[Q] How to cook a ROM? - Samsung Galaxy Nexus

I've been looking into creating my own Galaxy Nexus ROM but I can't for the life of me find out where to start. This is mainly going to be just for entertainment purposes of course.
As far as I know (which is not very much at all) I must compile the AOSP source code. The problem is I don't even know what compiling is. I don't mind if I have to learn as I have a very high interest in this and I'm possitive that I could learn fast.
Could someone please point me in the right direction to making a ROM?
I've also heard of people doing RAM optimizations,fullu deo-dexed, init.d scripts and speed optimizations. How would one go about doing that?
Any help would be GREATLY appreciated.

You have a lot of reading ahead of you.
I know there are guides for some of the things you mention at freeyourandroid.com but honestly man start reading
Android - making grown men pee sitting down since 2.0

Read the stickied post in the general forum on how to compile from source.
Also, you should really know and understand how the android system works before making a rom.
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Hypercore said:
As far as I know (which is not very much at all) I must compile the AOSP source code. The problem is I don't even know what compiling is.
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Let's start here. Do you know much about operating systems? You say you don't know what compiling is... so I take it you've never done any programming, even, say, a quick intro class in university? That's not a huge deal--I'm no programmer but I work with OSes all the time (especially Linux) and have learned a lot of scripting here and there.
I'd say start with learning about how Android works internally. Might even want to read up some on Linux if you don't know much about it, since that's the foundation.
There are plenty of guides on various forums (at least, there used to be) here, but a good place to start is to take an update .zip file and pick it apart. Start with a basic AOSP ROM, maybe, and start digging through it on your computer to see what's there and what does what.

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[Q] Looking to Develop for DINC

Hi Guys,
So I looked in the general android development and DINC development but did not really find much. Basically I am looking into getting into Android Development. I just graduated Clarkson University yesterday and am going to work for Procter and Gamble and am going to have a lot of free time nights/weekends and want to get into this. As for my coding experience, I do not have much in java, however, I have taken a few comp sci classes in high school and have used MatLAB and LabVIEW a lot during college as a Mech E. So I am very familiar with coding and the logic behind it, just a matter of learning a new language.
I have started by downloading the Android SDK (just updated to 2.3) and have been doing a few of the tutorials they have on developers.android site such as Hello World, however this seems more geared to developing apps, which I do have a few ideas for. But what I would like to get into right now is some ROM development for the DINC as I have a few ideas for this too and would like to start with this.
So I was wondering if anyone could give some device on how they got started? Just pulled the code from HTC and opened it up and started looking around? Do a lot of you use Eclipse for development as they seem to suggest for apps? Is there any good guides to getting into ROM development as I have not quite found any? Also does anyone have any ideas and need some help work on things, I think this would be a good way to learn.
Thank you,
Brendan
Hello these links might help.
Porting
http://source.android.com/
Source
http://android.git.kernel.org/
CyanogenMod
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Main_Page
CVPCS
http://howto.ccroms.net/
XDA - Compile AOSP Froyo
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=704561
Just realize it is a lot of work. You can start from pure source, or from CM, or CVPCS. Starting from pure source will give lots of problems but will probably teach you a lot about the system. Either way those links should be of some assistance. Look at CM device setup to see how device setups work. He has a working setup for most devices.
Alright! Another one comes aboard. Good luck man, keep us posted, ask questiions here cuz most are very knowledgeable and willing to help out. Dont give up, get us something 2.3 and very much thanks in advance for doing what you do.
Glad to see a thread like this. I have been interested in doing ROMs for a long time now but didn't really know where to start. This should get me running
If you run into any problems don't hesitate to contact me. You can reach by twitter at @linuxmotion or pm me for an email. Though I am relatively new, I can surely help if the you want some. Hope those links helped
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In also looking to get my feet wet
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[Q] need someone to help with learning how to make roms

