Arc S earphone jack configuration - Xperia Arc Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

does anybody know of a software solution like an app or some other hack to make the earphone jack on the Arc S compatible with aftermarket earphones having a inline mic?
background --
The headphone jack on the Arc S is different from those found on motorola, iphone or HTC phones. The four connectors have the same configuration for the left and right audio channel but the connections for mic, ground are interchanged. 99% of the earphones with inline mic available in the market are made to the iphone specs and hence are not compatible with SE arc s. I have these ones and these, but when i plug them into the phone it just says "accessory not supported" .
I had the same problem with my last phone samsung wave which also has the flipped ground/mic connectors. The earphone that came with that phone also work on the arc.
There are cables available that fix this problem -- http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B005I0GHV8 (I have bought this one)
http://www.meelec.com/MEE_TRRS_Adapter_for_P_Version_Headphones_p/adptr-trrs-35.htm
http://www.kvconnection.com/product-p/km-354r2m-r3f.htm
galaxy s users can use an alternative voodoo sound driver to mke the earphones compatible without the need for additional adapter cable.
can something similar be done for Arc S? , (I have bought one of those adapter cables but it sucks to have it dangling from the phone all the time)

base on my experienced, you can try this.
SE supply the wired Handfree kits right? along the kit got
1. stereo jack with mic inline (you should notice the jack has 4 metal/copper connection to be plug in to the phone)
2. in the middle have mic and an answer button + another Stereo jack receiver,
3. after that, then you will have a bit short wire stereo earphone with a stereo jacks but without the mic inline wire (you should notice the jack has only 3 metal/copper connection)
you should connect your wire input device to the stereo jack after the mic, because after the mic only the circuit will only supply sound output voltage (+ left, + right & -ve for both earphone)
...i am sorry for my bad English
goodluck
-ALi

@putrabiru
you seem to have misunderstood the problem
earphones that don't have a mic in them(3 rings on the jack) already work fine if connected directly to the phone.
I am looking for a way to make earphones with inbuilt mic(4 rings on the jack) work with the arc without an additional piece of wire between the phone and the earphone jack.
So i am basically looking for a way to make the phone treat the mic and ground connectors opposite to how they are set up by default. This will definitely require a kind of mod to the system files of android or the drivers. I've even read about other users of samsung phones who opted to physically replace the headphone jack unit on their phones with standard configuration ones!
Sony should have kept the configuration the same as how most earphone manufacturers make them.

Sony actually uses the agreed OMTP standard for mobile headsets. The reason for all these problems is nothing other than the recent popularity of crApple.
Just get a cheap OMTP adapter off ebay. You should be able to find one by searching for something like "Motorola headset adapter" etc.

As Paul stated, Sony Ericsson actually followed the standard, Apple did not. I would suggest to look for an adapter if you want to use "iPhone compatible" headsets.
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Try to plug only the first 3 pin leave out the last it works for me

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Mini USB > 3.5 Jack?

