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Has anyone seen any benefits in using task killers or managers on the Evo? Has it helped or made battery life worse ? Do we even need them with the Evo ?
in my experience the phone runs smoother if you keep running tasks to a minimum. i have an app called ES Task Manager and it comes with a widget that has one touch kill all. i hit that and turn off the screen when i'm not going to be messing with the phone for awhile.
I used to use Advanced Task Killer (ATK) and loved it until one day my phone would not work whatsoever. It kept force closing HTC Sense and I had to do a hard reset last week. It was very upsetting and the sprint technician said the task killer was to blame.
I agree. I switched from Advanced Task Killer to ES and it's great. Really helps out battery and smoothness. I can get about 12-16 hours per charge when doing that with normal use.
What's ES?
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I use Damage Control 3.2.2.1 with its built in killer set at 150 MB with Advanced Settings Part 2 Laptop_OOM activated and JIT. Banned everything except Facebook.
Then I use autostarts to stop programs from starting up at boot, speeding up boot time and using less power.
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I can usually get about a day and a half of regular use before I reach 10%.
Best tip? Don't use any task killers..
At most use autostarts and thats it.
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I have become an believer in task killers - I use ES ( search market for: estrongs )
Increased battery life and smoothness, just make sure to not have it kill the HTC processes and you'll be good
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Estrongs task manager
Task killers are a bad idea on Android. It's best to just let the OS do its own memory management. The only reason to use a task killer is as a last resort for a rogue app or something like that.
There's a thread about this around here with a detailed explanation as to why this is true and how memory management works in Android. I can't copy and paste because I'm sending this from my phone. And I'm lazy.
Autokiller and autostarts are probably the only two apps that make sense to use and this is to enhance management, not override the built in management like task killers do.
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Ugh this is why I hate the debate.
Some people say use it... some people say Android's memory management is fine.
My ATK usage is simple. I close programs that I do not use and won't start any FC's.
So basically after I'm done playing a game, I use ATK to close out of it.
I leave most things open unless it's like Sprint Zone or something.
I decided to be less lazy for once.
http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
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simply put, if you have any linux experience you'll realize why task killers aren't neccessary like in a windows mobile platform device.
I use ATK. As far as battery life, I haven't seen an increase or decrease, but the phone runs smoother and sometimes an app gets stuck, so I kill that sob off.
Use Autostarts only. It is a permission manager--not a task-killer.
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I decided to be less lazy for once.
http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
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That article is bogus. If you analyze the evidence and the conclusion presented there, it's a non sequitur.
Your mom is a non-sequitur.
That article is a total sequitur xD
You need to be more explicit.
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I tried ATK since the BB Mobile guys were pushing hard for you to install it before you even left the store with the phone. I gave ATK an honest try, and experimented with most of the settings. At the end of the test, I found that ATK didn't really help me. That being said, my battery life is much better now since I moved for the rooted stock image to Fresh 0.3.
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I tried ATK since the BB Mobile guys were pushing hard for you to install it before you even left the store with the phone. I gave ATK an honest try, and experimented with most of the settings. At the end of the test, I found that ATK didn't really help me. That being said, my battery life is much better now since I moved for the rooted stock image to Fresh 0.3.
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Heh, BB Mobile reps always act like they're experts. These guys know less than the average XDA forum reader. They'll have you think otherwise though!
As much as I disliked the idea of not managing my own processes, be it by manually killing them or with some automatic thresholds, after some reading, I decided to let Android handle things as it was designed to do.
To satisfy my itch for being "in control", I downloaded (from the market, for free) an app called MinFreeManager, which allows for you to tweak the parameters for Android's memory management. I also read a suggestion from Flipz to use AutoStarts to better control what apps are starting, and when. AutoStarts basically lists events within Android and allows you to toggle if an app should run or not.
That said, I've noticed my Evo has been very smooth and responsive. I periodically open TaskKiller to see how much available memory there is and to be nosy. The truth is that apps do clean up and are disposed of properly by Android. Give it a shot for a few days. What's the harm?
Can anyone explain the amount of RAM that this phone is suppose to have?
The specs for the phone lists 768 MB. However, the total memory that comes up is 617940 kB.
Thanks.
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Can anyone explain the amount of RAM that this phone is suppose to have?
The specs for the phone lists 768 MB. However, the total memory that comes up is 617940 kB.
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where are you finding this number? i am at 758 MB. since i have a bunch of apps installed, that would seem about right.
How are you guys getting so much free ram? When I check on Task Killer, whenever I kill all the apps I'm not using it usually shows 358 mb ... and programs I'm not using automatically keep running (i.e Maps).
hmm maybe im not checking the right place? i'm getting my 758 mb number from settings--SD and phone storage. the internal phone storage tells me 758mb.
on an unrelated note though, you shouldn't use task killers. they are considered by most to be more of a drain on your battery life as android is already setup to manage closing unused apps on its own.
Many people use the term "memory" to mean system memory as well as storage. I try to avoid calling system storage as "memory" and tend to use "storage" instead, or refer to the type of storage.
Total ram is around 768mb. Part of it is reserved (not sure why, possibly for filesystem caching) so around 603mb is available. For this platform that is a healthy chunk of RAM to work with. Even with my hefty usage I have ~126mb free.
Internal storage is something like 2gb, with it partially consumed by the Android install as well as NAND configuration adjustments for reliability which cause some of the storage space to be consumed through hardware (there's an excellent explanation of this somewhere, don't have a link handy), resulting in about 1.1gb being available. I have 103 apps installed, 523.5mb of the internal storage used, with 638.8mb available.
