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I've read on many reviews (Gizmodo, Engadget, CNet, etc) that the battery on the DInc is not that great, but mine is incredibly... bad. Examples:
I browse the web (mostly mobile websites with not many images, flash etc) for ~20 mins and battery life decreases by 20%
I leave the phone ON overnight without charging and it's at 2% in the morning. When I went to sleep it was at 60%
I turn the phone OFF overnight without charging and it dies (I couldn't turn it on, had to charge for 15 mins even to turn on). When I went to sleep it was at 30%
I've also heard both that ATK is useless and that it's a gift from God for battery life. I'm running the Pro version killing every 30min and it's not helping that much (maybe 30 mins)
Is my battery defective, or are other users also experiencing this bad of battery life? My DInc is SLCD, running UberZ RC1.2 with stock battery.
Im guessing you havent had your incredible for more than five months right? Considering htc didnt start making them until the late summer. Anyways I do know that desire z ports often use up quite a bit of battery in their displays. However considering you left it on overnight and it was nearly dead I dont think it was that. Something you can try is going in the advanced menu on clockwork mod and erasing battery stats. This seems more like a defective battery though. New batteries can be bought for fairly cheap and if you do decide to get a new one you can get them for pretty cheap. Touchpro 2 batteries supposedly work with the incredible as well
Make sure you turn off GPS, WiFi, Bluetooth, etc. when not in use.
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Im guessing you havent had your incredible for more than five months right? Considering htc didnt start making them until the late summer. Anyways I do know that desire z ports often use up quite a bit of battery in their displays. However considering you left it on overnight and it was nearly dead I dont think it was that. Something you can try is going in the advanced menu on clockwork mod and erasing battery stats. This seems more like a defective battery though. New batteries can be bought for fairly cheap and if you do decide to get a new one you can get them for pretty cheap. Touchpro 2 batteries supposedly work with the incredible as well
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Yeah, I've had it for about a month. I will reply after erasing battery stats and trying it out. I'm not sure that I would use a Touch Pro 2 battery - seems like too much of a risk. However, I have seen Evo Batteries on Amazon that supposedly work with the Dinc. Do they?
If it helps, I use widget locker, with: extended controls, fancy widget, nexus revamped (with a lot of spawns on slow) and 3 sliders.
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Make sure you turn off GPS, WiFi, Bluetooth, etc. when not in use.
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I have, I barely use BT or GPS so they're almost always off. I only turn GPS on when I'm charging and I'm using location based apps. 3G is off at home and Wifi is off on the road / at school and when I'm not using the phone.
What you might want to try doing is uninstalling widget locker and charging your phone all the way up. If after uninstalling widget locker the drain is still significant it may be the battery. And from what I read, the evo battery works with the incredible, it just makes the back cover fit a bit more tight.
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What you might want to try doing is uninstalling widget locker and charging your phone all the way up. If after uninstalling widget locker the drain is still significant it may be the battery. And from what I read, the evo battery works with the incredible, it just makes the back cover fit a bit more tight.
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OK, I've wiped battery stats, though it's only been a few mins so I can't tell yet. I'll reply in a couple of days. Also, can I just disable WidgetLocker instead of uninstalling it?
I also have a silicone case that hooks on the front edges, will an Evo Innocell (with back cover) mess with that?
I dont think an evo back cover would work for the incredible as they are not the same dimensions.
And btw touchpro 2 battery will work with the incredible
http://androidforums.com/incredible-accessories/72006-fyi-touch-pro-2-battery-works-incredible.html
Heres one for $5 if youre thinking about it.
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.35632
I just moved to an Incredible from my Droid 1 and the battery life is horrible compared... I got it as a replacement for having so many issues with my Droid but the battery life is almost unusable I'm running CM 6.1 and I wiped my battery stats, drained the battery then let it charge overnight powered off and I still get really bad life... I think a lot of it may have to do with the stock 1300mAh battery compared to the Droid having 1500mAh but I'm not sure... I'm considering the 3500mAh sedio battery but $70 bucks is a bit steep atm
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I dont think an evo back cover would work for the incredible as they are not the same dimensions.
And btw touchpro 2 battery will work with the incredible
Heres one for $5 if youre thinking about it.
Thanks for the great find, though I was thinking about maybe one of those seidio 3500's. Though since it's so cheap, I'll probably buy it
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I just moved to an Incredible from my Droid 1 and the battery life is horrible compared... I got it as a replacement for having so many issues with my Droid but the battery life is almost unusable I'm running CM 6.1 and I wiped my battery stats, drained the battery then let it charge overnight powered off and I still get really bad life... I think a lot of it may have to do with the stock 1300mAh battery compared to the Droid having 1500mAh but I'm not sure... I'm considering the 3500mAh sedio battery but $70 bucks is a bit steep atm
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I've seen one on amazon for ~$25. Not seidio though. Reviews were meh.
I don't think its the 1300 mah vs 1500 mah. That's less than 20% (so like 10 hrs vs 12 hrs).
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Didnt see the part about disabling widget locker, sorry.
