Hi,
Please forgive my language mistakes.
I've got a strange issue. When I push my cell with my thumb in the 'red' area while holding blue one in place phone is unlocking automatically.
I've dissassembled and assembled my phone twice without any problems but it might be a consequence of that.
How can I disable:
1) automatically unlocking by removing stylus (maybe I'm pushing some sensor?)
2) automatically unlocking by sliding keyboard (maybe telephone thinks that keyboard is opening? - despite that that keyboard opens in opposite way....)
Thanks in advance
ksymis said:
Hi,
Please forgive my language mistakes.
I've got a strange issue. When I push my cell with my thumb in the 'red' area while holding blue one in place phone is unlocking automatically.
I've dissassembled and assembled my phone twice without any problems but it might be a consequence of that.
How can I disable:
1) automatically unlocking by removing stylus (maybe I'm pushing some sensor?)
2) automatically unlocking by sliding keyboard (maybe telephone thinks that keyboard is opening? - despite that that keyboard opens in opposite way....)
Thanks in advance
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1&2 are effects of software. I think they can both be disabled, probably deep in WinMo's registry... I'm sorry, I don't know how to disable either of these off-hand - but I'm sure there's a way in WinMo.
As for your first description and picture, I have no clue what to make of it, sorry. It appears your phone is badly cracked, and the phone is thinking the keyboard is opening as a result of pressure on that cracked section.
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1&2 are effects of software. I think they can both be disabled, probably deep in WinMo's registry... I'm sorry, I don't know how to disable either of these off-hand - but I'm sure there's a way in WinMo.
As for your first description and picture, I have no clue what to make of it, sorry. It appears your phone is badly cracked, and the phone is thinking the keyboard is opening as a result of pressure on that cracked section.
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Thank you very much for your answer!
Well I also believie that these options can be disabled by WinMo registry editting. The problem is I don't know where to modify.
Does someone else knows?
Well my phone is quite old but it costed me a lot of money so despite it's quite cracked I want to use it!
Maybe try using TouchLockPro to control these sensors:
http://touchlockpro.sourceforge.net/TouchLockProFree.html
mr.horndoctor said:
Maybe try using TouchLockPro to control these sensors:
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Thanks. It only helped that right now i know that this is caused by keyboard sensor. In some strange way the phone (when i push as shown on picture) thinks that I'm opening the keyboard (must be really 'cracked' becuse the keyboards opens in opposite direction).
What's sad - the TouchLockPro is unable to control this behaviour. I don't know why - maybe because of Energy ROM which has CHT inside and this is overwritten.
Any ideas?
ksymis said:
Thanks. It only helped that right now i know that this is caused by keyboard sensor. In some strange way the phone (when i push as shown on picture) thinks that I'm opening the keyboard (must be really 'cracked' becuse the keyboards opens in opposite direction).
What's sad - the TouchLockPro is unable to control this behaviour. I don't know why - maybe because of Energy ROM which has CHT inside and this is overwritten.
Any ideas?
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In the back of the Midframe (the metal back of the top half of the phone where the screen is at) there are two small metal sensors or whatever you want to call them. They are inside the track of the slider, try adjusting those a little and see if that makes any difference. I think that those could be the sensors that are messing up the keybaord detection on your phone. Maybe when you apply a little pressure on the phone the sliders inside the track are moving a little causing the phone to think that you have slid the keybaord open.
ccengineer said:
In the back of the Midframe (the metal back of the top half of the phone where the screen is at) there are two small metal sensors or whatever you want to call them. They are inside the track of the slider, try adjusting those a little and see if that makes any difference. I think that those could be the sensors that are messing up the keybaord detection on your phone. Maybe when you apply a little pressure on the phone the sliders inside the track are moving a little causing the phone to think that you have slid the keybaord open.
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Thanks for your reply. Are you talking about these on below photos?
And if you're talking about these ... How do they work? Because if I will slide out the keyboard a liitle (the metal sensors are already untouched) the keyboard is still not lighted and a screen is in portrait mode....
ksymis said:
Thanks for your reply. Are you talking about these on below photos?
