution.
I would be using a damn note if it had a pentaband radio like the Nexus
The two phone's screen size isn't even comparable. Nexus is basically a 4.3", Note is a whole inch bigger.
But the Nexus' body is really big for it's screen size, it's got a massive bezel. Comparing it side to side with the 4.5" galaxy S II, the nexus is huge - even though it has a smaller effective screen.
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Specs are S3 for all LTE Note variants.
And you guys complain about the SGX540 with an HD screen...the Note is even higher resolution.
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Yeah, if I was getting a Galaxy Note, and I was tempted. I'd get the International version with the Exynos and Mali 400.
Unfortunately no Android 4.0 (yet) and T-Mobile support are why I went with the Galaxy Nexus though (which it had an Exynos).
its a great phone until you plug headphones into it. Don't know how Samsung got conned by Yamaha into purchasing the last of the megadrive sound chips...
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Never seen the note in person but I am assuming it is to big to wear on a belt?
I'm sorry but if you can get the Note in your pocket then you're wearing baggy ass trousers! Any professional with a decent suit would struggle to get the Note in their pocket, my Nexus barely fits in my trousers as it is!
personally I like nexus
So far last year I went from GS2 -> G Note -> G Nexus and my view is on my first month on G Note, I was liking it and it was badasssss. It uses Wacom technology and has pressure sensitive touch with S-pen and you can do exciting thing with it.
Most of my time I spend on internet so it was perfect but when I had a look at the nexus it just felt so compact I wanted to go back to compact phone.
Both phones have ups and downs but I think nexus offers more if you move around alot being compact.
I hear G Note 10.1 will be out in March so may have a look at that for internet then GS3 in april.
It's funny to me, when I first took my Galaxy Nexus out of the box when I first bought it, I thought that was a large phone (though I didn't think it was too large). Well once I took the Galaxy Note out the box, I no longer consider my GNex to be large. The screen of the Note is almost the size of the whole GNex. Depending on how you look at it, that's a good thing or a bad thing. All in all, after playing with both of them side by side for a while, I've come to the conclusion that the GNex is better due to it being faster in essential things like browsing and GPS. I just wish the GNex got as loud as the Note does.
Here's a link to my brief comparison:
http://thesmartphonechamp.com/smartphone-heavyweight-bout-galaxy-nexus-vs-att-galaxy-note/
I also have both and like both! I love the Gnex because of ics , 0 crapware installed pure google experience.
But i love the note because of the big screen, long battery life, and lte. The screen of the gnex looks a little better because it's smaller. The gnex might be better for you and the note might be good for someone else... It's all about taste!
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I also have both and like both! I love the Gnex because of ics , 0 crapware installed pure google experience.
But i love the note because of the big screen, long battery life, and lte. The screen of the gnex looks a little better because it's smaller. The gnex might be better for you and the note might be good for someone else... It's all about taste!
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You're right, it's definitely all about taste. I think the Galaxy Note is an awesome device. That screen is tremendous, but for me it is a little bit too big. I value one-handed operation, and I don't really think the Note is very well suited for one-handed operation. For a person that doesn't mind two-handed operation I think it's a fantastic device. For example, my uncle is geeked about that phone and intends to buy it. I took it over his house yesterday so he could see it and now he's in love with it lol. He likes two-handed operation, so yep it's like you said, it's a matter of preference. Just wish they had toned it down with all the bloatware (the phone has a massive amount of bloat). Also, the Gnex shines with ICS and the optimizations really show up in the browser, as it blows the Note away in browsing speed. It really isn't close. I'm curious to see how much improvement the Note's browser speed will see once it gets ICS. I just hate how they will "uglify" ICS with Touchwiz on the Note.
The international note is faster than the Gnex due to the Mali 400 GPU but on the AT&T version it has an adreno GPU which is probably the worst GPU series of all major ARM processor families
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Faster is relative to what function you are speaking.