i wanna get into the dev community. I realized i use what people make, but unlike alot of people, i wanna give back a little. Basically what im asking for is someone for me to message throughout this whole ordeal, and help me with some step by step things, walkthroughs, videos, anything to help me get going. Id prefer them to be roms devs themselves. i also enjoy long walks on the beach and just getting to know each other
I'm in the same boat bro. I wanna get into it as well, although I don't have the time to devote to it right now.
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SynysterSilence said:
i wanna get into the dev community. I realized i use what people make, but unlike alot of people, i wanna give back a little. Basically what im asking for is someone for me to message throughout this whole ordeal, and help me with some step by step things, walkthroughs, videos, anything to help me get going. Id prefer them to be roms devs themselves. i also enjoy long walks on the beach and just getting to know each other
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there are numerous tutorials on xda, rootz, and other sites on building from source and/or making sense (oem skin) roms
theres no quick step to get going, though building straight from someones source (which isnt really developing) requires just a few commands once ur build environment is set up
really though, most rom devs (well maybe not most, but many) started with theming first to get gain a working knowledge of the structure/set up of a rom and what controls what...as well as basically smali editing/apk decompiling and the tools needed
aosp requires a semi working knowledge of java to actually build your own things rather than syncing and building someone elses
there are plenty of devs that enjoying helping new folks out...but its kind of understood that you ll do some research on your own and have some knowledge of what ur doing...its a lot to kind of ask someone to talk you through every single thing that goes into it
from my own personal experience it, it took me several months of theming before i felt confident enough to tackle a rom project...and even then they were rom collaborations with people a lot smarter than me (sbrissen, adrynalyne, imnuts, etc)
nitsuj17 said:
there are numerous tutorials on xda, rootz, and other sites on building from source and/or making sense (oem skin) roms
theres no quick step to get going, though building straight from someones source (which isnt really developing) requires just a few commands once ur build environment is set up
really though, most rom devs (well maybe not most, but many) started with theming first to get gain a working knowledge of the structure/set up of a rom and what controls what...as well as basically smali editing/apk decompiling and the tools needed
aosp requires a semi working knowledge of java to actually build your own things rather than syncing and building someone elses
there are plenty of devs that enjoying helping new folks out...but its kind of understood that you ll do some research on your own and have some knowledge of what ur doing...its a lot to kind of ask someone to talk you through every single thing that goes into it
from my own personal experience it, it took me several months of theming before i felt confident enough to tackle a rom project...and even then they were rom collaborations with people a lot smarter than me (sbrissen, adrynalyne, imnuts, etc)
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so if i were to start off with theming, what tools/programs would i need for my windows 7 running computer?
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so if i were to start off with theming, what tools/programs would i need for my windows 7 running computer?
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JDK, SDK, apktool, gimp, notepad++,and there's a search tool that I can't remember off the top of my head. That's all I got right now. And all I'm gonna run for a while.
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awesome, now where do i go to start learning how to theme?
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awesome, now where do i go to start learning how to theme?
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This might help...my really old fascinate theme guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=932856
nitsuj17 said:
This might help...my really old fascinate theme guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=932856
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wow good stuff bro thanks alot
wow this is actually just about what im looking for. its not very in depth, mostly the basics from the looks of it, but it sure as hell is a great start. i appreciate it.
I'm taking a java course this summer to help me make some ROMs. I would recommend it.
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i would but i dont have the time nor the money for it. my dads got his masters in computers tho i could probably get help from him for things like that.
My parents gave me their old laptop, I have ubuntu on it. When I get the time, I want to create my ROM based on CM9. I want to learn Java too, because I would like to do some themeing too.
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My parents gave me their old laptop, I have ubuntu on it. When I get the time, I want to create my ROM based on CM9. I want to learn Java too, because I would like to do some themeing too.
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Theming doesn't require java knowledge

Looking to study Kernel Development could use some pointing in the right direction.