There was an excellent tool posted on xda (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1066060) called Android Optimizer that gives a lot of good information about memory, storage, cpu usage, etc. I'd recommend checking it out. It's not available on the market and it is a little buggy so use it with a bit of caution if you choose to use any of the optimization functions.
cool. thanks for the explanation nimdae!
There have been so, so, so many posts on this topic that I will not rehash them all here. Instead, I will ask a simple question: For what do you use all that free RAM?
Ask yourself that question, and be serious about it. I think you will find yourself uninstalling your task managers and memory optimizers before long.
Edit: to avoid unnecessary discussion, Watchdog is in fact neither of those, and I would highly recommend it as the only memory app you will ever need.
Edit 2: the total RAM displayed is the RAM that is actually available to be used by anything the user may want to run. As a poster earlier said, the system reserves a certain amount of RAM for its own use to keep important processes moving along. The reserved RAM is not available, and so doesn't appear in total RAM. Unless you want to uninstall the OS. Then you could have access to all 768 MBs.
I would like to reiterate why you should not use automatic task killers.
As of, I believe, Android 2.0, the garbage collection and memory management was significantly improved. However, this was not a new system in Android, it always existed.
How it works:
If you haven't noticed with Android, when you leave an app, it doesn't close it unless the app specifically does something to end the process. This is by design. Android allows the app to remain in memory. Frequently used apps will load faster with this design. A "task" that is not killed and is in the background ONLY consumes memory, it does not "run" (in Linux terms, the process is actually in a "stopped" state so the task can't do anything anyway). Only a "service" can run in the background. Most apps that have long running services have lightweight services.
If an application loads that requires more memory than is available, Android will examine backgrounded tasks for candidates to be killed to free up memory. This makes it so as many tasks as possible can remain in memory for better performance. In understanding this, you should know that if you have a large amount of memory, and memory usage is high, this is a GOOD THING. With the amount of memory in the I2, there is a lot of breathing space for this.
There is one other case where a backgrounded task will be killed: if it has been in the background for a certain period of time without being brought forward. Killing a task to free up memory to load another task can actually be a little cpu expensive (but not THAT much) so this can make it slightly easier.
Please note that backgrounded tasks WILL NOT contribute to battery drain. Only tasks at the front and services will. Killing your backgrounded calculator will do nothing for you other than free that small amount of memory it uses. Used memory does not contribute to extra battery drain as DRAM refreshes happen on ALL cells anyway.
Background services can also be made candidates for being killed. If an app needs more memory than can be made available by killing backgrounded tasks, then services become targets to be killed as well.
Automatic task killers cause a couple of problems. A less major problem is you lose that one benefit you get by keeping tasks in the background: performance. I don't just mean how fast it loads. If it can bring a backgrounded task to the front from memory rather than load from storage, you remove extra processing to load the app, including storage access, that contribute to higher battery drain. The other problem is a poorly configured task killer can break things like notifications.
Managing your services is always a good idea. Having a lot of services running means background processes that are capable of contributing to battery drain. Additionally, there are apps with misbehaving services (services that consume resources or use features they shouldn't). While I'm against automatic task killers, using something to monitor and manage services is a good idea. Just always keep in mind the implications for killing a service: it may affect a feature to an app that you would rather not impact.
Excellent explanation nimdae! Task killers are the devil.
On another note, my posts are getting too long...
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Everything is longer in Texas.
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Everything is longer in Texas.
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That's what s...no, that's too easy.
Move along, nothing to see.
Before I read this I was like a task Nazi. I killed my tasks often, but now I think I will just let them be. Nice write up BTW. Very informative.
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Before I read this I was like a task Nazi. I killed my tasks often, but now I think I will just let them be. Nice write up BTW. Very informative.
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Remember: I'm not saying don't manage things. Poorly behaving services are the #1 cause of high battery drain (at least on non-LTE devices), and this will be even more problematic when you overclock.
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Excellent explanation nimdae! Task killers are the devil.
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I tried not using them and I get better battery life with them...I use it maybe 3 times a day after heavy multi tasking. It's to each their own..but I see results for it..like 5 extra hours.
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I tried not using them and I get better battery life with them...I use it maybe 3 times a day after heavy multi tasking. It's to each their own..but I see results for it..like 5 extra hours.
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If you get that much extra, you have a misbehaving app. Better to get the app developer to fix it or find an alternative.
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If you get that much extra, you have a misbehaving app. Better to get the app developer to fix it or find an alternative.
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True, I don't need to use it often though lol
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I'm in Texas as well.
sent from a phone without root.
I use a task killer only to manually kill an app that freezes or something. Its easier than going to manage applications. I have the autokill disabled.
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I use a task killer only to manually kill an app that freezes or something. Its easier than going to manage applications. I have the autokill disabled.
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CyanogenMod (maybe other ROMs) have a feature to kill a frozen app by holding the back button (long press, whatever). However, this can also be an annoyance on systems where for unknown reasons it registers a long press on a tap (my eris did this a lot).
The title is basically the question, im fed up of alot of programs auto opening on my android phone, it takes battery and is slightly annoying receiving notifications off apps i dont really care about such as the NFL game tells me about small things in the NFL, im in the UK, i dont care.
If you argue that it doesnt take alot of battery currently have 117mb free ram, (2 secs later) killed all my selected apps now have 201mb free so im using 80mb of ram on apps im not using. Ive made 2 or 3 phone calls today no more than 30 mins long altogether and ive lost 55% of my battery since about midday, which is when i unplugged the phone.