And if you're talking about these ... How do they work? Because if I will slide out the keyboard a liitle (the metal sensors are already untouched) the keyboard is still not lighted and a screen is in portrait mode....
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I'm sorry, I missspoke. After further investigation it looks like the sensor is magnetic. While your keyboard is open try to place a magnet under the screen part of the phone and see if that would flip the phone back to portrait mode. Try to move it around a little to find teh most effective place for it. If it does we might be able to solve your problem with a little improvisation.
ccengineer said:
I'm sorry, I missspoke. After further investigation it looks like the sensor is magnetic. While your keyboard is open try to place a magnet under the screen part of the phone and see if that would flip the phone back to portrait mode. Try to move it around a little to find teh most effective place for it. If it does we might be able to solve your problem with a little improvisation.
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Thanks for your reply. This is magnetic indeed. When I will place a magnet under screen part (1/4 of screen part area under the buttons) it switches to portrait. But I can't a "pattern". I.e. if i will place it under right bottom (if you're looking at LCD) corner it switches to portrait but if I will put for a while magnet onto middle of 'screen-part' (ofcourse nothing happens) and then back again to 'right bottom corrner' also nothing happens. Unable to find some pattern/rule for that.
ksymis said:
Thanks for your reply. This is magnetic indeed. When I will place a magnet under screen part (1/4 of screen part area under the buttons) it switches to portrait. But I can't a "pattern". I.e. if i will place it under right bottom (if you're looking at LCD) corner it switches to portrait but if I will put for a while magnet onto middle of 'screen-part' (ofcourse nothing happens) and then back again to 'right bottom corrner' also nothing happens. Unable to find some pattern/rule for that.
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Good. So here is what I think is happening with your phone. When you press the part you were talking about in your first post, the magnetic field from the bottom of the phone is getting distorted for some reason making the upper part of your phone think that you have slid the phone open thus unlocking it and switching it to landscape mode. We do not want to buy anything costly to fix your problem, so here is what we can do. We can strengthen the magnetic field by placing a small 2mm magnet somewhre on the lower part of the phone preferably insulated and glued inside in an empty space. What will happen is when your keboard is not slid open the magnet will give teh signal to the upper part and it will be strong enough that even if you push it like you were doing it will not unlock. But when you slide the keyboard out the magnet will not be under the upper part anymore so the uper part of the phone will not be affected by it. Since you already opened your phone twice I don't think that it should be a problem for you. Just be carefull because we don't want the magnet to become loose and move around and short anything.
ccengineer said:
We can strengthen the magnetic field by placing a small 2mm magnet somewhre on the lower part of the phone preferably insulated and glued inside in an empty space.
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Thank you for your reply and appreciate your help! I've quoted the most interesting part. I had a scientific lessons on school and was moving my magnet around this 'magic corner'. I want to confirm that somehow i might have strenghed the magnet inside the device? Because right now it's a little bit better (at least better that I don't want to push with more power in case of destroying it).
Another question is about 2mm. You mean a cube 2x2x2mm or 2mmxYxZ (2mm thickness required.
ksymis said:
Thank you for your reply and appreciate your help! I've quoted the most interesting part. I had a scientific lessons on school and was moving my magnet around this 'magic corner'. I want to confirm that somehow i might have strenghed the magnet inside the device? Because right now it's a little bit better (at least better that I don't want to push with more power in case of destroying it).
Another question is about 2mm. You mean a cube 2x2x2mm or 2mmxYxZ (2mm thickness required.
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That's interesting, maybe you realligned the magnetic field, that is not entirely impossible. I was talking about diameter, we want a very small magnet. It looks like the 2mm is more expensive than 3mm so maybe you can use a 3mm like this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/50-Disc-Rar...598?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f0a038d56
But since it is better now, you might not need it.
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That's interesting, maybe you realligned the magnetic field, that is not entirely impossible. I was talking about diameter, we want a very small magnet. It looks like the 2mm is more expensive than 3mm so maybe you can use a 3mm like this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/50-Disc-Rar...598?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f0a038d56
But since it is better now, you might not need it.
