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YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED - Zagg InvisibleShield HD

I will post this in both Galaxy s3 sections because people need to know. This is a good read to know about their misleading advertising that their employee uncovered (unintentionally?) for me.
I am sorry I do not have any photos, because my camera just cant pick up the issues correctly...
I suggest to stay away from this product. It is not like the original invisibleshield.
It is very smooth, which is better than the original, but IT IS NOT DURABLE! The slightest pressure by my fingernail left an indent that has not gone away. I tried the same thing on my brother's original invisibleshield on his HTC Desire and it would not even leave an indent in the first place. If it flexed a little bit, it would heal itself right away.
My screen looks like I have been using the phone for 2 years! and I BABY the phone. Has always been in a case (which does not touch the screen), never shares my pocket with anything else, is face down in my pocket, hasnt been dropped yet (knock on wood) and have not bumped anything into the screen. I do not use a stylus.
I have had the protector on since June 27th and there are many indentations on the screen! It dents extremely easily and it does NOT HEAL.
I have been going back and forth with a Zagg employee in customer service and I will show the correspondence here, but I will remove his/her name.
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I have a new Samsung Galaxy s3 and I am wondering what the difference is between the regular invisible shield and the HD. I bought the HD and have had it installed for about 4 days now. It is very smooth which I like, but my brother has a standard invisibleshield on his HTC Desire and although it is not quite as smooth, it does not show any scratches.
The InvisibleShield HD shows scratches quite easily. I applied very light pressure with my fingernail to the corner and there was an indent. It still has not gone away since 3 days. On my brothers device, there is no indent shown as all with the same amount of pressure from my fingernail.
It seems to be less durable and more prone to damage, yet a higher price.
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Thank you for contacting ZAGG, where we are Zealous About Great Gadgets! My name is Luis and I appreciate the opportunity to assist you.
Thank you for the purchase of the invisibleSHIELD. I'd like to confirm that the HD is a thinner than the original, which helps with the smoothness and clarity. However, due to the same fact, it does not absorb impact or scratches as well as the original invisibleSHIELD. It still has the original's ability to repair itself but it will take longer to do so. Furthermore, we normally recommend not to asses the quality of any invisibleSHIELD until after a couple of weeks from installation, if it was successful. This is because the adhesive is still curing on to the surface of your phone and may be more prone do damage. If the adhesive is disturbed while it's drying, it will most likely stay that way.
I would recommend to allow an extra week to determine whether or not your invisibleSHIELD will need to be replaced, which is very likely due to the curing procedure your invisibleSHIELD has endured. If so, you may place a warranty request to have a new one sent to you.
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I don't really see with what the surface of the screen protector has to do with the adhesive. The indents left in the screen protector are from absolute minimal pressure. I don't see how you are charging a premium for this product when in 2 weeks the screen will look horrendous being covered in indents.
Making it thinner but HIGHLY susceptible to indents is a terrible idea. I have also looked online briefly and I'm not the only one with this issue with the HD.
Zagg is generally known with quality products but this is crazy. A SCREEN PROTECTOR that can't withstand the smallest of pressure/contact/impact. Can you imagine if someone uses a stylus on here? I it would look like an ice rink after a week of crowds skating on it.
This product was not well thought through and I hope it is either redesigned or not made any more. My brand new phone and screen protector looks like I've owned it for over a year. (and I baby my phones. They never share a pocket with anything else, always use a case) for I have no idea how these marks could have even managed to get on there with that being said. I know only one I made on purpose to test it and it's at the bottom away from the screen, but there are many other marks on the screen. I hope it's not the COTTON FIBRES from my pocket making them...
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I am sorry to hear that you feel this way. However, it is unreasonable to compare different products and expect them to perform the same as others when they are in a different category. Different products are introduced to the market to satisfy different customers and provide a wider range of protection products. There will never be a "one-size-fits-all" product from any company.
To further elaborate on the adhesive part, if you were to remove part of the adhesive, you will see a noticeable line/scratch on the bottom (adhesive) side of the invisibleSHIELD because the adhesive has been removed/disturbed/stretched. As mentioned, the invisibleSHIELD is more vulnerable to damage while it is still drying.
We have also been selling the HD invisibleSHIELD for the iPhone 4/4S and iPad 3 (3rd Gen) with great success. In the iPad 3, it is not uncommon for customers to use fine stylus, such as the JOT stylus, which has a fine point.
I believe that the reason why you are not completely satisfied with the invisibleSHIELD you own is because you are comparing it to other products, as stated. However, if you are not happy with it, I would recommend seeking assistance from the retailer it was purchased from and inquiring about their return process.