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The international note is faster than the Gnex due to the Mali 400 GPU but on the AT&T version it has an adreno GPU which is probably the worst GPU series of all major ARM processor families
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I think too much is made about GPU's. None of the GPU's are incapable and run software and games just fine. They only matter in benchmarks...which really don't mean anything at all besides message board bragging rights. I think if there is fault to be found in the AT&T Galaxy Note's hardware it would be the processor. They went with the S3 Snapdragon which definitely isn't in the upper tier of dual core processors. The S3 has less than half the memory bandwidth of the OMAP 4460, A5, and Exynos 4210. Then don't forget it isn't even an A9 chip either. BTW the OMAP4 thus far (the S3 has already been counted out) is the only current gen chip that will be compatible with the upcoming wifi display feature that will be added in an update later this year. Heck the Tegra 3 isn't even compatible.
I'm curious how the battery life compares between a Nexus with the 2100mah battery and a Note with the 2500mah battery.
I wouldn't even look at a SGS3 if the Note had stock ICS and NFC. Otherwise it's worthless with TW barfed on it. The Note is a fantastic mobile otherwise. I do miss the notification light though.
(I'm talking about the international version. That 4 button abomination just released doesn't count.)
(I know I can flash it to whatever I want. I want stock ICS OOTB.)
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I wouldn't even look at a SGS3 if the Note had stock ICS and NFC. Otherwise it's worthless with TW barfed on it. The Note is a fantastic mobile otherwise. I do miss the notification light though.
(I'm talking about the international version. That 4 button abomination just released doesn't count.)
(I know I can flash it to whatever I want. I want stock ICS OOTB.)
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I agree with you that Touchwiz is definitely not the greatest. I've seen the leaked ICS Rom and you can barely tell the difference between it and Gingerbread visually. As for the US version of the Note, I think it looks much better than the international version with its giant ugly PHYSICAL home button. Besides, that one home button is a little too iphone-ish for me.
I have yet to play with note but I have a feeling I will trade this guy for a white note.
It looks super nice and eventually they should have cm9 and that's close enough to aosp for me.
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"Eventually."
Let us not forget it is LTE. That ALWAYS makes for a fun time with new devices to aosp.
"Eventually" may be by the time of EOL of the LTE Note
True true... I wonder how many people left this device for it and are happy
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Well I just played with the Note at an ATT store last night, it was beautiful.
The case didn't feel as premium as nexus, but ahmigawd the screen!
I originally wanted a Note but it didn't support T-mo properly so didn't import it. No way in hell I'd get it for ATT or VZ (both can diaf).
However I don't feel you can really compare the Nexus to a Note, it's in its own category, the size will basically polarize people. The interesting thing about the Note is that, pretty much the only complaint about it is that it's "too big", reviewers list that as a con - which imo is just dumb, considering it was intended to be a big phone.
I'm going to hold out for the Note II
Is the note 2 for sure happening?
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Is the note 2 for sure happening?
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We should know in a couple days, I would assume.
Had the Note (international) now have the GNEX. Don't fall for the Note. It's neat, but it's still a Touchwiz-y typical device. AOSP forever. I'm done with non Nexus devices. It's just not worth the agony of always feeling left behind on the software/functionality front.
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I wouldn't even look at a SGS3 if the Note had stock ICS and NFC. Otherwise it's worthless with TW barfed on it. The Note is a fantastic mobile otherwise. I do miss the notification light though.
(I'm talking about the international version. That 4 button abomination just released doesn't count.)
(I know I can flash it to whatever I want. I want stock ICS OOTB.)
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Wow at&t really went hard on disabling features. First i ear that you can't disable lte, and now you're saying nfc is also disabled?
I have a bell version unlocked here in Canada and non of these feature are disabled.
They are terrible!!
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Is the note 2 for sure happening?
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of course there's nothing absolute.
But Note was a success, except that the release is akin to the disaster that was GSII.
There's no reason samsung won't make another Note.
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I have yet to play with note but I have a feeling I will trade this guy for a white note.
It looks super nice and eventually they should have cm9 and that's close enough to aosp for me.
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You'll like the note. I loved mine. The 5.3 inch is huge at first, but warms up to you real quick. I just traded my international note for a gnex. But it wasn't because I was dissatisfied with the device, I just needed a phone that I can wear in a holster for work. Besides, no matter how much I like a device, I can't hang on to just one, I have to try em all . I haven't received my gnex yet, but lord knows how long I'm gonna be able to hang onto it once I get it.
