I'm just curious and it's most likely not able to be done. But I was wondering if it was possible to flash PSP firmware to the xperia play I'm 99% sure you can't do it but I was curious so I thought I'd ask.Because if it was possible then you could modify it to work with the plays controls I don't know much about PSP firmware but it is significantly hacked.
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I think not, besides not having the source code of the FW, all hardware is different in a lot of work would be necessary to attempt to carry, something almost impossible to summarize.
The only way it might ever be possible is through emulation (just like dolphin can emulate the wii system menu) But we will never see psp emulation on an android phones for many many years. The hardware just isn't powerful enough yet.
i figured as much and the source code of sony is closed thanks for the replies guys
Ive been reading up on psp firmware etc and i found that there is a universal nand backup. If you changed the partitions and mac address and all that and a few other miscelanious things would it be possible then?
psxpetey said:
Ive been reading up on psp firmware etc and i found that there is a universal nand backup. If you changed the partitions and mac address and all that and a few other miscelanious things would it be possible then?
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The fact that a device has a full nand backup, doesn't mean that it can be put on another device. It takes serious work just to port one form of android to another android device that doesn't support it, so even if it was possible it'd take a LONG time.
completely impossible for more reasons than I can begin to even list.
the hardware architectures of the devices are so dramatically different for one thing. Besides, you would totally lose any and all phone functionality. It would make more sense to simply buy a PSP or a PSPgo if you want the sliding form factor....
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just wondering if there are any alternative systems that would run on the evo (other then Ubuntu/Debian)
love android but i just like to experiment with things and mess around
like maybe other phone systems
I hear that some guys are working on putting Windows ME on it...
Windows ME...lol. I remember those days.
There was a system called Meego that I heard about somewhere. I'm not too familiar with it, but its worth a shot for you to look into.
The logical route would be to develop something else based on the Linux kernel since it's open-source and available, but by the time you've matched hardware and got features working, you'll have basically rebuilt a core Android system anyway, right? It's just another Linux distro, really.
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i hear that some guys are working on putting windows me on it...
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lmao!!!!
Winner!!!!!!!!!!!
Hi Everyone,
I've been a long time iOS user and am thinking of switching to the galaxy S3. I've done coding on linux machines for a long time so I'm comfortable with the unix os still had some general questions:
1) If I install a custom rom, and then att pushes out jelly bean in october, do I need to flash back to the stock rom and kernel before I can update to the regular rom? Is there an easier way?
2) The headphones for my ios device allow me to control the volume directly via +/- button on them? If I plug them into the GS3, will it still work that way?
3) It seems like most of the flashing tools are windows based. I have a windows desktop at home but usually travel with a MBP and have a linux box at my lab. Is there a tool that I can use on all 3 Os's? I realize that I can set up a virtual machine on my mac but why waste the space if I don't have to?
4) Just to make sure, netflix works on this right? Also, if I have a flv file or a mkv file, there's no need to convert?
5) Finally, a less technical note: Is there a decent equivalent of applecare, or if it breaks I need to send it out for a long time, get an evaluation, etc etc. Does samsung do something like a cross-ship?
Thank you for your help and time! I I've been on the fence of whether to switch for a while so any help is much appreciated .
alphaace1 said:
Hi Everyone,
I've been a long time iOS user and am thinking of switching to the galaxy S3. I've done coding on linux machines for a long time so I'm comfortable with the unix os still had some general questions:
1) If I install a custom rom, and then att pushes out jelly bean in october, do I need to flash back to the stock rom and kernel before I can update to the regular rom? Is there an easier way?
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You will need to update back to stock rom/kernel and probably unroot. Personally I would just wait until new roms are released that are based on sammy JB. Jellybean is currently out in aosp format, which is to say it doesn't have any samsung software or coding in it.
alphaace1 said:
2) The headphones for my ios device allow me to control the volume directly via +/- button on them? If I plug them into the GS3, will it still work that way?
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Yes
alphaace1 said:
3) It seems like most of the flashing tools are windows based. I have a windows desktop at home but usually travel with a MBP and have a linux box at my lab. Is there a tool that I can use on all 3 Os's? I realize that I can set up a virtual machine on my mac but why waste the space if I don't have to?
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Heimdel can get the job done on linux/mac but I believe it isn't available for the s3 yet. There are some posts talking about how to set up the s3 in these forums if you do a little searching. I use windows so haven't done much searching personally.
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4) Just to make sure, netflix works on this right? Also, if I have a flv file or a mkv file, there's no need to convert?
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Netflix works. Download MX player as it'll play pretty much everything. If using one of the jellybean roms make sure you download the flash apk so that it can be side loaded as flash is no longer on google play store.