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First off I want to address your comment of "There will never be a "one-size-fits-all" product from any company. " I guess you have not heard of SGP? They Flex HD wet applicator is incredibly clear and smooth..and THIN. There are many products that are just as smooth and "glass-like" as the HD, without warping to the slightest contact. Also many other screen protector brands are excellent, from Rearth, to Ghost Armour, and on, and on.
Your interpretation seems to be that, there is no "one size fits all" because your new HD is very weak and you pretty much admitted that when you said, "Thank you for the purchase of the invisibleSHIELD. I'd like to confirm that the HD is a thinner than the original, which helps with the smoothness and clarity. However, due to the same fact, it does not absorb impact or scratches as well as the original invisibleSHIELD."
Also, this insults me even more when you tell me that, " it is unreasonable to compare different products and expect them to perform the same as others when they are in a different category"
I am surely not comparing products in a different category and I'm shocked to even see you write that... They ARE in the same category unless Zagg is magically creating their own category. It is in a wet application screen protector category. ACCORDING TO YOU though, the difference is that... its weaker... because its thinner.
That is even more interesting and let me tell you why.
Here is a link to ZAGGs post on THEIR website - http://www.zagg.com/community/blog/...-for-iphone-and-ipad-with-an-invisible-video/
Look familiar?
"We took the original invisibleSHIELD, improved the clarity, and added a glass-like surface."
Ive spent over an hour searching online through various sources and nowhere does it mention the fact that it does not absorb impact or scratches as well as the original IS. Yes the fact that is is thin is mentioned, but that fact alone should not lead someone to assume that this MORE EXPENSIVE and new product is any WEAKER than the original. If its weaker but clearer/smoother... it should be the same price!
ON SECOND HAND lets take a look at my box for the invisibleshield HD !
"THE invisibleSHIELD HD DELIVERS THE SAME PATENTED, AWARD-WINNING, AND VIRTUALLY INDESTRUCTIBLE PROTECTIVE FILM AS THE ORIGINAL PATENTED invisibleSHIELD, WITH PREMIUM FEATURES INCLUDING ADVANCED CLARITY AND A GLASS-LIKE SURFACE."
Wow, I may have just stepped on my own toes there, it does not even mention that it is thinner! Also in HUGE letters above that it says "THE ORIGINAL, MILITARY GRADE FILM NOW IN HD"
It says its the SAME FILM as the ORIGINAL, but with PREMIUM features (clarity, smoothness). This is misleading advertising at its best.
Keep in mind I purchased the shield based on reading the box in the store, and now after the fact I am searching online and still doesn't really help ZAGGs case.
What else does it say on the box? SCRATCH PROOF
It also mentions that if its ever damaged, it will be replaced for the life of the product. I think scratches/indents are considered damage and since my first email, this thing has nearly twice as many issues with it now.
I laugh at the same "nano-memory technology" on this packaging which is what you advertised on the original IS as well because NONE of the marks have gone away.
Also, interestingly enough, there is no mention of what you told me, "This is because the adhesive is still curing on to the surface of your phone and may be more prone do damage. If the adhesive is disturbed while it's drying, it will most likely stay that way."
Seriously? You dont mention that to the consumers? So this terrible screen protector will always look terrible now, You want us to leave the phone is a protective box for over a week allowing it to cure? That never happened with the original IS. This is the worst advertising for a product.
This is nothing against YOU because you did not manufacture or create the product packaging and advertising (that I know of), and you did shed some light on the misleading nature of this product for me, but don't tell me this is in a different category and that its not fair to compare to your original IS. Thats insulting my intelligence. I can read the packaging of the product sitting here in front of me that claims, again, ""THE invisibleSHIELD HD DELIVERS THE SAME PATENTED, AWARD-WINNING, AND VIRTUALLY INDESTRUCTIBLE PROTECTIVE FILM AS THE ORIGINAL PATENTED invisibleSHIELD, WITH PREMIUM FEATURES INCLUDING ADVANCED CLARITY AND A GLASS-LIKE SURFACE."
It CLEARLY says its the same, original film, but with added features. That would mean its in the same category, or if you want to play the category game, it would be in a premium category BASED ON THE PACKAGING AND ADVERTISING since it does not mention that it is weaker.
I was going to just return this to BestBuy and get them to refund the difference and just go with the original invisbleshield, but because of our correspondence which has made me look closer at the brand and its advertising for this product, I refuse to support this product. I will get a refund and purchase a better, wet protector applicator with glass like smoothness, military grade, great clarity, at a better price, and that will not indent like play-doh - and trust me, there are enough choices for this CATEGORY of screen protector on the market.
ps. this is not an isolated incidence, I have a friend who also purchased this and agrees with me.
pps. Your comment about your Apple products - if they have the same HD material that the Galaxy s3 has, I find it hard to believe that theirs arent weak as well. Although at the same time, people I know with Apple products dont really complain about any accessory they buy for them even when they break in the first week or have other faults.
I will be making these issues publicly known and voicing my displeasure with the brand and product.
Thank you and have a good day.
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Well this is an interesting post I just read through the whole thing and I have an Inivsa HD on my SGS3 and I have loved it. I just tried to rape it with my fingernail and it rubbed right out so I don't know where your coming from but if that did happen it would be very frustrating indeed. Where did you buy it from by chance?

