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Just connected to Zune to sync, and a new HTC update was available, anybody else seeing this?

FiyaFleye said:
Just connected to Zune to sync, and a new HTC update was available, anybody else seeing this?
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What number is the update?

did it listed any list of update?

iEatRappers said:
What number is the update?
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It was just listed as an HTC Update, the next Firmware number is 2250.21.51004.531. I know when I updated to the internet sharing firmware it was 51003.

FiyaFleye said:
It was just listed as an HTC Update, the next Firmware number is 2250.21.51004.531. I know when I updated to the internet sharing firmware it was 51003.
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I got that Firmware with the internet sharing update before Christmas

Wow T-Mobile gets the internet sharing update while Verizon still sucks, I think this year will be the year I switch to T-Mobile, they just have more choices and are way cheaper, Verizon can keep their crapy line up of gay ass Android phones.

jasonkruys said:
I got that Firmware with the internet sharing update before Christmas
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I got the 003 one with the internet sharing lol. I guess my phone installed the wrong update? I mean, you would think with the numerous times I connected my phone from November til now it would have picked it up before...

sinister1 said:
Wow T-Mobile gets the internet sharing update while Verizon still sucks, I think this year will be the year I switch to T-Mobile, they just have more choices and are way cheaper, Verizon can keep their crapy line up of gay ass Android phones.
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given how poor tmo coverage is, they better have something to compensate. good news is the tmo-att roaming agreement. at least in some areas you can roam att for free.

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New OTA - AOJ1

Hey guys and gals, there is a new OTA available. Build number AOJ1. It comes in at almost 119mb.
It is still 5.1.1 and just general performance improvements, etc. I haven't had a chance to run it through its paces yet. I will update as I have a better idea of how it is.
Downloading mine now
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WizeGuyDezignz said:
Hey guys and gals, there is a new OTA available. Build number AOJ1. It comes in at almost 119mb.
It is still 5.1.1 and just general performance improvements, etc. I haven't had a chance to run it through its paces yet. I will update as I have a better idea of how it is.
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Shut up idiot..you only know about it cause I text you and told you. Lol
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Software update includes
WizeGuyDezignz said:
Hey guys and gals, there is a new OTA available. Build number AOJ1. It comes in at almost 119mb.
It is still 5.1.1 and just general performance improvements, etc. I haven't had a chance to run it through its paces yet. I will update as I have a better idea of how it is.
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How are your menu screens black? I'm assuming that is a theme?
TeldenW said:
How are your menu screens black? I'm assuming that is a theme?
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Yes, it's a theme. It's called fantasy dark.
Running On Samsung Galaxy Note 5 N920A
Ok... I'll jump. Already ran the Fall update on Winders 10, might as well throw my phone into early-adoption-land as well.
Not finding this update on my phone. On Cricket Wireless network running on unlocked AT&T version. Since Cricket uses AT&T network, it shouldn't matter much. Is this available via Smart Switch yet or strictly OTA?
Might be prep for Marshmallow
Does anyone have an offline copy of this or previous version that I can flash through odin? I am 2 versions behind and software update says I m on the latest.
banstro said:
Does anyone have an offline copy of this or previous version that I can flash through odin? I am 2 versions behind and software update says I[']m on the latest.
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Contact AT&T tech support by online chat and they can push the update to your phone. (I did that for one of the Note 5s I'm helping to maintain.)
Gary02468 said:
Contact AT&T tech support by online chat and they can push the update to your phone. (I did that for one of the Note 5s I'm helping to maintain.)
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Tried the online chat. The customer rep refused to push said they have no ability to contact the phone as Cricket Wireless is servicing it. I think its all BS.. the rep didn't know what she was talking. Tried another rep, same answer. I have used TMobile Note Edge on Cricket Wireless and always got the latest OTA updates.
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Tried the online chat. The customer rep refused to push said they have no ability to contact the phone as Cricket Wireless is servicing it. I think its all BS.. the rep didn't know what she was talking. Tried another rep, same answer. I have used TMobile Note Edge on Cricket Wireless and always got the latest OTA updates.
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The problem here is that your using Cricket, even though the phone may be on an AT&T Network, AT&T will not recognize the device as being on their network. AT&T is always fairly strict with who, what, and when they roll out updates. It is also possible it just isn't available in the area you are as well. If all else fails go to a Best Buy and have them flash the device to the most current at the Samsung Kiosk. Though they are usually about a month or so behind on updates typically, at least last I recall anyway. Believe me if AT&T Execs had their way I am more than willing to bet they would lock their phones down so hard no one would be able to take their phones to another carrier. T-Mobile on the other hand is fairly open with what people do with their cellphones hence the reason most of their phones can be rooted etc.
On am on at&t with an AT&T phone and I am on old version? I called at &t and Rep says they cannot push an update? Ended up having me call asurion. Insurance company for the phone and they have no idea? Any help in this matter would be great.
malickie said:
The problem here is that your using Cricket, even though the phone may be on an AT&T Network, AT&T will not recognize the device as being on their network. AT&T is always fairly strict with who, what, and when they roll out updates. It is also possible it just isn't available in the area you are as well. If all else fails go to a Best Buy and have them flash the device to the most current at the Samsung Kiosk. Though they are usually about a month or so behind on updates typically, at least last I recall anyway. Believe me if AT&T Execs had their way I am more than willing to bet they would lock their phones down so hard no one would be able to take their phones to another carrier. T-Mobile on the other hand is fairly open with what people do with their cellphones hence the reason most of their phones can be rooted etc.
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Already been to Best Buy. They are 2 versions behind on this as well. So I have the version what Best Buy has...ending with AO16
Mine just received the update. Installed and apps are optimizing now.
Acill said:
Mine just received the update. Installed and apps are optimizing now.
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What's the baseband or are we talking about J1 ?
Running On Samsung Galaxy Note 5 N920A
Is the OTA pushed file stored somewhere on the phone? May be it can be flashed thru odin?
Chris V said:
On am on at&t with an AT&T phone and I am on old version? I called at &t and Rep says they cannot push an update? Ended up having me call asurion. Insurance company for the phone and they have no idea? Any help in this matter would be great.
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It's been what five hours. Just wait tell they get you.
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If someone tells me how i will save the file and upload it when i get home. I have the update postponed currently.