Looks like im getting involved earlier than I planned. But other than compiling a stock kernel from source. The guides for our phone never really got finished. Looks like the international guides as well as android kernel guides in general will lend some guidance.
So if anyone can point me in the right direction. Maybe even help when i get stuck.
Guides I found for our phone:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1291122
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1442870
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1494804
I realize the problem with leak kernels on our phone other than not having source is with recovery being part of the initramfs. After reading up on the initramfs scheme one would think we can extract modify the files and repack it into the kernel like steady has been doing.
A quick google turns up a guide for the international gs2 which i hope will help me. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1294436
Then there is things like adding init.d support which i might be able to bug sfhub about. Most importantly building cwm to be packed into the initramfs. Also learned root was a part of the kernel but had i known zimage was the kernel partition I probably would have figured. But i have yet to look at either of these since I only decided yesterday to do this.
Im going to have this phone another 1.5 years so if were losing people I mind as well shuffle my projects and do this one now. I am not looking to create and maintain a custom cwm or anything.
Ive been a pascal programmer for 14 years. I can read and translate C syntax languages. I studied C++ but never having practiced it I can not write fluently without a reference in hand. I am a bit of a linux noob i mean i have compiled kernels and drivers even a from scratch gentoo install but that was all from instructions. Its one thing to do something its different to understand it.
I wrote this from my cell phone so sorry for worse than usual spelling grammar and lack of punctuation.
Also figured in my searching looking at threads started by formerly active devs might turns up some stuff.
Chris41g had a thread in the OG Epic section perfectly titled "To the people wanting learn to code kernels and roms for the Epic" http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1177076
Edit - Having some time to read before i pass out that third guide that sweetwater did for our phone is rather complete up to date and he is still hanging around.
good luck man, i hope you get up and running with this. thanks for taking the challenge. the community is lacking in the kernel area and any support is greatly appreciated, by me anyway. thanks again.
Rain can you pm me?
RainMotorsports said:
Also figured in my searching looking at threads started by formerly active devs might turns up some stuff.
Chris41g had a thread in the OG Epic section perfectly titled "To the people wanting learn to code kernels and roms for the Epic" http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1177076
Edit - Having some time to read before i pass out that third guide that sweetwater did for our phone is rather complete up to date and he is still hanging around.
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Both of the E4GT guides will work no problem and are actually pretty simple, anyone here can do it. I promise that. There are some issues though. Our EL29 source is a little funky so building with the first E4GT guide will get you a booting CWM kernel but wifi will break. After A LOT of testing we found the problem in the init.d file and the fix is in Sweetwaterburn's github source. There were several of us who built kernels(even EL29 with CWM, which is weird that everyone still uses EL26 to flash AOSP but anyways...) and a few like interloper and agat who were able to incorporate various governors. That was around the time all of the leaks started so then the kernels just kind of fell of the map because why waste the time?
Now onto the ICS stock repacks.....There is a ton of risk in testing those. Look how many bricks steady and the team rogue had not to mention team troll and random users. Why not just wait a little till source drops? Once source drops building kernels will be a ton easier. Also Calkulin and the new guy(can't think of his tag) have built unsecure stock kernels so that should satisfy all of the needs for leaks.
Here is one Agat built: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22463351&postcount=265
here is another EL29 I built: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22461146&postcount=264
Thanks DTM. I read on Steady's G+ he is definitively moving away from the E4GT as he has given it to his wife.
The amount of activity and the people involved in SweetWaterBurns thread surprised me and now that I know that I don't think people should be too worried. I mean we already know part of this is a bit of impatience.
I will still be learning for the long run. Hope to see some good things with the community thread when the ICS kernel source is out.
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Thanks DTM. I read on Steady's G+ he is definitively moving away from the E4GT as he has given it to his wife.
The amount of activity and the people involved in SweetWaterBurns thread surprised me and now that I know that I don't think people should be too worried. I mean we already know part of this is a bit of impatience.
I will still be learning for the long run. Hope to see some good things with the community thread when the ICS kernel source is out.
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I encourage everyone to attempt a kernel. I have no formal computer training and I just dual booted my laptop, next thing you know I was churning out kernels. We definitely need some variety in our kernel selection, I just don't advise it for the leaks unless you can afford some bricks. Because we have beast "big brother" in the international SGSII community it is pretty easy porting over some of their modifications to our source code via winmerge or copy and paste. It is also a lot less risky than messing with leaks.

