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New Case Review - Perforated Plastic

I was tired of waiting for SGP to get their $^#& together and decided to get yet another case.
I got this Perforated Retro Sports Case from Fommy.com.
http://www.fommy.com/view-full-page.asp?divid=Samsung&model=Samsung+Vibrant+T959&skuno=89299
I'm not sure what makes it "retro", but it is a nice looking case. It's a combination of hard plastic (the perforated area) and flexible plastic sides. It's thin - not like the Samsung mesh or Case Mate Barely There - thin, but probably a touch thinner than the average TPU case.
The case covers all sides, although you can still see a bit of the bezel. However, unlike a different case I tried, the amount that peeks out is consistent all around so it still looks nice.
Now, it's not without it's quirks - which may be deal breakers for some. First there are no cutouts for the speaker or the mic. The speaker is no big deal because the case is perforated - I didn't really notice much difference in volume of some music I tried. The mic, on the other hand, required a hammer and nail to deal with. It was pretty simple, though. I just lined up the hole from another case and then hammered a small nail through. It works just fine and I tested some calls with no reports of sound loss on the receiver's end.
The other "quirk" is that the cutouts on the top and sides are a little strange. The one on the volume side is really long and spans over the rocker keys and the strap-loop-hole. It's tapered well along the edges so it doesn't look bad or anything, just a little odd. The top opening also spans across both the jack and the usb port. This makes the bar along the top feel a little less solid than the rest of the flexible areas. I would have preferred they used two separate openings on top rather than one for the extra support. It's also cut rather close to the port, so if you are using a thick plug, you have to move the plastic up a bit. A little annoying, but at least you don't have to take the case off to plug it in like with some cases.
Things may change after a week of use, but my initial impression is positive. Overall, the case is very nice and is unique compared to the other stuff that's currently available. I do, however, think it's a bit pricey at $14.95+shipping (around $5 for super saver). But hey, money grows on trees.

Just ordered mine, From the looks of it, I think i will like this case better than the perforated plastic snap on case. This one looks like it offers full phone protection. tell me if the case would protect the phone in the event of a fall or drop. Rate its protection from a fall as either minimal, moderate, or maximum protection. I would appreciate your advice. Thanks

Since it covers all sides the protection is going to be better than the snap on. But its thin and pretty stiff so impact resistance is probably minimal to moderate at best, especially compared to silicone or TPU.
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thanks for the review, but i would be worried about knowing from the get go that i would need to use a hammer and nails to get a plastic case to work.

mikey98277 said:
thanks for the review, but i would be worried about knowing from the get go that i would need to use a hammer and nails to get a plastic case to work.
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Very true. I didn't try calls before making the hole so I'm not entirely sure it's necessary (although I imagine you would get a drop in sound quality with the hole covered).

I love this case. It is slim and perfectly follows the contours of the phone. The only thing that i didnt like was the hole missing over the microphone. But the texture and quality of the case is top notch. I have the mesh galaxy s back cover, the tpu grey argyle case, the body glove rubber case, the case mate tough case, and the carbon fiber samsung case. This one is the best of them all, I am very happy with this case

whoa, that looks like it'd be pretty ****in sweet if they made them 2 tone..

turbosix said:
whoa, that looks like it'd be pretty ****in sweet if they made them 2 tone..
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http://cgi.ebay.com/Black-Blue-XMat...268389?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item5d2b1cd525
Like this?

talltexan said:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Black-Blue-XMat...268389?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item5d2b1cd525
Like this?
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i love you more than you could ever know. :eek:
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turbosix said:
i love you more than you could ever know.
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they also have pink and white if your into that just search Xmatrix Vibrant case. They are cheaper than OP's so i dont know if they are the same or not but they do look the same.

I ordered this case on Tuesday and it came today. I am very impressed and the quality is much better then I expected.

Did the one you got off Ebay come with the hole for the mic already cut? Looks in their photos like it's there already.