Brosa said:
Well this is an interesting post I just read through the whole thing and I have an Inivsa HD on my SGS3 and I have loved it. I just tried to rape it with my fingernail and it rubbed right out so I don't know where your coming from but if that did happen it would be very frustrating indeed. Where did you buy it from by chance?
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I bought it from Best buy and even had them install it.
Because I had them install it, I have 30 days warranty on it, where they will just remove it and re-apply for me if anything is wrong with it.
I will be going and getting him to do that, and if it happens again, refund for me.
Maybe a bad batch came to Canada?
At least you can understand my frustration. It looks like I used a stylus on the shield, and I dont even own a stylus... lol
I thought everyone should know the unadvertised claims for the product at least! Its apparently thinner and weaker, and thats coming right from a Zagg employee!
EDIT: the fact that yours is fine actually frustrates me even more because he pretty much said that its perfectly normal that mine is dented. Which is clearly not true because yours is not. They cant admit a defect in even ONE film?

I had one on my GS2 and it acted the same. Never buy from them again. Over priced and feel horrible.
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wow you pretty much owned them. +++ for this
personally i think under normal usage you will never need a sreen protector. a tpu case is more than enough.

pnda said:
wow you pretty much owned them. +++ for this
personally i think under normal usage you will never need a sreen protector. a tpu case is more than enough.
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Thanks for that comment, I just had to take some frustration out on them. Its not fair to compare their invisibleshield HD to their invisibleshield? haha... come on!
I just like to take the extra step to ensure that if anything sharp comes in contact with the screen, it will not damage it. I put screen protectors on the screens of my digital cameras too.

Well you should be a lawyer or soething,because you sounded very smart lol.
Id end up just telling them to fu** off and want my money back haha.
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ScubaSteev said:
Well you should be a lawyer or soething,because you sounded very smart lol.
Id end up just telling them to fu** off and want my money back haha.
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Haha thanks a lot.
I will be getting my money back through Best Buy anyway, but I needed to say something to these guys about their misleading claims.
Who doesnt want a product that is as good as the original, PLUS smoother and clearer?
Well... if that was only the truth!

I'm not sure why you had such a bad experience, but I love Zagg products. I even have a Droid Razr Maxx with a Gorilla Glass screen with a Zagg InvisibleShield.
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I'm not sure why you had such a bad experience, but I love Zagg products. I even have a Droid Razr Maxx with a Gorilla Glass screen with a Zagg InvisibleShield.
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Those would be the original Invisibleshields. My brother has one on his HTC Desire and its great, but this HD one on the s3 is terrible.