Connectivity Status on 1.53?

Hi all,
I have a VZW 10 running 1.19. I'm interested in knowing if the connectivity issues, specifically Wi-Fi, have been fixed. The patch notes for 1.53 do address it, but has it been fixed.
I know there are workarounds, but this is a $550 phone. Wi-Fi should work out of the box.
Thanks for your help.
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dn.lck said:
Hi all,
I have a VZW 10 running 1.19. I'm interested in knowing if the connectivity issues, specifically Wi-Fi, have been fixed. The patch notes for 1.53 do address it, but has it been fixed.
I know there are workarounds, but this is a $550 phone. Wi-Fi should work out of the box.
Thanks for your help.
Sent from my HTC6545LVW using Tapatalk
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1.53 is for general US unlocked and not VZW. 1.53 needs non VZW firmware to work properly.
1.19 is a very old build (US launched with 1.21) so I'd expect a VZW update sometime in the next 30 days.
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datafoo said:
1.53 is for general US unlocked and not VZW. 1.53 needs non VZW firmware to work properly.
1.19 is a very old build (US launched with 1.21) so I'd expect a VZW update sometime in the next 30 days.
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I'm on 1.19 as well shipped from Verizon. no update was available to 1.21 for me. I'm currently using viper now with 1.19 still, hoping to see something pop up on here :fingers-crossed:
I seem to have wifi issues using standard wifi, but if I use the wifi-5G connection It works flawless
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I'm on 1.19 as well shipped from Verizon. no update was available to 1.21 for me. I'm currently using viper now with 1.19 still, hoping to see something pop up on here :fingers-crossed:
I seem to have wifi issues using standard wifi, but if I use the wifi-5G connection It works flawless
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Correct, 1.21 is ONLY for general unlocked versions and not VZW. You won't see a 1.21.617.* or 1.53.617.* update as those are not for your device. In fact you shouldn't use any *.617.* build as the 617 indicates it's not for your carrier but general unlocked.
You must use a VZW build because of firmware and custom VZW settings. Your only choice right now is to wait for VZW to push their build update.
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My wifi was fine on 1.21, then was horrible with the 1.53 update. It's mostly alright now with a couple tweaks.
datafoo said:
Correct, 1.21 is ONLY for general unlocked versions and not VZW. You won't see a 1.21.617.* or 1.53.617.* update as those are not for your device. In fact you shouldn't use any *.617.* build as the 617 indicates it's not for your carrier but general unlocked.
You must use a VZW build because of firmware and custom VZW settings. Your only choice right now is to wait for VZW to push their build update.
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Interesting. How will future firmware updates work? Will we receive the same but with .605 at the end?
regalpimpin said:
My wifi was fine on 1.21, then was horrible with the 1.53 update. It's mostly alright now with a couple tweaks.
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dn.lck said:
Interesting. How will future firmware updates work? Will we receive the same but with .605 at the end?
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The build identifiers work like this = 1.53.617.5 <--- current gen unlocked build.
1.53 = primary build ID
.617. = is the carrier specific ID
5 = minor build revision ID
You're partly right. A VZW build would look like (taken from an M9 build) 3.37.605.7 where .605. is the VZW carrier ID. More than likely when they release the update it'll be higher than 1.53.*.*
If you're stock recovery and system then you'll get an OTA notification from VZW whenever their updates are available. There may be an RUU available once the updates are pushed and settled.
The OTA will have a new radio, firmware and system updates for your carrier. You must use matching firmware/system build in order to get the best performance. The firmware is the hardware layer while the system is the software/OS layer.
You should not use new system with old firmware or new firmware with old system files.
Great. Thank you. That helps. I will wait patiently for HTC and Verizon to fix this issue.
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dn.lck said:
Great. Thank you. That helps. I will wait patiently for HTC and Verizon to fix this issue.
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I know it's a tough spot and being patient can be hard.
I really don't think it'll be long before we see an update for you. The UK and US updates were about 3 weeks apart and we just got our US 1.53.* update a week or so ago. Give it a couple more weeks to pass the carrier approval stage and it'll get pushed out.
For sure, there will be an update. Try to be patient
dn.lck said:
Hi all,
I have a VZW 10 running 1.19. I'm interested in knowing if the connectivity issues, specifically Wi-Fi, have been fixed. The patch notes for 1.53 do address it, but has it been fixed.
I know there are workarounds, but this is a $550 phone. Wi-Fi should work out of the box.
Thanks for your help.
Sent from my HTC6545LVW using Tapatalk
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I haven't experienced this exact issue but what I have experienced as a general drop in signal strength on the 10. I have a side-by-side comparison of signal with my m9 versus the 10 and there's a big difference. I'm on prepaid service so I'm planning on switching to AT&T next month just to see if their service is any better. So far no one from T-Mobile has been able to tell me why my service is so bad considering I have two towers less than 1 mile away from where I live, and when I first started service with T-Mobile about five years ago it was fantastic but I would say in the last six months to a year it has started to go downhill
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Mark112887 said:
I haven't experienced this exact issue but what I have experienced as a general drop in signal strength on the 10. I have a side-by-side comparison of signal with my m9 versus the 10 and there's a big difference. I'm on prepaid service so I'm planning on switching to AT&T next month just to see if their service is any better. So far no one from T-Mobile has been able to tell me why my service is so bad considering I have two towers less than 1 mile away from where I live, and when I first started service with T-Mobile about five years ago it was fantastic but I would say in the last six months to a year it has started to go downhill
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http://dl-1.va.us.xda-developers.co....png?key=vZKJ8ZMn6jtMzpo2mugVyw&ts=1464049167
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Your answer is simple. It's T-Mobile
Refarmed network and spectrum.
datafoo said:
Your answer is simple. It's T-Mobile
Refarmed network and spectrum.
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lol

