Ok since i have hdmi out on my galaxy nexus i tried downloading some 720p movies to it. The download for the 3 and 6gb ones didn't even started (aTorrent), the only one i managed to download and save was under 1gb.
Are there some limitations of the file system or other problem with big files?
Fking1 said:
Ok since i have hdmi out on my galaxy nexus i tried downloading some 720p movies to it. The download for the 3 and 6gb ones didn't even started (aTorrent), the only one i managed to download and save was under 1gb.
Are there some limitations of the file system or other problem with big files?
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I may be wrong, I believe the phone has an ext3 disk format, which means the max file size is 16GB. If it's ext4, then you could fill the entire user partition with one file and be (theoretically) fine.
I suggest you sideload the file from a PC rather than directly OTA. Either your torrent app can't handle something this big, or something is timing out.
I dont know about downloading, but i have sideloaded a 4gb movie on it, plays fine.
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I may be wrong, I believe the phone has an ext3 disk format, which means the max file size is 16GB. If it's ext4, then you could fill the entire user partition with one file and be (theoretically) fine.
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As I understand it it's ext 4, but since the free space on a brand new phone is 11.3Gb that's probably irrelevant.
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When i tried to download 6gb movie today the torrent application said that android doesn't support files larger than 4gb at the moment.
I believe this was the case with the fat32 file system, but i'm with galaxy nexus with 16GB build in memory, so i find it hard to believe it's still with the archaic fat32? Actually what's it's file system and if the reason is somewhere else can it be fixed?
Fking1 said:
When i tried to download 6gb movie today the torrent application said that android doesn't support files larger than 4gb at the moment.
I believe this was the case with the fat32 file system, but i'm with galaxy nexus with 16GB build in memory, so i find it hard to believe it's still with the archaic fat32? Actually what's it's file system and if the reason is somewhere else can it be fixed?
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Im just guessing here but the files are saved to your memory card. So if thats FAT32 then yeah 4GB would be your limit, you should check that first I guess
It depends entirely on the file system used on the SD card. Most SD cards are formatted Fat32, which has a file size limit of 4GB. However, on Galaxy Nexus, I believe the "SD card" is using ext3, which has a file size limitation 16GB (when using 1KB blocks). I can say with absolutely certainty that I have copied over files as large as 9GB to my Galaxy Nexus successfully.
The file system is ext4, the 'sdcard' is virtual - it's a directory on the main partition, not a seperate partition (that's why UMS isn't supported).
AFAIK no flavour of linux or unix uses fat32.
Dunno why your system won't let you go over 4Gb, it may be an error in your torrent app, or maybe its setup assumes all sdcards are fat32 and isn't actually checking...
Yeah that seems to be the most logical reason, thank you guys for the input.
Why did that thread stop there? I need to know which torrent client you are using lol. If it's the torrent client then try other ones right? Why are you currently using?
Also, i heard that changing the kernel might be the solution to the problem if it really isn't the torrent client. I wish i could elaborate more but i unfortunately don't understand what it does per say
I just took the SanDisk 64GB Class 10 microSD out from my Galaxy Note II, and put it in my new S4 and.....
"Damaged SD card - SD card is damaged. Try reformatting it."
Before I reformat it to Fat32, I'm curious to see if anyone else is coming from a Note II and putting their card directly into the S4.
btw: The S4 is freakin' awesome. One heckva phone...
UPDATE: Ok so I just decided to reformat it through the phone when it prompted me to do so. Then I went back into Settings -> Storage, and wiped it again a few times...all seems good so far...
no need to reformat it yet.
stick it in a PC & use CMD
then run this command: scandsk -r -f <drive letter> to fix it
I would back up all your data after you fix it first then format using the phone or from the PC. I would just stick for exFAT but the choice is yours.
RMXO said:
no need to reformat it yet.
stick it in a PC & use CMD
then run this command: scandsk -r -f <drive letter> to fix it
I would back up all your data after you fix it first then format using the phone or from the PC. I would just stick for exFAT but the choice is yours.