Make a tl;dr for this?

Wond3r said:
I bought it from Best buy and even had them install it.
Because I had them install it, I have 30 days warranty on it, where they will just remove it and re-apply for me if anything is wrong with it.
I will be going and getting him to do that, and if it happens again, refund for me.
Maybe a bad batch came to Canada?
At least you can understand my frustration. It looks like I used a stylus on the shield, and I dont even own a stylus... lol
I thought everyone should know the unadvertised claims for the product at least! Its apparently thinner and weaker, and thats coming right from a Zagg employee!
EDIT: the fact that yours is fine actually frustrates me even more because he pretty much said that its perfectly normal that mine is dented. Which is clearly not true because yours is not. They cant admit a defect in even ONE film?
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Honestly man the reliability of there sheilds from batch to batch is horrific. I work at Best Buy and every time I have to install a sheild I will go through at least 3 of them to find one without a defect. Sounds like an exaggeration but its the truth I write off more Invisasheilds than anything else and its not because of me boching the install its because of them seriously having a defect. Once you get a good one though they are pretty nice.

Brosa said:
Honestly man the reliability of there sheilds from batch to batch is horrific. I work at Best Buy and every time I have to install a sheild I will go through at least 3 of them to find one without a defect. Sounds like an exaggeration but its the truth I write off more Invisasheilds than anything else and its not because of me boching the install its because of them seriously having a defect. Once you get a good one though they are pretty nice.
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The guy seemed like he did a good job, he did it right infront of me. So I guess I will try my luck on another one since I wont be paying.
They dont care that you go through that many? How much is Best Buys cost for 1 invisibleshield?

I didn't read most of this thread, or even the OP, BUT, I had an evo lte for a few weeks with the new zagg on it, hated the screen protector. Exactly what OP says about scratches and indents staying indefinitely. After 2 weeks it just looked like crap.
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Wond3r said:
The guy seemed like he did a good job, he did it right infront of me. So I guess I will try my luck on another one since I wont be paying.
They dont care that you go through that many? How much is Best Buys cost for 1 invisibleshield?
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No they don't care man they know that most of them are defective. The cost on the HD ones is around $6 if my memory serves me correctly its not bad but still we just send them bag to Zagg.

Very interesting to hear from a best buy guy I'd love to know what kind of defects you're talking about, and so I can look out for them when I go to get mine installed. I have a zagg booth in the mall near me, would you recommend that I get it done there, or at the best buy across the street?
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thanks for the heads up to the community. I think market is the cheapest thing to sell, rather than a good resolved product which delivers what it promises. it takes a good lot of effort to check and double check if they sold what they are saying, and i think you've done that for us regarding this brand~
ironically, bad marketing goes twice as far and three times as fast =)

Wond3r said:
I will post this in both Galaxy s3 sections because people need to know. This is a good read to know about their misleading advertising that their employee uncovered (unintentionally?) for me.
I am sorry I do not have any photos, because my camera just cant pick up the issues correctly...
I suggest to stay away from this product. It is not like the original invisibleshield.
It is very smooth, which is better than the original, but IT IS NOT DURABLE! The slightest pressure by my fingernail left an indent that has not gone away. I tried the same thing on my brother's original invisibleshield on his HTC Desire and it would not even leave an indent in the first place. If it flexed a little bit, it would heal itself right away.
My screen looks like I have been using the phone for 2 years! and I BABY the phone. Has always been in a case (which does not touch the screen), never shares my pocket with anything else, is face down in my pocket, hasnt been dropped yet (knock on wood) and have not bumped anything into the screen. I do not use a stylus.
I have had the protector on since June 27th and there are many indentations on the screen! It dents extremely easily and it does NOT HEAL.
I have been going back and forth with a Zagg employee in customer service and I will show the correspondence here, but I will remove his/her name.
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I can attest to this gentleman's claim!
I bought the same product and had the exact same problem. The material is almost rubber like and gets indented extremely easily. I just thew mine away after a week. Dont buy!

