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Thoughts? Regrets? I'm on the fence, and I can't find any threads anywhere with someone is talking about making the switch.
I would love to see an XDA user that went from SGS2-SGN post thoughts and regrets. Woulda thought it would have happend already, am I missing it??
I am one such person. No regrets man. ICS is light years ahead. Nexus screen is not as bright as that of GS2 but more than makes up thanks to high Res and sheer size. I absolutely hated the visual treatment of TouchWiz though I loved the functionality. Here with Nexus I have my cake and can eat it too.
Everything is better and refined. USB connectivity is such that I can use my phone and at the same time manage memory on PC. HDMI out works brilliantly. Love the blue highlights on wifi and network notifications telling when they are active and not merely connected.
Do I miss something about GS2? Of course. The camera. The Facebook integration. The expandable memory. Not much else. I think Samsung were allowed to cut a corner in hardware specs but even then the trade off is OK. A white GS2 looks miles better though.
So no regrets, God has been kind to me so far!
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I'm using the 2 devices, mainly GN. SGS2 for me is slightly faster especially when there is a heavy usage with multitasking .. but i love my GN and planning to keep using it till they announce the next nexus next year
I owned a sgs2 for 6 months and sold it the day after i got my Nexus and don't regret it at all.
Nexus is the best phone i ever had!!
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went from SG2 to SG2 Skyrocket to Galaxy Nexus.
Havent looked back.
I also made the jump.
As for regrets? i wouldn't say i regret making the change, but the improvement wasn't as drastic as I envisioned.
My GS2 had CheckROM v4
My Galaxy Nexus is bone stock, unrooted.
Here are some of the features i miss from my SGS2:
1) Overall, GS2 was smoother. I get slight jitters when scrolling fast on the SGN. Also, running a non-hardware accelerated live wallpaper results in choppiness when swiping between home screens.
2) I miss the camera on my GS2. Although SGN is faster at taking photos, I can tell quality is sacrificed.
3) I miss certain features of TouchWiz from GS2.
a) The Dialer. Why AOSP ICS doesn't have a "smart dialer" is beyond me. (i.e. spell out names with the dial pad). I know there are market apps i can download, but i'm irked that I have to rely on 3rd party apps for such a basic feature.b) The music player. TW Music player allowed me to play by folder. I'm aware that if I properly tagged my music I wouldn't require such a feature, but I couldn't be bothered with ID3 tagging. In my mind, it's just simpler to drop-in a folder and play it. In Canada, we also don't get the cloud syncing feature, so the stock ICS music player is virtually useless to me. Again, I have to rely on 3rd party apps.c) I miss having the ability to create folders in the app tray. on ICS, i can create folders on the homescreen, but not in the app tray.d) I miss the ability to add/remove homescreens. on ICS, we are stuck with 5, with no ability to add more or remove homescreens.
4) LED notification light - I didn't noticed how much I'd miss having a notification light until I got the SGS2, so the addition of the notification LED on the SGN is nice, but it's flaky. Sometimes it blinks, sometimes it just stays lit, somtimes its white and sometimes its green. If the colours are supposed to mean anything, I haven't figured it out yet.
5) GS2 is lighter and thinner, but SGN is easier to hold
6) Screen - GS2 screen is lower res, but its brighter and colours are "deeper". With the higher res screen, it's still displaying the same amount of content, just smaller and finer. It's not like changing the desktop PC's resolution where you suddenly get more screen "real estate". I still get the same 4x4 home screen grid and same 4x5 app tray, but everything is just "smaller" and "finer". I'm assuming this is due to Android's ability to "scale" for different screen resolutions. Also, the SGN's auto-brightness really needs to be improved - It's way too dim.
7) The biggest thing I miss is the battery life of my SGS2. My SGN is barely able to squeeze out 12hrs before it shuts itself off. My GS2 was able to squeeze out 16+ hours with battery life to spare before I plugged it in at night. With that said, I remember when i first got my GS2, my battery life was poor as well. So as the SGN and ICS matures, I'm hoping I'll see better battery life, just like the SGS2.
If I had a choice to switch my SGS2 for SGN again, I would, simply because having a Nexus phone means unlimited possibilities and a guaranteed 1.5 year support cycle from Google. If you noticed, most of those drawbacks I pointed are software related, and not hardware. Software can be worked around or fixed, and ICS is still new. There will be many ICS updates to come...and after every update, ICS will get better and better.
In terms of hardware, I rate the SGS2 and SGN even. They both have their pros and cons, but in the end, they are pretty damn close.