And I think all these apps are the problem so how can I stop them from auto opening, please help
Search the market for startup cleaner
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If you argue that it doesnt take alot of battery currently have 117mb free ram
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More free RAM doesn't really equate to longer battery life or lower power consumption.
Better search for auto starts, this asp shows you the conditions an asp can turn back on and you can bin it off, Facebook for example had like 8 conditions, from full to medium battery life, on charge and change in network....... Use it
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More free RAM doesn't really equate to longer battery life or lower power consumption.
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There's still no reason for most of this apps to use RAM. Apps like facebook and skype shouldn't be actice without user permission. Without login they are complete useless.
I'll try Startup Cleaner, thx.
It's how android works and what RAM is for. There is always a reason.
Sure if someone doesn't use Facebook, it should be uninstallable, but its not and its not causing any harm
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The problem isn't that apps start when I turn on the phone its that even after i use task manager to close they keep reopening and use over 100mb of ram, earlier I checked and only had 78mb ram available.
This must have an effect on battery to some degree i want to kinda ban certain apps from running in the background unless i specifically tell them to
RAM doesn't use more power, the more its used, no.
You don't need a task killer. You do not need to obsess about RAM. Forget about RAM and enjoy your phone
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RAM doesn't use more power, the more its used, no.
You don't need a task killer. You do not need to obsess about RAM. Forget about RAM and enjoy your phone
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Thanks for you reply but its not really an answer its more of a contradiction, what I was asking is how to I stop apps from auto starting and eating up RAM, regardless of how long the phones been on
...and I'm telling you its a pointless, unecessary waste of time. Also it is not possible. Autostarts as already mentioned is the closest you'll get
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I also turned off the autorun permissions of a lot of apps, for 2 reasons: 1) a device that is smooth sooner after booting, using less cpu cycles/power. 2) preventing Sense from reloading due to RAM shortage and have smooth multitasking.
1) Android loads a bunch of apps to the RAM that have the autorun permission, until it thinks it is "enough" and useful to you. No matter how many apps you have installed, the amount of free RAM is always about the same, just the number of "unwanted" apps in the RAM differs. Removing the autorun on boot permissions prevents the loading of unnecessary apps that will immediately be removed from the RAM the moment you start the browser/a game, saving cpu cycles=power. So for me there is no point in loading them in the first place, because I am never going to use them (right away). I want the apps that don't to any syncing loaded on demand.
2) I hate slow multitasking and I hate it even more when Sense reloads because it got kicked out of the RAM after each time I press HOME.
I use 3G Watchdog (~12MB RAM), Unlock with Wifi (~8MB), Whatsapp (~15MB), Handcent SMS (~18MB), Droidstats (~13MB), Extended Controls (~12MB), Battery Monitor Widget Pro (~13MB). Okay, I maybe could delete some of them, but these app are "OK" to me, because I use them actively or just need a background service to operate normally.
With Gemini I disabled apps like Facebook, a screenshot tool (just load when I want to make a screenshot..), various public transport planning tools, etc from autostarting.
No joy moment: after using the Facebook app (market version), it may take up 50+ MB and it will not be closed when I start another RAM intensive app, because it is a high priority service. Result: Sense gets kicked out of the RAM. Or, when the situation is somewhat less critical: multitasking is as good as unusable: switching between apps makes them load over and over again, because app2 kicks app1 out of the RAM and vice versa, causing unnecessary lag. Therefore: when I am done with facebook, I close it, then STAY the hell closed It may only autostart when it receives a push message. In that case it is nice to have FB already in RAM when I tap the notification.
Why do even some games have background services, or the Engadget app, or .. , or... all eating precious RAM. And yes, I know, once IN the RAM they eat no battery, but they DO eat battery when the app loads itself back in the RAM when it thinks it needs to, after it got kicked the moment I decided to so something else.
Hmm, spent way too much time to try to explain my frustration Oh and by the way, I have a Legend, but the basics are the same of course.
Dwnload an app called internet commander from the market. It shuts off the internet when your screen turns off but still let's you get calls and texts. I've got my phone , rooted of course, clocked to 710 and my battery will last for days.
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I just re read your post, that won't help with apps but it will help save battery. And when you turn your screen on the internet kicks right on instantly. Good luck
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The problem isn't that apps start when I turn on the phone its that even after i use task manager to close they keep reopening and use over 100mb of ram, earlier I checked and only had 78mb ram available.
This must have an effect on battery to some degree i want to kinda ban certain apps from running in the background unless i specifically tell them to
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The guys here have already suggested you use a certain program from the Market. Have you tried it?
Regarding the whole RAM consumption issue, Android has its own built-in memory management system that ensures that there's always enough RAM for an app whenever it needs it, even if the memory manager shows like 40 MB free. Basically it "ejects" all background, unused apps, from memory making room for the foreground app which needs it most. If for some reason you need to fiddle with that, you can try using the V6 Supercharger script. I find it suitable for my needs but YMMV. It's completely reversible, so if you don't like it you can uninstall it just like that.
P.S. - I agree with rootSU, the ammount of free RAM has nothing to do with battery consumption. If you suspect that an app is draining your battery, check Android's battery statistics to find the culprit.