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I can attest to this gentleman's claim!
I bought the same product and had the exact same problem. The material is almost rubber like and gets indented extremely easily. I just thew mine away after a week. Dont buy!
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I take back all my previous claims the Invisasheild HD on the SGS3 is terrible. I am experiencing the exact same "skating rink" look and feel now after moderate use. I baby my phone like crazy and I get all of these marks on it that will not go away. My sheild was good for the first week as said but now it is like this. Not to mention I went through 3 Invisasheild HD's at my store to find this one and it turned out like this after 2 weeks. I have now gone to the Matt finish Anti-Smudge sheild and couldn't be happier. This is a real problem that Zagg has to look at. I will update with some pictures in a little here once I get my macro lens to work.
@GamerMYJ, the only advantage in my experience is BestBuy isn't afraid to go get another shield and write it off for you, well at least I'm not and it shouldn't be an exception at another store & I speak on behalf of my store in Canada.

I also have this problem my question is though if just the screen protector is damaged or is this actually also damaging my phone screen?

Life Proof Case

Hey guys I have some good news. I emailed Life proof asking if they have plans for making their case for the S3 and new iPhone and this is the response I received:
Thank you for your email. Our LifeProof design team is hard at work designing cases and accessories that can accommodate the majority of devices and applications out there, including other smartphone platforms such as the Android, HTC, Galaxy and others. You can stay updated on all of our product updates and releases via our Facebook Fan page at http://www.facebook.com/lifeproofcases. Thank you and have a wonderful day!
So hopefully it shouldn't be too long before we see some of these cases hit the market. Or at least get some news.
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While I would be all over a case from lifeproof, I wouldn't get your hopes up. That response is the same canned one they have been sending out for months. They keep saying they are working on other phone brands, but have yet to come out with anything. They even posted pretty much the same thing on their Facebook Page like 8 or 9 months ago.

Try SGP products, such as Argos providing full protection. It's a vertical-flip leather casing. It also gives a pure leathery feel.

DINLONG said:
While I would be all over a case from lifeproof, I wouldn't get your hopes up. That response is the same canned one they have been sending out for months. They keep saying they are working on other phone brands, but have yet to come out with anything. They even posted pretty much the same thing on their Facebook Page like 8 or 9 months ago.
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yup, they gave the same shpeal when asked bout the Nexus S, Galaxy Nexus and Galaxy S2. I gave up on the supporting anything but the iPhone long ago...
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alextheguy said:
Try SGP products, such as Argos providing full protection. It's a vertical-flip leather casing. It also gives a pure leathery feel.
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The sgp stuff is nice, but many people are looking for a waterproof solution for kayaking, snowboarding, etc. Leather isn't exactly up to the task.

DINLONG said:
The sgp stuff is nice, but many people are looking for a waterproof solution for kayaking, snowboarding, etc. Leather isn't exactly up to the task.
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Zip lock bag.
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keekah said:
Zip lock bag.
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You know a lot of people say that, and if I were just paddling on a lake or hanging on the bunny slope that would probably offer enough protection. (its what I do when I go to the beach) I really don't think that would even come close to the kind of coverage I would need for my uses though. Class 5 Rapids and zip lock baggies are not exactly the best of friends.
Right now I just leave my phone in my car or stick it in my dry bag and bring a waterproof Panasonic camera, and I am fine with that. It would be nice to have a lifeproof type option though, and I would be willing to pay for it.

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The sgp stuff is nice, but many people are looking for a waterproof solution for kayaking, snowboarding, etc. Leather isn't exactly up to the task.
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If your looking for a waterproof solution and are able to go a few days without your phone or have a back-up check out www.liquipel.com
I originally had my Nexus S treated by Golden Shellback, but they nolonger offer individual sales. but was referred to liquipel as they do a similar treatment.
Ive yet to use liquipel but LOVED the treatment Shellback did on my Nexus.
Basically they nano coated the components of your device so rather then blocking water from getting into your phone, this treatment waterproofs the components and allows the water to flow freely thru your device without causing damage to it.
If you go this route, when you get your phone back just throw it into whatever case you want n your golden.

Why exactly do you need your phone in class 5 Rapids? Texting?
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Why exactly do you need your phone in class 5 Rapids? Texting? <br />
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pictures, gps or god forbid something happens and you need to make an emergency phone call ?