I was using the TMO SGS2 Hercules, which is similar to the ATT SGS2 Skyrocket, for about 3 weeks prior to the GNex.
The SGS2, after rooting and removing the TMO bloatware and essentially keeping the same ROM, seemed a bit snappier than the GNex and has better contrast + brightness. The GNex is unlocked and a pure Google experience and I don't plan on rooting it. I like getting the updates directly from Google. Had the SGS2 been running ICS 4.0, I would have had to think twice before spending $700+ for the GNex. Where the only real advantage would have been the resolution on the GNex. Both are great h/w platforms. My wife and daughter are using the SGS2 and are happy with it.
There is some good solid info here guys, thanks. I'm still on the fence lol. Switching from the GS1 to the GS2 was a no brainer. But this is really close. I'm thinking that I would be happy either way. So basically do I want to experience ICS now or later. I also paid $750 for my SG2 (from handtec) so I'm sure I would lose a bundle selling it now. The plan was to buy and sell an iPhone 5 on release day to help pay for the SG2, but that never happened. (thanks Apple)
Anyway, good stuff, thanks guys.
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b) The music player. TW Music player allowed me to play by folder. I'm aware that if I properly tagged my music I wouldn't require such a feature, but I couldn't be bothered with ID3 tagging. In my mind, it's just simpler to drop-in a folder and play it. In Canada, we also don't get the cloud syncing feature, so the stock ICS music player is virtually useless to me. Again, I have to rely on 3rd party apps..
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i have a solutuin for it.
go google a tutorial on using google music outside of US.
im using it in the netherlands now. have almost 2000 music files synced/uploaded,and streaming them to my phone now,turgh 3G.
havent had the SG2 my self.
but did held it in my hand and know TW.
so i dont think allot of people that buy a Gn for the nexus purpose wil ever regret.
as for 4) get light flow. its your answer to it.
and about 7)
remember that you have a custom rom? on your SG2.how do you think the GN will preform with a low bat usage rom?
Looks like most of the gripes are TW related, and I'm an ADW junky, so no problem there...
I've also been a super longtime user of NoLed, but it would be nice to save battery and just use the built in led if it works...
For those selling off your GS2's, where are you selling them and how much are you getting? (roughly)
Ok, stupid question. Watching MobileTechReview's video on the phone, while she is on the home screen, there is only back, home, and multi-task buttons. How do you get to the settings from the home screen with no menu button?
It's at the top of the status bar when you drag it down. (3 little sliders icon)
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Ok, stupid question. Watching MobileTechReview's video on the phone, while she is on the home screen, there is only back, home, and multi-task buttons. How do you get to the settings from the home screen with no menu button?
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You can use a custom rom that integrates an extra settings menu at the bottom at all times. Or there is a settings shortcut built into the notification drop down. Its not right off the home screen but its just as easy IMO
i'll agree with everything except the #6 "low res" part
800x480 was defacto HD (high res) on all devices until the new 1024x720 came out with the GN
older devices with 3.5" screen were running low res
All the games in Android Market or Gameloft you see marked HD are for 800x480
on the SGS2 if you run those non HD games, you will see really blurry crappy pictures because they were made for low res older generation devices
I don't know what the game makers are going to start calling the new games made for 720, but it will definitely need to be something other than HD to no confuse the whits out of our noggins
probably BD (blueray resolution) or SHD (super HD), because HD is staying as is for the DVD resolution (800x480)
Eclypz said:
I also made the jump.
As for regrets? i wouldn't say i regret making the change, but the improvement wasn't as drastic as I envisioned.
My GS2 had CheckROM v4
My Galaxy Nexus is bone stock, unrooted.
Here are some of the features i miss from my SGS2:
1) Overall, GS2 was smoother. I get slight jitters when scrolling fast on the SGN. Also, running a non-hardware accelerated live wallpaper results in choppiness when swiping between home screens.
2) I miss the camera on my GS2. Although SGN is faster at taking photos, I can tell quality is sacrificed.
3) I miss certain features of TouchWiz from GS2.
a) The Dialer. Why AOSP ICS doesn't have a "smart dialer" is beyond me. (i.e. spell out names with the dial pad). I know there are market apps i can download, but i'm irked that I have to rely on 3rd party apps for such a basic feature.b) The music player. TW Music player allowed me to play by folder. I'm aware that if I properly tagged my music I wouldn't require such a feature, but I couldn't be bothered with ID3 tagging. In my mind, it's just simpler to drop-in a folder and play it. In Canada, we also don't get the cloud syncing feature, so the stock ICS music player is virtually useless to me. Again, I have to rely on 3rd party apps.c) I miss having the ability to create folders in the app tray. on ICS, i can create folders on the homescreen, but not in the app tray.d) I miss the ability to add/remove homescreens. on ICS, we are stuck with 5, with no ability to add more or remove homescreens.