Yes you probably can disable it just make sure it is definitely not running.
pianoplayer said:
I've read on many reviews (Gizmodo, Engadget, CNet, etc) that the battery on the DInc is not that great, but mine is incredibly... bad. Examples:
I browse the web (mostly mobile websites with not many images, flash etc) for ~20 mins and battery life decreases by 20%
I leave the phone ON overnight without charging and it's at 2% in the morning. When I went to sleep it was at 60%
I turn the phone OFF overnight without charging and it dies (I couldn't turn it on, had to charge for 15 mins even to turn on). When I went to sleep it was at 30%
I've also heard both that ATK is useless and that it's a gift from God for battery life. I'm running the Pro version killing every 30min and it's not helping that much (maybe 30 mins)
Is my battery defective, or are other users also experiencing this bad of battery life? My DInc is SLCD, running UberZ RC1.2 with stock battery.
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Don't run ATK. Android manages apps by itself. There's a whole lifehacker article on it.
Sounds like a run-away app.
Hmm, turn your screen off and let your phone sit for 5 mintues. Go into Settings > About Phone > Battery > Compare uptime vs awake. They should be AT LEAST 5 minutes apart.
If they're not, go to the market and install "Watchdog Task Manager" (<--this is NOT the same as ATK, again, lifehacker article on it) to monitor rouge apps.
Hope this helps!
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Don't run ATK. Android manages apps by itself. There's a whole lifehacker article on it.
Sounds like a run-away app.
Hmm, turn your screen off and let your phone sit for 5 mintues. Go into Settings > About Phone > Battery > Compare uptime vs awake. They should be AT LEAST 5 minutes apart.
If they're not, go to the market and install "Watchdog Task Manager" (<--this is NOT the same as ATK, again, lifehacker article on it) to monitor rouge apps.
Hope this helps!
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My phone has been sitting and charging for ~2 hours, but up - awake = 5:12. Is it normal?
Great work, by the way.
There is no normal.
Up time is the elapsed time since you turned your phone on. (i.e. after the phone was completely off, not just screen off/sleep mode).
Awake time is suppose to only be the time your phone was actively being used (i.e. screen on).
So, Up time minus Awake time should equal the time your screen has been off, (i.e. asleep).
If Up time and Awake time are equal, and you've had the screen turned off (i.e. asleep) for part of that time, then you have some app that's staying active durning sleep mode.
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There is no normal.
Up time is the elapsed time since you turned your phone on. (i.e. after the phone was completely off, not just screen off/sleep mode).
Awake time is suppose to only be the time your phone was actively being used (i.e. screen on).
So, Up time minus Awake time should equal the time your screen has been off, (i.e. asleep).
If Up time and Awake time are equal, and you've had the screen turned off (i.e. asleep) for part of that time, then you have some app that's staying active durning sleep mode.
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I might reboot when I go to sleep tonight and do nothing on the phone, then check uptime vs awake when I wake up.
1300 Mah battery is not acceptable for a phone of this caliber. There are alternative options for battery's. I use setcpu to underclock the proc and I've seen a dramatic increase in battery life.
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1300 Mah battery is not acceptable for a phone of this caliber. There are alternative options for battery's. I use setcpu to underclock the proc and I've seen a dramatic increase in battery life.
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I've been using Setcpu as well, with 998 mhz while charging, 245 when screen off, 245-520 when hot or <20%, and 245-850 otherwise.
Agreed about the battery, HTC and VW probably want to force you to spend more on extended batteries.
Too bad, otherwise it'd be a perfect phone.
HTC usually seems to skimp on the battery. It really hurts their reviews but I suppose they can save costs and assume people can always buy an aftermarket battery. I don't agree with it but it's their business.
Anyway, that does sound like abnormally bad battery life, but I have a question - are you in a poor service area? If so, the radio might be working extra hard to acquire a signal. Even when I had my dumb phone Samsung alias (which had decent dumbphone battery life) I would experience complete battery drain if I left it in my poor coverage basement overnight.
Also, when you're browsing the web and such do you use wifi or 3g? I notice that when I continuously surf with 3g the phone starts to get warm, especially in mid-poor coverage areas. When the phone gets hot the battery gets hot, and when the battery gets hot it drains much much quicker. Of course, high power usage generates more heat so I'm inclined to believe our 3g radio consumes way more battery than our wifi radio.
Over the months I've combatted poor battery life by doing the following:
1. Purchase aftermarket batteries. I've fallen into HTC's trap. I bought an evo battery which can last me of 6-7 hours of wifi awake time and 4-5 hours of 3g awake time. I also purchased the extended 2150 battery from Verizon which I can get up to 10 hours of wifi surfing and 5-6 hours of 3g surfing. Back when I was on stock 1300 I would get 3-4 hours wifi surfing and 2-3 hours 3g surfing.