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I put in my 64gb formatted to fat32 worked fine, I'm wondering does this work with non fat32 like how they come factory formatted?
That's a great question. When I received my SanDisk, I put it straight into my Note II and it worked awesome. The stock format, if I remember correctly is exFat. Now I'm debating whether I should do what RMXO said and run the command so that I can run exFAT, which I prefer over fat32....
hhmmm...
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I put in my 64gb formatted to fat32 worked fine, I'm wondering does this work with non fat32 like how they come factory formatted?
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Why NOT to use FAT32 for 64GB cards.
There are two disadvantages to using FAT32 vs exFAT or NTFS
1. The largest file size in FAT32 is 4GB. If you will never have files bigger than this, then it is not a problem. But note, even with H.264 compression 1080P video files are, best case estimate, approximately 8-20mb/minute. That would yield approx 480MB/Hour to 1.2GB/Hour, Your mileage may vary.
2. The physical size of a single directory is limited to 65,535 characters. If you are using file names with an average size of 20 characters, this allows for approx 3000 files per directory. However, if you are using file names with an average of 50 characters (look that the file names used by Titanium Backup) and each directory will max out at 1000 files. Remember that in addition to the file name, there is additional information stored in every directory entry (e.g. Time, Date, Permissions, file size, file location, etc.).
Thanks for the info. Very refreshing.
It's definite that the S4 can handle exFat...any work around on a Mac?
ChitownWingMan said:
There are two disadvantages to using FAT32 vs exFAT or NTFS
1. The largest file size in FAT32 is 4GB. If you will never have files bigger than this, then it is not a problem. But note, even with H.264 compression 1080P video files are, best case estimate, approximately 8-20mb/minute. That would yield approx 480MB/Hour to 1.2GB/Hour, Your mileage may vary.
2. The physical size of a single directory is limited to 65,535 characters. If you are using file names with an average size of 20 characters, this allows for approx 3000 files per directory. However, if you are using file names with an average of 50 characters (look that the file names used by Titanium Backup) and each directory will max out at 1000 files. Remember that in addition to the file name, there is additional information stored in every directory entry (e.g. Time, Date, Permissions, file size, file location, etc.).
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RMXO said:
no need to reformat it yet.
stick it in a PC & use CMD
then run this command: scandsk -r -f <drive letter> to fix it
I would back up all your data after you fix it first then format using the phone or from the PC. I would just stick for exFAT but the choice is yours.
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Ive had the same problem and formating it to fat 32 or exfat doesmt work, it craches once i have more than 20GB of files on it. Will your method fix that? Thank you
Edengard said:
Ive had the same problem and formating it to fat 32 or exfat doesmt work, it craches once i have more than 20GB of files on it. Will your method fix that? Thank you
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That command fixes corrupted sdcards but u can try. Run the command first then reformat the card.
What OS are u formatting under? Let me find you a free partitioner & its called Mini Tool Partioner Home Basic.
I would run chkdsk -r -f <drive letter>, check to see if u can access it then format it with mini tool partitioner & then use the PC to format exFAT.
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Maybe formatting it using Gparted on a Linux box will work.
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Will this work.. ?!
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I need to retrieve my data from my fone..can you be more clear with the procedures , Pl
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Hello folks, long time reader first time poster here.
I was looking around on the net and I'm unable to solve a bizzare issue with USB otg. I have a rooted but stock nexus 7 2nd version, and can use USB otg fine I guess, but here's the problem.
No matter what the size of said USB pen, it's always registered as the same size as the tablet storage. I can't understand this at all and nobody seems to have had this problem so far as I can tell. Done various formatting with apps but its always 12gb like the internal SD. Any advice would be very welcome as I'd very much like to use all of my space on a USB stick haha
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Hello folks, long time reader first time poster here.
I was looking around on the net and I'm unable to solve a bizzare issue with USB otg. I have a rooted but stock nexus 7 2nd version, and can use USB otg fine I guess, but here's the problem.