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Hope It'll stay like this. Since 'magneting' my device didn't unlock itself not even once! :> Thanks for your support.
Really really thanks for your help/support/assistance!!!
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Hello Guys,
Just brought mine yesterday. I have this clicking sound when i tilt back the display flat in order to slide back into the phone body...Is this a mechanical problem or just normal.....Hoping to find a peace of mind...
Feihong
You have found your peace (got the same click as well).
Cheers, Dela
Yeah, it's supposed to do it! I think it's an improvement over the Kaiser, as you won't try to slide it in unless you hear the click to confirm it's shut properly, so it's less likely to get damaged.
I get the same click, it sounds a bit destructive at first and had me worried!
On a similar theme, has anyone noticed the ribbon cable connecting the screen to the body is awfull exposed and vulnerable? It's safely hidden away on the Kaiser.
The ribbon cable is hidden under the black belt (movement restrictor) that you see when looking from behind of the screen
joining in the confirmation fun here. I click as well but i prefer that click
Tilt a little loose
Hello,
speaking of tilting I have another question. When the screen is tilted, it's a little "loose", it moves forward and backward for 2,3 millimeters .... only mine?
Thanks
(sorry for my bad english ...)
Xra
look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524641
it appears to be normal
Thanks ... I didn't know what wobbly mean ....
I was having issues with the magnet in my phone case actually turning on the screen, and taking off the keylock! Pretty crazy, but it was happening. In order to fix this I had to disable the phone from waking up when the keyboard is slid out...not a big deal, I never slid the keyboard out unless the screen was on anyway. The problem is solved.
My question is will this have any negative effect on the phone? Will the magnet in the case mess with the accelerometer or g-sensor? I would hate for the case to cause future issues.
Thanks.
Anybody have any ideas?
I don't know about the accelerometer, but in my phone it seems to mess with the stylus sensor, and turn the phone on and unlock it.
The stylus sensor on the TP2 is not magnetic, but the keyboard slide sensor is. That is why magnets turn the phone on.
redpoint73 said:
The stylus sensor on the TP2 is not magnetic, but the keyboard slide sensor is. That is why magnets turn the phone on.
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Not on mine - I have the universal one and that one has no magnetic unlock mechanism.
As far as I know the G-sensor has nothing to do with magnets and cannot be interfered by magnets. (Have a magnetic button on my shield)
Anytime I turn on the phone after taking it out of the case it thinks it's in lanscape mode. I had to turn off the option of having the phone turn on when the keyboard is slid out.
What I'm wondering is if the magnet in my case will effect this sensor or anything else in the phone?
Thanks.
In short the answer is no. It is in landscape mode because you take the phone out past the magnets to get it out of the holder. There is a magnet in the keyboard sliding mechanism that is used to trigger landscape mode when you slide it out. When you pull it out of the holder the phone thinks you have opened keyboard and goes into landscape mode. In a few seconds when it realizes that you havent opened the keyboard, it goes back to regular mode.
Hope this helps clarify things. Bottom line is that the holder will not do anything negative to phone or degrade its performance in any way. I have two factory HTC cases that both have magnets in them from my Kaisers. Even HTC wouldnt ship somthing that was bad for the phone with them.
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In short the answer is no. It is in landscape mode because you take the phone out past the magnets to get it out of the holder. There is a magnet in the keyboard sliding mechanism that is used to trigger landscape mode when you slide it out. When you pull it out of the holder the phone thinks you have opened keyboard and goes into landscape mode. In a few seconds when it realizes that you havent opened the keyboard, it goes back to regular mode.
Hope this helps clarify things. Bottom line is that the holder will not do anything negative to phone or degrade its performance in any way. I have two factory HTC cases that both have magnets in them from my Kaisers. Even HTC wouldnt ship somthing that was bad for the phone with them.
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Sounds good, thanks for the explanation. I knew it was the magnet playing w/ the KB sensor, but I just wasn't sure if it would have any negative effect on the phone itself. It looks as though it will not!
Thanks.
