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Hi guys,
Do any Note owners use a bluetooth keyboard? (and mouse?)
Instead of buying a PC for my bedroom which I don't really need, I am just gonna connect my Note to my TV using the HDMI cable but it would be nice if I had a decent keyboard and mouse to use when browsing the web. They do not have to be tiny since they will be used at home but does anyone have any recommendations?
Thanks!
Pictures, videos, links welcome.
AdzUK said:
Hi guys,
Do any Note owners use a bluetooth keyboard? (and mouse?)
Instead of buying a PC for my bedroom which I don't really need, I am just gonna connect my Note to my TV using the HDMI cable but it would be nice if I had a decent keyboard and mouse to use when browsing the web. They do not have to be tiny since they will be used at home but does anyone have any recommendations?
Thanks!
Pictures, videos, links welcome.
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Honestly man they all work equally well. I have the Motorola BT keyboard and it's very comfortable. It includes the media features like the play/pause/stop/skip/and volume as well as some shortcut buttons for the browser, music, back, and home button. It's nice and easy to use. I also have the logitech mouse and it works nicely. But it's really up to what would be most comfortable to you as they all work pretty much the same.
This one looks good
http://www.logitech.com/en-au/tablet-accessories/keyboards/devices/tablet-keyboard-android
I am am looking at the iPad version.
Cheers
that states Android 3.0+ is the bluetooth protocol versions the same between GB and HC?
SOLVED: online reviews have this paired to older phones and tablets with FROYO and GB.. so yup its all ok.
PPCApache said:
This one looks good
http://www.logitech.com/en-au/tablet-accessories/keyboards/devices/tablet-keyboard-android
I am am looking at the iPad version.
Cheers
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There are smaller cheaper ones that fit into the pocket
https://www.amltelecom.com/kleinhandel/products/Mini-Bluetooth-Keyboard.html for example
PPCApache said:
This one looks good
http://www.logitech.com/en-au/tablet-accessories/keyboards/devices/tablet-keyboard-android
I am am looking at the iPad version.
Cheers
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It looks very nice, but a tad too expensive.
Any other recommendations for a bluetooth keyboard & mouse set for the Galaxy Note???
(I am assuming it has to be bluetooth since I will be using the MHL cable to connect to a TV.)
omac_ranger said:
Honestly man they all work equally well. I have the Motorola BT keyboard and it's very comfortable. It includes the media features like the play/pause/stop/skip/and volume as well as some shortcut buttons for the browser, music, back, and home button. It's nice and easy to use. I also have the logitech mouse and it works nicely. But it's really up to what would be most comfortable to you as they all work pretty much the same.
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Which one do you have and how much was it, do you have a link please?
AdzUK said:
It looks very nice, but a tad too expensive.
Any other recommendations for a bluetooth keyboard & mouse set for the Galaxy Note???
(I am assuming it has to be bluetooth since I will be using the MHL cable to connect to a TV.)
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I have the logitech keyboard and it does not work with the stock rooted GB note OOTB. I am waiting for ICS to troubleshoot it if I will even need to. Supposedly it will work with anything above android 3.0. It does come with a very nice multi-function case/stand though, so when it does work with the note I will probably begin carrying it instead of my laptop.
http://www.ebay.it/itm/TASTIERA-MIN...pt=Tastiere&hash=item1e687a6e8f#ht_4256wt_952
or
http://www.ebay.it/itm/Wireless-Min...Trackballs&hash=item3a651a8585#ht_6476wt_1185
I am using an iGo stowayay kbd. works pretty good
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I'm using the Freedom Pro keyboard. Works great.
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got my pretty HP WebOS BT Keyboard QWERTZ for 22Euro from amazon
works with normal batteries, extra functions: back, for music: play/pause, loud+-, silent
also using I-Tec Bluetouch 243 laser mouse (small to midsize, nice to use)
with on/off switch,
3 cursor speeds,
pressing scrollwheel opens menu
(the 2 additional side buttons so far without function on my note)
I found this one on ebay and would like to try it:
It's 14$, it is big enough for 10 finger writing and it looks very nice. Has anyone maybe tried it?
Wireless Keyboard 6mm Ultra Slim Aluminium Bluetooth 3.5 For PC Macbook Mac iPad
I can't post links, but you can find it in ebay for about $14.
It seems to be made mainly for Apple devices, do you guys think it will work with Android as well?