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Regarding the whole RAM consumption issue, Android has its own built-in memory management system that ensures that there's always enough RAM for an app whenever it needs it, even if the memory manager shows like 40 MB free. Basically it "ejects" all background, unused apps, from memory making room for the foreground app which needs it most. If for some reason you need to fiddle with that, you can try using the V6 Supercharger script. I find it suitable for my needs but YMMV. It's completely reversible, so if you don't like it you can uninstall it just like that.
P.S. - I agree with rootSU, the ammount of free RAM has nothing to do with battery consumption. If you suspect that an app is draining your battery, check Android's battery statistics to find the culprit.
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I respectfuly disagree. Android built in ram management is just silly. If I open xda app for example (it could actually be any app for that matter), reply to a few posts, read a few more and close it, why does it need to stay in ram? It reloads anyway when I run it again after I've closed it (using the back button or the actual exit command in the app itself). Why does the camera app need to stay in the background after I just shot a few photos and closed it? Because I may or may not use it again in some time? It's rediculous. And the whole theory that ram management doesn't require any power/cpu usage, how do you guys think all those apps get killed? Android will power?! No, kernel scans all running apps and kills the ones based on built in heuristics so it also reads them first. So that doesn't require any power/battery? Awesome if it's true! Although I wouldn't bet on that. And all this fuss just because you may or may not launch the same app sometime during the next day/week/month/year or it'll eventually get killed? Now that's just plain stupid. I get apps that need services like widgets, push notifications etc. but random apps like root explorer, xda app, titanium, youtube etc. which are opened specificly by the user shouldn't be in ram just for the sake of it after they're closed. I closed it, meaning I don't need it anymore. And I don't need the kernel to scan all apps and running services every time I launch an app so it could provide the free ram that app needs. Consumes cpu time, battery, i/o ... every piece of hardware actually just to free some ram that shouldn't be occupied in the first place. Every app that I ever opened on my phone got loaded almost instantly and that's just after phone had been booted. So after that it should stay in ram so I could open it in a blink of an eye instead of instantly? That's just funny.
Anyway, I'm just thinking out loud so don't flame me immediately. There probably are apsects of it that I didn't mention here or am not aware of. And I'm not saying that I'm right and you guys are wrong, I'm just saying what I know and think about this subject.
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PlayPetepp, while it might be true that the OS allocates (thus use) some resources to memory maintenance, the impact on battery life is negligible. In the Android OS, apps in memory are ordered according to priority and state, so the OS always knows which apps to kill first if it needs to make room in RAM, without much of a hassle. The only bad consequence of this system seems to be the fact that once the memory fills up, the launcher may lag or even be evacuated from memory. But, as i've mentioned in my previous post, there are ways to prevent that, either via scripts or, if you know what you're doing, via editing system files.
So the OS doesn't need to scan anything as it keeps everything in memory again? Seems like an endless loop. Open, sort, kill if needed, reopen, sort again, kill ... to what end, constant unneccessary multitasking that user is unaware of? I really don't see any benefit of that system and am only seeing the downsides. I mean, who needs every app they ever run remain in ram even if they close them after using? And then opening another app and "waiting" for whatever needs to be closed to get it running. Sure you can mess with the scripts (init.d, init.rc, etc.) but the underlined conditions stay the same. I hope I'm making sense here. Or am I fighting against windmills.
I just figured out that I strayed from the topic of this thread so won't be continuing this discussion if it's considered offtopic.
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Stop looking for excuses for poor multitasking in Sense 3+ roms
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Hello again nice to see you here
Here's an interesting article on what I was talking about. Sense 3.5 doesn't need that many mbs of ram to work smoothly. After booting and setting everything up I have 150+ mb free. That should be enough for decent multitasking but all those apps not getting killed when you close them are eating too much. Can anyone explain in detail what hidden app, perceptible app, backup app and heavy_weight app means? I've been googling this for a week and can't find any decent explanation.
@PlayPetepp - I think i have already said (in my previous post) that the OS does indeed use some resources for managing the memory, but they are negligible in terms of their impact on battery life. IMHO, the only thing a 3'rd party memory manager (task killer) WILL do is improve lanuncher responsiveness (lag) as the lag does increase when free RAM drops under a certain limit. Thus used wisely, a task killer can improve responsiveness, but battery life... very little, in rare cases (it does the opposite, most of the time).
Regarding the so called "memory slots", here's an excerpt from this article:
FOREGROUND_APP: This is the application currently on the screen, and running
VISIBLE_APP: This is an application that is open, and running in the background because it's still doing something
SECONDARY_SERVER: This is a process (a service that an application needs) that is alive and ready in case it's needed to do something
HIDDEN_APP: This again is a process, that sits idle (but still alive) in case it's needed by an app that's alive and running
CONTENT_PROVIDER: This is apps that provide data (content) to the system. HTC Facebook Sync? That's a CONTENT_PROVIDER. So are things like the Android Market, or Fring. If they are alive, they can refresh and provide the content they are supposed to at the set interval. If you kill them, they can't of course.