Any adaptors that will allow me to use proper 3.5 inch headphone jack in place of the mini USB ones ( i dont like the in ear phones) checked ebay and couldnt see anything?
you want get one of these http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=142090 - Mike
Ouch, that thing is both horribly badly designed and prohibitively expensive- it's going to stick out what looks like an inch by itself, most headphone plugs will add another inch on top of that- I need something that fits flush with the bottom of the phone (comes out at a right angle) AND supplies an input for the charger. One can only dream!
The orbit would make a great on-mains Wifi internet radio if such a gubbin existed- hook up some speakers, start TCPMP, sorted!
in which case if you don't like wires stop messing around and get a set of A2DP compatible headphones - the quality is very good, but far more costly than a cable addaptor - the choice is yours - Mike
Might have been worth while if I didn't use an iPod for all my portable audio needs- have you seen any A2DP compatible speakers around?
Looks like there are hacks out there, but no official products, the combination really would just turn the Orbit into an incredibly expensive Wifi radio! But where's the fun in just going out and buying a proper one!
Have a look at the products made by Parrot there are a few Bluetooth audio add on boxes, I fail to see the relevance to WiFi?? as the A2DP profile is Bluetooth - it even works on the T-Mobile MDA-CIII which has no WiFi - Mike
I say wifi radio because I listen to internet radio stations around the house using the Orbit, and the ol' tinternet comes via the wifi doohickey!
A2DP is, of course, a bluetooth profile and would be the method over which I get decent sounding audio from the Orbit to some speakers whilst still having the Orbit plugged into mains so the battery doesn't get sucked dry... that said I think the Orbit will last a good few hours streaming internet radio, although I have yet to put that to the test.
My other solution would be, as mentioned above, an adaptor that allows both the charger AND headset to be plugged in- I can't see this as being technically impossible.
With a brief cursory investigation I have discovered, I think, that the headset uses a proprietary 6-pin connection on the opposite side of the mini-usb connector. The headphones do not use the 4-pin standard mini-usb connector on the other side, but a connector that uses both should be reasonably simple to produce. Ergo it should be childs play for a third party to produce an Artemis dock that contains not only a connection to USB but a standard 3.5mm amplified microphone socket alongside a standard 3.5mm amplified stero audio jack... not to mention a button on the front of the dock for picking up calls and a volume slider if you really wanted them.
Call me crazy, but I want one of those!
You could try this
http://www.expansys.com/htc/p_htc_item.aspx?i=145066
Might do the trick even if it is a bit long
Rich
Dear lord! You've made my day! Hmmm, a little jiggery pokery and I might even be able to incorporate that into a dock but it'll be fantastic for charging and listening to net radio at work- takes that little extra load off my desktop PC.
Cheers!
Glad I could help
richiev4 said:
You could try this
http://www.expansys.com/htc/p_htc_item.aspx?i=145066
Might do the trick even if it is a bit long
Rich
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Hi,
Does anyone know if the above would work with a set of mini stereo speakers with a 3.5mm headphone jack (like the walkman speakers i used to have, back in the day...) to listen to the FM radio while charging the phone from mains? Or would you still need the headphones plugged into get any FM reception?
Daft question maybe, but I wondered whether the device would just use the speaker wires as an antenna instead of the headphone wires?
It will work fine, I am going to use mine to connect my orbit to my home stereo and charge it at the same time.
Rich
2.5mm 3 pole jack plug
Hi,
Anybody know of an Artemis mini usb to 2.5mm 3 pole jack plug adapter which allows the connection to deliver audio and microphone capability ?
I would like to connet my Artemis/Orbit to the Autocom intercom system on my motorcycle . This uses a lead with a 2.5mm jack plug at the phone end and a 3.5mm jack at the Autocom system end. Both are 3 pole.
Thanks
P.S. hope you don't mind me jumping in your postings
http://www.expansys.com/s.aspx
try doing a search for "2.5mm"
A very good Items for the Artemis on EbaY :
look :
http://cgi.ebay.fr/FOR-ORANGE-SPV-E...ryZ14419QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
2.5mm 3 pole jack plug adatper
I think I've found exactly what I'm looking for at:
http://igonemobile.com/products/html/61315310.html
I've got one on order and I'll let you know if it works.
cegmawr said:
Hi,
Anybody know of an Artemis mini usb to 2.5mm 3 pole jack plug adapter which allows the connection to deliver audio and microphone capability ?
I would like to connet my Artemis/Orbit to the Autocom intercom system on my motorcycle . This uses a lead with a 2.5mm jack plug at the phone end and a 3.5mm jack at the Autocom system end. Both are 3 pole.
Thanks
P.S. hope you don't mind me jumping in your postings
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Is this so you can listen to music from the Orbit? I've had difficulty on my bike with this...music cuts out and wont restart after phone call is over. In the end, I bought the Autocom bluetooth dongle and now bluetooth the Orbit to the bike. I get phone calls and GPS just fine, but I use a wired iPod for music.
cegmawr said:
I think I've found exactly what I'm looking for at:
http://igonemobile.com/products/html/61315310.html
I've got one on order and I'll let you know if it works.
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Does this support the Artemis? It isn't in the list....
There was a posting for the mini USB PinOut some Time ago. Look in the wiki Section to find it. Here is what they showed up with.
Maybe This will Help someone to build their own Adapter or whatsoever.
Greetings
Jabami
so what was the general concensus with using Autocom? Did the 2.5mm jack work?
I want to avoid using the bluetooth option on autocom, since I might just as well go for a Scala bluetooth headset instead if the jack doesnt work...