NoteUser1 said:
I found this one on ebay and would like to try it:
It's 14$, it is big enough for 10 finger writing and it looks very nice. Has anyone maybe tried it?
Wireless Keyboard 6mm Ultra Slim Aluminium Bluetooth 3.5 For PC Macbook Mac iPad
I can't post links, but you can find it in ebay for about $14.
It seems to be made mainly for Apple devices, do you guys think it will work with Android as well?
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If it's a Bluetooth keyboard you're pretty much guaranteed that it will work
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http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-kills-keyboard-dock-for-galaxy-tabs-11268778/
So thats why we never got note 10.1 keyboard in US.
I still fancied the dock....
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I really wanted a transformer style dock, but using the oem cover to make it so that you can type comfortably works well.
mrbkkt1 said:
I really wanted a transformer style dock, but using the oem cover to make it so that you can type comfortably works well.
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I agree. This 30 pin connector, proprietary charging, no HDMI, coupled with no JB 4.2 so no miracast, this is one disconnected, connected, wired and shackled but supposedly mobile device.
I've only had it for three weeks and I miss a more connected, but liberated device.
It's frustrating cause this could be soooooo good.
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Too bad, the idea of a keyboard dock that also charged seemed good
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deecee52 said:
I agree. This 30 pin connector, proprietary charging, no HDMI, coupled with no JB 4.2 so no miracast, this is one disconnected, connected, wired and shackled but supposedly mobile device.
I've only had it for three weeks and I miss a more connected, but liberated device.
It's frustrating cause this could be soooooo good.
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Hdmi....would never use it....what to shackle it up to my tv? Pretty sure micro USB is not feasible for 2 amp charging. This baby already is soooooo good.
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Hdmi....would never use it....what to shackle it up to my tv? Pretty sure micro USB is not feasible for 2 amp charging. This baby already is soooooo good.
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my playbook, and my note 2 use 2 amp chargers. I just lucked or on the 30 pin connector because I had a mini usb to 30 pin connector for my tab 2 7.0, and an extra cable.
The tf300 was a dream to type on with the dock, but honestly, my note 10.1 kicks the crap out of it. The oem cover works great, with the exception of a lot of e's that come out 3.
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I had no idea that this was happening.
It would be awesome if Samsung could come up with a transformer-esque type of keyboard/cover, or even a touch-cover like the Surface.
It makes the idea of a "Note netbook/laptop" a good one, but with two separated accessories i.e. stand + bluetooth keyboard, that idea is gone.
Shame :/
The tablet must be a tablet, not a computer if you want a computer buy it separately. A tablet is made for commands through touchscreen, if you want to have a tablet with dock keyboard buy a tablet-pc ( i own one..)
deecee52 said:
This 30 pin connector, proprietary charging, no HDMI, coupled with no JB 4.2 so no miracast
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Eh? I can find the Samsung connector (which is actually a standard called "PDMI") just about anywhere (at least in the States), I've got more charger options now than i had with my Moto Xoom, especially if you buy one of these. HDMI and AllShare Cast work on my device, too.
I've used 4.2 and we're not really missing much useful save the multi-user feature.
I have 4 BT Keyboards, including one with a built-in stick mouse and a cover that folks to make a stand; the combo (which is light enough I carry it around in a case with my Note) gives me everything I could get with the KB dock except maybe charging and it's apparently more portable as well.
I'd say we're pretty well-connected
A charging keyboard dock would have been bad ass.
FlagshipX said:
A charging keyboard dock would have been bad ass.
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seriously though, the battery life on the note 10 is pretty good, I would like the extra peripherals, like the full size sd and usb ports on the transformer docks.
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dei.andrei98 said:
The tablet must be a tablet, not a computer if you want a computer buy it separately. A tablet is made for commands through touchscreen, if you want to have a tablet with dock keyboard buy a tablet-pc ( i own one..)
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What I want is to travel without two toons of devices
Just one which does anything I need. And a tablet with (a good) keyboard can do that.
dayr said:
What I want is to travel without two tons of devices ... And a tablet with (a good) keyboard can do that.
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This. I've been able to travel with only my tablet (on certain business trips even) and have most of what i'd needed to do be accessible that way.
I went to verizon yesterday & saw a Samsung branded Keyboard dock for the Tab10.1. I tried it with the display model Tab 2 10.1 & it fit. I thought that the Tab 210.1 & the Note 10.1 were the same size. I was gutted to find it was not. It works if you pull out the plastic guide/holder, but then it is kind of flimsy in there. Bummer.