Help start DEVing

Hey guys. Now that the SGIII is out, I fear we will loose great developers to the bigger and better devices. This is the reason I want to start developing for our SGH-T989's. There's only one problem... I'M A NOOB! Well I've been rooting my phones since I got my first Andriod device, the Samsung Galaxy S 4G. Although that's just because I've trolled around just reading threads. So I'd like a little guidance in the right direction. Remeber I'm completely new at this. The only thing I know I need is that I need Linux. Besides that I know nothing else. Thanks guys for all the time and effort you put into providing us with awesome roms, kernels, etc.
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Hey guys. Now that the SGIII is out, I fear we will loose great developers to the bigger and better devices. This is the reason I want to start developing for our SGH-T989's. There's only one problem... I'M A NOOB! Well I've been rooting my phones since I got my first Andriod device, the Samsung Galaxy S 4G. Although that's just because I've trolled around just reading threads. So I'd like a little guidance in the right direction. Remeber I'm completely new at this. The only thing I know I need is that I need Linux. Besides that I know nothing else. Thanks guys for all the time and effort you put into providing us with awesome roms, kernels, etc.
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GOOGLE!!!!!!!!!!!! I too am a noob but I started at Google I know c language, I just don't have the bandwidth to download the some 10 gigs of source code.
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I'm in the same boat. Unless you have a formal education in programming, expect a tough road. I know some c/c++ but most of my knowledge is in web development languages like PHP, JavaScript, etc.
I successfully built and flashed my own CM9 a few days ago but have yet to get into the customization. Baby steps I guess. Good luck to you though.
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But seriously check out Google there are oodles of tutorials for people who are just starting out to get their computer set up .
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Well I'll say I would like to start myself. I keep looking around have all the bottom end fundamentals but have no clue as to what to do. I can read on Google til wee hrs of the night but it makes no sense being the word NOOB is carried on my back.
Either way, all I've done so far is download all the req software that dsixda recommends to do. Kitchen, cygwin, jdk, and sdk. Now after all of that I'm stuck in limbo. All the research I've done gives terminology that I don't understand. Everyone says its super easy but yet we have maybe 30 devs packed up doing roms for us. I know for a fact there's more than 3000 T-Mobile users for this device and that's not to include the very alike SR, telus, and what not.
So I agree, we need things simplified in order for us to understand (even) basics. That being said as I asked a few ppl in this forum already, I don't mind getting my feet wet but I sure in hell dont wanna drown at the 3 foot section of the pool either
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Go to the android and android dev forums. You will find nice Rom and kernel tutorials to mess with. The rest comes with trying out others hacks and mods and seeing what those do. Then down to log cats and so forth to see how an application or module plays. And if you want to try your own mod, it's too what others have done or code Google to see what a lib,api, or module can do for you.
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Well I'll say I would like to start myself. I keep looking around have all the bottom end fundamentals but have no clue as to what to do. I can read on Google til wee hrs of the night but it makes no sense being the word NOOB is carried on my back.
Either way, all I've done so far is download all the req software that dsixda recommends to do. Kitchen, cygwin, jdk, and sdk. Now after all of that I'm stuck in limbo. All the research I've done gives terminology that I don't understand. Everyone says its super easy but yet we have maybe 30 devs packed up doing roms for us. I know for a fact there's more than 3000 T-Mobile users for this device and that's not to include the very alike SR, telus, and what not.
So I agree, we need things simplified in order for us to understand (even) basics. That being said as I asked a few ppl in this forum already, I don't mind getting my feet wet but I sure in hell dont wanna drown at the 3 foot section of the pool either
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Well it's pretty much setting up all the requirements like computer paths and folders. I use Ubuntu, then after getting all of it setup, you repo sync the source and wait a couple days there are simplified English friendly tutorials. Using a search engine is a skill. ^-^ choose search terms wisely. And use quotes.