No matter what the size of said USB pen, it's always registered as the same size as the tablet storage. I can't understand this at all and nobody seems to have had this problem so far as I can tell. Done various formatting with apps but its always 12gb like the internal SD. Any advice would be very welcome as I'd very much like to use all of my space on a USB stick haha
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Are u using stickmount?
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Are u using stickmount?
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Yes I am, is it a well known issue then, I assume from your asking? I seem to have found a way around it, so long as I move nothing more than about 3gb a go. No moving folders of many items
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Yes I am, is it a well known issue then, I assume from your asking? I seem to have found a way around it, so long as I move nothing more than about 3gb a go. No moving folders of many items
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I also use stickmount app, it would not show in the storage in settings on stock rom but on a custom rom since they have enabled that feature by default and kernel should support that feature to make it native, they have it under the storage settings but when using stickmount u will see that the misc storage increases and if u click on that u will find usb storage.
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I also use stickmount app, it would not show in the storage in settings on stock rom but on a custom rom since they have enabled that feature by default it has it under the storage settings but when using stickmount u will see that the misc storage increases and other things does increase.
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Always says the same storage as the SD, but at least I can use the whole 64gb a couple GB at a time. Just seems to be an error in the system not detecting size beyond 12GB. So as soon as you move a folder of various videos, for example, at say a total of 6gb, it'll scream "noooo not enough space!". But if I do file by file its totally fine. Oh well
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Always says the same storage as the SD, but at least I can use the whole 64gb a couple GB at a time. Just seems to be an error in the system not detecting size beyond 12GB. So as soon as you move a folder of various videos, for example, at say a total of 6gb, it'll scream "noooo not enough space!". But if I do file by file its totally fine. Oh well
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I haven't tried to copy a big file such as 6gb but I use my 16gb pendrive with it and it works fine mainly I copy my nandroid backups of around 2-3 gb. Try a different file browser maybe a problem with that btw Can u tell me what is the file format and size of a single file not a folder and also have u fomatted ur sd card in ntfs or fat 32
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I haven't tried to copy a big file such as 6gb but I use my 16gb pendrive with it and it works fine mainly I copy my nandroid backups of around 2-3 gb. Try a different file browser maybe a problem with that btw Can u tell me what is the file format and size of a single file not a folder and also have u fomatted ur sd card in ntfs or fat 32
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Well it was a folder of a selection of files like I said before. About 1 to 2gb videos, my USB pen is 64gb and fat32 format right now as it seems to work the best. ES file explorer is the file browser I use. Like I said at the start, so far as I can tell, I can use all 64gb just fine but only 12 is "registered" as being available, same size as the onboard SD. So long as I move things in 1 to 2gb amounts its fine. Try to do multiple files or one big file and its "No space left"
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Well it was a folder of a selection of files like I said before. About 1 to 2gb videos, my USB pen is 64gb and fat32 format right now as it seems to work the best. ES file explorer is the file browser I use. Like I said at the start, so far as I can tell, I can use all 64gb just fine but only 12 is "registered" as being available, same size as the onboard SD. So long as I move things in 1 to 2gb amounts its fine. Try to do multiple files or one big file and its "No space left"
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I use solid explorer, can u try with that & also a different pendrive.If even then also the problem is there
Go to this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-nexus/themes-apps/02-11-2013-stickmount-v2-30-t1400034 and report here with screen shots.
Hi. I got my tablet not long ago. But I have some issues with sd card and video. It behaves strange. Sometimes i can't play even regular video files on sd. Even same video file. It shows cant be played, even with different players. And i cant download files from torrents on sd. What can be a problem? Thank you.
I have sd samsung pro 64gb class 10.
Have you rooted and thus full access to the sdcard?
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Have you rooted and thus full access to the sdcard?
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No I didnt.
I am also new to the Android world but I think this is the problem. Google denies read write access to the SD card for non-Google apps, like file explorers or video players. Would be great if someone else can confirm
Sometimes i can't play even regular video files on sd. Even same video file. It shows cant be played, even with different players. And i cant download files from torrents on sd. Wh
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I guess your video files are corrupted. that usually happens with unfinished torrent's files. double check their integrity.
you just can't dwld directly to SD without root. use internal memory instead and move files to SD when finished and you'll be fine.
