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Project external keyboard possible in kindle fire ??

I love kindle fire! best tablet $200 ! love LCD screen 1024x600 IPS!!!
But .. need to put an external keyboard to use in college in order to enter text! future can be no such enhancement like the ipad have?

Not yet. The best option is likely based on activating the bluetooth capability that appears to be on the motherboard. Developers are looking at that but are focusing on the ICS alpha.
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When i am at home i use the app wifikeyboard.
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Would this work?
I have a Galaxy S2, which does support my bluetooth keyboard.
Could I use wifi keyboard with the phone and the kindle fire, type on the phone via bluetooth, then wifikeyboard copies it to the kindle fire?
Ive a BT keyboard on the way, so I will test it!

It has been stated multiple times in the dev forum that there is no Bluetooth in the fire.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1430473&page=3 from post 23 down.
Hashcode did mention the possibility of adding 3rd party USB Bluetooth support to 3.0 once it is stable.

three-p-o said:
It has been stated multiple times in the dev forum that there is no Bluetooth in the fire.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1430473&page=3 from post 23 down.
Hashcode did mention the possibility of adding 3rd party USB Bluetooth support to 3.0 once it is stable.
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Yes, I never said I was going to use bluetooth.
The bluetooth keyboard connects to my samsung galaxy s2.
I run wifikeyboard on the kindle fire and galaxy s2.
I type with the bluetooth keyboard, it copies onto the galaxy, then appears on the fire.
Its a long way round, but at least I can use an external device when I need to do a lot of typing.
Phil

philwaud said:
Yes, I never said I was going to use bluetooth.
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I think he was responding to the earlier poster who mentioned "activating" bluetooth

Yeah, didn't notice that you resurrected a dead thread and replied to ra0ul.

Just use OTG cable
Just do what I did: buy an OTG usb cable from amazon and then use Hashcode's latest 3.0 kernel. It will work like a charm!

jkhayworth said:
Just do what I did: buy an OTG usb cable from amazon and then use Hashcode's latest 3.0 kernel. It will work like a charm!
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With a keyboard such as this?
http://www.amazon.com/Leather-Keybo...?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1335741814&sr=1-13

Actually I believe USB 2.0 not supported at this time as it requires too much power. But any regular USB keyboard should work provided you use an OTG adapter. Also flash drives and such should work as well on hash's kernel!
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jacewt said:
With a keyboard such as this?
http://www.amazon.com/Leather-Keybo...?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1335741814&sr=1-13
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I havent been able to find a keyboard like those that will ship to the UK :-(
Phil

revival
def a thread to revive at this point, be nice to start posting some stats on who's getting what working with product info 'n such.
from Hashcode's 3.0 (ish) thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25505053&postcount=699
(if that link doesn't come out, just looky at post 699 of his kernal thread)
I just ordered an OTG cable from Amazon
... being shipped from China ... might be a while.
Might not even work, then I'm gonna get a keyboard, possibly
HDE 7" Tablet Stand with USB Keyboard - Black Faux Leather Carrying Case by PingTab ... from Amazon.
might work, or not. the powered hub seems like a novel idea, seeing as the KF will drain battery quick without a powered hub. I could mod a single in/out hub, but I don't fabricate much, so it'll be messy and kill time. murder. anyone know about one of these powered hubs for a single device already made up? hmmm

jacewt said:
With a keyboard such as this?
amazon. com/Leather-Keyboard-Tabletpc-Laptop-Notebook/dp/B004TJJPG8/ref=sr_1_13?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1335741814&sr=1-13
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I am using that keyboard to type this, it works great. A powered hub is not necessary, just a cheap ~$4 OTG cable. I plugged it in on boot and had no issues. I have only had the case/keyboard for an hour now. I'll report back with any issues if any pop up.
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sej11 said:
I am using that keyboard to type this, it works great. A powered hub is not necessary, just a cheap ~$4 OTG cable. I plugged it in on boot and had no issues. I have only had the case/keyboard for an hour now. I'll report back with any issues if any pop up.
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I just bought that keyboard and an OTG cable

Yea I like that case. I got a good question. Is there an OTG cable that would let me also keep charging the kindle. Basicly Male Micro USB to Female USB and Female Micro USB.