2. Install an undervolted kernel, if you're into that sorta thing. One of the main reasons I'm able to obtain the numbers above is due to my kernel which undervolts the processor. I use adrynalyne's experimental undervolted kernel and it works without a hitch. I use it in conjunction with setcpu so I can have a screen off profile which underclocks the processor to 128-384MHz while I'm not using it. The only caveat to using this kernel is you can only use the conservative CPU governor. This means lower clocked speeds will be preferred as the CPU actively scales itself, and will take longer to ramp up to the higher speeds. But we're talking about maximizing battery life so that isn't necessarily a bad thing.
3. Try to keep screen brightness down, minimize usage of other radios (Bluetooth, GPS). Sounds like you already do this though. Rogue apps have also been discussed but if awake time != uptime then that's usually not the case.
As also prevoiously mentioned, it is possible you have a defective battery and should go about getting a new one from them though I'm not sure how that process goes... someone here is bound to know though.
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HTC usually seems to skimp on the battery. It really hurts their reviews but I suppose they can save costs and assume people can always buy an aftermarket battery. I don't agree with it but it's their business.
Anyway, that does sound like abnormally bad battery life, but I have a question - are you in a poor service area? If so, the radio might be working extra hard to acquire a signal. Even when I had my dumb phone Samsung alias (which had decent dumbphone battery life) I would experience complete battery drain if I left it in my poor coverage basement overnight.
Also, when you're browsing the web and such do you use wifi or 3g? I notice that when I continuously surf with 3g the phone starts to get warm, especially in mid-poor coverage areas. When the phone gets hot the battery gets hot, and when the battery gets hot it drains much much quicker. Of course, high power usage generates more heat so I'm inclined to believe our 3g radio consumes way more battery than our wifi radio.
Over the months I've combatted poor battery life by doing the following:
1. Purchase aftermarket batteries. I've fallen into HTC's trap. I bought an evo battery which can last me of 6-7 hours of wifi awake time and 4-5 hours of 3g awake time. I also purchased the extended 2150 battery from Verizon which I can get up to 10 hours of wifi surfing and 5-6 hours of 3g surfing. Back when I was on stock 1300 I would get 3-4 hours wifi surfing and 2-3 hours 3g surfing.
2. Install an undervolted kernel, if you're into that sorta thing. One of the main reasons I'm able to obtain the numbers above is due to my kernel which undervolts the processor. I use adrynalyne's experimental undervolted kernel and it works without a hitch. I use it in conjunction with setcpu so I can have a screen off profile which underclocks the processor to 128-384MHz while I'm not using it. The only caveat to using this kernel is you can only use the conservative CPU governor. This means lower clocked speeds will be preferred as the CPU actively scales itself, and will take longer to ramp up to the higher speeds. But we're talking about maximizing battery life so that isn't necessarily a bad thing.
3. Try to keep screen brightness down, minimize usage of other radios (Bluetooth, GPS). Sounds like you already do this though. Rogue apps have also been discussed but if awake time != uptime then that's usually not the case.
As also prevoiously mentioned, it is possible you have a defective battery and should go about getting a new one from them though I'm not sure how that process goes... someone here is bound to know though.
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My signal is 3 to 4 bars on a 4 bar meter. Can you recommend a good undervolting Sense kernel?
Temp >50c 499/245
Screen off 245/245
Charge/full 998/245
Batt { 25 460/245
Batt [ 50 998/245
Batt{ 100 998/245
All are set to ondemand except charge is perfomance. Looking at this its nothing special but I do get a good charge from this setup
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My signal is 3 to 4 bars on a 4 bar meter. Can you recommend a good undervolting Sense kernel?
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I definitely stand behind adrynalyne's experimental undervolted. You can find a link in the kernel thread on the android development section of this board. He makes a sense and AOSP version. I've tried some of the newer ones like Chad's but I love the longevity and stability of adrynalyne's too much to live with the switch. As aforementioned, if you decide to use setcpu, make sure to only use the conservative governer. Ondemand will cause it to freeze! Otherwise it's rock solid.
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Currently I have cm nightly 12 on my phone with incredikernel 2/27 and having a hard time finding this amaging battery life everyone is talking about.
I have screen brightness down and disable autosync using the power control widget. I have one widget, five icons and one screen. I have smartass governor on with 128/998 settings.
I also am using an extended life China battery. It had decent life with stock sense rom + incredikernel but still was not great.
Is it the battery? Is it my settings? Am I doing something wrong? Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks!
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The batteries im using are 3500mah batteries i bought from ebay. I've been charging them occasionally in a wall charger.
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My guess is that it is your battery. The OEM 1300mah battery that came with the INC is probably better than that crappy no-name brand. I have the stock, used incredikernel and i was able to get almost 2 full days out of it with CM7.
EDIT: saw you have the 3500mah, most likely that is only about 75% of what is advertised. So its probably about 2700mah. How much do you use the phone throughout the day?
Not much... Thru the week it stays in my pocket with screen off.
On the weekends I check dealnews and might get in a few minutes of angry birds... But its nowhere near the claims made of 20-40 hours of moderate use.
Feels like its jumping 3% with every web page.
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I took it off the charger 5 minutes ago, down to 95% and battery usage states 72% is due to the display.
Went in there and turned off animations to see if that helps.