Pictures, video, gps, music. No cell reception on the river, have to radio a Ranger station if anything goes wrong. Supposedly US Cellular just got a big grant to greatly expand cell coverage across the less populated parts of Maine, may eventually be able to text from on the water
I have read about liquipel and it sounds pretty good. It is more designed for accidental drops and splashes though it isn't truly waterproof.
A lifeproof case also seems like it would be toddler proof, that would be nice too!

I have read about liquipel and it sounds pretty good. It is more designed for accidental drops and splashes though it isn't truly waterproof.
A lifeproof case also seems like it would be toddler proof, that would be nice too!
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Yeah I'm tempted to try liquipel, but I'm still attempting to persuade Golden Shellback to do it for me since I'm a 3x repeat customer.
Their process is similar to what liquipel does, but rather then putting the device as a whole into the chamber GSB disassembles the devices first to ensure every component is coated thoroughly during the bonding process

Waterproof case that allows camera use

Hi All,
I'm going on holiday soon to a sunny island and will be out at sea...
Was wondering if there's a case on the market with a see through back that would allow me to use the S3 under water? If so could you please post me a link to where I could buy one?

Doughnut said:
Hi All,
I'm going on holiday soon to a sunny island and will be out at sea...
Was wondering if there's a case on the market with a see through back that would allow me to use the S3 under water? If so could you please post me a link to where I could buy one?
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http://www.amazon.com/iOttie-Waterproof-Protective-Underwater-Snowboarding/dp/B008DZRB92
You can only use it once though and i think you can have it underwater for around 30 min.

I have this on my watch list. hard to know if you can really trust it tho
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/26106525...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_2430wt_1139

hitek86 said:
I have this on my watch list. hard to know if you can really trust it tho
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Ive never heard of that company "Protector F" the one from amazon ive seen several videos on people actually test it so if it were me i would go with something i trust if my phones going under water.

Easy old trick is a sandwich bag and a little silicone. I know fishermen friends who did that with the Motorola bricks back in the day. But your real issue is the capacitive touch screen. It'll probably not pick up your fingers. Ever tried to use your phone with a drop on the screen? Tends to throw it off.
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http://www.drycase.com/
This one looks promising. I like the idea of the vacuum seal, I will probably be ordering at some point. You can find them cheaper if you look around.

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http://www.drycase.com/
This one looks promising. I like the idea of the vacuum seal, I will probably be ordering at some point. You can find them cheaper if you look around.
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Geez, $40? IMO, for that kind of price, I think it would be beneficial cost wise to use the sandwich bag gimmick as stated above but find someone with one of those airtight bag sealers to protect the device furthermore. That's pretty much what that dry case is anyway, just in a more easy to use, continual usage, professional looking wrap.
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Poll: Case or no case?

Hello folks,
Long-time lurker here and I post before you today with small request - help me help you help me design a better dock!
I'm currently developing a modular multi-device charging stand and the issue I need help with is devices being used with protective cases.
I would be very grateful if you guys could take this quick poll and if you feel like it, provide a little bit of detail about your dock and/or case usage.
The stand is just about ready - I'm just finalising the device dock designs, then it's the initial prototype and if all goes well I will have some
preview models out for an early review (if anyone would like to review one please PM me and I'm sure we can work something out) and I shall post a little showcase here as well.
Many thanks in advance guys and gals!

Hmmm, it seems my Forum-Fu is weak - is there a way to edit a poll? Or would a Mod be kind enough to add two more options to the list?
"Yes. I'm thinking about a dock." and "No. I'm thinking about a dock."
Thanks again!

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Hmmm, it seems my Forum-Fu is weak - is there a way to edit a poll? Or would a Mod be kind enough to add two more options to the list?
"Yes. I'm thinking about a dock." and "No. I'm thinking about a dock."
Thanks again!
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case save my screen a lot of time

I never use a case on my phone. Hated the thought of taking a nice slim phone and making it bulky. I just never drop it, not that difficult.