Does anyone one know to install the kernal? I cant find a tutorial

Just install Hashcode's latest ROM. It has the latest kernel.

Kindle fire keyboard?
sej11 said:
I am using that keyboard to type this, it works great. A powered hub is not necessary, just a cheap ~$4 OTG cable. I plugged it in on boot and had no issues. I have only had the case/keyboard for an hour now. I'll report back with any issues if any pop up.
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SEJ: I would love to do the same, I assume this is still working for you?
A couple of other questions. Have you rooted the operating system or are you using the original Kindle Fire OS? Did you need to install a kernal to get it to work? In reading consumer comments from kindle owners on the Amazon.com webpage, it sounds like this keyboard did not work for many people; but I'm wondering if you had to do something different on the software side (or were they all not bright enough to buy the OTG cable )?
Thanks!

AmyH2OEng said:
SEJ: I would love to do the same, I assume this is still working for you?
A couple of other questions. Have you rooted the operating system or are you using the original Kindle Fire OS? Did you need to install a kernal to get it to work? In reading consumer comments from kindle owners on the Amazon.com webpage, it sounds like this keyboard did not work for many people; but I'm wondering if you had to do something different on the software side (or were they all not bright enough to buy the OTG cable )?
Thanks!
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I have this keyboard too.
You do have to be rooted with a custom ROM and Kernel. Just root with the latest Kindle Fire Utility and it will install the latest TWRP Recovery. Then just flash(what I recommend) Hashcode's latest ROM because it has his latest Kernel with OTG support. In other words the keyboard will work.
Make sure you buy an OTG cable by the way...

USB Host Not Working

Hi guys. So the only thing I've done to my i747 is root it. I've tried both of the USB host apps in the market (USB Host Controller and StickMount) as well as the "SGS3-Easy-UMS" apk that's around, v1.2beta2 and v1.3beta. Can't attach any USB devices. All my flash drives are FAT32 and work well normally. I even ran the USB Host Diagnostics app and it confirmed that Android API, Rooted API, and Kernel "claim support" but no device is detected.
When I connect to sync, I can only do MTP transfers. This is why I looked into that EasyUMS apk because it apparently also allows to mount the phone on the PC as a USB Mass Storage device. During my search I see numerous people connecting flash drives, controllers, keyboards, and even a USB HDD to their sgs3's.
Because that apk requires busybox, and I have busybox, everything looked OK. However, I did once get an error from that APK about possible non-existant Kernel support. USB Host Diags disagree, as do many video tutorials.
Basically I'd like to know whether or not this is supposed to be working, and if not, then how do I go about making it work? I'd like to mount flash drives for easier use with Linux, and would like to mount the phone as UMS for the same reason. I would also like to use a USB Keyboard as well as a USB gamepad. Am I missing something? Are they all using the international?

Are you using a USB OTG cable?
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drothenberger said:
Are you using a USB OTG cable?
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got this one, a couple good reviews confirmed that it works with input devices: Amazon product# B005GI2VMG
i mean it's very possible that the seller just buys from random manufacturers without changing the listing. this one that i have is like the cheapest thing on the market so that may be the problem. i wouldn't mind trying a different one for <$5 w/ US shipping if that exists (recommendations?).

Same cable didn't work for me
I bought the same cable, but from a different seller. Amazon ID number B005N55WHI
And I have the same problem. Tried using it with several input devices and with several different roms and I couldn't make it work. Could it be a power issue? Does the USB device that it is being hooked up to have to be powered? I tried it with mice, keyboards, and flash drives, but all of those devices take their power from the bus, not an external source.

glad you posted. hmm. since we both have the same thing and they're both not working, i'm suspecting it's indeed the cable.
i read on a review of a different cable on Amazon where the guy cut open the connector and found no wire connected to one of the pins. i've had thinner-cable wires before that charged/transferred slower than others or didn't work at all on some higher-end devices, could really just be a cheap-out on the manufacturer's end.
i think i'd like to get a different cable. if anyone can recommend an inexpensive one that's confirmed working i'd appreciate it. so i don't have to shoot in the dark.