What's the best way to stop the phone answering calls when I open my case (it has a magnetic catch)? I went to add SlideWakeup = 0 in the registry, but it's already there.
I'm running S2U2, latest version if that makes a difference.
Thanks
I run s2u2 also, no issues when I pull it out...other than the screen is on, which is no big deal, but the screen is still locked.
Hello,
I dropped my Touch Pro 2 in fresh water. No insurance of course and no more discount from T-mobile to buy a new phone.
Following video instructions on youtube I disassembled it, I believe without breaking anything.
The LCD screen was gone (water inside), and I bought a new one in eBay.
Once I received it I reassambled the phone. Evertyhting seems to work fine but... the screen is stuck in landscape!
Of course I did soft and hard reset, tried to play / disable the G-sensor and orientation sensor, nothing: I believe it has to do with some switch that recognize when the keyboard is slide open, but I have no idea what sensor is it, I can't find any mechanism that resemble a micro switch or a mini magnet related to the opening / closing of the keyboard. Instead I find a microswitch that senses when the pen is inside, but nothing about the screen.
Any suggestion, does anybody here have any hardware knowledge on this topic? I tried to use software like Gyrator 2 which put a patch on the problem, but I would rather fix the hardware first: perhaps I did not mount something correctly, where is this sensor, is it magnetic or microswitch, I can't see anything even with lenses on.
thank you all in advance
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I have exactly same problem, my TP2 is stuck in landscape mode. I bought TP2 in the US. My housing was broken so I bought a new one in europe the oem one with lcd screen and digitizer... Could this make the problem?
I am pretty sad, I dont want to buy a new phone :S
The sensor must be in the screen-half of the phone underneath where the red "end call" button is. This is demonstrated if a healthy phone is slid open, and then you pass a small magnet underneath the screen in that area, screen will flip between portrait and landscape.
Which yes I did the same thing today and it was your post randell that helped me. All you need to do is go to walmart purchase the smallest but most powerful smallest magnet you can find. cut you a piece of it, superglue it to the bottom right corner. worked like a charm.
or if you wanted to open your case back up like i did you can superglue it on the inside lol. If you look at your old case you will find your old magnet you can use. simple easy just thought id let you know k bye ta ta.
sabwjawdjw said:
which yes i did the same thing today and it was your post randell that helped me. All you need to do is go to walmart purchase the smallest but most powerful smallest magnet you can find. Cut you a piece of it, superglue it to the bottom right corner. Worked like a charm.
Or if you wanted to open your case back up like i did you can superglue it on the inside lol. If you look at your old case you will find your old magnet you can use. Simple easy just thought id let you know k bye ta ta.
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thank you verrrrrrrryyyyyyyyyyyy muchhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
thank youuuuuuuuu
I was on here by chance and I had the same issue when I replaced my digitizer on my TP2 a year ago. I could never figure it out so I bit bullet and brought a new phone. I will try this when I get home and if it works be great because i loved that phone soo much when I had it thanks guys!!
Hi, my Xperia play has a kinda loose back of the screen plate, the part i point in the picture with a red arrow is different feeling, like a bit loose unlike the part i point with the blue arrow.
if i press the part of the backplate pointed with the blue arrow i dont feel any movement at all, but if i touch the part pointed by the red arrow i notice it is more away meaning more detached from the back of the screen than the other and if push it i can feel it moving to the position the other is.
so mi question is, is this normal, and could it cause any problems with normal use, the phone is new, i noticed it by accident.
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Anyone please
If it's relatively new, call your provider and get it replaced. Should be under warrenty.
Also check to make sure theres no broken clips.
can i tell if a clip is broken without openning the cell? i dont' think is is because it just like half cm that the side market in the red arrow is outter than the blue one, but i can push it foward unlike the blue arrow one that is still.
Heres a detailed photo of the problem, the part in the blue square is good and the part in the red square is kinda misaligned out of the frame (i can push it and it moves to the place it should be, but comes to this position when i stop pushing), could this be serious and possibly get worst or this is something that can normally happen normal can i continue using it without problems, i don't have warranty
what you guys think, looking at the last picture?