I just played with the att note, brand new just arrived today. Its bigger than i thought! One thing i noticed is that thing is laggggy compared to my nexus. I did side by side comparisons in many major apps and the nexus spanked it in every instance. Lists just had low frame rates and stuttered a bit. But the nexus was silky smooth for example both scrolling the same search in the market, or youtube or a webpage. Must be due to lack of exynos? Thank goodness i love my nexus.
I have gone through nine rezouds and probably thus have ample leverage for a different phone. I'm honestly fed up with it at this point. (No none of them were fraud they were legitimately flawed) anyway since you all own one of the devices I figured you could help me make an informed decision. Don't be too biased lol.
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if you have the ability to take one or the other, I'd definitely pick the S3.. I played around with a store model for 20 minutes and already loved it so much that I signed a new contract on the spot (my old one with the nexus was near the end of it's life so it was free for me to change). Honestly the S3 is so quick it's not funny and the camera is absolutely amazing.
You come to the Nexus forum to ask which phone you should get?
ha, you've already made your decision.
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You come to the Nexus forum to ask which phone you should get?
ha, you've already made your decision.
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Not necessarily. I figured I would ask one group who ones one of the phones their opinion. Since the S3 hasn't been released in the US yet I figured I would ask you all. I doubt I can really make a bad decision here.
So im guessing for Verizon? If so i would go with the S3 its newer its a bit bigger and the camera is a phenomenal. You can't go wrong with either but with the nexus you get software superiority but with the S3 you get the hardware superiority.
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with the nexus you get software superiority but with the S3 you get the hardware superiority.
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What's the use of the hardware superiority when there is no good software to run it
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What's the use of the hardware superiority when there is no good software to run it
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Eh the S3 software isn't bad coming from an OG epic I didn't like old touchwiz. But the new TW is quite appealing although waiting for Jelly Bean would keep me away from it as I pay so much for it I expect it to run the latest version of android. But development for it should be sufficient.
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Which SIII: North American (dual-core) or International (quad-core)? Sick hardware either way... and throw Apex Launcher on if you hate TouchWiz and don't want to root; it rocks on my girlfriend's SII, so I can only imagine on the SIII. I honestly prefer the way my Nexus looks and the stock experience though.
Honestly the S3 does not blow me away like it does for others. I think most of the hype about it is the same as any new phone from month to month. I think the S3 has some great qualities unique to itself as does the Nexus. However, most features can be duplicated with equal performance on the Nexus. Its like going to college. I could have learned the same things for about $20 in late fees at the library. But I would not be able to brag that I have a degree. So if you want the latest and greatest (for the moment) go for the S3. If you prefer a Nexus experience then get a Nexus. Either way you cant go wrong in my opinion.
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What did you do to them?
For the same price, I'd say SGS3. The only reason I wouldn't get a SGS3 is because there's not a vast improvement that is worth getting a new phone. But if I had say, a One S, I'd choose the SGS3, the one with the dual A15s instead of 4 A9s.
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I was very skeptical which was why I went for the Note first, but the Nexus is really the best smartphone I've ever used. If you care about customization then this is the device to go with, but if you don't mind using the interface that manufacturer/carriers give you, then go with the SIII. I just love how open the Nexus is, so easy to root and customize. If you have not use lots of custom roms before, this device seems very bare and light, but that is the advantage.
I bought the Nexus immediately after the SIII was announced because I didn't felt it was a major upgrade and the Nexus was going for $300 less. The most intensive thing I'll be doing is watch HD 1080p and the Nexus does it smoother than the Note. I feel buying the SIII would be a step backward to the freedom the Nexus provided. It's not pentaband, so I would have to wait for T-Mobile version to use their 3G. My family uses ATT so I can always hand the Nexus to them and not have to worry about 3G compatibilities. Though I heard T-Mobile SIII will support ATT 3G bands. In addition, the American version will be using proprietary Qualcomm CPU and GPU, I would have to wait longer for CM9 and AOKP roms and who knows if the development will be good as international version, which Samsung already released the source code for.