Bell Canada Firmware update 1.53

Got my phone on April 29th only received one update so far which was on launch day. Im on 1.21.666.1
I was wondering if i can use the htc unlocked NA RUU from their website to upgrade my firmware?
Contacted bell about the update they have no clue...i dont think they are selling well in Canada...i dont think they are taking the firmware update seriously so i was looking at other options.
I would really appreciate it if someone can help me
Thank You
***RECEIVED THE OTA UPDATE IN THE MORNING MAY 26TH***
obk88 said:
Got my phone on April 29th only received one update so far which was on launch day. Im on 1.21.666.1
I was wondering if i can use the htc unlocked NA RUU from their website to upgrade my firmware?
Contacted bell about the update they have no clue...i dont think they are selling well in Canada...i dont think they are taking the firmware update seriously so i was looking at other options.
I would really appreciate it if someone can help me
Thank You
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Until rogers and telus picks up this phone, updates are going to be slow. I heard they might in june but from the slow sales there's a possibility they won't.
malek777 said:
Until rogers and telus picks up this phone, updates are going to be slow. I heard they might in june but from the slow sales there's a possibility they won't.
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the exclusivity ends on july 1st...hopefully Rogers picks it up...i think its selling decent in the US but its out on more carriers as well
obk88 said:
the exclusivity ends on july 1st...hopefully Rogers picks it up...i think its selling decent in the US but its out on more carriers as well
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Agreed. A price drop would be nice too. Telus is the quickest so far with the updates. I'm personally waiting for the htc nexus hopefully killer hardware and software at a reasonable price.
malek777 said:
Agreed. A price drop would be nice too. Telus is the quickest so far with the updates. I'm personally waiting for the htc nexus hopefully killer hardware and software at a reasonable price.
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yeah the htc nexus will be a killer phone the 10 has been amazing so far just the update is annoying me and htc is not blame for that!
obk88 said:
yeah the htc nexus will be a killer phone the 10 has been amazing so far just the update is annoying me and htc is not blame for that!
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Does the htc come with the headphones like the international model?
malek777 said:
Does the htc come with the headphones like the international model?
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No headphones but i got my own bose ones
obk88 said:
Got my phone on April 29th only received one update so far which was on launch day. Im on 1.21.666.1
I was wondering if i can use the htc unlocked NA RUU from their website to upgrade my firmware?
Contacted bell about the update they have no clue...i dont think they are selling well in Canada...i dont think they are taking the firmware update seriously so i was looking at other options.
I would really appreciate it if someone can help me
Thank You
***RECEIVED THE OTA UPDATE IN THE MORNING MAY 26TH***
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Hi how was the 1.53 update for you... I'm sceptical sometimes of updates... So just wondering if you feel your phone is better performance after installing the update or not? Appreciate any opinion on this thanks!
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At&t oreo update

Come on AT&T where is our Oreo update, you're last again !
The AT&T Oreo is here! Finally
Still waiiting here, checked ATT website no indication of the update there, is it a beta or a phased rollout?
Jim Jehosophat said:
Still waiiting here, checked ATT website no indication of the update there, is it a beta or a phased rollout?
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Maybe they stopped, I had one unexpected reboot so far...never had one before.
I got it on June 6th
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On at&t no Oreo here yet. Though they say at&t released it..NO THEY DIDN'T !
Jim Jehosophat said:
Still waiiting here, checked ATT website no indication of the update there, is it a beta or a phased rollout?
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On at&t no Oreo here yet. Though they say at&t released it..NO THEY DIDN'T !
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Huh.. well then I guess I lucked out ?
I think you might be one of the lucky beta testers.
I got the update. Last week.