Sorry, I know this isn't going to help but, your Play looks way different to mine. Different volume and different L/R buttons. I know there are different models, but I never realised that the actually outwards facing hardware was different.
R800i myself.
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d31b0y said:
Sorry, I know this isn't going to help but, your Play looks way different to mine. Different volume and different L/R buttons. I know there are different models, but I never realised that the actually outwards facing hardware was different.
R800i myself.
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yeah me neither. +1
EDIT he's got a rubber case on it. lol I bet we both feel stupid now.
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Lol.
So back on topic, please can someone tell me if i should worry of this problem or i can continue use the phone normally without concern:
Heres a detailed photo of the problem, the part in the blue square is good and the part in the red square is kinda misaligned out of the frame (i can push it and it moves to the place it should be, but comes to this position when i stop pushing), could this be serious and possibly get worst or this is something that can normally happen normal can i continue using it without problems, i don't have warranty
Is it in warrenty?
no, do you think is something serious or i can continue using it normally?
Nobody can really tell without actually getting it into their hands. To me, from the pictures, it looks ok to use. But without actually feeling how loose it is I can't say for sure.
Personally, without a warranty, I would continue to use it but just be careful when sliding it open and closed.
If you notice anything other than the loose backplate, then it is time to get it checked out. Eg, dimmed screen, lack of responsiveness to the touch screen etc. Especially around the area where it is loose.
thanks, it's not realy loose just kinda moved half cm outwards of the frame, and it only moves if i push it down to where it is supposed to be. the other side cant be moved because its pressed against the frame, unlike this side.
Yeah, just sounds like a broken clip all right. Like what you first though. I'd say you will be fine.
Thanks.
Could be but i dont feel any broken pieces moving inside, and i havent dropped the phone and i opened from its seal brand new.
but is this is the cause, you think this could have been caused by the plastic case, it's a trident one?
also, can clips be replaced easily by yourself, or the cell have to be serviced?
No, it's more likely a clip that is actually attached to the casing. You are unlikely to hear anything as it would have fallen out long ago. They are quite small.
Eg, like the ones that hold the back of the phone in place.
I can't imagine a case would have done this. It's too.... internal, if you know what I mean. Is it possible it was like this when you bought it? It could have just been shipped badly or something. These things happen.
If it is what I think it is, then the casing itself would need to be replaced and that wouldn't be worth the money.
Thanks again
Hey guys I just got my note 2 today and have been messing around with the S pen. Does anyone else notice that when pressing buttons on the screen to open apps or things in apps etc that it is not always responsive unless you hit it at the perfect angle? Also when I write normally i kind of write more at a sideways angle towards the screen but it seems to not register very well like this so I have to write more vertical towards the screen. Is there any way to fix these issues or is that just how it is at this time? Also i feel like if I write too lightly it doesn't register very well when writing. Is there a way to adjust the sensitivity or am I the only one who thinks this? Lastly, if i touch the screen with my palm it makes a mark in s note i thought it was not supposed to do this or let your finger write when the s pen is out. How do I set this?
jakebake said:
Hey guys I just got my note 2 today and have been messing around with the S pen. Does anyone else notice that when pressing buttons on the screen to open apps or things in apps etc that it is not always responsive unless you hit it at the perfect angle? Also when I write normally i kind of write more at a sideways angle towards the screen but it seems to not register very well like this so I have to write more vertical towards the screen. Is there any way to fix these issues or is that just how it is at this time? Also i feel like if I write too lightly it doesn't register very well when writing. Is there a way to adjust the sensitivity or am I the only one who thinks this? Lastly, if i touch the screen with my palm it makes a mark in s note i thought it was not supposed to do this or let your finger write when the s pen is out. How do I set this?
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I have a similar issue where i seem to have to press hard to get a reaction, especially the app drawer icon.