I also found out with clock work install awhile ago, I have an slcd screen. Im assuming they get worse battery life than amoled?
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No change .... now down to 90% and screen has been off.
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It may just be that battery is really horrible. Do you still have your stock battery. Try using that and see the life you get out of it. I just have a feeling, no reason why, but that battery you got is a real dud.
And yes the SLCD screens do use up more power than the AMOLED screens. I don't know if it's that much, I doubt it, maybe try with the stock CM7 kernel and see what kind of life you get?
Bump charging, even if it's only for 20 minutes while you shower and shave and eat breakfast, will really help your battery life all day. I find that if I don't do it I see my battery losing its charge much faster even after it loses its initial 5-10%
Back on my stock battery... turned off or uninstalled everything I can.
I usually leave it on the charger all night while I sleep...
Thinking about returning to stock to see if that helps battery.
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What are your GPS settings? Is network location on? What about wifi is it on? If so what's your sleep policy set to. Both of these settings made my batterty drop like a brick on cm7. Another note have you used spare parts to see what is consuming your battery. Is it partial wake locks or a specific app.
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GPS off
Wifi on when I use it. I've got power control widget on my home screen. Network location is off. Wifi sleep policy is default choice (off when screen off), however I don't typically leave it on.
Haven't been in spare parts but have made it to a usage graph I didn't fully understand.
The usage I see says its all the screen. 72% display.
According to spare parts usage... over last 11m wifi has most battery usage.
Only one app with partial wake and that's craigslist Notifier. Lower than android system however.
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Went back to stock cm7 kernel to see if ondemand governor is any better battery wise.
I'm still seeking this 20 hr's moderate use I keep hearing about.
Incredikernel seems to use more battery in wifi... stock is much lower.
Of course I don't know if this is fact with all the other variables.
I don't think I'm being greedy... just trying to find a setup which will afford me using my phone everyonce in awhile without living on a charger.
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!The display should be around that amount depending on how long its been running. I'm at 74% display and that with 2hr 42m of display on. It consumes the most amount of power of anything on the phone.
I've read a couple threads that cm7 has issues with the wifi sleep options and that it needs to be set to never for best battery life. At first thought it doesn't seem right be it helped me out.
In spare parts under usage stats anything jump out at you as being excessive. I doubt it but it'll let you know if an app is running to much.
Also look at the graph under setting battery if you a seeing a bunch of activity when the display is off then it could just be a lot of emails or something is syncing that we don't know about yet. If the display off and awake lines are close then you've done everything you can to Max out your battery.
At this point I suggest you try to bump charge the phone and then wipe the battery stats from cwm I was having an issue at first with cm7 n12 of my phone only charging to 94%. Maybe you are having a similar issue.
Just for comparison today was a mild day of usuage for me on the stock battery my phone has been on for 11h36m and as I said earlier a little under 3 hours of screen time. My display is around 35% brightness and I have 30% battery left. Also on a side note I'm using the incredikernel 128min and I'm under clocked to 800mhz.
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with kernel 2.6.37.2 cyanogenmod+slayer it last me 24 with moderate phone use
Anybody using one of these 2400mah batteries on their evo?
http://www.amazon.com/Extended-Cell-Phone-Battery-2400/dp/B0040MNJPC
not bad for the price
I just don't see why people get extended batteries when kernels now days are supporting my battery all day dragging on into the mornings.. i guess every phone reacts differently.
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I just don't see why people get extended batteries when kernels now days are supporting my battery all day dragging on into the mornings.. i guess every phone reacts differently.
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pm me where the crap are these battery saving kernals cause all i get is **** and can't find the right link any and all help would be appreciative cause seriously thinking about going to the epic.
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pm me where the crap are these battery saving kernals cause all i get is **** and can't find the right link any and all help would be appreciative cause seriously thinking about going to the epic.
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I've tried all the hottest kernels and battery saving tricks and still average only 8hrs under real world use
Running Evo Deck 1.2.1, display at 12%, couple widgets, data off (using wifi at home) , sync off, and all of that. Underclocked, undervolted too.
Browsing, xda app, etc results in 20% battery usage per hour. Battery consumption is zero at idle, but drops like a rock if i use the phone at all.
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I'm using Seidio 3500mah and enjoying the 5 days no charging. I use my phone mainly for texting/facebooking.
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I've tried all the hottest kernels and battery saving tricks and still average only 8hrs under real world use
Running Evo Deck 1.2.1, display at 12%, couple widgets, data off (using wifi at home) , sync off, and all of that. Underclocked, undervolted too.
Browsing, xda app, etc results in 20% battery usage per hour. Battery consumption is zero at idle, but drops like a rock if i use the phone at all.
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I'm evo deck 1.2.1 with sz 2.2.1
Setcpu at 245/1152 sz governor
Chainfire 3d
Battery calibrated
VM heap at 48
SD card cache set to 8192 on my class six
Brightness on auto
I get 20+ hours of heavy use, xda, music, browsing I'm sixteen so my girlfriend is ALWAYS texting me some pandora, youtube tossed in there
Oh and I'm using a live wallpaper (pixel rain) I keep sync on, gmail hourly everything else daily, weather on the half hour, right now my phone is at 17 hours with 38 percent left.
