I was explaining to a guy at work why the HD2 is such a great phone and the topic of WP7 came up.
I explained to him that I was about to abandon Android and switch over to a WP7 device because the market has become flooded with Android devices and "devvin" is all over the place without a concise (except for CM 7 and MIUI) back-end. WP7 development, on the other hand, seems to be pretty stable because there are so few devices running it.
Anyway. He asked if there were any other devices to which WP 7 had been ported and I was at a loss. Other than the (around 20 according to Wikipedia) few devices that officially run WP7, the HD2, as far as I know, is the only device that's capable of unofficially running WP7. Is this right? Are any other devices running WP7 unofficially?
If not, honestly, then that makes me want to hold on to my HD2 even tighter than before. It's such an amazing piece of hardware and still very able to keep up with modern phones 2 years after it's release.
HTC HD2 is getting pretty close to running WP7 as well as an HD7.
Toshiba TG01 has some WP7 ROMs available, but their functionality is quite limited at the moment.
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So, now that windows phone 7 is out, is there any chance of us getting a port for the rhodium? I realize every windows phone 7 phone has a snapdragon and the os is pretty resource extensive, but is it possible, mindful of the performance degradation?
As has been said in the dozen other threads on the same subject...no.
kanwal236 said:
So, now that windows phone 7 is out, is there any chance of us getting a port for the rhodium? I realize every windows phone 7 phone has a snapdragon and the os is pretty resource extensive, but is it possible, mindful of the performance degradation?
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You're kidding; yes? It makes no sense to try; however maybe the HD2.
tbh the OS is very complex and idk how itll behave on a storage card if youre talking about a port like XDANDROID, its very possible but itll need some serious time to optimize and be able to run flawless on our TP2s
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Even if it were possible for developers to dedicate their time to yet another major long-term project, why would they when the hardware necessary to use WP7 isn't supported on Windows Mobile devices or if they found a work-around it wouldn't work as good.
I think the fact that we have Android is good enough, WP7 is a fresh OS and deserves better. — It's the same mentality as people who use OSX Visual Styles on their Windows 7 machines, it makes no sense or the people who use the iPhone or now WP7 overlay app on their device.
As much as I love the touch pro 2 for it's solid build quality and amazing keyboard; let's be honest, the smudgy resistive screen isn't nice compared with a capacitive AMOLED screen and many other reasons why WP7 wouldn't be as glamorous as on a new device.
*Also, look how long it took the team to get Android to run to a usable/enjoyable point, by that time Froyo was already released and you could have made enough money to go out and buy a brand new Android device. — With WP7 the project will be even longer in my opinion, as there are more components to think about in regards to how the OS operates and functions. (No 'expandable' SD-card, can only sync via Zune software and many other barriers)
*-No disrespect to any of the XDAndroid team you all did an awesome job, just pointing out the fact that delays and issues are to be expected, so WP7 would just be an even greater headache which isn't worth it, might as well start a WP7 project fresh with WP7 hardware then the fun can begin.
I have followed XDA for quite some time and have been waiting for someone to get a little bored with android like myself and start the modding of the new WinMo 7 phones to run both Android and WinMo 7. I can't find anything on it. Is it just not possible (yet)??? I know the devices can handle it...1ghz, 16gb internal, plenty of memory...Vibrant, etc. Seems like the perfect device for a dual boot Eclair/Froyo and WinMo 7. Windows Mobile 6x running Android is old and the 1st one I did was the Tytn II by HTC. Slow, but it was still nice to have both.
Any Devs out there wanna push this? I'll buy hardware and do any tests wanted. Seems Samsung specs are pretty equal between the Vibrant and Focus or even like the port of Android to the HD2...can it be done using the HD7 from T-Mo?
In the case of Samsung, why wouldn't you just get the Captivate (Galaxy S)? Already has Android. The Focus is basically the same phone...
scottadams2m2003 said:
I have followed XDA for quite some time and have been waiting for someone to get a little bored with android like myself and start the modding of the new WinMo 7 phones to run both Android and WinMo 7. I can't find anything on it. Is it just not possible (yet)??? I know the devices can handle it...1ghz, 16gb internal, plenty of memory...Vibrant, etc. Seems like the perfect device for a dual boot Eclair/Froyo and WinMo 7. Windows Mobile 6x running Android is old and the 1st one I did was the Tytn II by HTC. Slow, but it was still nice to have both.
Any Devs out there wanna push this? I'll buy hardware and do any tests wanted. Seems Samsung specs are pretty equal between the Vibrant and Focus or even like the port of Android to the HD2...can it be done using the HD7 from T-Mo?
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why start from ZERO when HD2 is already running Android pretty smoothly and will be getting wp7 soon? Not to bash or anything but wp7 may not be as easy to tinker with as compared to wm6.
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Does anybody know, about porting this wp7 build, for our devices, if it possible, or not, waiting for answers, thank's.It will be the better than porting Android(which is so hard to do)
Porting wp7 is way harder,you don't have source,you are out of the minimal requirements and you don't even have enough nand..
Android is much more doable..
hi.
we have new htc diamond and I want to ask if is available Android for this phone!