I notice you have to hit dead on which makes sense. This isn't a pencil or pen where you can write slanted and the ink still touch the paper or what not. But rather the "ball" of the s pen is where your main contact should be. Takes getting used to but what doesn't? Pen works great once you learn how it works
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I had to exchange my S-pen 3 times due to sensitivity issue! One of them was way too sensitivity, I wasn't even touching the screen and I could write on S-note... Store manager thought that was part of the Note 2's new feature... lol
Even after the exchange of S-pen I was still having little issues with it, and I ran across a thread about slamming the S-pen on the ground. I know it sounds bizarre but it actually worked! I didn't believe it at first but now my s-pen works flawless... so weird. :silly:
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I had to exchange my S-pen 3 times due to sensitivity issue! One of them was way too sensitivity, I wasn't even touching the screen and I could write on S-note... Store manager thought that was part of the Note 2's new feature... lol
Even after the exchange of S-pen I was still having little issues with it, and I ran across a thread about slamming the S-pen on the ground. I know it sounds bizarre but it actually worked! I didn't believe it at first but now my s-pen works flawless... so weird. :silly:
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lol like throwing it or just slamming it? and yeah i figured it would just take getting used to I just wanted to make sure it wasn't just my pen. So is there really no settings to change for it though??
Also funny question... does it matter which way it is held? Like when I was first holding it you would press the button with your thumb however you could also hold it so you would press it with your index finger. Does it matter? Is it made to work better one way?
bipoler said:
I notice you have to hit dead on which makes sense. This isn't a pencil or pen where you can write slanted and the ink still touch the paper or what not. But rather the "ball" of the s pen is where your main contact should be. Takes getting used to but what doesn't? Pen works great once you learn how it works
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Take a closer look at the tip of the S-pen. It's actually slightly spring loaded! I discovered this from an early review video I watched before I purchased mine. I believe that the tip has to be pressed hard enough to slightly retract in order to produce a mark. Writing with the pen at an angle may not be doing that.
Doug
Mom said don't smack
But I just tried it and the pen is working 95% better. I don't know if it will stay this way but it's working pretty well (for now at least).
stupid but it works for me.
jakebake said:
Hey guys I just got my note 2 today and have been messing around with the S pen. Does anyone else notice that when pressing buttons on the screen to open apps or things in apps etc that it is not always responsive unless you hit it at the perfect angle? Also when I write normally i kind of write more at a sideways angle towards the screen but it seems to not register very well like this so I have to write more vertical towards the screen. Is there any way to fix these issues or is that just how it is at this time? Also i feel like if I write too lightly it doesn't register very well when writing. Is there a way to adjust the sensitivity or am I the only one who thinks this? Lastly, if i touch the screen with my palm it makes a mark in s note i thought it was not supposed to do this or let your finger write when the s pen is out. How do I set this?
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Hey I have the same problem with you but I have solved it in a stupid but effective way. I open the back case and press it, that's it the pen sensitivity back to normal.... lol try it easy and effective....
The S pen can be too sensitive, so you have to adjust its potentiometer. Yes, you heard that right.Just pop the button cover off by simply using a razor blade or something really thin, the cover should pop immediately. Then, you have to use a small flat head screwdriver and turn the screw clockwise. This will adjust the S Pen sensitivity. If you want to make it more sensible, then you have to screw counterclockwise. You should adjust it until it no longer has a problem. This fix has worked for a lot of people, so it should work as a general fix. If you still have problems with the S pen, then you should get in touch with the dealer that gave the phone to you and get the S pen switched because it is faulty.
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The S pen can be too sensitive, so you have to adjust its potentiometer. Yes, you heard that right.Just pop the button cover off by simply using a razor blade or something really thin, the cover should pop immediately. Then, you have to use a small flat head screwdriver and turn the screw clockwise. This will adjust the S Pen sensitivity. If you want to make it more sensible, then you have to screw counterclockwise. You should adjust it until it no longer has a problem. This fix has worked for a lot of people, so it should work as a general fix. If you still have problems with the S pen, then you should get in touch with the dealer that gave the phone to you and get the S pen switched because it is faulty.
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Wish I had known this a last week before I broke my last S Pen. lol Worked great and I even adjusted my full size S Pen as well! Kudos!