Wasnt there a rumor somewhere that one of Samsungs next tablets was going to be transformer-esque? I could have sworn I read something a few months ago about it.
Chocu1a said:
I went to verizon yesterday & saw a Samsung branded Keyboard dock for the Tab 10.1 ... I thought that the Tab2 10.1 & the Note 10.1 were the same size. I was gutted to find it was not.
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Well, with the GNote 10.1 LTE coming to VZ soon, I'd expect they'd be getting accessories there, too (and likely to be hugely overpriced), so I'd come back again a little while after the GNote's available in VZ stores.
Tempted to grab one off ebay. What can I say, sometimes I get typity.
dei.andrei98 said:
The tablet must be a tablet, not a computer if you want a computer buy it separately. A tablet is made for commands through touchscreen, if you want to have a tablet with dock keyboard buy a tablet-pc ( i own one..)
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That sounds sort of narrow-minded in my opinion. Why can't a tablet be both or why can't a computer be a tablet? For an artist like me, I would love the opportunity if tablets got powerful enough to rival their notebook counterparts and offered a desktop view as well as for easy access with a keyboard and trackpad.
With the move of ultrabooks , especially the Surface Pro, converging into tablet territory with full features, one must consider that to be a blessing than a curse. Think about it in this way: Would you carry a radio, cd player , portable DVD player with TV, game system and an ereader just to be able to use them, or would you opt for the simpler solution of an all in one deal? That is the number one reason why the iPod took off: portability. Not only can you get a radio, but a music player and now video, games and reading.
It gets roughly cumbersome to carry every single CD, DVD ,game cart/disc in addition to the hardware , let alone the books for brief reading in commutes in comparison to an all out deal.
For the average consumer and artist, such things are so hard to get that it is pushed towards the rich ,but now similar tech now exists that has the potential to allow for maximal power and capability and the ability to change form factors on the fly. Why should people have to be inconvenienced to buying several different products that can be brought under one device when it can be deducted into one singular product that is amazing and does it all , broadly speaking?
If we went by this flawed logic an mp3 player must play music only, but no radio , thus how would iPods and whatnot be popular if they didn't serve multiple functions simply?
kcrudup said:
Eh? I can find the Samsung connector (which is actually a standard called "PDMI") just about anywhere (at least in the States), I've got more charger options now than i had with my Moto Xoom, especially if you buy one of these. HDMI and AllShare Cast work on my device, too.
I've used 4.2 and we're not really missing much useful save the multi-user feature.
I have 4 BT Keyboards, including one with a built-in stick mouse and a cover that folks to make a stand; the combo (which is light enough I carry it around in a case with my Note) gives me everything I could get with the KB dock except maybe charging and it's apparently more portable as well.
I'd say we're pretty well-connected
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Thanks.....I think. Glad to hear about the PDMI. Just have to figure out how to use it.
What I was trying too say is everything is an add on so my kit ends up being as bulky as my ultrabook and far more prone to losing some piece that makes the whole thing work. my last tablet logged about 100k+/- frequent flyer miles. Using one power brick with one power end, one multi headed usb, one multi headed hdmi, one universal battery charger brick fit neatly in an airplane amenity bag, and served two cameras, one phone and a tablet. Needed no OTG cable to get the CF card reader seen by the tablet. Because I have a GNex, I already have a data/sync switch on my usb cable.
The cameras are the hardest and heaviest to carry.
So far, I've had to add another amenity kit to add the adapters for the Note. And I still don't have a way of using it to run a projector or tv. My phone ends up doing that.
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Just bought one, stock is running out everywhere.
Time to think about soldering a split cable data/charging, and if that works hdmi.
Hope it's as nice as said, but returning is always an option in NL.:good:
Just received EPL-3PHP HDMI adapter from Amazon UK (£23.00) and happy to confirm working with my GT-N8010 with latest UK JB 4.1.2
Is it possible to attach a BT trackball/keyboard without a dongle, or somehow use an other adapter I can attach (possible by a double adapter)
Once connected to my TV the only way to change any input is via the Note.
Thanks
Could you please link me to that product at that price?
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damonsmith666 said:
Could you please link me to that product at that price?
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Hi Purchased from Amazon UK (seller was Amazon)http://http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0051D3KKI/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 actual price £23.55 but now looks like Amazon have suspended that item until they review a complaint, suggest you keep an eye on that link.
