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I'm wondering if ICS does anything different with regards to multitasking and efficient managing process threads.
Will I ever be able to hear youtube in the background while switching to something else??? This is one of the most important questions in the known universe!!!
Techincally, it's possible.
Realistically, the youtube team is never going to do it.
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Techincally, it's possible.
Realistically, the youtube team is never going to do it.
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Something I forgot to add. Couldn't the king multitasker, webOS, do this? I've seen it play videos (can't explicitly remember Youtube) in the background. But I don't remember if it had sound.
Flash ran in the background on webOS, because the flash plug in they developed allowed it to.
As far as I know on android the flash plug in for the browser will suspend when the browser is no longer the foreground activity.
The Android multitasking model doesn't stop applications from using all available CPU power in background (altho their process priorities will be lowered). A sensible developer would make their CPU heavy apps to cease processing when backgrounded. I figure Youtube will be among them. If you want to run YT in background to listen to music, I'd suggest using some other streaming service. YT will keep your CPU busier with video decoding, even if offscreen.
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The Android multitasking model doesn't stop applications from using all available CPU power in background (altho their process priorities will be lowered). A sensible developer would make their CPU heavy apps to cease processing when backgrounded. I figure Youtube will be among them. If you want to run YT in background to listen to music, I'd suggest using some other streaming service. YT will keep your CPU busier with video decoding, even if offscreen.
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This is correct. The reason you cannot play YouTube in the background is not because Android cannot do it, it is because the YouTube app is designed to stop when it is not in the foreground, on purpose. Sorry dude!
If there was a crying icon, I'd use it.
I understand though and it's perfectly reasonable. Part of me wants a lean device in my pocket. Part of me simply wants a small computer.
Maybe quad core improvements will help... Or the increased multitasking and encoding will just murder the battery while it ignores the battery's scream for mercy...
well, for the most part, this doesn't make sense to have full speed background processing when you move the app to the background. For the large majority of people, when they are watching YouTube and hit the home key, they want their YouTube video to stop playing.
As stated above, any smart dev will make their app slow down or pause in the background as to not eat up CPU/RAM and get killed off by the Android system itself.
OP, there are a lot of good music streaming options that don't require a video to be attached to them that just drains your phone.
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For the large majority of people, when they are watching YouTube and hit the home key, they want their YouTube video to stop playing.
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I dont know about that anymore, sometimes you just want to find a song quickly and play it. I wouldnt it mind playing the song in the background via youtube, or just listen to something else.
Cleargrey said:
Maybe quad core improvements will help...
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More cores won't magically drop the power requirements of a certain task.
SysAdmNj said:
I dont know about that anymore, sometimes you just want to find a song quickly and play it. I wouldnt it mind playing the song in the background via youtube, or just listen to something else.
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Most people don't use Youtube for music and it's not intended for it either so don't expect it to happen unless someone builds an alternative client for it. There are better services for discovering music.
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I dont know about that anymore, sometimes you just want to find a song quickly and play it. I wouldnt it mind playing the song in the background via youtube, or just listen to something else.
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I used to do this all the time to, to share an artist or a song with people. However, I've found that lately YouTube has been one of the worse places to go to try and find music. Majority of the results end up being covers or live cell phone captures or other useless junk. I'm sure there's a better solution out there, just haven't found it myself yet. =-/
Spotify...!
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Spotify...!
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Indeed. If they are looking for a free alternative that won't cut it though since it won't allow mobile streaming. Only Premium does that. Still, I could share some invites if anyone wants to try it out free.
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I know the multitasking is similar to Honeycomb, however with the guy from WebOS, I wonder if we fling an application from left to right, will it kill the app like in WebOS?
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Yep, swiping an app left or right from the multitasking screen will close the app.
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Yep, swiping an app left or right from the multitasking screen will close the app.
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Actually, my understanding is that it only hides it from the multitasking view (doesn't kill the app). Android is pretty well built on not needing any kind of "task killing" from the user or from task manager apps. I don't see why they'd start now.
Since we have a couple ppl in the forum who have the Galaxy Nexus I'd like to see what their findings are.
I have one... And it just hides the app.
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I have one... And it just hides the app.
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something deep down inside me always wants to close unused apps.
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something deep down inside me always wants to close unused apps.
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Don't worry. They're not bogging down the system. Android handles it!
While trying to get my music on my GS2, I found the easiest way was through the doubletwist player with Airsync. Seems to be a good player. Was using Google music, but that streams abd uses up my data.
What is your favorite music player???
The stock one works fine, had a few others but none stick out for me.
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I'm between poweramp and ubermusic.
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poweramp. spotify. google music.