No i ordered it from fommy and I forgot about the missing mic hole lol.

dashed said:
No i ordered it from fommy and I forgot about the missing mic hole lol.
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I ordered the blue and black one from fommy on thursday and received it today. Mine has the mic hole already cut out. In my opinion it feels just a little bit loose and kinda cheep. I like the way it looks and is very slim so I'm gonna give it some time to see if it grows on me or if i want something else

The black case I received fits extremely well and is not loose at all.

Great Deal on this Case
I'm getting one from Handhelditems.com found here xmatrix case and it's 10.99 and $2.89 shipping, plus I used coupon code 30vibrantsamsung and got 3.30 (30%) off. Price out the door - $10.54. Helluvuh deal

Got the case today. It sucks.
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[Review] Seidio Innocase for Vibrant

So the first thing I noticed was that this is not a slider, but a front-and-back snap case. The product description says "Unique snap together design and opening slot makes putting on and removing your case easy" but for some reason thought it was a slider like the Surface II for the Captivate. So, it's not their fault I misunderstood.
Since the front bezel cover is so thin, my initial impression is that it seems a little flimsy. The back cover is also quite thin and has no lining like other Seidio cases. I think this was a conscious decision in order to keep the case as slim as possible. The fit is quite precise, so I don't think the lining would really make much difference as there is no movement within the case.
Although the front bezel piece seems flimsy at first, it feels quite sturdy once you snap it to the back cover. I do have some concerns the clips that snap together will wear down over time if you remove the cover frequently. Only time will tell on that point.
It has Seidio's "signature soft touch finish" which is like a somewhat rubberized matte texture. It's quite nice, but attracts prints if you have oily fingers.
Overall, the fit is pretty much perfect and the cutouts are precise. It's very thin and has a nice texture. Of the six cases I have, it's certainly the nicest. It does, however, cost about as much as the other five cases combined - $29.95.
At $19.95, I'd probably recommend it in a second. At $30 I have some reservations, namely the long term durability of the clasps that keep the two pieces together.

Vibrant case wont work

should be gettin mine tomorrow....
i think they have 6 month warranty which actually does work. thats another big plus with this company.

kolyan said:
i think they have 6 month warranty with actually does work.
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Good to know. Hopefully won't have to use it.

Thanks for the review.
I'm still sticking to my white mesh case. I like really light and almost-not-there type of cases.

Thanks for the review, mine should be here within a day or so.
I ordered using the coupon code XMAS15 that was posted here. Not certain it's still valid though as the poster said it may expire on the 19th.
To the OP, how does the phone feel in your hands compared to what you had previously?
Also, did your volume buttons ever rattle? This is my only hesitation as the silicone case from t-mobile prevents the rattles I have from the volume rocker (which is loose).

s15274n said:
Thanks for the review, mine should be here within a day or so.
I ordered using the coupon code XMAS15 that was posted here. Not certain it's still valid though as the poster said it may expire on the 19th.
To the OP, how does the phone feel in your hands compared to what you had previously?
Also, did your volume buttons ever rattle? This is my only hesitation as the silicone case from t-mobile prevents the rattles I have from the volume rocker (which is loose).
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For reference, I've had TPU's, hybrid TPU/Plastic (the one with hard clear back), a generic version of the Barely-There, and a flexible plastic perforated case (XMatrix Cover from DayDeal).
The added size and weight is similar to the XMatrix perforated case. It's not as slim as the Barely-There style cases, but I think it's definitely lower profile than TPU or silicone.
The finish is nearly the same as the Barely-There knock off I have, but seems a little more durable (the coating on the old case started to come off within days). It's smooth, almost suede-like, but has a bit of tack when held in the hand. When put on a smooth surface, like a desk or on wood trim in a car, it does not stick at all. This is a bit of a negative for me. One thing I like about TPU cases is that they kind of stick when you lay them on a smoother surface (I usually put my phone on the wood trim next to the gear shift in my car) but are not tacky otherwise.
As for the volume buttons, mine are not loose so I can't really comment on that issue.
One other thing I've noticed in the last few days of using the case, is that bezel cover is attached to the bottom part in only a few spots so there is some give in the areas that aren't clipped together. I think they should have added a couple more contact points on each side. It's not terrible, but I'm a bit OCD so it probably bothers me more than it would most other people.