4) LED notification light - I didn't noticed how much I'd miss having a notification light until I got the SGS2, so the addition of the notification LED on the SGN is nice, but it's flaky. Sometimes it blinks, sometimes it just stays lit, somtimes its white and sometimes its green. If the colours are supposed to mean anything, I haven't figured it out yet.
5) GS2 is lighter and thinner, but SGN is easier to hold
6) Screen - GS2 screen is lower res, but its brighter and colours are "deeper". With the higher res screen, it's still displaying the same amount of content, just smaller and finer. It's not like changing the desktop PC's resolution where you suddenly get more screen "real estate". I still get the same 4x4 home screen grid and same 4x5 app tray, but everything is just "smaller" and "finer". I'm assuming this is due to Android's ability to "scale" for different screen resolutions. Also, the SGN's auto-brightness really needs to be improved - It's way too dim.
7) The biggest thing I miss is the battery life of my SGS2. My SGN is barely able to squeeze out 12hrs before it shuts itself off. My GS2 was able to squeeze out 16+ hours with battery life to spare before I plugged it in at night. With that said, I remember when i first got my GS2, my battery life was poor as well. So as the SGN and ICS matures, I'm hoping I'll see better battery life, just like the SGS2.
If I had a choice to switch my SGS2 for SGN again, I would, simply because having a Nexus phone means unlimited possibilities and a guaranteed 1.5 year support cycle from Google. If you noticed, most of those drawbacks I pointed are software related, and not hardware. Software can be worked around or fixed, and ICS is still new. There will be many ICS updates to come...and after every update, ICS will get better and better.
In terms of hardware, I rate the SGS2 and SGN even. They both have their pros and cons, but in the end, they are pretty damn close.
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AllGamer said:
i'll agree with everything except the #6 "low res" part
the new 1024x720 came out with the GN
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The GN is 720p, which is 1280x720.
Kidding aside, you bring a good point.
SGS2 vs SGN
I am still on the fence! I have both right now and the one issue I can point out is the form factor. Why they curved the SGN is beyond me, it adds ALOT to the bottom of the phone. Almost makes it seem huge. SGN might be going back! I think you need to spend some time with it before dropping 7 beans. SGS2 will hopefully be getting a leaked ICS soon. Keep that in mind as well.
LarryLars said:
I am still on the fence! I have both right now and the one issue I can point out is the form factor. Why they curved the SGN is beyond me, it adds ALOT to the bottom of the phone. Almost makes it seem huge. SGN might be going back! I think you need to spend some time with it before dropping 7 beans. SGS2 will hopefully be getting a leaked ICS soon. Keep that in mind as well.
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Welcome to the worst battery phone. But I need the ICS. This is my only reason to sell my gs ii.
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I had the EU SGS2 and the ATT SGS2. The nexus is amazing the only thing that would make the nexus perfect (for me) is if i were able to get the samsung stock keyboard or the motorola stock keyboard. the ICS one just isnt doing it for me.
edit: if anyone knows how to get these keyboards into a nexus please let me know it would greatly appreciated
Jesseownzzz said:
I had the EU SGS2 and the ATT SGS2. The nexus is amazing the only thing that would make the nexus perfect (for me) is if i were able to get the samsung stock keyboard or the motorola stock keyboard. the ICS one just isnt doing it for me.
edit: if anyone knows how to get these keyboards into a nexus please let me know it would greatly appreciated
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Have you tried anything from the market? I'm a big fan of SwiftKey X myself...
I'm leaning more towards getting the GN... not excited about giving up my $10 unlimited data plan.. but its inevitable anyway. My GF and I both have SGS2's with that plan.
BoostedSR20 said:
Have you tried anything from the market? I'm a big fan of SwiftKey X myself...
I'm leaning more towards getting the GN... not excited about giving up my $10 unlimited data plan.. but its inevitable anyway. My GF and I both have SGS2's with that plan.
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I'm not really a fan of the market keyboards. I dislike most android keyboard (except froyo,Samsung, and Motorola).
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Im standing in a delimma rught now. Im about to choose between galaxy nexus and iphone 4s.
I dont want to hear which phone is better i want to hear about the galaxy nexus, how it feels in your hand, smoothnes etc etc.