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5) Finally, a less technical note: Is there a decent equivalent of applecare, or if it breaks I need to send it out for a long time, get an evaluation, etc etc. Does samsung do something like a cross-ship?
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I'm not sure
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5) Finally, a less technical note: Is there a decent equivalent of applecare, or if it breaks I need to send it out for a long time, get an evaluation, etc etc. Does samsung do something like a cross-ship?
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You go to the carriers store and they give you a new one or have them send you a new one and you just ship back the old one in the same box. This is the real world, you deal with the carrier, not the manufacture
Or buy warranty from a 3rd party like square trade.
gunnyman said:
Or buy warranty from a 3rd party like square trade.
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Squaretrade is well worth it IMO. It's when you don't have insurance that you wish you did... (trust me, lol)
aironite said:
Squaretrade is well worth it IMO. It's when you don't have insurance that you wish you did... (trust me, lol)
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I might as well own stock in Squaretrade.
Currently I am having an issue with 15 HTC wildfire S's.
Our company put on our own app onto different devices (Samsung Xcovers, Galaxy aces).
7 out of the 15 won't allow the app to work, force closing it every time we open it. I have already tried hard resetting the device and re installing several version of our app yet it still wont work on 7 of them.
The other 8 however do work, and the only difference between them we can find is the software number.
software number for devices not working - 2.26.401.3
software number for devices working - 2.13.401.3
I am guessing that I will be flashing the phone at some point to fix this, but I thought I would check before I end up breaking my client's phones
(I've only ever flashed my personal phone)
Is there anyway to change the software number? If so how?
Hi, and welcome to XDA.
If I may ask, what kind of app is it ? I've never heard of an app being broken on Gingerbread :/
omnomnomkimiiee said:
Hi, and welcome to XDA.
If I may ask, what kind of app is it ? I've never heard of an app being broken on Gingerbread :/
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Thanks,
It is basically a taxi management system app where the driver receives jobs and navigation details from base. We use the same .APK across all the different phones we deal with (which i'm sure can cause some compatibility issues).
Doesn't sound like something super hardcore, theoretically gingerbread apps are supposed to be horizontally and forwards-compatible, especially since your app runs fine on 8 phones.
Changing the software number won't fix it, at worst it has something to do with a small line of code that changed during the version updates. Flashing won't do any harm to the phones, be sure to backup first just in case.
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Doesn't sound like something super hardcore, theoretically gingerbread apps are supposed to be horizontally and forwards-compatible, especially since your app runs fine on 8 phones.
Changing the software number won't fix it, at worst it has something to do with a small line of code that changed during the version updates. Flashing won't do any harm to the phones, be sure to backup first just in case.
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OK then.
Thank you very much for the response
I will go have a word with our programmer about it and get him to check his code.
Why is my phone cooler than my Kindle Fire tablet? I don't mean hardware. My phone has obviously better hardware than the Kindle. What I mean is why do apps behave differently, in fact better, on my phone than on my KF?
As an example, the Kindle Reader app on my phone shows a book browser within the app when I search for books. On the KF when I want to browse books, the app opens up Amazon's web site in a browser (not the nicest of interfaces for a small screen).
Another example is the Dolphin browser. On my phone, pressing the back button (on this web site for example) actually goes to the previous page whereas on the KF I have to press the back button at least twice and often more in order to get to the previous page; sometimes I have to time it just right, too.
There are a lot of little things like those examples that make my phone cooler in spite of its significantly smaller screen.
In case it matters, I have CM10.1 Android 4.2.2 on the KF and the phone has stock Google Android 4.2.2 that came with the phone. All the apps are presumably the same, having been download from the Play Store.
Can anyone explain this difference? Thanks.
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Why is my phone cooler than my Kindle Fire tablet? I don't mean hardware. My phone has obviously better hardware than the Kindle. What I mean is why do apps behave differently, in fact better, on my phone than on my KF?
As an example, the Kindle Reader app on my phone shows a book browser within the app when I search for books. On the KF when I want to browse books, the app opens up Amazon's web site in a browser (not the nicest of interfaces for a small screen).
Another example is the Dolphin browser. On my phone, pressing the back button (on this web site for example) actually goes to the previous page whereas on the KF I have to press the back button at least twice and often more in order to get to the previous page; sometimes I have to time it just right, too.
There are a lot of little things like those examples that make my phone cooler in spite of its significantly smaller screen.
In case it matters, I have CM10.1 Android 4.2.2 on the KF and the phone has stock Google Android 4.2.2 that came with the phone. All the apps are presumably the same, having been download from the Play Store.
Can anyone explain this difference? Thanks.
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The phone's hardware was designed with 4.2.2 in mind and the Kindle was designed for a forked rendition of GB.
Guitarman2010 said:
The phone's hardware was designed with 4.2.2 in mind and the Kindle was designed for a forked rendition of GB.