I got the one with Amazon ID B00871Q5PI and it worked for me. I tried a Dell USB keyboard, a USB mouse, and a USB DAC and they all worked. All take power from the bus.
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got this one.... http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005GI2VMG/ref=pe_175190_21431760_M2T1_ST1_3p_dp_1
would it make a difference if it says its for the galaxy s2 and not the s3? im guessing thats why i cant get it to work.

vvelvetelvis said:
got this one.... http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005GI2VMG/ref=pe_175190_21431760_M2T1_ST1_3p_dp_1
would it make a difference if it says its for the galaxy s2 and not the s3? im guessing thats why i cant get it to work.
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No, would not make a difference. USB OTG is a standard and for now all devices that have USB OTG work with all USB OTG cables. I've used a cheapass one from Ebay with my S2/Note/S3 for more than a year now.

solved for me
so i got the one drothenberger got (actually that particular link was out of stock for the seller so i got the other suggested one that looks exactly the same, title OTG for SGS3 - item# B00871Q5PI) and i'm in business!!!
someone replied to my negative review of the other one i got in the comments and they said theirs worked. i think they just have different products under the same label or lots of defective ones. i'd recommend to just get the ones that specifically say OTG for SGS3 - the extra dollar or whatever is worth it to save the trouble.
thanks again to everyone for the troubleshooting, hope this topic helps others resolve their issues.

[Q] usb keyboard issues on kindle fire

I have rooted my kindle fire and put both aokp ics rom and jandycane rom at different times on my kindle fire. I'm using an OTG cable. I've been able to get my usb keyboard working on my kindle, only it's very very spotty; I've seen people using mouses with their rooted kindles, but mine does not work at all; and as for putting in usb drives, that has yet to work, though I've read other posts and people have said it works.
My question: is there a way to get the connection working better? I'm using the Logitech MK320 mouse keyboard combo with eforCity OTG cable. Thanks in advance for all who respond.

synagr said:
I have rooted my kindle fire and put both aokp ics rom and jandycane rom at different times on my kindle fire. I'm using an OTG cable. I've been able to get my usb keyboard working on my kindle, only it's very very spotty; I've seen people using mouses with their rooted kindles, but mine does not work at all; and as for putting in usb drives, that has yet to work, though I've read other posts and people have said it works.
My question: is there a way to get the connection working better? I'm using the Logitech MK320 mouse keyboard combo with eforCity OTG cable. Thanks in advance for all who respond.
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Are you using a powered USB hub or trying to go keyboard into OTG cable?

danscxda said:
Are you using a powered USB hub or trying to go keyboard into OTG cable?
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I am using an OTG cable I bought on Amazon. It's the eforCity OTG cable, male micro usb to female usb.
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Most USB devices require more amperage to run properly than the kindle fire will provide, this is why for standard USB keyboards, mice, and flash drives it is best to use an externally powered USB hub which will provide the extra juice, look around a little bit there is plenty of information regarding this in the forums if you take the time to search. Fyi even with the powered hub some devices just will not work with the kf.
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synagr said:
I am using an OTG cable I bought on Amazon. It's the eforCity OTG cable, male micro usb to female usb.
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Same as what jlshady00 said:
Silly Amazon doesn't have the required 5 volts (or whatever unit of measurement, I forget), unlike most phones and other tablets, so you should use a powered hub. You will need Stick Mount https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...ickmount&hl=en to be able to see flash drives. I don't know about mice and keyboards. I assume the same thing.

jlshady00 said:
Most USB devices require more amperage to run properly than the kindle fire will provide, this is why for standard USB keyboards, mice, and flash drives it is best to use an externally powered USB hub which will provide the extra juice, look around a little bit there is plenty of information regarding this in the forums if you take the time to search. Fyi even with the powered hub some devices just will not work with the kf.
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Thanks for your input. I've searched through the pages and had seen that it could potentially require a powered hub. Then there were pages that said it would require hash's kernel 3.0, and many other different things. I mostly was wondering if I was doing anything wrong because other people have said they've got keyboards working. Especially since my keyboard would work for a while; in fact, I was able to write about three sentences on my kf before it wouldn't recognize the keyboard, so I thought maybe there was a better way to do it or I was missing a step. To be honest, I find it more efficient to write down specifically what you have and what you've done, and all the specific information relating to your problem, then ask. It's more direct and less confusing. If nothing else, getting a response is reassuring.