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I fixed my sd card read and write problems even though I dont have an sd card... I really need to get one!
aldrighi said:
I guess your video files are corrupted. that usually happens with unfinished torrent's files. double check their integrity.
you just can't dwld directly to SD without root. use internal memory instead and move files to SD when finished and you'll be fine.
I tried. I mean i downloaded a video file to internal memory, it played. When i moved to SD card it stopped playing. Even when i moved back to internal
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are you sure you have formated the sd in fat? have you tested your sd working in other device? wich size of files you're talking about? Gbs per file?
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aldrighi said:
are you sure you have formated the sd in fat? have you tested your sd working in other device? wich size of files you're talking about? Gbs per file?
I formatted it on my tablet. I hope it did in right way. I didnt check on other devices. File size from 1gb to 2.5. Btw, I downloaded straight to sd card from PC a hole show season, about 9gb, avi format, when i just bought sd, and it works. All others video files in different formats doesnt play. I tried even to download from PC straight to SD card using PC sd adapter. Nothing.
P.S. File system exFAT on sd. Checked on pc
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And it looks like I cant root the tablet, because i have T807V 4G. I couldnt find any root methods for that model.
That's really very strange and I am running out of leads. last thing I would consider is to format the SD using sd format tool as regular fat. but it's just a shot.
try to get another sd just to eliminate possibility of device's fault.
hope anybody can spot what we are missing here.
I am not awared about rooting cause I'm looking for a knox 0 way. check cf-auto root thread and an expert user would help you.
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I can't figure out how to get around the 4GB file size restriction on the Pixel 3. I never had any problems using an exFAT file system on external hard drives/USB drives on previous phones.
It seems that if I attempt to use exFAT or NTFS file systems on my drives, the Pixel will not recognize it, format it back to FAT32, and I'm back at square one.
I've tried to wirelessly transfer files from PC to phone through Portal, using the external drive as the storage device, but that didn't work either.
double0psycho said:
I can't figure out how to get around the 4GB file size restriction on the Pixel 3. I never had any problems using an exFAT file system on external hard drives/USB drives on previous phones.
It seems that if I attempt to use exFAT or NTFS file systems on my drives, the Pixel will not recognize it, format it back to FAT32, and I'm back at square one.
I've tried to wirelessly transfer files from PC to phone through Portal, using the external drive as the storage device, but that didn't work either.
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??? I have a 128 gb USB c thumb drive formatted fat32. It's working fine on my pixel 3.
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I can get FAT32 to work. But FAT32 limits file sizes to less than 4GB. I'm trying to have larger movie files on a USB drive to watch on a long trip. Can't put them on a FAT32 formatted drive because they're way too large. And Pixel doesn't support exFAT or NTFS.
I'm trying to find a way around this, unless I really just have to resort to splitting all of the files into smaller segments. Was hoping not to have to do that though.
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I can get FAT32 to work. But FAT32 limits file sizes to less than 4GB. I'm trying to have larger movie files on a USB drive to watch on a long trip. Can't put them on a FAT32 formatted drive because they're way too small. And Pixel doesn't support exFAT or NTFS.
I'm trying to find a way around this, unless I really just have to resort to splitting all of the files into smaller segments. Was hoping not to have to do that though.
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Windows artificially limits fat32 to 32 gb so if that's all you need it should format it fine. If you need more there are 3rd party apps or you can do it in a windows power shell running as administrator. In a power shell use format /FS:FAT32 X:. Where X: is the drive letter of the device you're formatting.
Edit, you know what. I miss understood your question. I was thinking partition size not file size. Sorry about that.
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jd1639 said:
Windows artificially limits fat32 to 32 gb so if that's all you need it should format it fine. If you need more there are 3rd party apps or you can do it in a windows power shell running as administrator. In a power shell use format /FS:FAT32 X:. Where X: is the drive letter of the device you're formatting.
Edit, you know what. I miss understood your question. I was thinking partition size not file size. Sorry about that.