HTCext to 3.5mm audio adapter mic problem

Hi!
I have this for some time: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938811&pf_rd_i=507846
(Actually, I baught it in a store so I'm not sure it's excatly the same but it looks the same)
Recently, I baught this one:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Headphone-HTC-VIVA-exclusive-Duragadget/dp/B001LIM8F0/ref=pd_rhf_p_t_2
When I plug the old one in my HTC Touch Cruise and then stereo headphones, to it's 3.5mm jack (without microphone), I can use phone's mic and plugged headphones to talk.
When I do the same with new one I can't use phone's mic. I can hear the other side through headphones but I can't be heard.
What might be a reason for this?
And can I fix this problem somehow so I don't have to unplug headphones each time I want to talk if I'm listening to the music?
Thank you very much in advance!
P.S. FM Radio works with both adapters.
there is no std for 3.5mm mini-jack with mic included
the org spc is only audio out
some headset makers add another ring which don't interfere with the
left, right and ground connectors
but there is no std they can follow
thumb rule is if mic is not mentioned in relation with the 3.5mm adaptor
mic is not supported as they use the pure audio out mini-jack std
thumb rule 2 is if mic is mentioned but it's not the same manufactures
in both end they may not implement mic in 3.5mm the same way and it will
only work with audio out
Thank you for your quick answer but I'm not sure you understood me.
I do not use external mic.
In first case I use 3in1 adapter and my stereo headphone with 3.5mm connector without microphone.
In second case I use this simple in-line adapter and same headphones.
In first case, during call, I can hear the other side through headphones, and the other side hears me through built-in-phone microphone.
In second case, during call, I can hear the other side through headphones, but other side can't hear me.
In both cases FM radio works well. I mention this because I saw that mic and FM antenna are on the same pin in USBext (if that's important since I don't use external mic)
about fm then all it needs is an antenna connected to to it
any stereo maybe even mono connected with a wire will do
heck you can cut off the airplugs from a cable and use it for fm
normaly when one connects a headset speaker and mic on the device itself
are muted
even if it's a headset without mic so cool that your fist case works at all
This first one adapter is original HTC. It has 2.5mm, 3.5mm, USBext for data and charging and USBext for headset connectors. And unfortunately it is too big for any other use except in car (to connect to car's audio aux input) or at home (to connect to home AV reciever).
So I baught this cheap simple in-line adapter. And it is suprisingly well built. And it works great as stereo adapter. Only problem is that it turns of microphone.
Anyhow I did some additional testing.
I tried SE Xperia X1 since it has built in 3.5mm connector. and it works like this first one. That means microphone works.
I also tried plugging this first adapter into my touch cruise and then plugging this second adapter into it's USBext for headset. The result is the same as if I plug second adapter directly into touch cruise. Microphone doesn't work.
Interesting thing is that in all cases (including Xperia) when I listen to the music with external headphones soudn comes only out of them. But when phone starts ringing sound comes from both headphones and from built-in-phone external speaker.
!!! Maybe the most important thing is that microphone doesn't work even if only second adapter is plugged into the phone, without headphones plugged in it.
Obviously this second non-HTC adapter doesn't work as HTC originally planned that kind of adapter to work and now I need a way to fix this.
It seems to me that this adapter is maybe stereo adapter with mic, but I don't have that kind of headset to try it. And if I had it I'm not sure it would be the right one since there's no standard for them.
As I see it when I plug in adapter phone somehow detects it and changes some registry key which mutes microphone.
Does anybody know what to change in registry so that phone doesn't mute microphone?
Or how can I see what changes in registry when I plug in the adapter?
Do you think if I manage to fix this, will that affect bluetooth headset also?
Thank you very much for any help!