ATT site is live with the update, still nothing for me and software update check doesn't show anything.
What am I missing here?
Ok, I need advice....I'm in Japan for work I had to change to a local sim to get coverage, I don't have the ATT sim with me. How do I get the OTA update?
I believe that is the reason the update isn't materializing.
Anyone in the US get the update yet
Has anyone on AT&T in the US with an H871 received the Oreo update yet. I'm on the east coast and nothing here
louvass said:
Has anyone on AT&T in the US with an H871 received the Oreo update yet. I'm on the east coast and nothing here
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If you look at my post (the literal 2nd post) on June 6th, I've received it.
Guys nobody can make the kdz official for h871 and not to use the h873 ore? how is that possible that there isn't any kdz for at&t
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Has anyone on AT&T in the US with an H871 received the Oreo update yet. I'm on the east coast and nothing here
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Are you using an AT&T sim?
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RagedElimanator said:
Are you using an AT&T sim?
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Yes I am, I have the H871 and still nothing here. I did a factory reset also and nothing
Spoke with AT&T
I chatted with ATT today and they said it was an issue with them, that my phone should have gotten the update. I have to wait for 24 hours to see if it updates they will email me tomorrow to see if I got it, though I have to check it manually. I suggest anyone that didn't get the Oreo update to chat with att from the website and they will get it for you.
there is any chance to get one f...ing official kdz for the att&t? how is that possible that nobody can create or make a official kdz for the att&t
Jim Jehosophat said:
Ok, I need advice....I'm in Japan for work I had to change to a local sim to get coverage, I don't have the ATT sim with me. How do I get the OTA update?
I believe that is the reason the update isn't materializing.
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no really, I mean what you need is a internet connection.
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Some of you have already received the Oreo update ... or for some reason AT & T stopped the updates
A few days ago I bought a LG G6 H871 (AT & t) and I thought that I was going to get Oreo immediately and still nothing happens ... I have read several forums and some are updated but others are not.
So I never received the update after AT&T when they said they "pushed" it to my phone. Then today chatted them again for 30 mins they couldn't do a thing. A supervisor called me and spoke to me for 10 minutes asking for the build number the IEMI. His final response was that AT&T did not push the update just the base band version so the phone can receive the update from yep LG. He gave me LG'S 80 number spoke to them they said Google actually pushes the update not LG.. I said so why did you open this big deal update center then she didn't have an answer.What a joke. I'm still thinking of moving onto an iPhone as much as I hate saying that but the Android updates just don't cut it and with locked boot loaders what's the diff. AT&T said the update has been available for the G6 (H871) since June 5th... SO WHERE THE HELL IS IT, I give up
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So I never received the update after AT&T when they said they "pushed" it to my phone. Then today chatted them again for 30 mins they couldn't do a thing. A supervisor called me and spoke to me for 10 minutes asking for the build number the IEMI. His final response was that AT&T did not push the update just the base band version so the phone can receive the update from yep LG. He gave me LG'S 80 number spoke to them they said Google actually pushes the update not LG.. I said so why did you open this big deal update center then she didn't have an answer.What a joke. I'm still thinking of moving onto an iPhone as much as I hate saying that but the Android updates just don't cut it and with locked boot loaders what's the diff. AT&T said the update has been available for the G6 (H871) since June 5th... SO WHERE THE HELL IS IT, I give up
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Since June 5 and nothing happens, incredible! I tried to use LG BRIDGE, but I received a notification '' Verification error '' so I do not even use LG BRIDGE to update it, it's for these reasons that phone companies and manufacturers lose prestige, I think that just like you will use IPHONE once again . less problems.