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datrapstar said:
Well I'll say I would like to start myself. I keep looking around have all the bottom end fundamentals but have no clue as to what to do. I can read on Google til wee hrs of the night but it makes no sense being the word NOOB is carried on my back.
Either way, all I've done so far is download all the req software that dsixda recommends to do. Kitchen, cygwin, jdk, and sdk. Now after all of that I'm stuck in limbo. All the research I've done gives terminology that I don't understand. Everyone says its super easy but yet we have maybe 30 devs packed up doing roms for us. I know for a fact there's more than 3000 T-Mobile users for this device and that's not to include the very alike SR, telus, and what not.
So I agree, we need things simplified in order for us to understand (even) basics. That being said as I asked a few ppl in this forum already, I don't mind getting my feet wet but I sure in hell don't wanna drown at the 3 foot section of the pool either
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I tried the dsixda kitchen route. It's more of a "look what I did" kind of thing. I quickly jumped that ship and set up Ubuntu so I could get my repo on. I have complete AOKP and CM9 source but I have no idea where to start with it. I'm sort of treading water at this point until I find the right information to get this train rolling.
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bobpantsspongesquare said:
I tried the dsixda kitchen route. It's more of a "look what I did" kind of thing. I quickly jumped that ship and set up Ubuntu so I could get my repo on. I have complete AOKP and CM9 source but I have no idea where to start with it. I'm sort of treading water at this point until I find the right information to get this train rolling.
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I also have a partition set up for Ubuntu. Issue is I can't get it to connect to the internet. Then again I'm on a modded dell studio. Like I said, I got all the start up software. All I need is someone yo guide of how to set up. I cant do it if I'm on Ubuntu due to lack of connection. So if anything , let's make a thread to help each other out. ( not that I would be much help) but once I learn something I can pass along info to the next person. We all learn and want to share
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datrapstar said:
I also have a partition set up for Ubuntu. Issue is I can't get it to connect to the internet. Then again I'm on a modded dell studio. Like I said, I got all the start up software. All I need is someone yo guide of how to set up. I cant do it if I'm on Ubuntu due to lack of connection. So if anything , let's make a thread to help each other out. ( not that I would be much help) but once I learn something I can pass along info to the next person. We all learn and want to share
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I run Ubuntu through Virtualbox. It works great and you don't have to deal with boot loaders and such. I've had no internet connection issues either. After that, following one of the guides for setting Ubuntu up for Android is advisable. I've been through the Android Developers Guide, the AOKP ICS Guide ( Jelly Bean Guide ) and the CM9 Guide. Any of these will get you the source code and a working, flashable zip. Beyond that, at least for now, I'm not much help.
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I run Ubuntu through Virtualbox. It works great and you don't have to deal with boot loaders and such. I've had no internet connection issues either. After that, following one of the guides for setting Ubuntu up for Android is advisable. I've been through the Android Developers Guide, the AOKP ICS Guide ( Jelly Bean Guide ) and the CM9 Guide. Any of these will get you the source code and a working, flashable zip. Beyond that, at least for now, I'm not much help.
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Thats a start tho... so here we got it started, let's lend a hand to each other and let's start doing this. Myself, I'm jealous of the SR forum cuz it seems they are helping each other build amongst themselves which is what I think we should be doing here as well. So to get virtual box and get sum research on it. Will come back here after I get all situated. Once again thanks for opening this up
edit: as I make any progress I will post up and let you guys know how Im coming along. on my laptop now about to get this rolling.
reedit: well cant do much, my set up doesnt support it. i will find a way tho. best believe it. even if it cost me to get another laptop
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=667298
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Android Development N00B