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Been using winamp for about a day now. On my computer iTunes manages all my music so I wanted a music player that could sync with iTunes. Winamp does that fine and I like the layout of the player but it has one rather large inconvenience for me: the playlists don't sync. I went into the settings, specified that it sync all my playlists and specified I wanted them on H:\ (my SD card), but nothing :/
I really like Google music. And just so you know, you can save all the to the phone with one press of a button so it doesn't use the data . You can undo it just as easy.
Was on power Amp now I'm using player pro
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I really like poweramp. You can really customize all you want, but for the people who have lots of music that cant fit it all in their phone I guess winamp is good.
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I really like Google music. And just so you know, you can save all the to the phone with one press of a button so it doesn't use the data . You can undo it just as easy.
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Interesting.....when you do that doesn't it use up your storage space on the phone, being that it is downloaded to the device storage and also does it not use the data to to download it to the phone?
Google music works like this. It stream music from your library to your android device. If you lose connection it can stream past played songs that it has saved. So yes it uses storage, and yes it uses data. But it doesn't use much storage.
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Try doods music streamer from the market.. its pretty awesome
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I was liking stock for a while, but then Raycaster3 told me about PowerAmp, yes you have to pay for it but its by far gives you the most options and great sound quality. I did a test also with it to see how it sounds compared to the stock 5.1 sound. And it sounded the same if not better. Then you mix PowerAmp with a nice set of SkullCandy in ear headphones and your golden. I dont mean anything too expensive either I just went with the $29 ones because they also come with a mic. They are amazing. Oh I guess I also use Google Music because I have 40gigs of music stored in the Google Music Cloud.
PowerAmp user here.
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I was liking stock for a while, but then Raycaster3 told me about PowerAmp, yes you have to pay for it but its by far gives you the most options and great sound quality. I did a test also with it to see how it sounds compared to the stock 5.1 sound. And it sounded the same if not better. Then you mix PowerAmp with a nice set of SkullCandy in ear headphones and your golden. I dont mean anything too expensive either I just went with the $29 ones because they also come with a mic. They are amazing. Oh I guess I also use Google Music because I have 40gigs of music stored in the Google Music Cloud.
PowerAmp user here.
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Not to brag...but been a long time PowerAmp Pro user since my Nexus One days, and used with my Monster Turbine Gold Ear Buds....nothing short of awesomeness...PS....spent the last two days walking the carpets at the CES Las Vegas extravaganza and and I listened to no less than a dozen competing Ear Bud companies. The Monster Turbines won hands down for purest, smoothest, most pleasing sound quality, IMHO. Oh....I did get to demo a new Headset I saw featured on Fox and Friends before my first trip to the show a couple of days ago. My Bose QC15 noise canceling over the ears headphones got knocked of by a new company I first heard about at the show. ZIK Parrot phones. They work wired as well as Bluetooth wireless. Sound was great but the added features of hand gestures to control volume and track changes was/ is the way of the future. Instead of dealing with unplugging the phones to pause, simply remove from your ears and the music comes to a stop. Put them back on and it starts back where you left off. No price on these since they are not yet released to the public.
But don't even get me going on the best of the event....LG's 55" OLED 3D TV. Will knock anyone's socks off...period, guaranteed, and I will bet the farm on this statement. Thickness = to 3 credit cards stacked!!! Sorry for the slight thread drift, BTW....
Playerpro , lots of features and lovely ui.
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Playerpro , lots of features and lovely ui.
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Just spent an hour comparing. Yes, I downloaded the much needed DSP pack. PowerAMP WINS, IMHO, hands down. Give it a fair try to compare all aspects. Going thru the menu more preferences is extremely important too.
My 3 favorites in order:
1. ZPlayer - I really love the Zune player on Mango and this is a very good clone of it. It has integrated Shoutcast, a nice UI, a very nice lock screen controls that displays picture of whatever artist is playing as the lockscreen background, artist bio, widgets, equalizer and more. It's missing a few features, such as better playlist creation, but it's a very sexy and stylish player.
2. PowerAmp - The most complete player on the market. Has just about everything I mentioned ZPlayer has (minus Shoutcast and artist bio), in addition to good playlist management. Only cons, is it costs $, doesn't have automatic mixing like the Google player, and no streaming from Google or Amazon. Still just about the best player on the market. Only reason I put Zplayer higher is because I prefer the Zune player look of Zplayer, but that's totally personal preference.
3. Google Music - Great player, but a few things are holding it back. If I have music stored locally, when it syncs with Google it will duplicate the music, so for example I have two Nine Inch Nail artists in Google Music. I wish it would not display the music stored on Google if it already resides locally. Also will always stream by default, even if song is stored locally. Again, they need to make it so that it looks to see if song is stored locally and play that instead of reverting to streaming everything. Automatic mixing only available for streamed music (FYI, when I mention automatic mixing, I'm referring to the feature that is similar to Genius on apple devices - both iTunes on iPhone and Zune on WP7 offer this feature for music stored locally, Google player does not). Interface is a bit clunky.