This is not another which phone is better thread.
Thabk you
Best regards
Elinho
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GSM? The phone feels great in the hand because it is light for how big it is. It is kind of slick and will take getting used to if you have never had a phone this big but it shouldn't be too much of a problem.. the screen is good for most people when above 20% brightness. Some people lag on the stock rom but most don't have any problems on custom roms or the latest stock rom. Also battery life for the most part is great.
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Size wise I feel the Nexus is small, and no way too big at all. But I had the Epic 4G Touch with 4.5" screen, the Nexus feels smaller.
Build quality is very high, the metal band around it feels solid, and the dark gray color makes it look like a stealth fighter jet. Does not feel like cheap plastic on the Galaxy SII.
High Res screen is on par with "Retina" but with a million times better color.
ICS software is a huge leap forward for Android, makes it more mature and polished and better design over last year Androids.
iPhone LOL 3.5" screen
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I have been an iphone user for years and after spending some time using the Nexus I sold my iphone 4s to buy the Nexus. You will not be unhappy with either but the Nexus is hands down a more up to date and distinguished device for me.
Play with them both and see which appeals more to you. I was an iPhone user for 4 years until I got my Galaxy Nexus and I couldn't go back. That said, the 4S is still a very good phone and definitely has a place. It gets better battery life and has a nicer app selection, but the screen is small, you're much more limited in terms of modification/customization/app and service integration, and I feel like iOS is starting to show it's age.
I love the Nexus' huge screen, I think the design of the phone itself is nicer, and I like ICS way more than iOS.
Zorachus said:
Size wise I feel the Nexus is small, and no way too big at all. But I had the Epic 4G Touch with 4.5" screen, the Nexus feels smaller.
Build quality is very high, the metal band around it feels solid, and the dark gray color makes it look like a stealth fighter jet. Does not feel like cheap plastic on the Galaxy SII.
High Res screen is on par with "Retina" but with a million times better color.
ICS software is a huge leap forward for Android, makes it more mature and polished and better design over last year Androids.
iPhone LOL 3.5" screen
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There is no metal band..... that said it still feels like a good quality phone.
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Ex-wife has iPhone 4S and I, the GNexus. No comparison. I feel bad for the ex, with that 3.5" LOL display, and no me. ;-)
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Thank you for the replys!
The galaxy nexus here in sweden is expensive. But im considering getting galaxy
Edit: i forgott, the ics dont have autocorrect for swedish lang :/
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Without a case, it's great in the hands. Even with a case it's fine depending on which one though.
But holding it raw is wonderful. The screen is absolutely amazing. Text is so crisp I almost sometimes prefer using it over my tablet! The keyboard is amazing in portrait, because of the size I can type REALLY fast and get almost no errors.
Everything is smooth too. My friend who has had an Evo 4g for a while was amazed at how smooth animations and everything else are compared to his phone.
I have unlimited 4g from Verizon and it is blazing too.
elinho said:
Im standing in a delimma rught now. Im about to choose between galaxy nexus and iphone 4s.
I dont want to hear which phone is better i want to hear about the galaxy nexus, how it feels in your hand, smoothnes etc etc.
This is not another which phone is better thread.
Thabk you
Best regards
Elinho
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have used both. I keep changing my phones regularly. Generally every 3 months. I always have 2 phones regardless.
Now...
Sometimes as my Prof kept saying,
it all comes down to what you are used to the most.
If you are a busy man and just want to get things done and you are used to the iOS platform then go for the iPhone 4s, it really surprises me how consistent they have kept their platform from over 5 years.
But there is a price you pay. For ex when you compare the maps and email/Gmail apps; the iOS apps feel archaic.
Ics is a complete overhaul. There is a significant amount of learning curve. Not much if you are coming from iOS. But to be on the record, it is completely rewarding no matter what platform you come from (keep in mind it takes about a week)
One of the gripes that I have with iOS is that it is not Rewarding to the power user. The speed at which you do things the first time is pretty much as fast as yo can ever be.
Let me address a few issues with galaxy nexus
Size:
Mammoth like if you are coming from iOS
Little big if you are coming from the almost standard 4 inch androids.
But the feel in hand is really good. It is lighter than the iPhone 4s. After a week you wont notice the size but will really appreciate the 720p screen, the real estate that it gives you. I can't go back to the iPhone like screen size after using galaxy nexus, it is like what the first iPhone did to the typical smartphone users back then (who were mainly on windows mobile and palm/blackberry on their 2.4-2.8 inch devices)
Smoothness:
I'm on AOKP rom with Francisco Franco s Kernel and it is the smoothest Android experience.