Under lighter usage ( more pocket time, less texting, less sitting around bored on xda and Facebook )
30 hours is pretty common
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Zac95....I hate you lol.
Maybe my batteries are shot - their health shows "good " though. I have two OEM 1500 batteries that I swap, but I did buy an HTC 2150mAh, just waiting on my battery cover to arrive before I use it.
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Battery calibration is very important, don't know how I lived without it
Setting the VM heap to 48 allows the dalvik garbage collector to run less, improving battery
Chainfire 3d helps with anything graphical, makes home using lwps smoother, games run better etc, also saves battery by making all animations, graphics processing more efficient
If you use apps2sd bumping the cache makes it faster, and more efficient saving battery
Also updating to the latest radios etc, and making sure your prls and profile is up to date is essential, many aosp users, formerly including my self forget about that stuff
I've spent a huge amount of time expirementing with different setups, I think I've found my phones sweet spot
I have loads of friends with rooted evos, mine has the best battery and is typically fastest (chainfire 3d) makes everything snappier
Maybe with all of this info you can test these apps / settings and find your phones sweet spot. Good luck man
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Battery calibration is very important, don't know how I lived without it
Setting the VM heap to 48 allows the dalvik garbage collector to run less, improving battery
Chainfire 3d helps with anything graphical, makes home using lwps smoother, games run better etc, also saves battery by making all animations, graphics processing more efficient
If you use apps2sd bumping the cache makes it faster, and more efficient saving battery
Also updating to the latest radios etc, and making sure your prls and profile is up to date is essential, many aosp users, formerly including my self forget about that stuff
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would love to know what you did exactly and how to do it...need major battery life improvement.
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would love to know what you did exactly and how to do it...need major battery life improvement.
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What would you like to know? I'd love to help. You can pm me if you'd like
My setup is also posted a few posts back.
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Since I'm stock for now, my battery sucks.
thinking of buying this since its apparently the same size as the original.
http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-EVO-4G-EXTE...ltDomain_0&hash=item4aad318894#ht_2377wt_1270
what do you guys think? Can't get a 3500 due to my otterbox case
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Since I'm stock for now, my battery sucks.
thinking of buying this since its apparently the same size as the original.
http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-EVO-4G-EXTE...ltDomain_0&hash=item4aad318894#ht_2377wt_1270
what do you guys think? Can't get a 3500 due to my otterbox case
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I wonder how the mfg pulled that off? My HTC 2150mAh battery is twice as thick as the 1500. I'd bet that that eBay battery will not yield the stated 2100mAh.
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I just bought 2 batteries and a wall charger from amazon, and I just switch out batteries, no more charging or being tied down to a seat
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I'm evo deck 1.2.1 with sz 2.2.1
Setcpu at 245/1152 sz governor
Chainfire 3d
Battery calibrated
VM heap at 48
SD card cache set to 8192 on my class six
Brightness on auto
I get 20+ hours of heavy use, xda, music, browsing I'm sixteen so my girlfriend is ALWAYS texting me some pandora, youtube tossed in there
Oh and I'm using a live wallpaper (pixel rain) I keep sync on, gmail hourly everything else daily, weather on the half hour, right now my phone is at 17 hours with 38 percent left.
Under lighter usage ( more pocket time, less texting, less sitting around bored on xda and Facebook )
30 hours is pretty common
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I'll agree with Zac here,
evo 3d with CM7 nightly, SavagedZen 2.2.1 CFS. removed all the crap i dont use or think they suck the battery down. live wallpaper etc.
InteractiveX governor, 245-1113mhz
No setCPU.
no juice defender
no taskkiller.
no 4g - no gps - no wifi
blutooth ON
3g always ON.
battery calibrated is a must
display set to manual around 33% brightness. but i change it on the fly (swipe the notif bar).
Now the results are pretty interesting here:
With the stock battery and all the above; if the reception is good, i can go for 2 days with moderate usage. yes i know i night i sleep, so it idles nicely.
If the signal is not so good, it will destroy the battery, and can't really get anything more than 13hours.
My typical use:
unplug at 10am.
use the phone normally.
plug it back in at midnight that night, and i would have between 35% or up to 67% battery left in the phone, depending on the factors mentioned.
Which to me, going all day is all i wanted before i started tweaking. Mission accomplished.
The quality of the reception is a killer, i'll tell you.
I bought a 3500mah battery from the same company, and it is trash.
are there any extended batteries that fit in an otterbox commuter case?
I've been using CyanogenMOD 7 and love it (mostly). The one thing I don’t like about it is the short battery life. I'm kind of new to rooting phones so it took me a bit to get it rooted and get CM7 rolling. I was wondering if there are any mods out there like CM7 that have better battery life? Or if there's any thing I can add to CM7 to give it more batter life?
I've been using android since the first phone came out so I’m already knowledgeable in what to turn off to try and extend the battery life, but I have noticed a big decrees in batter since installing CM7.