I'll report back, should be here anytime now.. thanks man.

Case is good, very slim and feels good in hand, not perfect like other Seidio products. Like the review states, the case is NOT slide-on which sucks. I dont know why they used clip-on design, with slide-on case could have been even slimmer and more durable. Fit is also nice, but also not perfect, phone is just a little loose in case, not noticeable right away until you play with it.

kolyan said:
Case is good, very slim and feels good in hand, not perfect like other Seidio products. Like the review states, the case is NOT slide-on which sucks. I dont know why they used clip-on design, with slide-on case could have been even slimmer and more durable. Fit is also nice, but also not perfect, phone is just a little loose in case, not noticeable right away until you play with it.
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After waiting around for the SGP Slider, I was also hoping this would be a sliding case.
I did get to hold a Captivate with the Innocase II, which is a slider, and the fit was pretty awful. It moves around a ton compared to this front-back type. I guess I'll take this style and more precise fit over slider with a bad fit.

Is it the bump on the Vibrant that is the main issue with a slider?
I was a bit let down to find this was a snap on the front/back design.

new coupon good through Sunday: MIX15
buy 2 products and get 15% off, free shipping for 2010

ordered one today from ebay for 18 and free shipping. thanks for the review and pics. Your pics make it look like it has a nice clean design in front.

djjeesh said:
ordered one today from ebay for 18 and free shipping. thanks for the review and pics. Your pics make it look like it has a nice clean design in front.
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it is nice and clean. my nexus one case fits better, but they probably had to make it clip-on design i guess for Vibrant bump

Nice review! I can't help but feel like Seidio threw this product together in a hurry, after they realized there are people with Vibrants. It just looks cheap compare to their other offerings.

Just got it. initial impressions:
1 feels great in the hand. Looks good too.
2 I absolutely hate how easy it un-snaps.
3 I want to know their return policy till they have a legit case like the ones I am accustomed too from seidio.
4 it's much more difficult to press power now.
EDIT: okay, found out how to do the return, just waiting to hear back from them.

[Review] Momax UltraThin Case

Just a quick review of one of the better cases that I have come across...for those who dont like TPU and soft cases were the lip around the screen would easily peel back, and dont feel like actual part of the phone...Seems to be the only option was to run with no case, or them clip on cases.
The Momax UltraThin is the best case for myself at the moment, offering all that I am after, a phone that is still slim, protects it from minor scratches...I admit, not much drop protection but then, even thicker cases dont always promise absolute protection.
Anyways, the case is well lipped, accurate and precise, the holes for the buttons are well placed and shaped, overall very easy, as if there was no case on. The camera hole is well flushed to the camera itself.
Most of all this case actually clips on very tight and firm, just the way I like it...there is no give or any gap or loose points like TPU cases or SGP Neos...its just a firm case, that makes you feel like you are holding onto a phone without any added bulk...
Plus, the paint job on it is absolutely stunning...pretty flawless, high quality product...for a fair price...Ill let the photos do the talking...
Cheers.

Nice and simple case. The price seems cool too, thanks for sharing the product, I'll have a look at it!

Looks very nice. Where did you get it from?

plisk3n said:
Looks very nice. Where did you get it from?
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I got mine on Ebay, shipping took about 1 week to New Zealand which is as slow as things get...

Also, is the material on the inside part of the case metal? I'm afraid it would scratch the plastic on the back of the phone if there's any rubbing.. ?

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Also, is the material on the inside part of the case metal? I'm afraid it would scratch the plastic on the back of the phone if there's any rubbing.. ?
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It is plastic, very smooth so I do not think it would scratch at all unless there is sand or other small hard particles between the case and phone.

What is different from other mesh cases ?

rouvax said:
What is different from other mesh cases ?
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There are no mesh that allows small dusts to get between case and phone I suppose? I believe it also comes in transparent as well...