IOS introduces a lot of delays to keep the os feeling smooth. Just try opening an app as soon as you hit the home button.
And it still lags everytime when you go to the spotlight search by swiping left on the homescreen.
Right now they have just 3 hardware platforms and then can test the heck out of it for delivering 60fps (also known as butter smooth performance) albeit making actual performance sacrifices (though I've heard from internal sources that it is becoming increasingly difficult to do so on 3gs)
The point I'm trying to make is that iOS has engineered smoothness at the cost of performance, you will have to decide for yourself if this is OK with you.
IOS vs ICS
I feel that ics and Android in general gives app developers a lot more freedom and versatility in app design (clearly demonstrated by the mlo app which is still in beta on Android but much better than the iOS app).
But app developers go by the penetration and clearly iOS has more than android (again demonstrated by the Mlo app which is still in beta on Android)
And as far as the stock apps are concerned there is no match for ics, just check the iPhone vs galaxy nexus sunspider and browesermark benchmarks on the browser which probably is the top most used app on the smartphone os (tip don't compare the iPad 2 with galaxy nexus as iPad 2 is clocked at 25% more than iPhone 4s, and there are quad core options available in android ics tablets (friend just got pics pushed to his transformer prime ))
And the Gmail app.(
ICS has a lot of potential If you are not porting over your apps from iOS , a lesson for you speed test.net)
Now to conclude I've not gone back to iPhone 4(couldn't stand iPhone 4s as it didn't have a jailbreak and hence my favourite jailbreak app swipenav which avoids the most inhumanly possible HCI design of tapping the left most corner to go back (which is probably the second most used function from going to home screen )
Pradeep.
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trincisor said:
have used both. I keep changing my phones regularly. Generally every 3 months. I always have 2 phones regardless.
Now...
Sometimes as my Prof kept saying,
it all comes down to what you are used to the most.
If you are a busy man and just want to get things done and you are used to the iOS platform then go for the iPhone 4s, it really surprises me how consistent they have kept their platform from over 5 years.
But there is a price you pay. For ex when you compare the maps and email/Gmail apps; the iOS apps feel archaic.
Ics is a complete overhaul. There is a significant amount of learning curve. Not much if you are coming from iOS. But to be on the record, it is completely rewarding no matter what platform you come from (keep in mind it takes about a week)
One of the gripes that I have with iOS is that it is not Rewarding to the power user. The speed at which you do things the first time is pretty much as fast as yo can ever be.
Let me address a few issues with galaxy nexus
Size:
Mammoth like if you are coming from iOS
Little big if you are coming from the almost standard 4 inch androids.
But the feel in hand is really good. It is lighter than the iPhone 4s. After a week you wont notice the size but will really appreciate the 720p screen, the real estate that it gives you. I can't go back to the iPhone like screen size after using galaxy nexus, it is like what the first iPhone did to the typical smartphone users back then (who were mainly on windows mobile and palm/blackberry on their 2.4-2.8 inch devices)
Smoothness:
I'm on AOKP rom with Francisco Franco s Kernel and it is the smoothest Android experience.
IOS introduces a lot of delays to keep the os feeling smooth. Just try opening an app as soon as you hit the home button.
And it still lags everytime when you go to the spotlight search by swiping left on the homescreen.
Right now they have just 3 hardware platforms and then can test the heck out of it for delivering 60fps (also known as butter smooth performance) albeit making actual performance sacrifices (though I've heard from internal sources that it is becoming increasingly difficult to do so on 3gs)
The point I'm trying to make is that iOS has engineered smoothness at the cost of performance, you will have to decide for yourself if this is OK with you.
IOS vs ICS
I feel that ics and Android in general gives app developers a lot more freedom and versatility in app design (clearly demonstrated by the mlo app which is still in beta on Android but much better than the iOS app).
But app developers go by the penetration and clearly iOS has more than android (again demonstrated by the Mlo app which is still in beta on Android)
And as far as the stock apps are concerned there is no match for ics, just check the iPhone vs galaxy nexus sunspider and browesermark benchmarks on the browser which probably is the top most used app on the smartphone os (tip don't compare the iPad 2 with galaxy nexus as iPad 2 is clocked at 25% more than iPhone 4s, and there are quad core options available in android ics tablets (friend just got pics pushed to his transformer prime ))
And the Gmail app.(
ICS has a lot of potential If you are not porting over your apps from iOS , a lesson for you speed test.net)
Now to conclude I've not gone back to iPhone 4(couldn't stand iPhone 4s as it didn't have a jailbreak and hence my favourite jailbreak app swipenav which avoids the most inhumanly possible HCI design of tapping the left most corner to go back (which is probably the second most used function from going to home screen )
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Thank you for your time and effort!