Thank you!
don't dream about that
It's possible but it must be not that easy than Android and it must be really so hard and it takes more a long times to development. I'm sure someday there'll be someone will do that in XDA-Dev.......
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It's possible but it must be not that easy than Android and it must be really so hard and it takes more a long times to development. I'm sure someday there'll be someone will do that in XDA-Dev.......
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I don't think it'll ever come to the htc touch diamond, cause it's like putting android on a Samsung E900 or something, no-one iswaiting on that
Android might eventually be available for NAND on Diamond but my guess is WP7 will never be ported.. Android is just the better OS out of them all
Android had a slow start with coming to the world of mobile operating systems and the G1 was a superb example of what can be achieved. Since then Android has rocketed to the top of the charts and is now running on almost all new devices. Being open source there are a variety of different builds and mods, Including a vast growing number of apps coming to the market
In my opinion Apple will have to do something spectacular with its OS to become the #1 OS again
Come on, think about it, The Diamond struggles to run WM6.5, hell it struggles to run 6.1 sometimes
You really think it will run WP7 ? lol Not a chance
Exactly. And even if it does run it, the battery life is just not enough..
I have TWO 1340mAh batteries and I sometime drain them both in one day!
The 900mAh stock is not enough for half a day for me lol
Although running android 2.3 through haret, I get over a day with the 1340 battery... and its very smooth so having it on NAND it would last a lot longer and I imagine would be somewhat more smooth than what it is now
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Why would you want to downgrade? There is no "Windows Mobile 7" port for Diamond because nobody wants useless crap on their smartphone.
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I have my Omnia 7 since 2 months and I wonder why there are not a custom Firmware or a Android port or something else like this.
I thought the Device is very Similar to the HTC HD7 (except the integrated Memory) . And so why are there so less experience and interesting in the portation and jailbreaking of this WP7 devices.
On the HTC Devices the HSPL is hacked and you can have an jailbreaked firmware on it but on Optimus and the Omnia aren´t any interesting tools or OS to try.
HTC HD7 on Android: youtube.com/watch?v=7f3hTkoDlkU
hacked HSPL on HD7: wp7connect.com/2011/08/01/dft-flashes-mango-7720-on-hd7-then-releases-tool-for-custom-roms
to the Developers ,hackers and other people that can make it:
Please make an Custom Rom , an Android port or a jailbreak for Mango.
My Omnia 7 is like a prisoner.
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I have my Omnia 7 since 2 months and I wonder why there are not a custom Firmware or a Android port or something else like this.
I thought the Device is very Similar to the HTC HD7 (except the integrated Memory) . And so why are there so less experience and interesting in the portation and jailbreaking of this WP7 devices.
On the HTC Devices the HSPL is hacked and you can have an jailbreaked firmware on it but on Optimus and the Omnia aren´t any interesting tools or OS to try.
HTC HD7 on Android: youtube.com/watch?v=7f3hTkoDlkU
hacked HSPL on HD7: wp7connect.com/2011/08/01/dft-flashes-mango-7720-on-hd7-then-releases-tool-for-custom-roms
to the Developers ,hackers and other people that can make it:
Please make an Custom Rom , an Android port or a jailbreak for Mango.
My Omnia 7 is like a prisoner.
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someone is going to "android sucks" or "omg noooo android laaagsss!" Or otherwise try to shout down your question... but the video clearly shows it works well. I would imagine the developers see very little benefit in working hard to get android rom on any wp7 device for two reasons, related to each other:
1 there are not many wp7 devices or users to install it
2 there are TONS of android devices already to play on
If the device in the video is a clone of the hd7 or not doesn't really matter to me. Phones have such similar hardware now its hard to not call any of them a clone or knockoff.
I don´t think that the devices are not popular enough for a portation, even the unknown Vodafone 360 (Samsung H1 and M1) has there own Android ports samsungi8320.freeforums.org/h1droid-f2.html .
And i think thats not so hard to port the Android Version from the Galaxy S or the Desire to the Omnia 7 , Optimus 7 or other 7 series based Devices from similar Android devices. The only problem (i read it on a website) is the bootloader but the HSPL was hacked by the HTC devices.
So my question:
Why there no Android Roms for Windows Phones (even the iPhone has Android roms I don´t think that the devices are not popular enough for a portation, even the unknown Vodafone 360 (Samsung H1 and M1) has there own Android ports samsungi8320.freeforums.org/h1droid-f2.html .
And i think thats not so hard to port the Android Version from the Galaxy S or the Desire to the Omnia 7 , Optimus 7 or other 7 series based Devices from similar Android devices. The only problem (i read it on a website) is the bootloader but the HSPL was hacked by the HTC devices.
So my question:
Why there no Android Roms for Windows Phones (even the iPhone has Android roms youtube.com/watch?v=zEQ5E_IaKTo&feature=related ) the Bootloader was hacked by DFT (this Team make the CF foor HTC 7 devices and the WP7 for the famous HD2).
And why there no custom Roms for non HTC devices like LG or Samsung, I thought there many other talented developers for it?