There is a major flaw with Nexus which is lacking microSD slot. Also the SIII use the same Sony camera sensor as iPhone 4S so it will take better photos and have fast shutter like the Nexus.
I'm keeping my eyes on the SIII, but I want to wait till there are lots of stable roms for the T-Mobile version and if the price go down enough by end of year holidays. Right now I rather wait for the next Nexus phone. It seems like a good phone, but isn't ground breaking like the SII was, especially in term of durability like some youtube drop test has shown.
Go Nexus or wait.
Pocketnow.com has a great overview of the GSIII that points out some niggles with how Samsung changed ICS over what you get on the Nexus. Button and menu placement. Terrible keyboard and how the phone is very slippery in hand.
I have a Nexus and Razor Maxx and would not trade either for the SIII.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1642801
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^^^^^^^^^^^
I've been debating with myself which phone to get - I'm pretty sure I'm not the only person in this boat so I made this thread.
My situation:
Nexus IV: $360 here in Canada
Note II: $400 here in Canada, although with a 3 year commitment ($40 a month for unlimited nationwide calling, unlimited data, although they throttle after 5gb, and unlimited nationwide text).
I'd use the same data plan if I got the Nexus, although on the plus side, I have no contract. Not too sure how big of a plus that is, as I don't want to swap from Wind Mobile.
Strongly leaning in favor of the Note II right now.
Nexus IV Advantages: Overall this phone is very similar to the Optimus G; not unlike the Nexus S and the i9000s.
- The SOC appears to be faster
- No Touchwiz (IMO Stock > anything the manufacturers come up with)
I personally do not care about the Wireless "charging orb" and think it's a gimmick; of limited use in the real world where one can simply connect a micro-USB.
Perhaps the biggest advantage the Nexus IV has is well ... a Nexus phone. That means that the development community around it will be much bigger, faster updates, and a 100% chance of Cyanogenmod. I'm not sure what's the Cyanogenmod prospects on the T889, but there is a beta one working for the N7100 and considering how similar this phone is to the international version. I don't know how big the development community for the T889 is going to be.
Note II Advantages: More or less a blown up Galaxy S3.
- Audio quality appears superior (Wolfson DAC); important to me; I keep a rooted voodoo Galaxy S variant just for the audio as a PMP; I am unsure at this time of what DAC the Nexus IV comes with, but having listened to the Galaxy S3 and the Optimus G
- Speaker appears to be superior (not a big deal IMO)
- Bigger screen (good for browsing and movies)
- S Pen (and everything that comes with it; probably the only custom thing that any manufacturer has done that has added value; well maybe Sense before Froyo added value to Android)
- Expandable storage (Nexus IV probably not enough to import a serious FLAC collection)
- Battery life (based on reviews, it looks like the Note II has a better battery life)
I would discourage people from using a "points" system to evaluate the 2 phones.
Areas for debate:
- Size .... I personally prefer a larger phone, up to debate though
- Screen; well it comes down to IPS vs Amoled. Both have outstanding viewing angles, and the Amoled isn't pentile (although not the traditional RGB either it seems). Amoled has deeper blacks, but the white reproduction isn't the greatest. IPS has better brightness and is better out in sunlight.
- Neither the Nexus IV nor the Note II can claim to have a better camera for taking images
- I'm not sure how well these phones will last over time - the glass back on the Nexus might be an area for concern; the Note II seems to do well in the drop tests though
- Pentaband phone (the T889 is pentaband as is the Nexus); not planning on making any international trips, but this would come in handy if it did
LG also seems to have a bad reputation; not too sure as I personally have never owned LG phones for an extended period, but my Samsung experiences have been positive.
Your thoughts?
How much faster is the processor known to be on the Nexus 4?
I considered both, but definitely do not regret having gotten the Note II because I really care about the larger screen (the main reason I upgraded from a GS3, though I really wanted the quad-core exynos)
Also, there's a big difference in retail price, which is going to be a major factor in the comparison.
Nexus 4 is crap! Don't buy it or u will regret it!!!!!!