Im considering buying galaxy nexus due the screen, but i like the siri function in iphone and their smoothnes in the games due.
But overall the Gnex is above all much better then iphone.
But as i said erlier the gnex is much more expensive here in sweden :/
Siri is a worthless bum.
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I'l give you an honest overview : the phone is SINCERELY NOT THERE to compete as a completely functional device to be honest.
And let me also tell you that I'm an Android fan boy, and I completely ABHOR apple and everything to do with them.
BUT YET. Samsung Galaxy Nexus is NOT EVEN a complete functional device yet, and paying 530 £ or so (in the UK) for such a phone - IS WASTE OF MONEY.
There are MANY glitches that makes the whole experience very unsavoury. To the point that it definitely DOES NOT LOOK LIKE A FINISHED phone to me at all.
All the gloss of ICS apart, I have seen stability issues with this phone that just totally kills every thing. And mind you this is only on 4.0.1 GSM version UK (I've others here who have the same issue)
I'm a pretty heavy user. I've had a HTC Desire and worked out the ins and outs of the system and that device was EXTREMELY usable over the years.
This phone has so many problems -
1. The LED light does not even support missed calls by default. If you had a missed call you would not know till you turn the screen on (It is a basic feature was available 2 years back on HTC desire) I dont want to install a complicated APP like Light Flow to do it. This is basic stuff that should come out of the box
2. The phone in landscape mode does not type properly, this is just hilarious. Shame on google. The typing works perfect when you keep your phone straight, but the same phone, same stuff if you type in landscape it is incredibly jittery, you dont see what you wrote for good couple of seconds! This is just SHODDY work. how can screen orientation screw up your typing so badly - i have no idea. Just shameful from google.
3. The SMS dont go many times, and I've seen many threads about the same. Apparently you can screw up the message center settings? I dont know how but I'vent done that still had SMS problems a few times. And I had to restart my phone or send multiple times to make it work.
4. The call quality is the WORST I have seen on ANY phone in my entire life. I've been using the phone in exactly the same locations as I was using my HTC desire, and the call drops so much more often that it is just unbelievable! and needless to say incredibly frustrating. If the call doesnt drop the sound, sometimes (& often), is really pathetic and many a times it is inaudible to either party on the call. Is this a phone?
5. The phone is crashing randomly, this happens every 2 days or so (lately every single day now) and I'm a pretty heavy user. People say it is because I'm still on 4.0.1 - well I dont buy that because if 4.0.3 (the latest version) was fixing so many stability issues, then there is NO reason for Google to delay the release of that version on here in the UK for such a long time. Then some people say it is because I've some app installed, well I uninstalled most of my apps - but this problem doesnt go. And the phone becoming unresponsive due to an APP sounds like a serious piece of cr*pware to me. My settings page becomes unresponsive!! How can that happen? It has NEVER happened on android 2.3.7 with my HTC desire. If an APP is buggy, your home and menu screen buttons work perfectly! your android system doesnt become unstable because a stupid APP is incompatible or buggy! but here the WHOLE PHONE BECOMES UNUSABLE!!
And there's more! The latest of the glitches, yesterday - after the usual while typing the phone crashed, and then on reboot - all widgets on my screen - were all scrambled. No widget was displaying any text but jumbled ASCII characters, when you move the widgets the text would show but not without. I rebooted and it has been okay since.
but how horrible is that to put in so much of your money to get a piece of sht phone that doesnt even work and does basic functions correctly?
6. The phone also starts lagging, and is jerky ... especially with live wallpaper. That was really frustrating to see if you bought the phone to be on the cutting edge of mobile technology!! Samsung galaxy s2 scores much higher even on CPU benchmark tests I downloaded. Galaxy nexus fails to score any more than 1700 on the tests while Galaxy S2 (almost the same hardware) notches up to 3200+ scores!!! and these are basic tests that check cpu performance and your animation rendering capabilities. You cant mess with that really.
Now this could really be because of the high resolution of the screen... which brings me to the only two GOOD points of this phone :
1. Really crisp resolution. It is really just a class apart from older generation phones. Your icons, text, everything looks extremely good!