EMPTY_APP: I call these "ghosts." They are apps that you have opened, but are done with them. Android uses a unique style of handling memory management. When an activity is ended, instead of killing it off Android keeps the application in memory so that opening them again is a faster process. Theses "ghost" apps use no battery or CPU time, they just fill RAM that would be otherwise empty. When this memory is needed by a different application or process, the RAM is flushed and made available for the new app. To satisfy the geekier people (like myself) Android does this by keeping a list of recently used apps, with the oldest apps in the list given the lowest priority -- they are killed first if RAM is needed elsewhere. This is a perfect way to handle 'ghost' processes, so there's no need to touch this part
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Speed up the galaxy y smartphoneGuys today I am going to teach you how to speed up the galaxy y.The galaxy y has many problems.Low ram and processor speed being one of them.However,this is mostly due to factors which can be reduced and avoided.This guide is divided into two parts.Root section and Non root section.The rooted users can follow the non root section too but the non rooted users cant follow the root section(Duh!!)After following these steps your galaxy y should run like a galaxy s2!!!:laugh::laugh::laugh:
Non Root Section
Apps
Get these two cool apps to boost your phones speed:
1)Android Speed booster(its Free)
2)Smart Ram booster(free and paid)
Some ppl use Nq mobile booster but i personally think its meant for high end phones.The Nq mobile booster itself hogs abt 20 mb ram in the background and,for the most part,its like an antivirus.
Widgets
Widgets are meant for quick access and are one of android's biggest selling points.However,loading up your home screen with widgets can be counterproductive as they hog ram.one or two widgets are O.K but over three? cause for worry.And,avoid interactive widgets like animated ones.they are ram hoggers!!
Service Check
Many people will be surprised to see this here but really,its one of the most important steps.Long press on the home screen.Go to Add>Shortcuts>Settings>Running Services.It should then place a shortcut on your home screen.Periodically,click on the shortcut and check how many services are running in the background.Useless ones like games services can be terminated!
This step may sound tedious at first,but itll soon beccome a habit for speed geeks.Try this step,youll be surprised how many useless servicves can be terminated,thus freeing up precious ram...
Antivirus
Are you using lookout? if yes,then change to AVG.Lookout hogs over 25 mb ram in the background!!Sorry lookout fans!!
App configurations
Have you configured a app to run in the background?? if so ask yourself this questiono I really need that service?At the cost of ram??If the answer is no,then change the app configuration.If its yes,then you arent a speed freak
Launchers
Launchers are awesome.period!Not only are they more customizable and look better,many a time,they also use less ram than your stock launcher!So,what are you waiting for,if youve not already got one,them get one!!!Some of the best launchers(graded on speed,storage usage,and memory)are:-Lightning launcher,Adw launcher and launcher pro.Go launcher uses too much ram and storage,making it an ideal choice for high end phones but not for the y!!
Root Your Phone!!
The following steps require root access.So go ahead root your phone! its 99.9% safe!Just google root the galaxy y and there appears the process!Its a really simple process really.Just6 downloading a file called update.zip and installing it in recovery!
Root Section
V6 Supercharger by zeppelinrox
As any speed freak would know,the v6 supercharger is an awesome script made by an xda dev called zeppelinrox.It basically defragments your ram,changes priorities and most importantly,makes your phone blazingly fast!Here is the link to a guide made by another xda dev called carl dean catabay:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1603953
Apps
Get the following apps for root to speed up your phone
1)Autokiller memory optimizer
2)Game booster
I dont think they are available on play store,so get them as apks!
Bloatware and Crapware
Apps preinstalled by the manufacturer and wireless carrier are called bloatwares.Most of them are absolutely useless and do nothing but hog ram and storage.So,do you want them on your phone?Hell no!!So get a root file explorer and delete them in system/app!!
Custom Rom
A custom rom can greatly enhance your phone!Besides,its also a certificate of geekiness!So,get a custom rom today!!But before that,i would like to say that custom roms and V6 Supercharger dont mix well.So,first check whether your rom is compatible or not before running V6 supercharger.
Authors NoteI would first of all like to say that I am not responsible for any damage to your device which may have occurred from not following some root steps properly.It is,as i said,99.9% safe but some noobs will have still bricked their phones!Secondly,I would like to ask you not to copy my guide onto other forums.Lastly,please rate this thread five stars if it helped.New steps will be added soon!!
Thank you ...
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Apps
Get the following apps for root to speed up your phone
1)Autokiller memory optimizer
2)Game booster
I dont think they are available on play store,so get them as apks!
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Complete crap, they make more battery consumption rather than decreasing it.
Android has its own taskkiller and it manages accordingly, using taskkiller will result in a decrease of performance...
hitme987 said:
Complete crap, they make more battery consumption rather than decreasing it.
Android has its own taskkiller and it manages accordingly, using taskkiller will result in a decrease of performance...
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I think you didnt read properly!!!!!!This is to increase speed not battery life!!!!!!And androids default task killer is horrible!!plus game booster is not even a task killer.it is a tool for overclocking. dont ever post cuss words or ill report u to Techno!!!!"
I am a complete GEEK!!!!
Lol mr.op
I found this on v6 supercharger forum ....
mrappbrain said:
This script didnt help me at all!!!It slowed down my phone!!My games dont run fast at all!!!I followed all the steps correctly..Please help someone!!!
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Haha it slowed down ur phone and u come here make a forum sayin it speed up ur fone ??
Why r u lying mr geek
simplyanin said:
Lol mr.op
I found this on v6 supercharger forum ....
Haha it slowed down ur phone and u come here make a forum sayin it speed up ur fone ??
Why r u lying mr geek
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As you may have noticed by now,I am a speed freak!So,i actually was running a custom rom.So,V6 superchargers minfree values and my roms did not match and my phone slowed down.Thats why i hve added in the custom rom column,custom roms and V6 supercharger do not mix well!Eplecially if the rom has its own minfree values,I wanted to share my ways of speeding up my phone with others.V6 supercharger is not a choice of mine but others love it so i included it.It dosent work on my phone because of the above reason.However,itll work for urs.Guaranteed!!!:laugh:
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Umm....dude do u think u could upload a download link for game booster and also which kernel tweaks should I use on the memory booster think?