Surprised No has been able to answer my question regarding BT trackball!!!
If its a BT track ball I would think it will hook up just fine, same way a BT mouse would.
Just to let you know if you are in the UK with a HMV store nearby you can get these for £10. Picked up a couple last week.
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Hey there.
I do use my ps3 controller via Bluetooth while my note is connected through the docking station.
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xe0r said:
Hey there.
I do use my ps3 controller via Bluetooth while my note is connected through the docking station.
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Hi which one do you have, how do you connect it to the tablet, I assume its just Bluetooth no dongle, thanks.:good:
Simple the original one:
http://www.amazon.de/PlayStation-Du...HY/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1362585611&sr=8-10
bought it when it was on amazon for 35€ incl. shipping!!! nice deal i thought. I do connect it with the app "sixaxxis" (bluetooth). Requires root though, but pretty nice app. Now i can play all the games of my childhood: zelda (oot, n64), tekken (psx) without the need to install the damn ugly consoles in my living room .. thats just awesome!!
After installing the app I noticed that you can emulate a mouse. That is very useful to me for streaming movies from my server, look something up on imdb and so on with the hdmi adapter...
any more questions? ?
xe0r said:
Simple the original one:
http://www.amazon.de/PlayStation-Du...HY/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1362585611&sr=8-10
bought it when it was on amazon for 35€ incl. shipping!!! nice deal i thought. I do connect it with the app "sixaxxis" (bluetooth). Requires root though, but pretty nice app. Now i can play all the games of my childhood: zelda (oot, n64), tekken (psx) without the need to install the damn ugly consoles in my living room .. thats just awesome!!
After installing the app I noticed that you can emulate a mouse. That is very useful to me for streaming movies from my server, look something up on imdb and so on with the hdmi adapter...
any more questions? ?
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Thanks, not rooted, do not want to go in that direction, so am I correct in assuming you can only connect bt directly to tablet when you root it, otherwise I need a dongle??
So no way of having it connect to bt when using the hdmi adapter, bummer.
Question: Is the HDMI output lag-free, do the homescreens run smooth and is the image quality okay?
I just sent back the wireless allshare adapter because the streamed image has 15FPS when not buffered, the quality is worse than i expected and it ends every multitasking capability of the Note.
CentaXx said:
Question: Is the HDMI output lag-free, do the homescreens run smooth and is the image quality okay?
I just sent back the wireless allshare adapter because the streamed image has 15FPS when not buffered, the quality is worse than i expected and it ends every multitasking capability of the Note.
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No issues with lag, quality, home screen as normal.
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I just sent back the wireless allshare adapter because ... the quality is worse than i expected ...
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WillWord said:
No issues with ... quality [on the wired HDMI adaptor]
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Well, keep in mind the ASCD won't mess with the resolution or color depth of the image displayed on the LCD, so if you see video quality issues (bad scaling or graininess or such) it's likely due to what your TV does with the not-quite 720P resolution of the signal from the Note 10.1 (1280x720 isn't a native resolution of most monitors and likely scales it to 1366x768), so I'm betting that the picture via the HDMI hard-wired cable will look the same (on static images) as did the picture from the ASCD.
Got mine here:
http://www.shop.bt.com/products/sam...pin-dock-connector-m--19pinhdmi--f--89W1.html
Deliver y delayed apparently but still a good price
xda premium hd is rubbish
New 2013 model of HDTV Adapter?
I'm shopping around for an HDTV Adapter for my GT-N8010 at the moment, and I've noticed that several online shops are advertising a new 2013 model - EPL-NPHPBKG.
e.g. - www dot amazon dot com /Original-Samsung-Genuine-EPL-NPHPBKG-EPL-3PHPBEG/dp/B00B8NJ6E4
They claim that it is the next verson of EPL-3PHPBEG (the model that this thread is about). Does anyone know what the difference is? The only thing I can see that might be an improvement is "Simultaneously charge your Galaxy Note 10.1 while streaming". I've seen reports on other threads about their tablet not charging while plugged in to the HDTV adapter. Can you confirm if this functionality exists on your EPL-3PHP?