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How much faster is the processor known to be on the Nexus 4?
I considered both, but definitely do not regret having gotten the Note II because I really care about the larger screen (the main reason I upgraded from a GS3, though I really wanted the quad-core exynos)
Also, there's a big difference in retail price, which is going to be a major factor in the comparison.
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In my case, price is very close, but yeah the screen is a big attractor.
honestly i don't think you can compare these 2. galaxy s3 versus nexus 4 is more of a fair comparison. Either you want the big screen or you don't, really what it comes down to. The pen is nice too although I seriously doubt how much i'll use it. I believe samsung cameras are superior as well. and i'm sure its gotten better, but frankly stock android sucked to me when i tried it on froyo and gingerbread.
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You're comparing Apples and ****ing IEDs; Note is HUGE, wicked fast, polished up with TouchWiz and has the surprisingly useful S-Pen. Nexus devices are wonderful, and I've owned every single one except the two just announced... But you can pry the Note II from my cold dead hands because it is hands down, the greatest device on Earth today.
Ya, I gotta agree, you are comparing two totally different products. While saying your movie collection will help you get over the fact that you will be stuck with 8 or 16 gb worth of space, over time, you will kick yourself for being stuck with 8 or 16 gb worth of space. 64gb microSD cards should be enough for you to stop making silly statements referencing your FLAC collection; it's a no brainer.
The S-Pen should be at the top of your list for a device that's centered around productivity. If you just want to watch movies, buy a tablet.
Long story short, CM10 and the rest of the ROMs are needed on devices... the Note 2 doesn't need them. Oh, and you forgot to compare battery sizes... probably something more important than any rom or even the microSD card slot. On the Note 2, it's glorious!
IMHO i need the sd slot by getting that phone i would have to revert back to ousting my iPod for music amongst the other things I've got on it.. can't do it... sides love the s pen.. this phone is awesome
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I would personally never buy the nexus 4 simply because it is made by LG and Samsung is far superior when it comes to smart phones. I upgraded my SGS3 to the Note 2 for the larger screen and the extras like the s-pen. Only thing that sucks right now is there are very few accessories for the Note at the moment but Seidio and Otterbox are in the works.
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You're comparing Apples and ****ing IEDs; Note is HUGE, wicked fast, polished up with TouchWiz and has the surprisingly useful S-Pen. Nexus devices are wonderful, and I've owned every single one except the two just announced... But you can pry the Note II from my cold dead hands because it is hands down, the greatest device on Earth today.
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You are exactly right.. I honestly don't see how i can honestly go to soothe device after I've had the note 2 i had a guy at work offer me 300 bucks and his white s3 I was like no!! Put the s3 on Craig'slist and get your own...the next phone i buy wool obviously be a note 3... What can i say I'm hooked...
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I have to agree. The t889 is the way to go. I look at the nexus4 and it is very similar to my t989 with a updated soc and very slightly different size screen. Along with the whole stock android thing. I didn't really feel the need to upgrade to the s3 from my s2 especially since I don't like hardware home buttons. But the note 2 has got me desperately wanting out of my contract so that I can get it. Bigger better screen, s pen, removable battery and sdcard slot. And I don't know about the statement that the qualcomm Soc is better then the exynos they are probably very very close but I'd take the Mali gpu over the adreno any day of the week. If you really want a nexus device just get a 199$ nexus 7. It seems like a better deal then the nexus 4. But you probably wouldn't even use the 7 incher if you had the t889.
I'm not sure what sort of crap people are talking on here and saying the Nexus 4 is crap, but that's an absolutely ridiculous statement. The SoC on the Nexus 4 is definitely faster than the Note II, but honestly Need for Speed Most Wanted is the only thing that doesn't run perfectly on the Note II (and even then we're talking a handful of frame drops that make no difference to gameplay). Most games aren't even close to being as taxing as NFS MW, so I wouldn't even worry about that. Games that usually slow phones down like Plight of the Zombie, and livewallpapers that do the same don't slow down the Note II at all. Everything runs perfectly on the phone.