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c.r.e.e.d said:
Umm....dude do u think u could upload a download link for game booster and also which kernel tweaks should I use on the memory booster think?
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The game booster apk is attached below
Edit: game booster paid app on play store so apk removed as its warez
Thanks mate.
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c.r.e.e.d said:
Thanks mate.
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Press thanks instead of saying it
U r a compleat noob
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mrappbrain said:
The game booster apk is attached below
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You attached game booster but its a paid app in play store,so you posted warez.Delete it before delete techno
funny95 said:
You attached game booster but its a paid app in play store,so you posted warez.Delete it before delete techno
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I removed it.thnx
good thread indeed, but you'll need to revise some of the content. no offense but someone who has been using sgy for a long time might think this thread is just a useless post.
Apps
Get these two cool apps to boost your phones speed:
1)Android Speed booster(its Free)
2)Smart Ram booster(free and paid)
Some ppl use Nq mobile booster but i personally think its meant for high end phones.The Nq mobile booster itself hogs abt 20 mb ram in the background and,for the most part,its like an antivirus.
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any proof on it? most of these app just give placebo effect. remember that modfying system always need root permission. how could these app boost our device without root permission?
Antivirus
Are you using lookout? if yes,then change to AVG.Lookout hogs over 25 mb ram in the background!!Sorry lookout fans!!
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somehow it doesn't match with the title. antivirus is comsuming a lot of ram space and it has great impact on device performance. using no antivirus is recommended if you want a fast device
App configurations
Have you configured a app to run in the background?? if so ask yourself this questiono I really need that service?At the cost of ram??If the answer is no,then change the app configuration.If its yes,then you arent a speed freak
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sounds easy...but how to change it? the setting is saved inside the apk itself. native android GB setting can do nothing about it. app like autostart manager needs root permission.
V6 Supercharger by zeppelinrox
As any speed freak would know,the v6 supercharger is an awesome script made by an xda dev called zeppelinrox.It basically defragments your ram,changes priorities and most importantly,makes your phone blazingly fast!Here is the link to a guide made by another xda dev called carl dean catabay:http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1603953
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this tweak doesn't always running well in sgy. anyway, this tweak also too general. there are a lot of better tweak specified for samsung devices or sgy. you can make it simpler by simply saying "use any system tweaks".
Apps
Get the following apps for root to speed up your phone
1)Autokiller memory optimizer
2)Game booster
I dont think they are available on play store,so get them as apks!
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look above
Bloatware and Crapware
Apps preinstalled by the manufacturer and wireless carrier are called bloatwares.Most of them are absolutely useless and do nothing but hog ram and storage.So,do you want them on your phone?Hell no!!So get a root file explorer and delete them in system/app!!
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good advice but you'll need a complete list of the bloatwares. most of user here doesn't know which app are safe to be removed.
Custom Rom
A custom rom can greatly enhance your phone!Besides,its also a certificate of geekiness!So,get a custom rom today!!But before that,i would like to say that custom roms and V6 Supercharger dont mix well.So,first check whether your rom is compatible or not before running V6 supercharger.
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tweaked+debloatwared stock rom always perform better
kurotsugi said:
good thread indeed, but you'll need to revise some of the content. no offense but someone who has been using sgy for a long time might think this thread is just a useless post.
any proof on it? most of these app just give placebo effect. remember that modfying system always need root permission. how could these app boost our device without root permission?
somehow it doesn't match with the title. antivirus is comsuming a lot of ram space and it has great impact on device performance. using no antivirus is recommended if you want a fast device
sounds easy...but how to change it? the setting is saved inside the apk itself. native android GB setting can do nothing about it. app like autostart manager needs root permission.
V6 Supercharger by zeppelinrox
this tweak doesn't always running well in sgy. anyway, this tweak also too general. there are a lot of better tweak specified for samsung devices or sgy. you can make it simpler by simply saying "use any system tweaks".
look above
good advice but you'll need a complete list of the bloatwares. most of user here doesn't know which app are safe to be removed.
tweaked+debloatwared stock rom always perform better
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On the defensive now,apps like speed booster just kill unnecessary apps and clear cache,thus giving a quick,temporary,but effective speed boost.thus,they dont need root
As for antivirus,in this day and age its just stupid not to have an antivirus.AVG used5mb ram,lookout uses 26!thus i say switch to AVG.
By app config,i mean the setting of the app.for example, enabling real time scanner on a antivirus could have a negative effect on performance.such settings can be tweaked inside the app itself.
V6 supercharger works 90%of the time.and cuz of xda,even the other 10%can get it to work!!
I didnt get ur look above.
And,noobs are not generally speed freaks.so,i thought any not noob would know the difference between bloatware and important app
And custom roms give speed increases and a new lease of life to devices.
Thanks for the advice,
Hope i clarified things.
Mrappbrain
mrappbrain said:
On the defensive now,apps like speed booster just kill unnecessary apps and clear cache,thus giving a quick,temporary,but effective speed boost.thus,they dont need root
As for antivirus,in this day and age its just stupid not to have an antivirus.AVG used5mb ram,lookout uses 26!thus i say switch to AVG.
By app config,i mean the setting of the app.for example, enabling real time scanner on a antivirus could have a negative effect on performance.such settings can be tweaked inside the app itself.
V6 supercharger works 90%of the time.and cuz of xda,even the other 10%can get it to work!!