Have the same case - price and quality are perfect. I like that comparing to original phone materials this case feels like good-old soft-touch back panel. Only drawback I can find is that this case can be scratched easily - after a month of carrying my phone mainly in the pocket there appeared lots of small scratches. I bet this is due to the material of the case.

is there any problem with voice conversation like other ebay cases ?
No gps problem ?

raver2046 said:
is there any problem with voice conversation like other ebay cases ?
No gps problem ?
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I havent had any issues with calls or GPS...

Not a fan of cases that expose the top or bottom of the phone so I am still looking while my S2 is in transit.
Thanks.

Bear Motion Cases

Anybody who is interested in the Bear motion cases from Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BVWJ94E/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
These are very nice thin and light hard case that will give light protection for your phone while still being stylish. My two case came in the other day (Black/Gray). I have not receive my One yet but the cases feel real nice in the hand. So if you are looking for a thin and light case, give these a shot.
Pics taken with my Nexus 4:

smooth3d said:
Anybody who is interested in the Bear motion cases from Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BVWJ94E/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
These are very nice thin and light hard case that will give light protection for your phone while still being stylish. My two case came in the the other day (Black/Gray). I have not receive my One yet but the cases feel real nice in the hand. So if you are looking for a thin and light case, give these a shot.
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Hey smooth,
Thanks for the pics - are these textured on the inside? It seems they could cause scratching to the back and sides on the phone while being shifted around.

D3luSi0n4L said:
Hey smooth,
Thanks for the pics - are these textured on the inside? It seems they could cause scratching to the back and sides on the phone while being shifted around.
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Yes they have the same finish as the outside. It's hard to explain but it feels really smooth so I doubt its going the scratch the phone.

It actually feels a bit smoother on the inside. It's barely discernible, but it's there. My fingertips are well tuned, thanks to my woodworking.
It's a fantastic case, but offers almost zero screen protection. If that works for you, $6 from Amazon (US) can't be beat.

smooth3d said:
Yes they have the same finish as the outside. It's hard to explain but it feels really smooth so I doubt its going the scratch the phone.
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CocheseUGA said:
It actually feels a bit smoother on the inside. It's barely discernible, but it's there. My fingertips are well tuned, thanks to my woodworking.
It's a fantastic case, but offers almost zero screen protection. If that works for you, $6 from Amazon (US) can't be beat.
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Appreciate the responses, may have to pick one up.

Picked up a green one for 5.99 with Prime shipping. I like it a lot, the texture is real nice, and it is a real tight fit so I dont think it will be moving around in the case, I have taken it on and off a lot in order to show people my nice aluminum phone., and have yet to notice any scratches though you do have to be careful taking it out of the case, as I said it is a tight fit. But Overall I really like the case, it really does offer almost 0 protection. It looks nice and feels nice. My one issue with the volume buttons are a bit difficult to press with it on and it kinda feels like it is something I could make if I had a 3d printer, very thin. Someone who is looking for a real protective case can look elswhere, this is almost all about style.

I just got my phone and this is how it look like in the black case:
Sorry for the poor lighting!

Very nice! I just ordered the gray one from amazon because my poetic borderline case is taking forever to ship. Hopefully this case will give just the right amount of protection.
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I ordered some myself the other day. Even though they haven't arrived yet, they look very similar to the ROCK Quicksand cases they made for the Galaxy S3, and HOX. I'm just not digging their logo on the back... I'll probably remove it somehow.

bought the blue one. coming in on monday

great thin case
I really like this case. The texture is superb and sublime. Just enough to barely feel. There are just a couple of things that could be improved to make this case perfect for me.
1) The lip at the corners is slighly recessed and the corners should wrap around the phone a bit more. Almost every time I drop a phone it lands on a corner and with this case it's possible the aluminum could take the impact.
2) Lose the SIM tray cutout.
3) I'd feel better about putting the phone face down if the lip was just a half millimeter higher.
4) Power button cutout isn't quite cutout enough. It should be like the usb cutout which is perfect.
5) Volume cutout is just a bit 'sharp'. I wish the edges were smoothed a bit.
That said, these are nitpicky items and more like suggestions I guess. I would endorse this product.