As for features, it's really TouchWiz vs. stock Android. As nice as Android 4.2 is, the features in TouchWiz are unmatched, even though it can be extremely ugly. What's really nice about the Note II though is that there are already a lot of theming kitchens available, like this one, that make TouchWiz just a little less ugly by letting you customize icons and colors in the interface. Honestly after having the S-Pen features on the Note II, I'm not sure I could go back to any phone that doesn't have such features. It's one of the reasons I'll probably never run an AOSP based ROM on this phone. Of course AOSP has S-Pen gestures now, so there's no telling what the wizards here at XDA will do over time, but for now I bought the Note II for the S-Pen features primarily, and that keeps me from jumping ship from Samsung's stuff.
It's up to you. I'm getting my wife a Nexus 4 for Christmas because although she loves the Note II and the features, it's just a little too large for her. Plus I'd recommend a Nexus 4 over a Galaxy S III any day, but that's a whole 'nother thread. Get the Note II, you won't be sorry. It's by far the best phone I've EVER used.
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I have to agree. The t889 is the way to go. I look at the nexus4 and it is very similar to my t989 with a updated soc and very slightly different size screen. Along with the whole stock android thing. I didn't really feel the need to upgrade to the s3 from my s2 especially since I don't like hardware home buttons. But the note 2 has got me desperately wanting out of my contract so that I can get it. Bigger better screen, s pen, removable battery and sdcard slot. And I don't know about the statement that the qualcomm Soc is better then the exynos they are probably very very close but I'd take the Mali gpu over the adreno any day of the week. If you really want a nexus device just get a 199$ nexus 7. It seems like a better deal then the nexus 4. But you probably wouldn't even use the 7 incher if you had the t889.
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The Nexus 4 has a Snapdragon S4 Pro quad-core and an Adreno 320. It's in a league of its own honestly. The only thing that truly competes with it is the SoC in the iPhone 5. Burns me that that's the case, but facts are facts unfortunately.
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I'm not sure what sort of crap people are talking on here and saying the Nexus 4 is crap, but that's an absolutely ridiculous statement. The SoC on the Nexus 4 is definitely faster than the Note II, but honestly Need for Speed Most Wanted is the only thing that doesn't run perfectly on the Note II (and even then we're talking a handful of frame drops that make no difference to gameplay). Most games aren't even close to being as taxing as NFS MW, so I wouldn't even worry about that. Games that usually slow phones down like Plight of the Zombie, and livewallpapers that do the same don't slow down the Note II at all. Everything runs perfectly on the phone.
As for features, it's really TouchWiz vs. stock Android. As nice as Android 4.2 is, the features in TouchWiz are unmatched, even though it can be extremely ugly. What's really nice about the Note II though is that there are already a lot of theming kitchens available, like this one, that make TouchWiz just a little less ugly by letting you customize icons and colors in the interface. Honestly after having the S-Pen features on the Note II, I'm not sure I could go back to any phone that doesn't have such features. It's one of the reasons I'll probably never run an AOSP based ROM on this phone. Of course AOSP has S-Pen gestures now, so there's no telling what the wizards here at XDA will do over time, but for now I bought the Note II for the S-Pen features primarily, and that keeps me from jumping ship from Samsung's stuff.
It's up to you. I'm getting my wife a Nexus 4 for Christmas because although she loves the Note II and the features, it's just a little too large for her. Plus I'd recommend a Nexus 4 over a Galaxy S III any day, but that's a whole 'nother thread. Get the Note II, you won't be sorry. It's by far the best phone I've EVER used.
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The Nexus 4 has a Snapdragon S4 Pro quad-core and an Adreno 320. It's in a league of its own honestly. The only thing that truly competes with it is the SoC in the iPhone 5. Burns me that that's the case, but facts are facts unfortunately.
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Imagine a note 2 with a s4 pro
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I think these devices have really different use cases.
One major draw back for me about the nexus 4 is the battery and SD card. I've owned every nexus devicedevice and while they are amazing devices, there always seems to be some (major)drawback.
This could be said about any phone.
For the note2, the Major drawback is the size, something that I'm OK with. Which is whyi won't be switching to the n4.
brashmadcap said:
You're comparing Apples and ****ing IEDs
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mdt73 said:
Ya, I gotta agree, you are comparing two totally different products.