-Matt
mattphi said:
I'm shopping around for an HDTV Adapter for my GT-N8010 at the moment, and I've noticed that several online shops are advertising a new 2013 model - EPL-NPHPBKG.
e.g. - www dot amazon dot com /Original-Samsung-Genuine-EPL-NPHPBKG-EPL-3PHPBEG/dp/B00B8NJ6E4
They claim that it is the next verson of EPL-3PHPBEG (the model that this thread is about). Does anyone know what the difference is? The only thing I can see that might be an improvement is "Simultaneously charge your Galaxy Note 10.1 while streaming". I've seen reports on other threads about their tablet not charging while plugged in to the HDTV adapter. Can you confirm if this functionality exists on your EPL-3PHP?
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Ah. See this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2166540
Hi,
I dont know the id of my hdtv adapter but as far as i own it since the early days of my previous tab 10.1 (p7500) I am pretty sure it's the "old" one.
I can confirm the adapter is definetly charging my n8000 while connected to my tv behind the docking station (universal samsung), streaming .mkv from my ubuntu desktop / server machine and being controlley by emulated mouse with my ps3 gamepad (via sixaxxis).
Sure you won't win a speed challange with that configuration but the main point is it is charging. I guess about ~ 2..3 % / 0,5..1,0 h (never did a measurement ) but still charging. Thats pretty nice because sometimes when I come home from university and the battery is nearly empty (sometimes 2 days of usage with a single charge) I plug my note into the docking station, let it charge to 3 or 4 %, turn it on and start streaming. When I end the day and shut down the tv the note is at about ~10% and ready to get charged the whole night.
xe0r said:
Simple the original one:
http://www.amazon.de/PlayStation-Du...HY/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1362585611&sr=8-10
bought it when it was on amazon for 35€ incl. shipping!!! nice deal i thought. I do connect it with the app "sixaxxis" (bluetooth). Requires root though, but pretty nice app. Now i can play all the games of my childhood: zelda (oot, n64), tekken (psx) without the need to install the damn ugly consoles in my living room .. thats just awesome!!
After installing the app I noticed that you can emulate a mouse. That is very useful to me for streaming movies from my server, look something up on imdb and so on with the hdmi adapter...
any more questions? ?
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Looks good!
Update, just purchased apple Magic Trackpad looks like it works on my Tablet, No Dongle just Pin number input for connecting, so in theory I will be able to use it to control Note 10.1 whilst connected via HDMI adapter to TV, will confirm when it arrives this week.
Just received my EPL-3PHPBEG from Expansys. It was not the most expensive, but dirt cheap either. It works. It says it is for the Tab 10. The price on this seems to vary wildly with the cheaper ones (19-25$) all seeming to be out of stock, except today went back to Amazon and the Zeeestmm version now seems to be in stock and going for 29.00$
It works for my purpose - Powerpoint and other document projection. It does need to be powered, and the tab needs to be rebooted at least for the projector to recognize it. So it's working fine on my Tab Note 10.1.
What chaps me about Samsung, it the myriad of numbers and letters, all a bit different, but all seeming to be the same item. I thought it was bad with the phones and tabs, but it is beyond annoying with accessories.
kcrudup said:
Well, keep in mind the ASCD won't mess with the resolution or color depth of the image displayed on the LCD, so if you see video quality issues (bad scaling or graininess or such) it's likely due to what your TV does with the not-quite 720P resolution of the signal from the Note 10.1 (1280x720 isn't a native resolution of most monitors and likely scales it to 1366x768), so I'm betting that the picture via the HDMI hard-wired cable will look the same (on static images) as did the picture from the ASCD.
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Thanks for the reminder. Probably the image will look not better than before. However, it was not a difficult decision why i sent the Allshare Cast Hub back to amazon. For 60€ it's just to much for what it would have been for me. Ending all MultiWindow possibilities is probably the worst part. Well, with the HDMI cable i won't be able to connect USB anymore .. so everything has pros and cons. For what it offers, the wireless adapter was just too expensive and i was really annoyed that it was never remarked on ANY website i read that it ends multitasking features of the Note 10.1.
I was extremely disappointed in the nexus 10's laggy HDMI out. Anyone know the performance on the nexus 7 now? I hope to play emulators on the television.
I'm hoping for lag under 500ms. Really under 100 preferred.
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Good question, although personally I would want lag to be under 30ms for gaming.
Well really as low as possible. But I don't want to be greedy.
If it has good performance, I'll be playing my favorite old SNES games : D
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I am experiencing lag using slimport. I have an HDMI adapter for my Note 2, and it works great. With the Nexus, there is a slight lag even if you are using basic apps. Has anyone else ran into this issue?