[ASHB] OTA Firmware + September security patch download available

Enjoy
hayabusa1300cc said:
Enjoy
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It's not available for my us unlocked version yet
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It's not available for my us unlocked version yet
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Unlocked typically gets the update after all the carriers push out their update. It's the downside of buying the unlocked version.
I kinda don't understand this. How are these updates linked to carriers? I thought these updates are made available over the internet, so if I am on wifi internet, with no sim inside my phone, what any carrier has to do with this update? What am I missing here? These updates are not available on samsung servers?
I recently bought a Nokia 8110 4g phone. Tried to update its firmware with no success over wifi (KaiOS). As soon as I took out the SIM, it found the update and updated with no problem.
Why my Note 10+ would be linked to any carrier? I did not bought it through a carrier and it is not unlocked. It is bought from Singapore and it is SM-N975F/DS (Global) version, while I am being in Europe.
Can someone shed some light into this?
Samsung holds on the Unlocked firmware update until the carrier's start pushing. At least in the USA.
Yeah, but it is unclear to my what is "carrier pushing" and why it is needed. Over the internet, Samsung servers could do this w/o any form of carrier involvement or knowledge. Why "carrier" is in in this chain?!? It is like my Windows would be updated only when my internet service provider wants it.
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Yeah, but it is unclear to my what is "carrier pushing" and why it is needed. Over the internet, Samsung servers could do this w/o any form of carrier involvement or knowledge. Why "carrier" is in in this chain?!? It is like my Windows would be updated only when my internet service provider wants it.
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Exactly, Google and handset manufacturers need to step in! Imagine if Apple let carriers modify iOS! That would never happen! That was a good analogy by the way! :good:
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I kinda don't understand this. How are these updates linked to carriers? I thought these updates are made available over the internet, so if I am on wifi internet, with no sim inside my phone, what any carrier has to do with this update? What am I missing here? These updates are not available on samsung servers?
I recently bought a Nokia 8110 4g phone. Tried to update its firmware with no success over wifi (KaiOS). As soon as I took out the SIM, it found the update and updated with no problem.
Why my Note 10+ would be linked to any carrier? I did not bought it through a carrier and it is not unlocked. It is bought from Singapore and it is SM-N975F/DS (Global) version, while I am being in Europe.
Can someone shed some light into this?
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Same thought. I stay here in Singapore & I bought it directly from Samsung, until now no OTA update. In Singapore, network providers never lock any smartphone, but 3 major networks here have different CSC (SIN/STH/MM1), mine was the non-network Singapore CSC which is XSP, still to no avail. I am forced to update via odin because of this.
big_ipaq said:
Yeah, but it is unclear to my what is "carrier pushing" and why it is needed. Over the internet, Samsung servers could do this w/o any form of carrier involvement or knowledge. Why "carrier" is in in this chain?!? It is like my Windows would be updated only when my internet service provider wants it.
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This is because the carriers can customise the firmwares for their network. (add in extra apps; turn options on or off etc.) so therefore the carriers have to approve each and every new firmware that's developed by Samsung.
Samsung will do the actual "pushing" of the carrier-cusomised firmware, but only once the carrier gives them permission to do so.
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This is because the carriers can customise the firmwares for their network. (add in extra apps; turn options on or off etc.) so therefore the carriers have to approve each and every new firmware that's developed by Samsung.