Galaxy S4 cases
New to the forum. Anyone has suggestions regarding cases for Galaxy S4? There are so many choices out there. Just got confused easily.
I used to have a Bear Motion wallet case for my note and loved it. They seem to have the same wallet case available for S4.
But, I really want to have something simpler this time around. Any suggestions for a snap on case?

Same quality and fitment as Incipio and Spigen @ only $5.99... You can't beat em!

I have the Bear Motion case in grey, and yes, it's definitely a nicely fitted, slim, grippy case. However, the rubbery texture DOES begin to wear off with time. The coating on the edges on the front corners of the case have begun to wear off, revealing grey plastic underneath. Fortunately, it does blend fairly well so it isn't much of an eyesore. Hopefully you'll be able to see what I mean from the attached picture.

leather case for HTC U11+ anyone?

Can somebody please manufacture a high quality leather case for the HTC U11+ ?
I can't find one online. Does it even exist yet?
Please let me know if you find a good leather case for it.
Thank you.
The case should offer enough protection while at the same time supporting the edge sense feature.

I used the included Clear plastic case, AND then purchased a high quality leather case from Piel Frama which has a pull tab.
The IPhone 7 plus case is a perfect fit for the U11+ with the included clear case.
I don't think that there will be many cases for this device as the U12 is 6 months away.

globalgpj said:
I used the included Clear plastic case, AND then purchased a high quality leather case from Piel Frama which has a pull tab.
The IPhone 7 plus case is a perfect fit for the U11+ with the included clear case.
I don't think that there will be many cases for this device as the U12 is 6 months away.
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can you show some picture about your leather case?

See attached photos.
Fits like a glove !

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See attached photos.
Fits like a glove !
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Great how much does it cost ?
what screen protection do you use (link please)?

See link below.
Hands down, Piel Frama makes the best quality leather cases in the world.
https://www.pielframa.com/en/producto/iphone-7-plus-cases/pull-style
There are a lot of colours and a couple of textures available.
I haven't used screen protectors for years. Not necessary if you use a pouch/case for protection.

globalgpj said:
See link below.
Hands down, Piel Frama makes the best quality leather cases in the world.
https://www.pielframa.com/en/producto/iphone-7-plus-cases/pull-style
There are a lot of colours and a couple of textures available.
I haven't used screen protectors for years. Not necessary if you use a pouch/case for protection.
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There are 4 small holes on the bottom right of the pouch. This allows for the speaker notification sounds to come through easily when the phone is in the pouch. Very clever. Perfect for this device.

This is one of the many problems with the leather cases on amazon. The product images are clearly fake.

I found this online,
https://www.casefanatic.com/htc/bus...r-cover-oneplus-5-oneplus-5t-htc-u11-htc-u11/
Have no idea about the quality but it looks good to my eyes :fingers-crossed:
Edit: The exact same case as above is available in aliexpress for half the price.
Edit: I found one more https://www.noreve.com/en/u11/3475-htc-u11-leather-cover.html
The above link is for U11 but they are currently in the process for making it for U11+ as well. Expensive but looks very high quality.

http://bit.ly/2CnzvQe

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Looks good but where is that magnetic thing to close the case?
Also how does the phone sit inside the case? I don't see a silicone cover glued inside the leather case...
Please show more pics of it.
Does it provide sufficient protection for the edges of the phone?
Are all buttons easily accessible?

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Looks good but where is that magnetic thing to close the case?
Also how does the phone sit inside the case? I don't see a silicone cover glued inside the leather case...
Please show more pics of it.
Does it provide sufficient protection for the edges of the phone?
Are all buttons easily accessible?
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I received it today (1-9) . Cannot find a magnet. So it will not close by itself. Inside there is a glued cover (plastic) Fits, nice. All buttons are accessible and all the microphones are accessible too. Smells like real leather. Nicely wrapped in a box and bubble plastic.

Noreve has 3 models available now for pre-order, I ordered one (back cover only), should get it by the end of the month...