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I found the HD7 with Android on ebay: ebay.com.au/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170569978287&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fshop.ebay.com.au%3A80%2F%3F_from%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dp3907.m570.l1313%26_nkw%3D170569978287%26_sacat%3DSee-All-Categories%26_fvi%
Er, just buy the android equivalent of the Omnia rather than wait for a port that will be buggy and take time to refine?
But the Galaxy S has only plastic.
The Omnia has better processing (I hope you understand me).
And I don´t want Android now for my Omnia, I want rather a custom rom.
But at the moment there no alternative
to the standard (restricted) Windows Phone7.
I know there is a option to keep the jailbreak under Mango with unlock.xml ,but after Hardreset, I must flash 7004 back and then I must flash ,7008 , 7329, 7400 and the Final Mango.
This takes over 2 hours.
I wish there is a custom rom like this from the HTC Devices.
The suggestions are apt
buy an android device if you want an android. Assuming we can run native, and we can run haret, it will still take time to port.
Just buy the device of your choice. There's plenty out with many different price points
So what do you guys think? Would you use webOS on your shiny gnex if it was made available?
Since HP announced the release of the webOS source code, the recently abandoned operating system has grown a rather loyal following. Progress has been made in homebrew development and in custom builds for webOS native devices. Many forum members have been clamoring for a port of webOS to Android devices for several months now. Initial ports were expected to appear for the Motorola Droid or its GSM counterpart, the Milestone, since the devices share the same OMAP3 3430 processor with the Palm Pre (the very first native webOS device).
Recently an HTC EVO 3D was spotted running a build of webOS 3.0, the version that came with the notorious HP TouchPad. Originally posted by Ryan Hope (@_puffthemagic_) on Twitter, the 3 still images of webOS running have now been supplemented with a YouTube video that can be found here. While not functional enough for actual use, the operating system boots without issue. Ryan originally started work on the port before HP released the source code for webOS. With the release of both the Android kernel and the full webOS source porting progress can only move forward from here. Could this mean widespread availability of webOS ports on Android devices soon? Depending on interest level and developer involvement, it is a possibility!
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No
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I'd definitely try it out for kicks, webOS was a great OS. The only problem is it was great. It's outdated now with a huge lack of apps. There's already an open source project with Android, and it's backed by a huge company. WebOS will be purely community driven with people working on it in their spare time or just for proof of concepts.
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I'd definitely try it out for kicks, webOS was a great OS. The only problem is it was great. It's outdated now with a huge lack of apps. There's already an open source project with Android, and it's backed by a huge company. WebOS will be purely community driven with people working on it in their spare time or just for proof of concepts.
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Same here. I'd say it has great potential. Now that it is opensource more developers will consider it as a viable app platform.
NO...I had a Pre Plus since it launched. First things first, it did have potential, webOS that is, if only devs would focus on it to bring iOS and Android apps. Secondly, the phone itself made me hate webOS and I doubt I will ever consider going back to a webOS device/phone.
WebOS was superb for its time. But the problem is it has not grown with new competitive features and additions like android and iOS has. Its been starved and abandoned, so it will never achieve parity with android.
I'd like to dualboot webOS, or even temporarily flash it. I never got to play with wOS, but i'd like to.
no way
the maturity level is too far behind android.
webOS is awesome. but circumstances -- bad hardware & worse marketing --> low user base --> no apps -- doomed it.
sad story. i liked it a lot.
I don't even use WebOS on my HP Touchpad, no way I'd put it on my Galaxy Nexus or any Android device.
The OS is nice, but without apps WebOS gets boring real quick. And I kinda like having home screens anyway.
ICS for sure.
I wouldn't mind running a webos UI over android but webos by itself is a no from me.
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I have an old phone I am not using that currently has an ICS rom on it, but if someone were to make a rom for it, I'd probably throw it on there to see what all the fuss is about webOS but more than likely remove it and put back ICS on it.
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So what do you guys think? Would you use webOS on your shiny gnex if it was made available?
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I loled. That's like using a v dub engine in a space ship.
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No. Feature set is no longer competitive and app ecosystem is far behind.
That said, Android was in the same boat but I loved it and the G1 anyway.
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You know what would be great? If someone developed a way for android apps to run on webOS. Similiar to what BB is doing for the playbook. It wouldn't be perfect ofcourse, but still a nice compromise.
If WebOS had two years more development then maybe but ICS is just light years away.
It wasn't the hardware lagging webos. Great concept very poor implementation which is why it failed.
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It wasn't the hardware lagging webos. Great concept very poor implementation which is why it failed.
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Well that's the whole reason opensource webos is interesting: now it won't be limited to crappy hardware from palm and hp.
Is this a joke thread?
WebOS was good but its OLD.
Thats like asking if I'd like to have my bluray player hooked up to a CRT LMAO.
ICS is the lastest and greatest high end OS on a high end device. You don't mix new tech with old software haha
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Is this a joke thread?
WebOS was good but its OLD.
Thats like asking if I'd like to have my bluray player hooked up to a CRT LMAO.
ICS is the lastest and greatest high end OS on a high end device. You don't mix new tech with old software haha
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Come on... How long ago did HP Touchpad came out? 6 months ago?
And when the developers have the source they can improve it and make it much better.