Thanks!
Locklear308 said:
Well really as low as possible. But I don't want to be greedy.
If it has good performance, I'll be playing my favorite old SNES games : D
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maneetb said:
I am experiencing lag using slimport. I have an HDMI adapter for my Note 2, and it works great. With the Nexus, there is a slight lag even if you are using basic apps. Has anyone else ran into this issue?
Thanks!
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Are you using a slimport adapter or something generic?
thatguych4rlie said:
Are you using a slimport adapter or something generic?
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This one!
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009UZBLSG/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
maneetb said:
I am experiencing lag using slimport. I have an HDMI adapter for my Note 2, and it works great. With the Nexus, there is a slight lag even if you are using basic apps. Has anyone else ran into this issue?
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I suggested the lag might be because the slimport adapter (according to reviews) is always sending HDCP (encrypted content) even for content that doesn't need to be copy protected.
I don't know for sure if that is the cause, but HDCP can introduce slight delays depending on the equipment.
Some people claim to use HDFury to strip the HDCP and use VGA input on their displays. I presume they feel HDFury can process HDCP faster than their TV can. However, if the issue is on the nexus or slimport adapter side, then HDFury really wouldn't help because the lag already happened.
I don't know if this is the case, just providing info for you to look into.
I suppose one could buy the VGA slimport adapter and test that theory out as VGA doesn't have HDCP.
BTW does anyone know how the always-on HDCP protection is working on these slimport adapters?
Is it
N7(HDCP1)---->(HDCP1)SlimPort(HDCP2)---->(HDCP2)TV
where HDCP1 and HDCP2 are 2 separate encryption/decryption cycles.
or is it
N7(HDCP1)---->(HDCP1)SlimPort(HDCP1)---->(HDCP1)TV
Where HDCP1 is more of a pass-through across the slimport adapter.
I looked at the specs for the slimport transmitter and receiver chips here:
http://www.analogix.com/pdf/ANX7805_PB.pdf
http://www.analogix.com/pdf/ANX7730_PB.pdf
and it seems both transmitter and receiver have HDCP capabilities, so it seems like the first option is a possibility.
Just got my slimport, it works great for games with almost no lag. I noticed the home screens are the only source of minor lag
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Locklear308 said:
Just got my slimport, it works great for games with almost no lag. I noticed the home screens are the only source of minor lag
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Thanks a lot mate! Going to order my slimport adapter now that I know for sure threre's no significant lag and its suitable for game playing
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Just got my slimport, it works great for games with almost no lag. I noticed the home screens are the only source of minor lag
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I would like to know which Slimport adapter you are using and also your HDMI cable. I just received my analogical Slimport adapter and there is definitely a lag when playing games. Works fine for viewing videos showing pictures, but I have a logitech revue that I can use for that.
I Tried to play some SNES games and the lag made them almost unplayable. Killer instinct and super Mario world were the games I tried. I really hope it's my HDMI cable, but since it works fine with my PS3, then I think it might be the slimport adapter. If that's the case, it really sucks that I wasted $30.
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I would like to know which Slimport adapter you are using and also your HDMI cable. I just received my analogical Slimport adapter and there is definitely a lag when playing games. Works fine for viewing videos showing pictures, but I have a logitech revue that I can use for that.
I Tried to play some SNES games and the lag made them almost unplayable. Killer instinct and super Mario world were the games I tried. I really hope it's my HDMI cable, but since it works fine with my PS3, then I think it might be the slimport adapter. If that's the case, it really sucks that I wasted $30.
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Really? I've been playing ocarina of time! Hmmm...HDMI cable is a 3 dollar one and cable is the official slimport brand
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Locklear308 said:
Really? I've been playing ocarina of time! Hmmm...HDMI cable is a 3 dollar one and cable is the official slimport brand
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app
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So it appears the TV you use plays a factor. I was originally testing the Slimport adapter with my 32 Inch Phillips LCD TV, model # 32PFL3504D/F7. I went to my bed room and plugged it into my Walmart brand 26 inch ILO TV and to my surprise, I was a able to initiate combos on Killer Instinct with no lag at all.
Not only was it an older seemingly lower grade TV, I was using the lowest grade HDMI cable I had, one I paid $2 for on Amazon. So I took the cable from the ILO TV and went back to the living room to test it with the Philips TV. It produced the same crappy results as my other two High quality HDMI cables.