I didnt get ur look above.
And,noobs are not generally speed freaks.so,i thought any not noob would know the difference between bloatware and important app
And custom roms give speed increases and a new lease of life to devices.
Thanks for the advice,
Hope i clarified things.
Mrappbrain
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all task killer not kill unnecessary apps, they kill random unlucky apps. they don't know which one is unnecessary. if you open browser then need do something like check your mail, then your task killer think your browser is useless because it' not active, then all your opened page is lost and need to reopen (download). that's not fast
and what do you mean with cache? io/storage cache in memory? only kernel can do it, and it's completely automatic. and cache make io/storage access faster. or disk cache? you need root access.
and android already have build in task killer which is already working great in gingerbread.
antivirus? freaks don't need antivirus. freaks read apps permission. freaks not install apps from untrusted source. freaks aware if something wrong with his/her device.
good custom rom give speed improvement. bad one is not. the question is which one is good ? if your answer is non noob would know which one is good, then all non noob already know all you tips. they don't need it.
i love android. unfortunately android community have a lot of myth and misconception
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On the defensive now,apps like speed booster just kill unnecessary apps and clear cache,thus giving a quick,temporary,but effective speed boost.thus,they dont need root
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if you insist...in a more explained reason. no user level app could kill another user level app. more ram space is also always be a bad idea in a linux based system like android. a simple test with an app like antutu will shows you an objective and measurable result. no performance boost
As for antivirus,in this day and age its just stupid not to have an antivirus.AVG used5mb ram,lookout uses 26!thus i say switch to AVG.
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personally I prefer to use none of it. no malware reported could damage our system. most of them only a kind of data stealing app. we could filter it faster than any antivirus did. even if we accidentally installed one, we can simply uninstall it. system damage count-->zero. the ram usage is only one thing. we should also consider the cpu load on our device. these kind of app use more resource than usual app.
V6 supercharger works 90%of the time.and cuz of xda,even the other 10%can get it to work!!
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can you run it on stock rom with stock kernel? of course not. you can check the values between this tweak and the one in the system. most of them are different.
1. these tweak needs a custom kernel with init.d support.
2. galaxy series tweak like adrenaline, stamatis's or nitrospeed is more favored since they're specially designed for low ram devices like sgy. v6 is too general and not suitable with our device. you should understand it better than anyone else
Originally Posted by mrappbrain View Post
This script didnt help me at all!!!It slowed down my phone!!My games dont run fast at all!!!I followed all the steps correctly..Please help someone!!!
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3. most of custom rom have their own tweak. no need to add more tweak.
I didnt get ur look above.
copied-->any proof on it? most of these app just give placebo effect. a simple test with an app like antutu will shows you an objective and measurable result. no performance boost
And,noobs are not generally speed freaks.so,i thought any not noob would know the difference between bloatware and important app
And custom roms give speed increases and a new lease of life to devices.
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nope...even a dev need that list. if this thread isn't for noob then why should it exist? most advanced user already know about this stuffs. they even make their own tweak and rom for theirselves.
for the custom rom, are you sure it faster? most of custom roms have a kind of placebo effect, makes the user 'feels' that it faster than stock rom. well, that's a subjective view on it. on an objective view, custom rom have average 1800-1900 antutu score. the highest result is ~2100 with repencis rom. on other hand stock rom could hit 1900+ easily. the highest score is ~2200. none of custom rom could beat it ^,^v
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mrappbrain said:
I think you didnt read properly!!!!!!This is to increase speed not battery life!!!!!!And androids default task killer is horrible!!plus game booster is not even a task killer.it is a tool for overclocking. dont ever post cuss words or ill report u to Techno!!!!"
I am a complete GEEK!!!!
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Nope, it doesnt increase battery life too, it instead decreases..androids default task killer isnt horrible, its the correct balance between ram, performance and battery saving.
Game booster never overclocks(lol), its a placebo effect, you need a overclock kernel to do that.
Did I cuss something there? You seriously should learn what "Crap" means..Go on and report to techno, I did nothing wrong there..
LOL you a geek? Seriously dude, wait let me explain the whole thing you got there..you have many misconceptions, its not being a noob thats wrong, drawing misconceptions and false statements make it wrong.
mrappbrain said:
On the defensive now,apps like speed booster just kill unnecessary apps and clear cache,thus giving a quick,temporary,but effective speed boost.thus,they dont need root
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It does give a boost, but you guys dont mean what boost is, it kills the background processes hence giving a boost, but the processes need to run in background at all times, hence they will open again automatically, you close them, then open, its like a cycle, will it increase any battery saving or performance? Its common sense..
mrappbrain said:
As for antivirus,in this day and age its just stupid not to have an antivirus.AVG used5mb ram,lookout uses 26!thus i say switch to AVG.
By app config,i mean the setting of the app.for example, enabling real time scanner on a antivirus could have a negative effect on performance.such settings can be tweaked inside the app itself.
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Linux doesnt have any viruses(aside from spywares which steal your personal info) like windows..also, its almost impossible to create a virus on android..using avg or any antivirus is waste of ram+battery since the play store applications wont have any viruses in it, unless you download apks from unknown sources, an antivirus is not required. BTW,on my experimentation, avg antivirus with real time scanning uses more battery than a launcher or anything (Dont draw conclusions that its just 5 MB, it needs to run 24x7, needs to verify every site you browse, need to scan sd card every time it mounts up, so it takes more battery than a launcher or a refreshing home widget takes)
mrappbrain said:
Apps
Get the following apps for root to speed up your phone
1)Autokiller memory optimizer
2)Game booster
I dont think they are available on play store,so get them as apks!