Definitely a case is a must for me.I have dropped and bumped my phone 2 or 3 times and the case did the job for me.Without a case I imagine my phone would have been just a broken toy and also by the way even having a good case adds to peace of mind since it adds a little protection value.
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A case is important to me. I work hard for my money and will not take a chance on breaking it. For those that "never" drop their phone, good for you. As far as "ruining" the look of my sleek phone, I couldn't care less about bulk and changing the look of it. I'm not a kid that likes to show off, I'm an older man that uses a phone as a tool, not a show toy. Besides, some cases do actually look good.

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I usually use a case when out and about but prefer to take it off whilst at home

Here in Mexico, most phone owners use a case (i.e tpu, silicone, hard plastic) because when don't have insurance plans like you do in U.s. Thus making it cheaper to buy a case ($4 - 8) than to pay for another phone or fix it.
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Wink2tall2 said:
I usually use a case when out and about but prefer to take it off whilst at home
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That's OK if you use an easy-off/on case, but some of use those 2 piece hybrids that are a pain to take off and put back on.
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Here in Mexico, most phone owners use a case (i.e tpu, silicone, hard plastic) because when don't have insurance plans like you do in U.s. Thus making it cheaper to buy a case ($4 - 8) than to pay for another phone or fix it.
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Most people I know here in the US don't have insurance on their phones, so having a good case is just as important here as in mexico. Plus, paying $8 a month for insurance is pretty expensive. That's almost $100 a year. No thanks. I'd rather spend $25-35 once for a good heavy duty case and have it for the life of the phone.

I use urban armor gear case. Would be interested in stand for charging multiple devices at once.
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I don't one and I wont get one. Just be careful. And it looks ugly tough.

Thanks for all the feedback guys. I've decided, at the risk of fragmentation, I'm going to give buyers the option of either a cased or caseless version of a devices cradle to attach to the dock - it's already going to be tailored to meet individual device needs, I may as well go all the way and offer this too.
As a follow up question:
The stand is currently aiming to support one tablet and one phone charging and displaying on the stand with the possibility of charging 2 extra devices at the same time - one would be resting on the legs of the stand (with small extrusions on the feet to stop the device slipping - this may not be able to fit every device but currently anything ~13cm in length should be fine), and one lying on your desk underneath.
Would people be interested in the option (depending on the size of the base stand) of an additional phone dock in place of a tablet dock? (Or if you're using a larger stand the option of an additional tablet dock? Subject to feasibility of course.)
Many thanks for the replies everyone, I'll be sending the initial design to be 3D printed Monday or Tuesday!

Sometimes the phone can fall to the floor. A simple case of rubber, even pleasant, when you take the phone in hand.

I agree
wolfen69 I think if I had a case like that I would just leave it on. I want a metal case eventually! That would be awesome!

Metal case will protect your device screen when it falls down, but not sensitive sensors, i guess. I'm currently using Samsung S-View case and i am pleased with it. :good:

A case ruins the beauty of my Lumia
But its better to stay safe

Just for the record: I bought my girlfriend some rubber case for her moto g. She bought her phone since it's launch on November and we weren't able to find a case for that model here in Mexico.
She had dropped her phone a couple times without a case, and the phone back got some marks and scratches. Now she had put the case on and dropped her phone in the middle of a street without noticing. When we ran down the street searching for her phone, we found that a car had ran over it, leaving tire marks on the lime green case. To our surprise, both phone and screen were intact, thus, we think a case is the best investment you can do when buying a new phone
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I usually don't use a case. It was designed the way it is and should be in the form as is. Unfortunately I use an extended battery and hacked up my original back to my GN2 so I can't even go back to the original feeling of the phone.
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Leather
My tablet is always protected by a simple and cheap leather case

Lifeproof fre cases

Just broke my first s3 and bought a new one, this time I said no more otterbox and went with lifeproof.
Damn fine cases, quality, built in screen protector and best part. There waterproof! Buttons are easy to press, not like otter box basically crush the phone trying to press the power button lol
I got mine on amazon.ca for 39.99 free shipping. And I signed up for a amazon credit card and saved another $20.
Cases are good quality compared to my old otter box. Otter box rubber is falling apart, like breaking down. I contacted otterbox customer service. My warranty was up in one week from when I contacted them. I sent emails properly to them submitting the defects, they asked for more of the same pictures..... Basically wasting time. Then at the end of the week guess what. They told me I'm no longer under the 1 year warranty. No u wasted a week trying to make me waste time. Lol
Well let me tell otter box this.... U won't see a red nickel from me ever again.
In short lifeproof is a better case and company then otter box. I've already been in the water with the case 2 times. No leaks phone is fine.
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I think they have a legal obligation to honor the warranty if the claim was initiated before it ran out.