Thanks for the help guys
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You can under clock the processor when your phone is asleep. This creates better battery life.
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Have you tried wiping battery stats?
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You can under clock the processor when your phone is asleep. This creates better battery life.
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your phone automatically underclocks your processor when it sleeps (for most CPU governors), you do not need to tell it to do so.
I'm not picking on you fyi, I'm just making sure we are giving people accurate information... there's only one thing worse than no information: incorrect/incomplete information.
op: which version of CM7 are you running? remember, the more minimal your setup (ie less homescreens, less widgets, manual syncing of gmail and whatever else, etc) the better your battery life will be. this is especially true of newer phones that are getting heftier cpu & gpus that, while intelligent with power consumption, are going to drain even larger capacity batteries relatively quick with moderate/heavy usage.
how long are we talking with battery life? how heavy a user are you? for reference, I get around 16 hours of battery life if I don't charge the phone at all from unplugging to battery dying with moderate to heavy usage (texting ~50 times a day, sometimes up to 100 emails depending on what's happening at work, couple hours of calls, couple hours of streaming music [pandora or audiogalaxy], couple of hours of games [peggle and plants v zombies mostly - both of which are resource hogs], etc).
I have just learned to get used to the fact that the phone is going to die if I use it a lot, so I've purchased three micro-usb cables and a car charger.. that way, unless I'm in an area where there is no charge-capable usb port nearby, I'm always able to get a little more juice if need be.
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your phone automatically underclocks your processor when it sleeps (for most CPU governors), you do not need to tell it to do so.
I'm not picking on you fyi, I'm just making sure we are giving people accurate information... there's only one thing worse than no information: incorrect/incomplete information.
op: which version of CM7 are you running? remember, the more minimal your setup (ie less homescreens, less widgets, manual syncing of gmail and whatever else, etc) the better your battery life will be. this is especially true of newer phones that are getting heftier cpu & gpus that, while intelligent with power consumption, are going to drain even larger capacity batteries relatively quick with moderate/heavy usage.
how long are we talking with battery life? how heavy a user are you? for reference, I get around 16 hours of battery life if I don't charge the phone at all from unplugging to battery dying with moderate to heavy usage (texting ~50 times a day, sometimes up to 100 emails depending on what's happening at work, couple hours of calls, couple hours of streaming music [pandora or audiogalaxy], couple of hours of games [peggle and plants v zombies mostly - both of which are resource hogs], etc).
I have just learned to get used to the fact that the phone is going to die if I use it a lot, so I've purchased three micro-usb cables and a car charger.. that way, unless I'm in an area where there is no charge-capable usb port nearby, I'm always able to get a little more juice if need be.
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but i also mean setting the max sleep to 368mhz. by default its set at 800mhz. sometimes with apps running in the background, the processor may go to 800mhz without you knowing
check out 'powersave' and set your cpu max to 806mhz. should last you a nice long time like that. responsiveness suffers, of course.
'ondemand' and 806mhz is the best comprimise for me. still fine with HDvideo recording, streaming audio, Nav, etc
if you really want to make it last... clock down to 400mhz, turn off all the sync, set brightness and timeout to minimum, all the radios off (airplane mode), and the volume down, on vibrate.
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pmcqueen said:
your phone automatically underclocks your processor when it sleeps (for most CPU governors), you do not need to tell it to do so.
I'm not picking on you fyi, I'm just making sure we are giving people accurate information... there's only one thing worse than no information: incorrect/incomplete information.
op: which version of CM7 are you running? remember, the more minimal your setup (ie less homescreens, less widgets, manual syncing of gmail and whatever else, etc) the better your battery life will be. this is especially true of newer phones that are getting heftier cpu & gpus that, while intelligent with power consumption, are going to drain even larger capacity batteries relatively quick with moderate/heavy usage.
how long are we talking with battery life? how heavy a user are you? for reference, I get around 16 hours of battery life if I don't charge the phone at all from unplugging to battery dying with moderate to heavy usage (texting ~50 times a day, sometimes up to 100 emails depending on what's happening at work, couple hours of calls, couple hours of streaming music [pandora or audiogalaxy], couple of hours of games [peggle and plants v zombies mostly - both of which are resource hogs], etc).
I have just learned to get used to the fact that the phone is going to die if I use it a lot, so I've purchased three micro-usb cables and a car charger.. that way, unless I'm in an area where there is no charge-capable usb port nearby, I'm always able to get a little more juice if need be.
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But some govenors don't drop the sleep to the lowest profile. In fact almost all keep it above the lowest clock. Other kernels allow it and you can also use third party to set it lower. When the tweaKr script becomes universal it will be even better =)
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check out 'powersave' and set your cpu max to 806mhz. should last you a nice long time like that. responsiveness suffers, of course.
'ondemand' and 806mhz is the best comprimise for me. still fine with HDvideo recording, streaming audio, Nav, etc
if you really want to make it last... clock down to 400mhz, turn off all the sync, set brightness and timeout to minimum, all the radios off (airplane mode), and the volume down, on vibrate.