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Same as the first case, your battery life, performance and everything will decrease, these apps dont do your device any good
mrappbrain said:
And,noobs are not generally speed freaks.so,i thought any not noob would know the difference between bloatware and important app
And custom roms give speed increases and a new lease of life to devices.
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Dude, you got any proof for this?
Stock ROM is way better than custom ROM, custom ROMs are just smooth to use thats it, battery backup, gaming, multi tasking, everything is a lot better
than custom ROMs. Go check antutu benchmarks and no custom ROM can touch stock ROMs benchmarks, now that makes some sense isnt it?
Guys u say that avg is best antivirus on speed . I use kaspersky. Is that OK or how compared to avg?
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Is this normal?. my ram is really low and im only running what you can see?
Any advice please:fingers-crossed:
I wouldn't say that's too low. So you can sit back and relax
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oh rite thanks!
Yes show me ur cached process es
Mine is alot more like 144 mb free
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Sorry for the late reply. I was root/s-off a friends desire for him
here it is.
EDIT:::: I have 0 ram free now!
striped121 said:
Sorry for the late reply. I was root/s-off a friends desire for him
here it is.
EDIT:::: I have 0 ram free now!
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Reboot, delete some useless apps, close out of your programs more often.. etc
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that's too less mate.. i never have less than 70mb ram
even though i use SwiftKey and whats app
what i use is titanium tweaker app from the market
go to voltage set it to - 150 (for battery)
note set to - 150 only if you're oc to 1024
if higher don't do.. The phone won't respond..
then go to advance/turbocharger lmk
select megaram2
done see the difference
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dude unless u play games mine always shows 144 mb, remove **** that u dont use
download this from the market
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rs.autorun.pro&hl=en
the paid one is awesome,but there is a free one also!, diavle the startup of junk bloatware and reboot!
4 bucks for a 87KB app? xD
Lowest ram I had was 51MB, and I use Sense 4.1. I would say using task killers help if your one of them people who want to see your ram high. If your device feels sluggish after use, use a task killer, or reboot.
I'm sure CM has that low mem problem though ither way. I saw someone posting bugs about it.
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Curiousn00b said:
4 bucks for a 87KB app? xD
Lowest ram I had was 51MB, and I use Sense 4.1. I would say using task killers help if your one of them people who want to see your ram high. If your device feels sluggish after use, use a task killer, or reboot.
I'm sure CM has that low mem problem though ither way. I saw someone posting bugs about it.
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use the free version then!
Suppose ill just ignore it then as my phone is smooth and fast anyhow. just curiious to why really. it's at about 70 now on average.
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Suppose ill just ignore it then as my phone is smooth and fast anyhow. just curiious to why really. it's at about 70 now on average.
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i said it numerous times... android is NOT windows. your free ram in linux => your system fails to work. your free ram in windows => you can open up more programs until the ram is full.
in linux it is better to have the whole ram full, not free. if you want more infos, you can search on the net.
When an Android app is no longer in use, the system will automatically suspend it in memory - while the app is still technically "open," suspended apps consume no resources (e.g. battery power or processing power) and sit idly in the background until needed again. This has the dual benefit of increasing the general responsiveness of Android devices, since apps don't need to be closed and reopened from scratch each time, but also ensuring background apps don't waste power needlessly
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Android manages the apps stored in memory automatically: when memory is low, the system will begin killing apps and processes that have been inactive for a while, in reverse order since they were last used (i.e. oldest first). This process is designed to be invisible to the user, such that users do not need to manage memory or the killing of apps themselves.[65] However, confusion over Android memory management has resulted in third-party task killers becoming popular on the Google Play store; these third-party task killers are generally regarded as doing more harm than good.
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1ceb0x said:
i said it numerous times... android is NOT windows. your free ram in linux => your system fails to work. your free ram in windows => you can open up more programs until the ram is full.
in linux it is better to have the whole ram full, not free. if you want more infos, you can search on the net.
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Thanks for giving everyone who isn't aware some knowledge :highfive:Getting tired of these kinds of topics.
"More doesn't always mean better"
1ceb0x said:
i said it numerous times... android is NOT windows. your free ram in linux => your system fails to work. your free ram in windows => you can open up more programs until the ram is full.
in linux it is better to have the whole ram full, not free. if you want more infos, you can search on the net.
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source: Wikipedia
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but 1ce keeping them in the memory drains battery also right? so i prefer just remove some bloatware auto start aps
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Thanks for giving everyone who isn't aware some knowledge :highfive:Getting tired of these kinds of topics.
"More doesn't always mean better"
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if your tired of these kind of topics then simply dont read them.
I Thank you for the info and understand perfectly now as i've never used linux prior to android annd never wanted to.
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but 1ce keeping them in the memory drains battery also right? so i prefer just remove some bloatware auto start aps
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wrong. they remain in memory but they will not consume anything. that's what cache memory means.
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wrong. they remain in memory but they will not consume anything. that's what cache memory means.
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I am backig up everything Ice wrote above...
Also if you need auto start manager(free) go check this two https://play.google.com/store/apps/...1bGwsMSwxLDEsImltb2JsaWZlLnRvb2xib3guZnVsbCJd
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wxLDEsImNvbS5qcnVtbXkubGliZXJ0eS50b29sYm94Il0.
Much more then just auto start managers..enjoy