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This is most probably stupid and needs to stop.
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This is most probably stupid and needs to stop.
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That's highly unlikely to happen.
Carrier customisations are fundamental to how the industry is currently working
Can you give me a sample of this "carrier customization"? Fundamental to carriers or to us the customers?
It's most likely contractual.
So essentially, Samsung waits for the carriers to modify their firmware, release that first then release their UNCHANGED firmware/security patch to the unlocked devices...
That is such a crap model. Common sense would say to release what you can first... This would also push the carriers to release these updates in a much timelier manner as there is no benefit to be on carrier software if the patches are months behind the unlocked devices...
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So essentially, Samsung waits for the carriers to modify their firmware, release that first then release their UNCHANGED firmware/security patch to the unlocked devices...
That is such a crap model. Common sense would say to release what you can first... This would also push the carriers to release these updates in a much timelier manner as there is no benefit to be on carrier software if the patches are months behind the unlocked devices...
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LOL, you must be new to Samsung devices!
I kid, I kid. But seriously. It sucks, but it's reality. Benn that way since at least the S8.
I don't show any updates available for my Korean 10+ 5g yet either
Mr. Orange 645 said:
LOL, you must be new to Samsung devices!
I kid, I kid. But seriously. It sucks, but it's reality. Benn that way since at least the S8.
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This has been the case since the Galaxy S2, if not earlier.
I suspect (but don't know) that Samsung have some form of contractual obligation to the networks to not release any new features etc. until the network devices (don't forget some networks may have paid a lot to Samsung to have an "exclusive" on the handset when it was released) have had a chance to get said feature.
stuclark said:
This has been the case since the Galaxy S2, if not earlier.
I suspect (but don't know) that Samsung have some form of contractual obligation to the networks to not release any new features etc. until the network devices (don't forget some networks may have paid a lot to Samsung to have an "exclusive" on the handset when it was released) have had a chance to get said feature.
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Didn't even realize they had unlocked models going back that far. I has an S3 and a Note 2, but back then I was on Verizon so there was no thought of carrier unlocked models. It was a V model or nothing, LOL. My next Galaxy after those was an S7Edge, but they were all still carrier exclusive models. I had T-Mobile by them, so I had a G935T. They eventually came out with a G935U, I think, but I never had one.
It wasn't until the S8/+ they had the universal hardware for all carriers, and that's also when I really got back into the Samsung devices and started flashing U1 and U firmware. That was my first experience with unlocked vs carrier model updates. I didn't realize the update situation had been that way since nlthr S2, other than Samsung has always been slow with updates.
Yeah, I said earlier it was likely contractual. Like you I don't know that for sure, but that's the only thing I can think of.
big_ipaq said:
Yeah, but it is unclear to my what is "carrier pushing" and why it is needed. Over the internet, Samsung servers could do this w/o any form of carrier involvement or knowledge. Why "carrier" is in in this chain?!? It is like my Windows would be updated only when my internet service provider wants it.
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because some carriers like to test the updates and ensure their services andbloatware are working before pushing an update.. last i checked tho sprint and tmobile use Samsung fota servers.. vzw of course just has to use their own servers.. att does as well..
even if u sign up to use samsungs efota advanced it clearly indicates will not work with vzw or att devices...
as far as the rest of the world i have no idea lol

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