Those are my personal 3 favorites. If I could find one that marries the UI of ZPlayer, with the features of PowerAmp and streaming capabilities of Google Music, it would be perfect.
Thanks,
Very informative. I loved Google Music, but with Tmobile throttling, not feasable. Is there a hack to get around the throttling?
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Very informative. I loved Google Music, but with Tmobile throttling, not feasable. Is there a hack to get around the throttling?
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Look for a thread in the General section. Use Throttling for a search. You will find it Read the thread and specifically go here.
https://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10151082945165054
This was referenced in the thread and goes into more detail.
I don't know how long this is going to work, but I have tested this myself and it does indeed keep yopu separated from T-Mobiles grasp on your data usage. I have the feeling this won't last long, based on too many people talking in the open.
EDIT..many of the Roms are also including hacks that help the throttling issue, but not like this which all together bypasses the counting.
For me it's really a two way tie. Poweramp and miui music.
hiki player > everything else
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I am on the hunt for the best music playing app. I currently use Google Music, as it is one of the best I have used to date. My problem is with the new limitation on devices I am eventually no longer going to be able to use it because I flash new roms all the time.
I don't want to store all my music on my SD because it is not exactly the most efficient way for me. I want to be able to stream my library just like the way Google Music does it, but I can't find anything that works as nice.
I'm sure I will not be the only one that will encounter this problem with the stupid limitation thing.
Any ideas???
I thought Google had fixed that a couple weeks ago? Have you tried checking on the Google Music webpage on your computer?
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Yea, Google responded pretty quickly to that uproar
http://www.androidmag.com/google-resolves-music-device-de-authorization-issue-now
I'm all for Google Music because of the cloud integration. I still find it amazing that I walk around with my 15,000 songs and 100+ playlists in my pocket.
I believe the stock audio player for CM9, Apollo, will also be a market app if I'm not mistaken. Anything from those guys is definitely worth checking out
thanks. I didn't know they fixed it. I cleaned up my device list now. Let's just hope that they don't put a limit on this in the future.
i've just switched from i9023 to i9250. the crappy sound was a great disappointment but i've found some patched kernel with sound improvements, so it's acceptable now. it's still far from a voodoo'd crespo, but it's OK now.
the only problem i cannot tackle with is the inconsistency of flac playback. some albums encoded in flac play fine but some others are not even recognised by the GPM. so as to track down the problem, i searched for two albums i encoded with the same flac lib with the same encoder setting, exactly. But not; one is playing fine but the other is being constantly refused. as both albums play perfect on crespo, i must have concluded that it's something very specific to maguro.
both phones have the same player (4.4.811H), auto-updated from play store. on crespo i have 4.1.2 stock, on maguro it's just upgraded to 4.2.1 stock ota.
any help would be greatly appreciated
thx !
There's a few commits laying around in aosp/master about FLAC.
Try cyanogenmod.
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the stock Google Play music player is a mess. So many lags in the UI, aniamtions are slow, the transitions are laggy and painful. The whole app is messy as **** and should be recoded from the ground and put on a new UI.
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There's a few commits laying around in aosp/master about FLAC.
Try cyanogenmod.
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thx, but i don't think to install another rom just because of this issue. i've tried aosp in the meantime, but besides the flac problem i've got gallery desynched; one by one it crapped all the apps synched with it (camera, talk, g+, ...) so i wont change to have more problem than i have now
would you, please, direct/link me to those sparse comments. i've made several hours search, but i haven't found anything about to this issue.
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the stock Google Play music player is a mess. So many lags in the UI, aniamtions are slow, the transitions are laggy and painful. The whole app is messy as **** and should be recoded from the ground and put on a new UI.
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i don't really mind how a music player looks like as i use it for listening to music. usually it's run in the background, so i don't really care about such issues. anyway, i tried several other players but the problem is persistent, so, again, it must be an inherent problem of maguro and not specific to GPM. again, exactly the same player plays fine the albums on crespo being not even recognised on maguro.
I have a problem with Google Play Music app. When I'm listening music and go to home or any other app and I come back to the music app it doesn't show the album picture nor the minute of the playing song.
Also sometimes it also stops playing music and the lockscreen widget starts blinking
I have this issue too but it doesn't bother me as much. For the alb um cover simply hit the back button and you're good to go. For the lockscreen flashing, turn off the display and turn it back on.
Yes, these issues are easily solved unlocking the device and that's all. But I think is something related with 4.2.1, I don't remember these issues with 4.1.2..
Am I the only one that sees glitches EVERYWHERE in the Google Play Music app? For an example, clicking on the Search button, the search icon stays at he same place, when the second search icon reaches the left side of the search area, the right search icon then disappears. did I mention how laggy the animation is?