2. ICS - as everyone already mentioned it is a huge step up in terms of usability, and looks great deal polished. The phone feels good to navigate through, and ICS brings in some other features that make it a good OS. Others can cover on that more.
But anyway, I find those two points as largely ineffective in my choice to buy a phone (but i have unfortunately bought it and got rid of my desire and have been regretting the decision......it has been about 21 days on the galaxy nexus now)
Honestly, STAY AWAY FROM GALAXY NEXUS. The device is not worth it, and ICS evolution (especially bug fixes) and the hardware upgrades later this year would make for a really good and a competitive phone that you can buy!
cheers
Dhruv
Dhruv,
Try Romain's AOKP rom
See if that fixes most of your problems
About performance I think you are comparing quadrant scores. Quadrant is not a good benchmark
Try individual performance like
multi threaded linpack
Mflops scores
Sunspider
Browsermark
Ics has been vastly optimized for performance.
Pradeep.
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dhruvraj said:
I'l give you an honest overview : the phone is SINCERELY NOT THERE to compete as a completely functional device to be honest.
And let me also tell you that I'm an Android fan boy, and I completely ABHOR apple and everything to do with them.
BUT YET. Samsung Galaxy Nexus is NOT EVEN a complete functional device yet, and paying 530 £ or so (in the UK) for such a phone - IS WASTE OF MONEY.
There are MANY glitches that makes the whole experience very unsavoury. To the point that it definitely DOES NOT LOOK LIKE A FINISHED phone to me at all.
All the gloss of ICS apart, I have seen stability issues with this phone that just totally kills every thing. And mind you this is only on 4.0.1 GSM version UK (I've others here who have the same issue)
I'm a pretty heavy user. I've had a HTC Desire and worked out the ins and outs of the system and that device was EXTREMELY usable over the years.
This phone has so many problems -
1. The LED light does not even support missed calls by default. If you had a missed call you would not know till you turn the screen on (It is a basic feature was available 2 years back on HTC desire) I dont want to install a complicated APP like Light Flow to do it. This is basic stuff that should come out of the box
2. The phone in landscape mode does not type properly, this is just hilarious. Shame on google. The typing works perfect when you keep your phone straight, but the same phone, same stuff if you type in landscape it is incredibly jittery, you dont see what you wrote for good couple of seconds! This is just SHODDY work. how can screen orientation screw up your typing so badly - i have no idea. Just shameful from google.
3. The SMS dont go many times, and I've seen many threads about the same. Apparently you can screw up the message center settings? I dont know how but I'vent done that still had SMS problems a few times. And I had to restart my phone or send multiple times to make it work.
4. The call quality is the WORST I have seen on ANY phone in my entire life. I've been using the phone in exactly the same locations as I was using my HTC desire, and the call drops so much more often that it is just unbelievable! and needless to say incredibly frustrating. If the call doesnt drop the sound, sometimes (& often), is really pathetic and many a times it is inaudible to either party on the call. Is this a phone?
5. The phone is crashing randomly, this happens every 2 days or so (lately every single day now) and I'm a pretty heavy user. People say it is because I'm still on 4.0.1 - well I dont buy that because if 4.0.3 (the latest version) was fixing so many stability issues, then there is NO reason for Google to delay the release of that version on here in the UK for such a long time. Then some people say it is because I've some app installed, well I uninstalled most of my apps - but this problem doesnt go. And the phone becoming unresponsive due to an APP sounds like a serious piece of cr*pware to me. My settings page becomes unresponsive!! How can that happen? It has NEVER happened on android 2.3.7 with my HTC desire. If an APP is buggy, your home and menu screen buttons work perfectly! your android system doesnt become unstable because a stupid APP is incompatible or buggy! but here the WHOLE PHONE BECOMES UNUSABLE!!
And there's more! The latest of the glitches, yesterday - after the usual while typing the phone crashed, and then on reboot - all widgets on my screen - were all scrambled. No widget was displaying any text but jumbled ASCII characters, when you move the widgets the text would show but not without. I rebooted and it has been okay since.
but how horrible is that to put in so much of your money to get a piece of sht phone that doesnt even work and does basic functions correctly?
6. The phone also starts lagging, and is jerky ... especially with live wallpaper. That was really frustrating to see if you bought the phone to be on the cutting edge of mobile technology!! Samsung galaxy s2 scores much higher even on CPU benchmark tests I downloaded. Galaxy nexus fails to score any more than 1700 on the tests while Galaxy S2 (almost the same hardware) notches up to 3200+ scores!!! and these are basic tests that check cpu performance and your animation rendering capabilities. You cant mess with that really.