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I agree they're pretty different, but definitely not comparing apples and oranges (or IEDs). ..mainly because (for most), it's one or the other. They're going to serve the same purpose, even if in different ways.
I've been going crazy, back and forth btwn the two. I told myself I'd never get a non-nexus device again, but leaning more towards the NoteII now. The most important aspect for me now is the developer support. ParanoidAndroid has ruined my crackflashing escapades. I've never been on a ROM so long, and everything else seems weird now.
I hope PA comes soon. Aside from that, I worry about the N4's lack of storage/expandable storage which has seriously been a PITA on my Gnex. That BS from Duarte or another Googler about users not needing expandable memory is bs. And the cloud storage argument is ridiculous. Files commonly accessed get cached on the device anyway and take up space. (preaching to the choir). I'm less concerned about the LTE futureproofing, but it's definitely an issue as well.
dannydv said:
Nexus 4 is crap! Don't buy it or u will regret it!!!!!!
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The nexus 4 isnt going to be crap. There are many negative points for me regarding the nexus 4 versus the note 2 but it will not be a bad phone.
On another note. I haven't done any reading or researching on the matter, is the snapdragon really THAT much faster than the exynos? I didnt know such a disparity existed.
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I got the Note II because it has much better battery life than the new Nexus. My last phone was the Galaxy Nexus, a great phone, but I was always carrying an external battery with me or charging it in the wall. Compared to the galaxy nexus (and probably the nexus 4 and most androids out there), my experience so far with the Note II is that the battery life is about twice as good. With the Note II I can leave the bluetooth on, gps on, screen bright, and it's all okay for the day. It also charges super fast at 2amp. It took me longer to charge my Galaxy Nexus even though the battery was much smaller.
Wifi calling, removable battery, larger screen, SD card are nice as well. It seems Google doesn't update their OS that often anymore anyways. I had the Galaxy Nexus for a year and only had very few updates that barely improved anything (where as my Nexus S and Nexus One seemed to have had more significant updates.)
The charging is pretty cool on the note 2. Ive never had a phone with such a huge battery that can chsrge so fast
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Funny thing is when I had my S2 all I heard is how crappy the snapdragon was and how great he Exynos was, now that the nexus has one all of a sudden its the best. Smh
tigerz0202 said:
Funny thing is when I had my S2 all I heard is how crappy the snapdragon was and how great he Exynos was, now that the nexus has one all of a sudden its the best. Smh
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This exactly.
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Have the GS3. I love it. Best phone I've ever had. I'm getting the itch though. I was seriously considering N4. Reviews dont seem to be as positive as I hoped, particularly from those coming from GS3. Which made me look at the Note 2. I love that phone. But is it too big? I don't think it is but I also have the N7, so do I even need the bigger screen? I rarely use my GS3 for anything other than phone calls and texts. Am I wasting my money? I'm thinking I am...but not sure. Anyone else considering either of these phones?
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IMO it's either the s3 or note2. The nexus only has 16 gb of storage with no chance of increasing, has a fragile back that will crack if dropped, and is made by lg which hasn't made many great phones. The camera is only average and also has a halo haze and its not that much faster in real world tests. As for the note, only you can decide if its too big, other than that its actually a little better than the s3.
I've pretty much ruled out the N4 at this point. I'm going to check out the Note 2 tomorrow. If I get the note would that replace my N7? Enough to give me an excuse for getting N10??
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kingston73 said:
IMO it's either the s3 or note2. The nexus only has 16 gb of storage with no chance of increasing, has a fragile back that will crack if dropped, and is made by lg which hasn't made many great phones. The camera is only average and also has a halo haze and its not that much faster in real world tests. As for the note, only you can decide if its too big, other than that its actually a little better than the s3.
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I don't wanna start a flame war and I'm not trying to diss you but I'm just curious as to were you've been getting your info from. From all the people that have gotten the phone I haven't heard them say anything of what you just posted.
From all the reviews I have read, they say it's very smooth, the camera is very good, but not as good as the S3. The back is fragile but not as fragile as people seem to believe. The hardware is very good even though its by LG (it's pretty much an Optimus G) which is a very good phone by the way.