Hi, I'm Jacob. And I don't know if this is in the correct section, but I do plan on developing apps mainly for the Galaxy S3, so hopefully I've chosen the section wisely...
Now that that's out of the way, I'd like to say that I'm very interested in Android Development. Unfortunately I have no coding knowlage at all. I would love to learn Java, C++, etc. Is there anybody who would be willing to take me under their wing and teach me some of this? Whether it's just simple stuff or not, I honestly don't care. I would just love to jump into creating insane root apps right now, but I have nowhere near the kind of knowlage that I need to even get started. I'm also interested in creating custom ROMs. (and or themes)
Anyways, my point is, I'd like help, and I want to know if there is anybody willing to.
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Hi, I'm Jacob. And I don't know if this is in the correct section, but I do plan on developing apps mainly for the Galaxy S3, so hopefully I've chosen the section wisely...
Now that that's out of the way, I'd like to say that I'm very interested in Android Development. Unfortunately I have no coding knowlage at all. I would love to learn Java, C++, etc. Is there anybody who would be willing to take me under their wing and teach me some of this? Whether it's just simple stuff or not, I honestly don't care. I would just love to jump into creating insane root apps right now, but I have nowhere near the kind of knowlage that I need to even get started. I'm also interested in creating custom ROMs. (and or themes)
Anyways, my point is, I'd like help, and I want to know if there is anybody willing to.
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Good luck man. I've tried finding help to no avail. Programming and all this good stuff takes time and skill.... Very little time on people's hands these days....
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If I can, I would recommend reading through "Java Methods A and AB" to learn java. Very well written and theres a pdf of it online if you search too.
Thats how I learned and other than that, its just putting lots of time into it. I research everything I come across that I'm not familiar with, and now apart from the things actually covered in that book, I know how to make nice GUI's, how to cryptographic encoders work, how to bundle resources with a runnable JAR, etc. You just have to be willing to put the time in to learn, but from there its easy
Also, if you come across it too early, I would suggest not messing with threading and concurrency until you have a good grasp of java
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you can't jump directly into android programming ,first, learn java and you'll be better off . After you've acquired sufficient skills in basic java - developer.android.com can assist you furthers . Make no mistake this ain't cat walk and would take time and patience since you are starting from absolute zero . Moreover i don't think anybody would love to take you - 'under their wings' - you are on your own mostly unless you take up some real time courses/classes in real life
why fix it if it ain't broken ?
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you can't jump directly into android programming ,first, learn java and you'll be better off . After you've acquired sufficient skills in basic java - developer.android.com can assist you furthers . Make no mistake this ain't cat walk and would take time and patience since you are starting from absolute zero . Moreover i don't think anybody would love to take you - 'under their wings' - you are on your own mostly unless you take up some real time courses/classes in real life
why fix it if it ain't broken ?
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Thanks for the info. I am very willing to take classes IRL but I'm nothing but a middle school student. I'll do the best I can to find some way to learn these concepts. Hopefully you'll be seeing me around in the Developer's section sometime soon!
Hey jtkemp.
I'm a sophomore in high school and I've been trying to learn to program. Here's what advice I can give you. First get a basic understanding of java, then once you have that down go though the android programming libraries at android.devolper.com. Then after that I have been taking apps currently out there already and modifying them to get better at it. Stay in touch and maybe we can help reach other out, I've been hoping I could find someone that would even let me help with like some stupid stuff they didn't want to do but so far no one. Good luck! It's a lot of fun!
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Here are some links to some free online classes you can take
http://rootzwiki.com/index.php?/topic/602-Free-online-programming/CS-courses-for-beginners
And yes for many reasons a ton of people on XDA don't like to or don't have the time to talk about development. Everyone wants to be "the man". It's all baby steps really and depending on what type of development you're interested in (custom ROMs, apps, kernels etc) It all takes time. The hardest part I've had is developing an app. I've used Tasker to make a few personal apps but am still working with eclipse, which I've been told is not all that great to begin with.
But it all depends on what your interests are. Wanna mod and theme? Check out apktool and how to reverse engineer apk's. Wanna make apps and ROMs? Set up a Linux distro (I use Ubuntu and Arch) and download the sdk, CM repo, and the Jdk. Most importantly, use Google. Every thing I posted and virtually any questions I've had have been solved with a search. May take a while but the info is out there (How to set up apktool SGS3, How to install Ubuntu, How to Build CM 10.1, etc)
Feel free to drop me a PM, I'm off until fall semester and have some time on my hands.
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I use eclipse and find the environment a lot better than other IDE's. I've tried netbeans but went back to eclipse because for me eclipse is just more intuitive
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I learned a lot of development knowledge from just hanging out in an irc with some real cool dudes, learned how to at least understand java and a little c from studying some stuff, I'd recommend the same. A lot of people don't wanna help you because they don't know how much you know. Try to get a development presense, make a theme or theme an app. Just your name out. Give some devs some logs! Make some friends, they'll help you when you get stuck but no one will hold your hand. Do you use Linux? Learn the Linux command line. Try making a kernel for it, whether it works or not is errelevant, just learn the process and get an idea of what all that entails.
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fergie716 said:
Here are some links to some free online classes you can take
http://rootzwiki.com/index.php?/topic/602-Free-online-programming/CS-courses-for-beginners
And yes for many reasons a ton of people on XDA don't like to or don't have the time to talk about development. Everyone wants to be "the man". It's all baby steps really and depending on what type of development you're interested in (custom ROMs, apps, kernels etc) It all takes time. The hardest part I've had is developing an app. I've used Tasker to make a few personal apps but am still working with eclipse, which I've been told is not all that great to begin with.
But it all depends on what your interests are. Wanna mod and theme? Check out apktool and how to reverse engineer apk's. Wanna make apps and ROMs? Set up a Linux distro (I use Ubuntu and Arch) and download the sdk, CM repo, and the Jdk. Most importantly, use Google. Every thing I posted and virtually any questions I've had have been solved with a search. May take a while but the info is out there (How to set up apktool SGS3, How to install Ubuntu, How to Build CM 10.1, etc)
Feel free to drop me a PM, I'm off until fall semester and have some time on my hands.
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*chuckles* I use Ubuntu as my default operating system anyway.
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jtkemp101010 said:
*chuckles* I use Ubuntu as my default operating system anyway.
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Check out xda-university too, I think that would be a great place to start
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Try stuff besides Ubuntu too, lots of different distros with, I think, better performance. Ex: I use mint 11. I used sabayon for a while too.
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Used Mint for a while. It seems like it might get up there with the popularity of Ubuntu. Although I think that Ubuntu is more visually appealing.
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jtkemp101010 said:
Used Mint for a while. It seems like it might get up there with the popularity of Ubuntu. Although I think that Ubuntu is more visually appealing.
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Yeah I know a lot of people that prefer Mint over Ubuntu....I have yet to try it myself as I'm very pleased with my setup right now...the Faience theme is nice
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Thenewboston.com beginner java video tutorials helped get me through my java class. I find I learn visually very well. There are also android development tutorials on his site. Good luck!
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