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It suffers in powersave because it stays at the lowest setting only. No reason to set to 806. Lol and that bottom comment is hella funny =), but if he does that his phone will just be...a waste of pocket space.
Your best bet is to do some research on kernels. If you are using cm7 to cm 7.0.3 id recommened pyros kernel. If you are on 7.1 or a nightly over 121 I believe id go with eugene's streamline5. It did wonders for mine Also there is a battery saving tips. Google G2 battery saving tips. Should be first link that comes up.
Cyanogenmod roms are known to be battery hungry. Nom nom nom.
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cjward23 said:
Have you tried wiping battery stats?
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I used the battery califration app if that's what you mean.
Thanks for all the help guys, i'll check out some Kernals.
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Your best bet is to do some research on kernels. If you are using cm7 to cm 7.0.3 id recommened pyros kernel.
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Do you have link for this? I'm running 7.0.3.. but I dont think im finding the correct Kernal.
Mugen 3600mah = better battery life...
Can you elaborate on what kind of battery life you are getting now? How many hours, and for what level of usage?
How long have you been on CM? It takes a couple charge cycles of the battery after flash any ROM, for the battery meter to be accurate. Clear battery stats (as mentioned) then charge to 100%, let drain to about 20%, repeat a couple times. Don't drain until the phone dies. Some people say to do this, and its not good advice. Over discharge of Li ion batteries can cause them to no longer take a charge. There are people on here, on the Vision and other phones, that let their battery drain to empty, then the phone would no longer boot, forcing them to replace the battery.
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Mugen 3600mah = better battery life...
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It has good battery life but the battery sticks out a lot and its very uncomfortable
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evilcuber said:
It has good battery life but the battery sticks out a lot and its very uncomfortable
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Yup its all opinionated. I would never go back to stock.
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Do you have link for this? I'm running 7.0.3.. but I dont think im finding the correct Kernal.
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Currently running Jedi x11, and have had if for about a week now in order to test if there are infact major improvements.
I never really sat down with a timer and timed how long it took my phone to deplete, or charge, so I won't have an exact time duration for these, but I can confidently say, that since I got Jedi x11 on here, two things have started to happen.
1) Battery takes a very extended time in recharging. Both when in use, and set aside. - Previously, my battery would fully charge anywhere from 1 1/2 - 2 hours from about 15%.
2) My battery is depleting ridiculously fast. I type fairly fast, I'd say about avarage, and just for an example, I started this thread at 93%, and at this very moment, it's now at 91%... Even when not in use, the battery seems to deplete at a much faster rate. Tethering is also very draining now. - Previously, again, never timed it, but I am sure by the constant use of my phone that I've had for some time now, that this wasn't ever the case before.
This is just my observations: It would seem Jedi helps when the phone isn't in use. I'm not sure if this mentioned CPU sleeper helps with that or not, it's hard to tell as like I said, the battery goes down even when no major screen time is in use. Maybe it's something I have to turn on? Maybe not. Another, observation, when I am actively using the phone the battery will drop fast. Like, double fast.
And lastly, I observe the battery life will stay on a certain percentage longer than it does others. (Currently 89%) I took about 10 - 15 minutes writing this.
Any thoughts? Thanks for any replies I do get.
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IDCAA said:
Currently running Jedi x11, and have had if for about a week now in order to test if there are infact major improvements.
I never really sat down with a timer and timed how long it took my phone to deplete, or charge, so I won't have an exact time duration for these, but I can confidently say, that since I got Jedi x11 on here, two things have started to happen.
1) Battery takes a very extended time in recharging. Both when in use, and set aside. - Previously, my battery would fully charge anywhere from 1 1/2 - 2 hours from about 15%.
2) My battery is depleting ridiculously fast. I type fairly fast, I'd say about avarage, and just for an example, I started this thread at 93%, and at this very moment, it's now at 91%... Even when not in use, the battery seems to deplete at a much faster rate. Tethering is also very draining now. - Previously, again, never timed it, but I am sure by the constant use of my phone that I've had for some time now, that this wasn't ever the case before.
This is just my observations: It would seem Jedi helps when the phone isn't in use. I'm not sure if this mentioned CPU sleeper helps with that or not, it's hard to tell as like I said, the battery goes down even when no major screen time is in use. Maybe it's something I have to turn on? Maybe not. Another, observation, when I am actively using the phone the battery will drop fast. Like, double fast.
And lastly, I observe the battery life will stay on a certain percentage longer than it does others. (Currently 89%) I took about 10 - 15 minutes writing this.
Any thoughts? Thanks for any replies I do get.
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I'm glad I'm not the only one with this problem on this rom. Phone takes 9 hrs to fully charge, I was starting to think I'm going crazy. My battery will charge fast if I go back to stock. But I would hate to go back because of this.
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Well guys, I'm not sure what's going on, but, it should be noted. The Battery on this thing just lasted the entire evening from last night (7pm) up until now, with about the same amount of use that I did the days before when I noticed abnormal battery depletion.