Oh yeah and the screen on that is much better than the S3. I believe the NOTE 2 has the same screen type as the S3 (correct me if I'm wrong)
The only thing that I really see as a downside is the damn storage. I just can't believe Google thinks that 16gb is enough now days. Even though there is the cloud, carriers restrict you on data.
Overall if you just use your phone for text and call I would go with the N4, since storage isn't a priority for you. I'm sure everyone prefers the pure Google experience with timely updates. Plus it's cheap without a contract.
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You bring up some valid points...especially that I'm only using my phone for calls and texts...N4 would be perfect for that. Pure Google...would love that. I guess I was hoping I'd use my phone for a little more. Hence Note 2. As far as the screen, I hear the AMOLED is too saturated with "fake" color. I love that screen to be honest. Fake colors or not, i think they are beautiful. I've yet to see N4 in person...or Note 2. Tomorrow I'm going to the T-Mobile store..hopefully they have both. Note 2 and GS3 both have AMOLED screens.
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I'm actually getting ready to switch to a Note 2 on Verizon as soon as it comes out. I love my S3, but I really want that huge screen, and extra battery life.
I've been with T Mobile for over 10 years, and their customer service is great, but I really want more reliable and consistent coverage. I'm actually rolling the dice on not being able to flash custom ROMs(or just having limited development) in exchange for a better network and LTE.
There's no way I would go with an N4, and that's only because of the 16 gigs of storage. I have a 16 gig S3 and had a 16 gig external SD card, and I still ended up having to upgrade to a 64 gig card. But if your not big into music, movies or games, then you probably don't have to worry about that.
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Why would custom ROMS be limited? Is it Verizon or the Note 2 in general?
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Warrior1975 said:
Why would custom ROMS be limited? Is it Verizon or the Note 2 in general?
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I heard VZW has locked bootloader and possibly hasn't been unlocked yet, could be wrong though
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N4 is a great device in my opinion. I love the vanilla Android and assurance of updates.
However, a lack of a removable battery and expandable storage is a big grippe to me. I like having the option to increase my storage capacities.
If you're worried about the size of the Note II, simply pick one up at the T-Mobile store or anywhere they would carry one. It's definitely a large device, it felt kind of awkward to me, but then again so did the GS3 when I first got it.
The N4 has the best price to performance ratio of any phone out there today, I believe.
That's a huge sweet spot to me.
I think that you'd be happy either way. All of these phones are great and should last you a while.
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Why would custom ROMS be limited? Is it Verizon or the Note 2 in general?
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Locked bootloader and even if it gets unlocked, my understanding is that there is less development on Verizon LTE phones. Might just have to do some research on porting my own ROM's, but I really think I could get used to running TW and just using a different launcher. Once we get root, we can at least do a few mods and use root apps.
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I like the note 2, its a very nice phone very fast, my coworker bought it and he loves it, I wish the s3 had the quad core processor like the euro did, that would make it even better. I kinda feel as if I got a gs2 with a bigger screen. If all you are going to do is calls and text then the note 2 is overdoing it. I would stick with the s3. I love the phone and can't wait to see what's next from samsung.
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I presume you have the money to upgrade. But let be honest, the N4 and Note 2 is not that different in term of overall quality compare to S3. I think you should wait till summer or so since by then something beastly and different will come out.
TJEclipse said:
I like the note 2, its a very nice phone very fast, my coworker bought it and he loves it, I wish the s3 had the quad core processor like the euro did, that would make it even better. I kinda feel as if I got a gs2 with a bigger screen. If all you are going to do is calls and text then the note 2 is overdoing it. I would stick with the s3. I love the phone and can't wait to see what's next from samsung.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but very few apps take advantage of dual core processing at the moment (let alone quad core) and the 2 cores on the US version are pretty fast (faster IIRC 1 for 1).
Hell tons of applications still come out for Windows that aren't multithreaded and multicore/multiprocessor systems have been around for many years now.
hardware wise
note 2>s3>n4
reality wise
s3>note 2>n4