Yeah, the new roms such as jandycane come with hash's latest kernel included so if the rom has been updated within the past month or so you should be good, but check the info on the thread as it should be listed.
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So if I have the latest Jandycane on my KF, what keyboard/hub/whatever I need would you recommend me getting? I would love to be able to use a case with a built in keyboard but barring that anything would be awesome.

graywolfe42 said:
So if I have the latest Jandycane on my KF, what keyboard/hub/whatever I need would you recommend me getting? I would love to be able to use a case with a built in keyboard but barring that anything would be awesome.
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People seem to be having good luck with this one.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B004TJJPG8/ref=mp_s_a_1?qid=1350688656&sr=8-1&pi=SL75
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graywolfe42 said:
So if I have the latest Jandycane on my KF, what keyboard/hub/whatever I need would you recommend me getting? I would love to be able to use a case with a built in keyboard but barring that anything would be awesome.
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But if you have a case and keyboard already I would recommend getting a powered Usb hub. I was reluctant to get one at first, but like everyone who's posted on the subject, tit is currently the only other way to get a usb keyboard working properly. Thanks to everyone who helped point me in the right direction on this.

[Q] OTG Cable for Sprint LG Optimus G LS970

Hi I am new to this forum and i just purchased and unlocked my Optimus G. Now I'm looking into a OTG cable that may work on this phone as the sprint version, as you all know, does not support Micro SD cards for extra data storage. Now i know they have wireless HDD's that you can carry to store information and Bluetooth keyboards and mice that you can connect to the phone out of the box. But i had External HDD drives that are not wireless and a Wireless keyboard/mouse USB combo all that i would like to run on the phone at a cheap rate. I have read some places that OTG is possibly not capable on this phone. Can anyone verify that this is not possible. Again i am very tech savy and my phone is rooted and unlocked, so if all i need to do is change a kernel or install some files i can definately figure out how to do that. Can anyone clarify this for me and if it is possible put links to cables and tuts on how to do this? i couldn't necessarily find it when i was looking on XDA earlier, and its the only site i really trust for information about my phone.

"USB host", or what is commonly referred to as OTG, is not supported on this device. I'm not sure of the usb controller so I cannot say as to whether or not this is a hardware or software limitation. Either way, I consider this a serious shortcoming, especially on a flagship device.

I was hoping you wouldn't say that. Well if that is the case, can anyone verify if this is not possible because of the software or hardware. If it is because of the software is anyone trying to develop anything for this right now? Thanks again for the verification^
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the nexus 4 "doesnt support otg" yet people have modified a kernel to add the feature in. the device does NOT support 5v so you will need to power the hard drive or w/e with external power using a y-cable.
if we have the same usb controller as the nexus 4 then i would assume we'd have to do the exact same thing... custom kernel + y cable for external power. so try and get some kernel devs together and work on on getting that project started for the LS970 device if you really wanna see it happen.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2151159

autoprime said:
the nexus 4 "doesnt support otg" yet people have modified a kernel to add the feature in. the device does NOT support 5v so you will need to power the hard drive or w/e with external power using a y-cable.
if we have the same usb controller as the nexus 4 then i would assume we'd have to do the exact same thing... custom kernel + y cable for external power. so try and get some kernel devs together and work on on getting that project started for the LS970 device if you really wanna see it happen.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2151159
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I built in USB host and USB otg support and a art user reported it wasn't working. However I can through up a 3.4 kernel if someone has the cable and power to test it.
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If u send me a link to a y cable i will purchase one if that's what's needed. What are the risks to updating to this kernel you mention?....^ somebody on the other thread that was posted here said we have a more complete usb host package than nexus 4. I think he was the thread creator. When i get home ill qoute his post.
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ziddey said:
That's up to your kernel devs. I outlined everything required for the N4 here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38906771&postcount=2
That said, I once took a look at the kernel files for the Optimus G and it looks like the code for otg/host mode is far more complete than that of the N4. I'm curious if it's able to read the ID pin in its current state..
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Is there going to be any chance this will be ported over to the Sprint Optimus g LS970G? Or a more proper place for this question? Thank you.
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This is what they had to say on the other forum so far. I don't know any dev's, but if any of you are reading this it sounds like there is a lot of Source Code developed for this already on the Nexus 4. If anyone reading this knows someone capable of doing this if you could forward it to them, because I'm sure I'm not the only person who would like OTG or "USB Host" be available for this phone.