3.5mm items that work with android

As you know, the configuration on 3.5mm plugs for i-products (iPhone/iPod/etc.) is different from standard 3.5mm plugs. Hence headsets for iPhone often do not work on other things, and it's why products like this exist:
http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile...ive-android-iphone-headset-adapters-20110328/
It's very frustrating. I tried buying the following three items from ebay:
1. A very short 3.5mm headset extension cable or a right angle adapter:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/220820474616
2. Headset to PC audio:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/270787425821
3. PC audio to headset:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/280712788439
They are ALL iPhone types... they work perfectly with an iPhone and its (default) headset. But not with my HTC android phone and its default htc headset
I'm hoping some people here may have bought similar products for their phones... so can you tell me where to buy from?
Regarding item #1... what I want is a single product that can go between my headset and my phone. I have a problem with the way I keep my phone in my pocket, it keeps bending the headset plug, damaging it. So I just want an adapter/extension cable between the headset and the phone, so the headset itself doesn't get damaged.
But it's so hard to find a 3.5mm extension cord or adapter that works with headsets (i.e. not headphones), AND is not an iPhone type >.<

[Q] Micromax doesn't support headphones with mic and/or remote

A110q, Have tried many headphones like Nokia CoLoud Pop, digi flip, etc. The catch is that, you will have to press the button on the headphone to get proper sound.
Any headphone without mic and/or remote works fine but one thing that I have noticed that the in box headphone has mic and button and it works fine, just that it sucks.
Micromax is well known through out the country so I believe I am not the only one with this issue?
So is there any fix for it?
currently using 4.2.1
Never heard of Micromax before, it's probably popular outside of US?
But either way, some older phones use TRS jack (tip-ring-sleeve), while headphones with in-line remote/mic have TRRS connector (tip-ring-ring-sleeve) - they have an extra contact ring on the connector for in-line remote signal. Your phone has that TRS type of jack which doesn't work with TRRS style headphones. You need to buy TRRS to TRS 3.5mm adapter to solve your problem

[Q] Can you buy this somewhere? [Android mic+control w/ jack 3,5 socket]

Hello everyone,
my question from you helpful people would be the following:
I used to have a Sony Ericsson walkman phone back in the old days. It has a headset that consists of two parts:
--one cable that connects the phone with the microphone/controller/standard 3,5mm jack socket
--a quality earplug with standard 3,5 jack plug, can be connected to the socket of the mic.
I am particularly interested in the mic+controls+socket item, do you have information about anything like this for android? Preferably with 3 buttons. This way I could use any earphone with it - I have some old quality ones, among them the Sony Ericsson one.
Thanks for your help,
Itarill
I will be reviewing this one soon: http://penonaudio.com/DONSCORPIO-DP-H1 - you can connect any headphone to it to turn into wireless headset.
itarill said:
Hello everyone,
my question from you helpful people would be the following:
I used to have a Sony Ericsson walkman phone back in the old days. It has a headset that consists of two parts:
--one cable that connects the phone with the microphone/controller/standard 3,5mm jack socket
--a quality earplug with standard 3,5 jack plug, can be connected to the socket of the mic.
I am particularly interested in the mic+controls+socket item, do you have information about anything like this for android? Preferably with 3 buttons. This way I could use any earphone with it - I have some old quality ones, among them the Sony Ericsson one.
Thanks for your help,
Itarill
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Thanks! I will stay tuned for your review, this is definitely something similar to what I was thinking about, so it is a good start.
However, I would be quite interested in simpler solutions - no fuss, just cable, controller and mic.

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