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I received it today (1-9) . Cannot find a magnet. So it will not close by itself. Inside there is a glued cover (plastic) Fits, nice. All buttons are accessible and all the microphones are accessible too. Smells like real leather. Nicely wrapped in a box and bubble plastic.
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I also got the same a few days ago. https://goo.gl/9t2V3u
It is of a very good qualtity and smells like real leather. The top cover attatch to the bottom with a magnet. If it don't you have to bend the top cover to back and front a few times because the new leather is stiff. After that mine attach to the bottom without any problem.
But, the opening to the volume and power -button is too small for me. You need small fingertips or use your nail to reach them. Its also missing an opening for the led at the top so I can't see it when charging or messages has arrived. Also it is very hard to use the fingerprint scanner if you don't have small fingertips. I have inform the seller/company about this and they will probably fix i in the next batch, they say.
As I said the quality is very good, exept what I have mentioned but maybe a bit overdone. With this case the package feels very thick, with the plastic bed for the phone and quite thick leather on top of that again. Solid, looks very exclusive no doubt, but to mutch I think.

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I also got the same a few days ago. https://goo.gl/9t2V3u
It is of a very good qualtity and smells like real leather. The top cover attatch to the bottom with a magnet. If it don't you have to bend the top cover to back and front a few times because the new leather is stiff. After that mine attach to the bottom without any problem.
But, the opening to the volume and power -button is too small for me. You need small fingertips or use your nail to reach them. Its also missing an opening for the led at the top so I can't see it when charging or messages has arrived. Also it is very hard to use the fingerprint scanner if you don't have small fingertips. I have inform the seller/company about this and they will probably fix i in the next batch, they say.
As I said the quality is very good, exept what I have mentioned but maybe a bit overdone. With this case the package feels very thick, with the plastic bed for the phone and quite thick leather on top of that again. Solid, looks very exclusive no doubt, but to mutch I think.
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I got a new leather case today. https://goo.gl/ea8Jr4
It feels lighter and not so compact/heavy as the earlier mentioned case.
But this case as the earlier one is missing a hole/opening for the charger/message-LED. It seems that companies who make this leather cases is missing this. The LED is not visible on the phone until it lights up. On the first case I made a hole for it but on this one, if I make one, it will destroy one of the vertial seam.

fasst said:
I also got the same a few days ago. https://goo.gl/9t2V3u
It is of a very good qualtity and smells like real leather. The top cover attatch to the bottom with a magnet. If it don't you have to bend the top cover to back and front a few times because the new leather is stiff. After that mine attach to the bottom without any problem.
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You are right. After a few days of use I noticed there is a magnet. Sorry.

Received my noreve case, I got the synthetic leather one, back only ( there was a discount going on at the time, got it for 29€). Took about 20 days for delivery.
First impression is very positive, on first sight feels like really high quality, the synthetic leather seems to be of a high quality kind, fits perfectly... exept two things, one I knew about, the other one, I could live with.
First is the big cut outs for the squeeze feature, they look kinda ugly and we know that this feature works with most cases anyway... Thats why I got the black case to minimize this cutout...but still, not good.
Second thing is that the back mic cutout is not centered, mind you it doesn’t cover the mic, but just barely.
So in its current state, I wouldn’t buy it again, but having started a mail exchange with them, as it is a handmade on order brand, I think I will be able to place a special order without the cutout and with the mic hole centered correctly...
Will let you know how it goes...

Ok so my last update on the noreve case, I decided to return the one I got, didn't look good with the big cutouts for the squeeze feature...
Also they couldn't accomodate my idea for a case without these cutouts, as it would have been too expensive and too difficult for a one off case...
Back to square one, did not find a really nice case yet...

ziplepingouin said:
Ok so my last update on the noreve case, I decided to return the one I got, didn't look good with the big cutouts for the squeeze feature...
Also they couldn't accomodate my idea for a case without these cutouts, as it would have been too expensive and too difficult for a one off case...
Back to square one, did not find a really nice case yet...
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As I see the issue isn't in the case ...
sent from my translucent black hTc