What I did notice though, is that it wasn't a lag from the nexus 7 2nd gen to the TV but a complete tablet lag. Everything was delayed by a half a second even while looking at the tablet vs looking at the TV. I have no idea why but I have no lag on one TV using my ps3 controller wireless and I have noticeable lag using the same set up on another TV. Also the lag shows on the tablet as well...
Guess it's time for a new living room TV. I wanted to get a bigger screen TV anyway but couldn't justify a reason. Could you tell me what TV you are using?
jabbajawz said:
So it appears the TV you use plays a factor. I was originally testing the Slimport adapter with my 32 Inch Phillips LCD TV, model # 32PFL3504D/F7. I went to my bed room and plugged it into my Walmart brand 26 inch ILO TV and to my surprise, I was a able to initiate combos on Killer Instinct with no lag at all.
Not only was it an older seemingly lower grade TV, I was using the lowest grade HDMI cable I had, one I paid $2 for on Amazon. So I took the cable from the ILO TV and went back to the living room to test it with the Philips TV. It produced the same crappy results as my other two High quality HDMI cables.
What I did notice though, is that it wasn't a lag from the nexus 7 2nd gen to the TV but a complete tablet lag. Everything was delayed by a half a second even while looking at the tablet vs looking at the TV. I have no idea why but I have no lag on one TV using my ps3 controller wireless and I have noticeable lag using the same set up on another TV. Also the lag shows on the tablet as well...
Guess it's time for a new living room TV. I wanted to get a bigger screen TV anyway but couldn't justify a reason. Could you tell me what TV you are using?
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A samsung, 40 inch, 120hz 1920x1080.
Althought I am going to try it on my asus, 21.5 inch 1920x1080 IPS display. :3
Locklear308 said:
A samsung, 40 inch, 120hz 1920x1080.
Althought I am going to try it on my asus, 21.5 inch 1920x1080 IPS display. :3
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Thanks man. I was definitely thinking Samsung since they are the leader in electronics right now. I wonder if best buy will allow me to plug my Nexus seven in via slimport adapter to test HDMI performance?
Has anyone found a way to hook up their tablet to their TV with full display? I bought an hdmi adapter but it has a black bar on each side not covering the whole TV display. My note 10.1 2013 version didn't have this problem.
I have the same issue and haven't found a solution so far. What makes it worse, it defaults to a 1080i 24hz signal which is very noticeably laggy especially when gaming. And the colors are bad. Makes no sense, the note 10.1 should have 0 issue pushing 1080p/60hz when it does usually alot more than that.
what we need is hdmi options. I also want to be able to turn off the screen of my tablet when it's outputting to the TV.
Exactly!!! I even bought an hdmi cable that plugs into power and it's not charging the tablet at all. I also would love if you could shut the tablet off while doing so. Do you think the samsumg all cast wirele hub is the answer? For now anyway? Correct me if im wrong but doesnt it fix all problems were discussing except the "covering the whole screen" part? Well and slight lag... man this sucks... how is this tablet not as supported as the 1st generation one? Lame...
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I did some testing today and it really grinds my gears... I have a 3rd party adapter 5 in 1 (hdmi, usb, sd card, micro sd, micro usb) standard 5 pin mhl and an adapter for 11 pin mhl.
-my wife's galaxy s2 works perfectly with the 5 pin. Outputs full 1080p / 60hz smooth and responsive.
-My sgs3 doesn't work at all with the adapter (4.3 stock), it starts charging but there is no image on the screen.
-my note 10.1 2014 works but it outputs 1080p / 24hz and it has a really bad delay that makes it impossible to play games, and of course 24 fps is laggy as ****. And of course it has black boarders on the side.
I can't believe that there isn't a settings menu for hdmi. Even my old transformer tf201 had one. And you get the best experience with the 4 year old sgs2(running 4.2). Unbelievable.
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I did some testing today and it really grinds my gears... I have a 3rd party adapter 5 in 1 (hdmi, usb, sd card, micro sd, micro usb) standard 5 pin mhl and an adapter for 11 pin mhl.
-my wife's galaxy s2 works perfectly with the 5 pin. Outputs full 1080p / 60hz smooth and responsive.
-My sgs3 doesn't work at all with the adapter (4.3 stock), it starts charging but there is no image on the screen.
-my note 10.1 2014 works but it outputs 1080p / 24hz and it has a really bad delay that makes it impossible to play games, and of course 24 fps is laggy as ****. And of course it has black boarders on the side.