Currently at 47% and I've yet to charge the phone. Of course that is with the fact that I put the phone in airplane mode while I sleep for a few hours. I watched a lot of video, listened to audio, and it's as if they thing knew I wasn't pleased with what was happening, it's now behaving like it should.
This happened a few days ago also, where the battery lasted 16 hours and was at 27%. So this leads me to think it's something that happens on and off, and I have no clue what triggers it. phone ussage rains the same. Took about 5-7 minutes writing this, and the battery marker only went from 47%, to 46%.
Credit where it's due.
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Still.
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a lot of factors involved when it comes to battery. based on my experience, try to see what's going on with your system using this thread. noted post 1-3. also investigate about your kernel. i am using perseus kernel and my charging time is pretty good improving than on stock :good:. also i can undervolt CPU.
where you at and which service provide you use, again, have impact on this case. i used to be with t-mo and now trying h2o (att mvno) and my battery is dropping faster when i use data. i believe since at&t coverage is suck where i am at, specially when indoors, thus phone radio has to work extra harder to get reception and shorten battery's life.
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a lot of factors involved when it comes to battery. based on my experience, try to see what's going on with your system using this thread. noted post 1-3. also investigate about your kernel. i am using perseus kernel and my charging time is pretty good improving than on stock :good:. also i can undervolt CPU.
where you at and which service provide you use, again, have impact on this case. i used to be with t-mo and now trying h2o (att mvno) and my battery is dropping faster when i use data. i believe since at&t coverage is suck where i am at, specially when indoors, thus phone radio has to work extra harder to get reception and shorten battery's life.
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In the early days of Android CPUs were not very efficient. Undervolting helped battery life. That is no longer the case. Most good kernel devs will tell you they hate under clocking because it has a placebo effect and makes their kernel unstable.
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In the early days of Android CPUs were not very efficient. Undervolting helped battery life. That is no longer the case. Most good kernel devs will tell you they hate under clocking because it has a placebo effect and makes their kernel unstable.
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thanks ronnie. it's good to know. wondering why some of them (well known, i believe) still offering CPU voltage adjustment (up & down) if they see it inefficient ? is it because the kernel still in beta thus come with tweak utility ?
Yeah, there is definitely something awkward going on. I took my phone out of airplane mode this morning and started viewing FB for a couple minutes; a battery that was at 98% is now somehow at 92%. It's definitely on and off. I wasn't even watching any videos or anything like that.
Would all the apps that are in ram be sucking juices this badly? I had to terminate a lot of em just a minute ago. Or, is this thing somehow giving me a false charge reading? Battery seemed to charge faster than usual last night.
I'm not even fully certain the devs read these question forums at times.
I'm runnng the international XXDMB6 based ROM on mine and currently, I'm at 76% with only an hour and 3 minutes of screentime?
I don't use Wi-Fi.
My LTE signal is rather poor.
My screen generally stays around 50% but it's on auto.
Of course I let my apps sync. But that's pretty much just gmail and facebook.
I have my weather set to sync once every hour.
I uninstalled the apps that are pretty much bloat (flipfonts, the hubs, the samsung live wallpapers, musicFX since I use DPSManager, Samsung's music app and that's all I can think of)
I'm running Perseus's kernel with about 200-350mV undervolts.
Is it truly the poor LTE signal that's taking such a toll on my battery life? I used to average 5-5.5 hours before my battery dies. Now I'm betting I'll only get around 4. When I had Verizon, the power draw from LTE was unnoticeable from 3G. Is it really that different on GSM phones?
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I'm runnng the international XXDMB6 based ROM on mine and currently, I'm at 76% with only an hour and 3 minutes of screentime?
I don't use Wi-Fi.
My LTE signal is rather poor.
My screen generally stays around 50% but it's on auto.
Of course I let my apps sync. But that's pretty much just gmail and facebook.
I have my weather set to sync once every hour.
I uninstalled the apps that are pretty much bloat (flipfonts, the hubs, the samsung live wallpapers, musicFX since I use DPSManager, Samsung's music app and that's all I can think of)
I'm running Perseus's kernel with about 200-350mV undervolts.
Is it truly the poor LTE signal that's taking such a toll on my battery life? I used to average 5-5.5 hours before my battery dies. Now I'm betting I'll only get around 4. When I had Verizon, the power draw from LTE was unnoticeable from 3G. Is it really that different on GSM phones?
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Battery life is very noticable with lte. Reason being that volte doesnt exsist yet so two or more radios jeed to be active at the same time.
Im suprised you couldnt tell a difference on verizon, it was night and day for me.
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I found Battery Drain Analyzer helpful. I kept it running for a couple of months and was able to determine which apps consume the most power (widgets, by far). But, after having spent hours trying different underclocking configurations without success, I ended up buying three extra batteries. It's really awesome to not have to worry about it. I just keep them in my pocket and swap them out as needed. It's not a very technologically advanced solution, but, it sure is effective. I use this Charger for the spares. It takes a long time to charge the batteries, but charges them fully to 100%, whereas, charging the battery in the phone doesn't seem to work as well.