Clicking on the Thumbs up button has like 2 FPS animation.
Navigating the lists, for an example from albums to playlists is glitchy.
Browsing somewhere then clicking on a song to play it basically is so glitchy and slow that it hurts my eyes.
I didn't notice the issue with the search icon before, but now I've seen it lol. The app in general is extremely laggy even here on Gnex. I don't have to mention how it was in my previous Xperia Neo...
I'm experiencing the same since 4.2.1, music stops randomly (not only on google music, poweramp and musicxmatch also) and the lockscreen widgets blinks
There are so many small things in the Google Play music, that it makes me believe that Google doesn't even use it themselves. Like Mark Zuckerberg forced his employees to use their Android app to realize how bad it was.
How the heck can a music player (which isn't a rocket science like simulation or an emulator or a game like Shadowgun) to lag in the UI? Every single animation in the app is laggy. Literally. Please, i dare you to find somewhere in the app that isn't glitchy. If I worked at Google, I couldn't sleep at night because I have shipped this app in this state to the Play store.
Did I mention the UI and the background? What's up with that blueish thingy that is the wallpaper. Looks so amateurish.
Also did I mention the fade in animation when you scroll down or up in lists like Recent or albums? Why put this transition effect even if it severely downgrades the performance? Just try to scroll when you have a lot of music. A nightmare.
I have started to realize that Google is treating us Nexus owners like labrats. Sad truth.
Just look at the Android 4.2 update. Not a word from Google about all these problems, that probably affected all the Galaxy nexus owners. Not a single word to Google's most loyal customers.
The truth is that 4.2 came with several new things but is not optimized and is very laggy. I had to flash CM10.1 because the stock rom wich always worked smoothly started freezing suddenly. It came to the point when something so simple like writting with the keyboard froze the phone for a while.
The best version i've seen on our phones is the 4.1.2 and i doubt Google will make it better.
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I have a problem with Google Play Music app. When I'm listening music and go to home or any other app and I come back to the music app it doesn't show the album picture nor the minute of the playing song.
Also sometimes it also stops playing music and the lockscreen widget starts blinking
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It happens to me too. Have you installed custom music player like cm9 music player or apollo music player?
It happened to me on stock 4.2.1 and now also on CM 10.1 (wich includes Apollo)
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It happened to me on stock 4.2.1 and now also on CM 10.1 (wich includes Apollo)
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I get those same issues when I use CM9 Music player and I don't mean the apollo.
So that's why I use all the time CM9 music player..
If you delete every custom music player including apollo player and then wipe cache and dalvik cache. Then Google play music player will work without any issues..
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There are so many small things in the Google Play music, that it makes me believe that Google doesn't even use it themselves. Like Mark Zuckerberg forced his employees to use their Android app to realize how bad it was.
How the heck can a music player (which isn't a rocket science like simulation or an emulator or a game like Shadowgun) to lag in the UI? Every single animation in the app is laggy. Literally. Please, i dare you to find somewhere in the app that isn't glitchy. If I worked at Google, I couldn't sleep at night because I have shipped this app in this state to the Play store.
Did I mention the UI and the background? What's up with that blueish thingy that is the wallpaper. Looks so amateurish.
Also did I mention the fade in animation when you scroll down or up in lists like Recent or albums? Why put this transition effect even if it severely downgrades the performance? Just try to scroll when you have a lot of music. A nightmare.
I have started to realize that Google is treating us Nexus owners like labrats. Sad truth.
Just look at the Android 4.2 update. Not a word from Google about all these problems, that probably affected all the Galaxy nexus owners. Not a single word to Google's most loyal customers.
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I am not seeing any issues with the google Music app other than what the OP is describing. mine doesn't lag when scrolling long lists or loading album art. i was scrolling as fast as possible and the album art was keeping right up with me. also no slow/buggy animations anywhere. maybe your app needs the data cleared or something?
as for the blue background.....yes, this needs to be updated for sure. the music app needs to be re-done ASAP to the more holo style....google themselves provided guidelines for designing apps, why not use them on their own apps?
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I am not seeing any issues with the google Music app other than what the OP is describing. mine doesn't lag when scrolling long lists or loading album art. i was scrolling as fast as possible and the album art was keeping right up with me. also no slow/buggy animations anywhere. maybe your app needs the data cleared or something?
as for the blue background.....yes, this needs to be updated for sure. the music app needs to be re-done ASAP to the more holo style....google themselves provided guidelines for designing apps, why not use them on their own apps?
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Could you please record your phone and showing off Google Music? I want to know how your animations are.
Do we know if this is a problem with CM specifically or simply the GMusic app being buggy? I have significant issues on my Gnex with Google Play Music, lots of freezing, problems with widgets not responding, and even flickering on the lock screen.