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I think they have a legal obligation to honor the warranty if the claim was initiated before it ran out.
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Interesting point. They closed the case promptly and told me I have to open a new case.... I see where this is going so I just gave up.
I am going to contact them again bringing that part up. Mighty fine point.

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Interesting point. They closed the case promptly and told me I have to open a new case.... I see where this is going so I just gave up.
I am going to contact them again bringing that part up. Mighty fine point.
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With a shot. If anything you could sell the case or use it as a backup since you have a Lifeproof. I moved to Lifeproof from Otterbox and have never looked back.

How does LifeProof compare to CruzerLite? I was thinking about getting a CruzerLite case for my AT&T Galaxy S3.

Moved to S3 Accessories forum.

I used to work at a store that sold these when they first came out. I tested them out a few times and found them difficult to pry apart and get on/off the phone. They looked very well-constructed and effective, but can anyone vouch for their ease of use in relation to applying to phone and taking it back off? Have they changed it up at all as far as anyone can attest?

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I used to work at a store that sold these when they first came out. I tested them out a few times and found them difficult to pry apart and get on/off the phone. They looked very well-constructed and effective, but can anyone vouch for their ease of use in relation to applying to phone and taking it back off? Have they changed it up at all as far as anyone can attest?
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I've been using mine on my S3 for about 3 to 4 months now and with a coin you can open the case not super easy per say but it comes off once you open it.
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you get raised buttons that allow you to use all the iPhone controls, while a sealable door and plug cover the Lightning port and headphone jack along the bottom edge. The headphone jack is fairly narrow, but LifeProof includes an adapter that extends the jack beyond the case. Rounding out the package is a microfiber cloth and a replacement headphone jack plug.

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you get raised buttons that allow you to use all the iPhone controls, while a sealable door and plug cover the Lightning port and headphone jack along the bottom edge. The headphone jack is fairly narrow, but LifeProof includes an adapter that extends the jack beyond the case. Rounding out the package is a microfiber cloth and a replacement headphone jack plug.
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Hmm interesting, I keep the box for my lifeproof case in my car and there isn't an adapter.
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I've been using mine on my S3 for about 3 to 4 months now and with a coin you can open the case not super easy per say but it comes off once you open it.
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Hmm, sounds like a step up from what I remember. I recall bending back some fingernails a few times trying to open those things. Guess they must have re-designed them a bit, or I just didn't know what I was doing...
I hear good things, so maybe I'll check one out for my next case.

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Hmm, sounds like a step up from what I remember. I recall bending back some fingernails a few times trying to open those things. Guess they must have re-designed them a bit, or I just didn't know what I was doing...
I hear good things, so maybe I'll check one out for my next case.
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All you really need is a coin like a quarter or a nickel since they are thicker than a penny and dime. Those have worked just fine for me
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Interesting point. They closed the case promptly and told me I have to open a new case.... I see where this is going so I just gave up.
I am going to contact them again bringing that part up. Mighty fine point.
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From a legal standpoint, the date of complaint stands. Don't let them give you the run around bro. Unfortunately this should have been taken care of immediately. If they give you a hard time and do not want to cooperate, you can still open a case through the Better Business Bureau and let them handle your complaint. Hopefully you have some emails with the date you 1st contacted them. If not, it'll be your word against theirs.
Best of luck to you.
Personally, I've had two OtterBox Defender cases. One I ended up giving away in my section and the other has never been used. As for the built-in screen protector, I popped it out a few days after I started using the case and applied one from Tech Armor. Great screen protectors by the way! I ended up getting a ZeroLemon 7000mAh battery and bought their ZeroLemon Rugged Case. It's not waterproof but it is one heck of a case. I know for a fact it has saved my phone on two occasions. It can be used with stock batteries too. Not bad for $19.99. It also comes with a 180 day warranty just like their batteries.
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