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Then perhaps I do not understand what Android is. I was under the impression it was an OS with a defined API such that it would look (theming aside) and behave the same on different hardware (with obvious exceptions like not having bluetooth functionality on KF). Your statement would indicate that it is very heavily hardware dependent and that somehow app developers take into account the plethora of different hardware platforms and choose to behave in different manners on different devices. If this is the case, then it's an illogically designed system.
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Then perhaps I do not understand what Android is. I was under the impression it was an OS with a defined API such that it would look (theming aside) and behave the same on different hardware (with obvious exceptions like not having bluetooth functionality on KF). Your statement would indicate that it is very heavily hardware dependent and that somehow app developers take into account the plethora of different hardware platforms and choose to behave in different manners on different devices. If this is the case, then it's an illogically designed system.
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Running 4.2.2 on a system that was meant for GB results in some things not working right....
pfederighi said:
Why is my phone cooler than my Kindle Fire tablet?
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Another example is the Dolphin browser. On my phone, pressing the back button (on this web site for example) actually goes to the previous page whereas on the KF I have to press the back button at least twice and often more in order to get to the previous page; sometimes I have to time it just right, too.
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Can anyone explain this difference? Thanks.
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The browser thing I think can be explained. If you are zoomed in on a page, if you press the back button, it will zoom out to the whole page. The second tap of the back button takes you back to the previous page.
Does this help / make sense?
sent from The Muffinator (it's a kindle fire running cm10.1)
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The browser thing I think can be explained. If you are zoomed in on a page, if you press the back button, it will zoom out to the whole page. The second tap of the back button takes you back to the previous page.
Does this help / make sense?
sent from The Muffinator (it's a kindle fire running cm10.1)
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That would make sense if it was the same behavior on my phone. Thanks, though.
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Then perhaps I do not understand what Android is. I was under the impression it was an OS with a defined API such that it would look (theming aside) and behave the same on different hardware (with obvious exceptions like not having bluetooth functionality on KF). Your statement would indicate that it is very heavily hardware dependent and that somehow app developers take into account the plethora of different hardware platforms and choose to behave in different manners on different devices. If this is the case, then it's an illogically designed system.
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That would make sense if it was the same behavior on my phone. Thanks, though.
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I think you're missing the point. The Kindle Fire was never made to run apps from the Google app store, and Google Play apps are rarely made for a modified Kindle Fire, running JB, and a custom kernel made from the ground up. Android is versatile, but it's not perfect. There are many apps that work well on some devices but not others. Looking at the reviews of any app in the Play store should be enough to convince you of that.
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Running 4.2.2 on a system that was meant for GB results in some things not working right....
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Why? Does the Android code really have such code as:
if (running_on_older_hardware)
{
make_all_apps_less_cool(); // because we only like newer hardware, even if it's possible for the older hardware to function
}
What little I know of OS design is that if you want your OS to be used aon a wide variety of hardware (which seems to be the design goal of Google in their relentless pursuit of world domination), the API should be as hardware independent as possible and that all hardware access should be done through the API. The very fact that (most) apps are written in Java and compiled to bytecode dictate that they have to use the API. Is the functionality difference because there is some sort of proprietary ROM that Android and certain apps know about that doesn't exist on the KF? And this ROM makes apps behave cooler?
Is it a memory issue? Does 4.2.2 expect to have a different memory/segmentation model? Or a different cache model? Or simply ungodly amounts more memory?
The only runtime software difference I could tell between my phone and my KF is that the per app memory limit on the KF is set to 256 MB whereas on the phone it is 512 MB.
Are there dynamic libraries/frameworks/apks on my phone that are not included in stock/CM10.1 4.2.2 that most apps are aware of and use? Can I copy them to the KF?
Thanks.
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Why? Does the Android code really have such code as:
if (running_on_older_hardware)
{
make_all_apps_less_cool(); // because we only like newer hardware, even if it's possible for the older hardware to function
}
What little I know of OS design is that if you want your OS to be used aon a wide variety of hardware (which seems to be the design goal of Google in their relentless pursuit of world domination), the API should be as hardware independent as possible and that all hardware access should be done through the API. The very fact that (most) apps are written in Java and compiled to bytecode dictate that they have to use the API. Is the functionality difference because there is some sort of proprietary ROM that Android and certain apps know about that doesn't exist on the KF? And this ROM makes apps behave cooler?
Is it a memory issue? Does 4.2.2 expect to have a different memory/segmentation model? Or a different cache model? Or simply ungodly amounts more memory?
The only runtime software difference I could tell between my phone and my KF is that the per app memory limit on the KF is set to 256 MB whereas on the phone it is 512 MB.
Are there dynamic libraries/frameworks/apks on my phone that are not included in stock/CM10.1 4.2.2 that most apps are aware of and use? Can I copy them to the KF?