I guess nobody has tried to work this yet? I still haven't seen any kind of development.
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Really sad to know that this amazing device does not support that

honest1212 said:
Really sad to know that this amazing device does not support that
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Surprising, really. I'm a little butthurt about it. But I'm more than happy to hotwire the 5 volt lead on my OTG cable upto an external power supply for testing if anyone has some mad keyboard skillz and wants to use my phone as a guinnea pig.

KD0MND said:
Surprising, really. I'm a little butthurt about it. But I'm more than happy to hotwire the 5 volt lead on my OTG cable upto an external power supply for testing if anyone has some mad keyboard skillz and wants to use my phone as a guinnea pig.
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Any news so far? In april, it seemed there wan't any modiefied kerned which allowed, as well as in nexus 4, to get the USB host function through an external powered usb hub, is there any now?

usb otg support on LG optimus g 970
I am running an Optimus G 970 and I was attempting to gain support of an external USB DAC called "HiFimediy Sabre".
My first project is to attempt to gain some usb otg functionality.
I created a cable to test since the native 5vdc power out function is not there.
I used my computer to power the cable with 5vdc which was verified by the phone "slow charging".
I ran the "usb host diagnostics". This is a diagnostic tool and it looks at the functionality of the usb port.
Note the following.
1. Phone is rooted.
2. Phone is running all stock software and firmware.
I was asked to reboot to apply a firmware fix by the app after allowing it rooted access.
The app was run one more time following the instructions on the screen and plugging in my pny 16gb usb drive.
It was not able to connect.
I received the following unique code: 188704.
I will follow up when I know more.
art

aduhaime2003 said:
I am running an Optimus G 970 and I was attempting to gain support of an external USB DAC called "HiFimediy Sabre".
My first project is to attempt to gain some usb otg functionality.
I created a cable to test since the native 5vdc power out function is not there.
I used my computer to power the cable with 5vdc which was verified by the phone "slow charging".
I ran the "usb host diagnostics". This is a diagnostic tool and it looks at the functionality of the usb port.
Note the following.
1. Phone is rooted.
2. Phone is running all stock software and firmware.
I was asked to reboot to apply a firmware fix by the app after allowing it rooted access.
The app was run one more time following the instructions on the screen and plugging in my pny 16gb usb drive.
It was not able to connect.
I received the following unique code: 188704.
I will follow up when I know more.
art
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Did this ever go anywhere???
Just curious.

USB OTG Mouse

Hi Guys!
i have a big problem, i want to connect a USB Mous with USB OTG, but it doesnt work, i tried different mouses bit it doesnt work
i havent root on my nexus 7 2013.
Can anyone help me? On my s3 mini cm11 it works, why it dont work with my nexus 7 2013?
please help me guys!!!
thanks!

PlayersHeaders said:
Hi Guys!
i have a big problem, i want to connect a USB Mous with USB OTG, but it doesnt work, i tried different mouses bit it doesnt work
i havent root on my nexus 7 2013.
Can anyone help me? On my s3 mini cm11 it works, why it dont work with my nexus 7 2013?
please help me guys!!!
thanks!
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I just tried a wireless USB mouse (Logi M705) with my N7 2013 using this: http://www.amazon.com/aLLreli®-Adap...&sr=8-11&keywords=allreli&tag=viglink20238-20 (aLLreli® 7-in-1 OTG Adapter Cable) and it worked perfectly.
I am rooted and using Carbon.

My Nexus 7 isnt rooted. :-/
I will buy your OTG Hub, i believe in you that it works! Thanks! I say you when it works when it is by me at home.

PlayersHeaders said:
My Nexus 7 isnt rooted. :-/
I will buy your OTG Hub, i believe in you that it works! Thanks! I say you when it works when it is by me at home.
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It's not mine, just a suggestion. I believe you will need to root your tablet for this to work. And, there are plenty of threads here for rooting. The Nexus Root Toolkit is my choice. Search the forums and\or wugfresh. It's free and works perfectly.

I have that problem found, i needed ro connect my device to a pc.
Thread can be closed!