I can't believe that there isn't a settings menu for hdmi. Even my old transformer tf201 had one. And you get the best experience with the 4 year old sgs2(running 4.2). Unbelievable.
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Its extremely frustrating... I don't know if it will ever get fixed... That's one of the main uses for my tablet too.
RussellEstridge25 said:
Exactly!!! I even bought an hdmi cable that plugs into power and it's not charging the tablet at all. I also would love if you could shut the tablet off while doing so. Do you think the samsumg all cast wirele hub is the answer? For now anyway? Correct me if im wrong but doesnt it fix all problems were discussing except the "covering the whole screen" part? Well and slight lag... man this sucks... how is this tablet not as supported as the 1st generation one? Lame...
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AllShare Cast...
1080P MKV...
720P Google Play movie...
Plain old screen mirroring...
BarryH_GEG said:
AllShare Cast...
1080P MKV...
720P Google Play movie...
Plain old screen mirroring...
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ok... so whats the conclusion here...
RussellEstridge25 said:
ok... so whats the conclusion here...
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I've never used a physical adapter so can't really draw one. AllShare Cast works really well on the N10.1-14, a lot faster than my old N10.1-12. Video apps that were barely usable on the '12 are no problem on the '14. I'm not a big gamer so perhaps someone who is and uses AllShare Cast can comment.
BarryH_GEG said:
I've never used a physical adapter so can't really draw one. AllShare Cast works really well on the N10.1-14, a lot faster than my old N10.1-12. Video apps that were barely usable on the '12 are no problem on the '14. I'm not a big gamer so perhaps someone who is and uses AllShare Cast can comment.
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Thanks for the info. Does it cover your whole TV screen? I can't really tell in the pics. I don't game on my tablet trying to look at a TV lol I personally think that's kinda dumb. I have a ps3 and games on my tablet that I just play on my tablet.
RussellEstridge25 said:
Thanks for the info. Does it cover your whole TV screen? I can't really tell in the pics. I don't game on my tablet trying to look at a TV lol I personally think that's kinda dumb. I have a ps3 and games on my tablet that I just play on my tablet.
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The TV's got a black frame so it's hard to see. I'd say the picture being mirrored is 100% with some small bars on the sides that are necessary to adjust 16:10 to 16:9. I've noticed nothing distorted in any of the apps/content I've viewed.
PS3
Here's another question, I just hooked my tablet up to my ps3 via bluetooth and it will allow me to share video, pic's, and music. But I have some videos downloaded and put them in that folder where the ps3 is looking for them. I rebooted and the ps3 still does not see the video. its an mp4 so Im not sure if I need to convert it to a different format or what. Anyone have any insight on that? Im still new to the ps3 as I just got it a few months back.
I'm not prepared to pay for another 70-80$ device (that's what allshare costs where i live) to get a good image... This tablet is a highly advanced device and i expect hdmi out to work. As I said it works very well on the 4 year old sgs2 why would it work worse on a 2014 device?
BarryH_GEG said:
The TV's got a black frame so it's hard to see. I'd say the picture being mirrored is 100% with some small bars on the sides that are necessary to adjust 16:10 to 16:9. I've noticed nothing distorted in any of the apps/content I've viewed.
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So, can I mirror onto my 60inch vizio with the all share wireless hub?
clouds5 said:
I'm not prepared to pay for another 70-80$ device (that's what allshare costs where i live) to get a good image... This tablet is a highly advanced device and i expect hdmi out to work. As I said it works very well on the 4 year old sgs2 why would it work worse on a 2014 device?
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I agree that's a lot more money for something other cheaper devices already do. You go on a still keep your tablet?
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RussellEstridge25 said:
Here's another question, I just hooked my tablet up to my ps3 via bluetooth and it will allow me to share video, pic's, and music. But I have some videos downloaded and put them in that folder where the ps3 is looking for them. I rebooted and the ps3 still does not see the video. its an mp4 so Im not sure if I need to convert it to a different format or what. Anyone have any insight on that? Im still new to the ps3 as I just got it a few months back.
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EDIT: Never mind. I got it all to work. So I guess thats my work around for now. Im just going to use my ps3 to view the videos I want. Not the ideal solution but it beats spending more money! Hopefully something gets figured out in the mean time. I shouldn't have to rely on a ps3 for this type of thing on such an awesome device.