Thanks.
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Proper communication between the API and the hardware is still dependent on the kernel. Considering your phone's kernel was likely produced by a team of paid programmers and the KF's 3.0.x kernel was made by maybe a small handful of people with most of the work done by one man, for FREE, I'm sure there is plenty of possibility for something not working as efficiently as it could.
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Proper communication between the API and the hardware is still dependent on the kernel. Considering your phone's kernel was likely produced by a team of paid programmers and the KF's 3.0.x kernel was made by maybe a small handful of people with most of the work done by one man, for FREE, I'm sure there is plenty of possibility for something not working as efficiently as it could.
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And I truly do appreciate the hard work of the many hackers who put together kernels, boot loaders, recovery programs, apps, etc. I hope someday to join their ranks.
I was under the impression that there was a stock kernel as well as a stock OS and that the only real difference from one system to another was the boot procedure and the selection of drivers (with stubs or emulation for missing hardware/features). I take it that then this not the case.
I have an old tablet that's essentially unknown to the internet. The model number is AT-8077B(-USA), which apparently belongs to the manufacturer Asiatech 52, but I also found the manufacturer listed as "intel" somewhere during my rooting attempts. Either way, this device seems to be rather rare and obscure. It also seems to have an OEM that lacks the update functionality entirely. There's nothing regarding updates anywhere in the Settings app. The fccid.io website has a User Manual for it, but that doesn't have anything at all more advanced than turning it on, charging it and using the Browser app.
Since it's very old, it has Android 4.4.4 installed, which is essentially useless nowadays. As far as I could tell, anything remotely modern needs Android API 21+ because of TLSv1.2 support, so the tablet, while in good shape technologically, is essentially unusable.
I'm now trying to get anything with API 21 or higher onto this thing. I managed to root it with iRoot, but I'm completely lost regarding a modern Android. I thought if I can't find an actual Android build to put on it, I could use a custom ROM, but every guide I found has huge warning boxes telling me I need to follow the exact steps for my specific device at one point or another, and those simply don't exist.
I there some kind of generic guide (and ROM) I can use to get this tablet to operate with API 21+? I don't need a whole lot from it, but it's barely managing to load some websites while most apps either crash or fail to load anything, both of which I've deduced are caused by the outdated TLS/Android API. I really don't care what exactly ends up on the thing as long as I can install APKs and use them without getting error messages regarding API 21+.
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I have an old tablet that's essentially unknown to the internet. The model number is AT-8077B(-USA), which apparently belongs to the manufacturer Asiatech 52, but I also found the manufacturer listed as "intel" somewhere during my rooting attempts. Either way, this device seems to be rather rare and obscure. It also seems to have an OEM that lacks the update functionality entirely. There's nothing regarding updates anywhere in the Settings app. The fccid.io website has a User Manual for it, but that doesn't have anything at all more advanced than turning it on, charging it and using the Browser app.
Since it's very old, it has Android 4.4.4 installed, which is essentially useless nowadays. As far as I could tell, anything remotely modern needs Android API 21+ because of TLSv1.2 support, so the tablet, while in good shape technologically, is essentially unusable.
I'm now trying to get anything with API 21 or higher onto this thing. I managed to root it with iRoot, but I'm completely lost regarding a modern Android. I thought if I can't find an actual Android build to put on it, I could use a custom ROM, but every guide I found has huge warning boxes telling me I need to follow the exact steps for my specific device at one point or another, and those simply don't exist.
I there some kind of generic guide (and ROM) I can use to get this tablet to operate with API 21+? I don't need a whole lot from it, but it's barely managing to load some websites while most apps either crash or fail to load anything, both of which I've deduced are caused by the outdated TLS/Android API. I really don't care what exactly ends up on the thing as long as I can install APKs and use them without getting error messages regarding API 21+.
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Well.. if It's obscure, I don't think some developers made some roms for it yet.. However, you can use older versions of those apps or basically use alternate versions. If you're looking for Firefox, you can install the latest APK that supports Android 4.4.4. I use Android 4.4.4 still, and I understand the TLSv1.2 support is mere non-existant, and the best way to get app support is to use the latest version that supports API 21. Still though, I don't think there's any ROMS or custom recovery for your tablet (I don't know if CWM or TWRP is released for it), however you can still utilize the tablet even with its age.
Is there a chance I can just use something that's not tailor-made for it and still be fine or is it essentially guaranteed I'll brick it if I use anything that's designed for a different device?
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Is there a chance I can just use something that's not tailor-made for it and still be fine or is it essentially guaranteed I'll brick it if I use anything that's designed for a different device?
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Thing is using something designed for a different device... will always almost guarantee you will turn your tablet to a brick.