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Yeah, realized I said small when I meant the file sizes are too large. Either way, I'm hoping to find a way to get my pixel to be able to "see" some 8GB or larger files on an external storage device. I've used a couple apps that said they allow read/write NTFS and exFAT file systems, but none have really worked.
I'm just passing through, I don't own a pixel. But normally you need a kernel that supports either ntfs or exfat or both. I saw there are 2 kernels in the development section. Have you tried those?
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I can't figure out how to get around the 4GB file size restriction on the Pixel 3. I never had any problems using an exFAT file system on external hard drives/USB drives on previous phones.
It seems that if I attempt to use exFAT or NTFS file systems on my drives, the Pixel will not recognize it, format it back to FAT32, and I'm back at square one.
I've tried to wirelessly transfer files from PC to phone through Portal, using the external drive as the storage device, but that didn't work either.
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FAT32 and exFAT are not the same type of filesystem.
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I can get FAT32 to work. But FAT32 limits file sizes to less than 4GB. I'm trying to have larger movie files on a USB drive to watch on a long trip. Can't put them on a FAT32 formatted drive because they're way too large. And Pixel doesn't support exFAT or NTFS.
I'm trying to find a way around this, unless I really just have to resort to splitting all of the files into smaller segments. Was hoping not to have to do that though.
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FAT32 is working as it should be.
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Windows artificially limits fat32 to 32 gb so if that's all you need it should format it fine. If you need more there are 3rd party apps or you can do it in a windows power shell running as administrator. In a power shell use format /FS:FAT32 X:. Where X: is the drive letter of the device you're formatting.
Edit, you know what. I miss understood your question. I was thinking partition size not file size. Sorry about that.
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It is not an "artificial" limit. This is how FAT32 was designed to work.
double0psycho said:
Yeah, realized I said small when I meant the file sizes are too large. Either way, I'm hoping to find a way to get my pixel to be able to "see" some 8GB or larger files on an external storage device. I've used a couple apps that said they allow read/write NTFS and exFAT file systems, but none have really worked.
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Those apps never work without root. Even with root, they're still finicky.
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I'm just passing through, I don't own a pixel. But normally you need a kernel that supports either ntfs or exfat or both. I saw there are 2 kernels in the development section. Have you tried those?
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As stated here, a custom kernel with exFAT support is your best option.
Please read up on filesystems here.
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bxlegend said:
FAT32 and exFAT are not the same type of filesystem.
It is not an "artificial" limit. This is how FAT32 was designed to work.
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I agree to a point. It was designed to work that way since Microsoft is pushing NTFS for larger partitions. You can certainly have FAT32 partitions larger than 32 gb.
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I agree to a point. It was designed to work that way since Microsoft is pushing NTFS for larger partitions. You can certainly have FAT32 partitions larger than 32 gb.
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Let's be careful here because you're confusing file size with partition size. Microsoft is not "pushing" one filesystem over another. The FAT32 filesystem had too many limits for servers which is why Microsoft introduced NTFS. As consumer needs grew, NTFS was made the default for Windows filesystem. The same applies to removable flash storage. To get consumers and manufacturers away from FAT32, Microsoft created exFAT. Microsoft, Apple, and Google are all competitors and they all have default supported filesystems. Microsoft and Apple user proprietary filesystems while Google sticks with open source since it's patent free. Which is why Pixel phones do not support Microsoft and Apple filesystems by default.
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I can't figure out how to get around the 4GB file size restriction on the Pixel 3. I never had any problems using an exFAT file system on external hard drives/USB drives on previous phones.
It seems that if I attempt to use exFAT or NTFS file systems on my drives, the Pixel will not recognize it, format it back to FAT32, and I'm back at square one.
I've tried to wirelessly transfer files from PC to phone through Portal, using the external drive as the storage device, but that didn't work either.
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There are a couple of apps that allow accessing exFAT and NTFS file systems via OTG. Here's one I've used:
https://mixplorer.en.uptodown.com/android
It also allows accessing the files directly, so a slow copy to the phone isn't required for say playing a movie.