Now this could really be because of the high resolution of the screen... which brings me to the only two GOOD points of this phone :
1. Really crisp resolution. It is really just a class apart from older generation phones. Your icons, text, everything looks extremely good!
2. ICS - as everyone already mentioned it is a huge step up in terms of usability, and looks great deal polished. The phone feels good to navigate through, and ICS brings in some other features that make it a good OS. Others can cover on that more.
But anyway, I find those two points as largely ineffective in my choice to buy a phone (but i have unfortunately bought it and got rid of my desire and have been regretting the decision......it has been about 21 days on the galaxy nexus now)
Honestly, STAY AWAY FROM GALAXY NEXUS. The device is not worth it, and ICS evolution (especially bug fixes) and the hardware upgrades later this year would make for a really good and a competitive phone that you can buy!
cheers
Dhruv
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Why don't you sell it while it's still "fresh"..? You could easily get a desire for 200£, if not less actually!
dhruvraj said:
I'l give you an honest overview : the phone is SINCERELY NOT THERE to compete as a completely functional device to be honest.
And let me also tell you that I'm an Android fan boy, and I completely ABHOR apple and everything to do with them.
BUT YET. Samsung Galaxy Nexus is NOT EVEN a complete functional device yet, and paying 530 £ or so (in the UK) for such a phone - IS WASTE OF MONEY.
There are MANY glitches that makes the whole experience very unsavoury. To the point that it definitely DOES NOT LOOK LIKE A FINISHED phone to me at all.
All the gloss of ICS apart, I have seen stability issues with this phone that just totally kills every thing. And mind you this is only on 4.0.1 GSM version UK (I've others here who have the same issue)
I'm a pretty heavy user. I've had a HTC Desire and worked out the ins and outs of the system and that device was EXTREMELY usable over the years.
This phone has so many problems -
1. The LED light does not even support missed calls by default. If you had a missed call you would not know till you turn the screen on (It is a basic feature was available 2 years back on HTC desire) I dont want to install a complicated APP like Light Flow to do it. This is basic stuff that should come out of the box
2. The phone in landscape mode does not type properly, this is just hilarious. Shame on google. The typing works perfect when you keep your phone straight, but the same phone, same stuff if you type in landscape it is incredibly jittery, you dont see what you wrote for good couple of seconds! This is just SHODDY work. how can screen orientation screw up your typing so badly - i have no idea. Just shameful from google.
3. The SMS dont go many times, and I've seen many threads about the same. Apparently you can screw up the message center settings? I dont know how but I'vent done that still had SMS problems a few times. And I had to restart my phone or send multiple times to make it work.
4. The call quality is the WORST I have seen on ANY phone in my entire life. I've been using the phone in exactly the same locations as I was using my HTC desire, and the call drops so much more often that it is just unbelievable! and needless to say incredibly frustrating. If the call doesnt drop the sound, sometimes (& often), is really pathetic and many a times it is inaudible to either party on the call. Is this a phone?
5. The phone is crashing randomly, this happens every 2 days or so (lately every single day now) and I'm a pretty heavy user. People say it is because I'm still on 4.0.1 - well I dont buy that because if 4.0.3 (the latest version) was fixing so many stability issues, then there is NO reason for Google to delay the release of that version on here in the UK for such a long time. Then some people say it is because I've some app installed, well I uninstalled most of my apps - but this problem doesnt go. And the phone becoming unresponsive due to an APP sounds like a serious piece of cr*pware to me. My settings page becomes unresponsive!! How can that happen? It has NEVER happened on android 2.3.7 with my HTC desire. If an APP is buggy, your home and menu screen buttons work perfectly! your android system doesnt become unstable because a stupid APP is incompatible or buggy! but here the WHOLE PHONE BECOMES UNUSABLE!!
And there's more! The latest of the glitches, yesterday - after the usual while typing the phone crashed, and then on reboot - all widgets on my screen - were all scrambled. No widget was displaying any text but jumbled ASCII characters, when you move the widgets the text would show but not without. I rebooted and it has been okay since.
but how horrible is that to put in so much of your money to get a piece of sht phone that doesnt even work and does basic functions correctly?
6. The phone also starts lagging, and is jerky ... especially with live wallpaper. That was really frustrating to see if you bought the phone to be on the cutting edge of mobile technology!! Samsung galaxy s2 scores much higher even on CPU benchmark tests I downloaded. Galaxy nexus fails to score any more than 1700 on the tests while Galaxy S2 (almost the same hardware) notches up to 3200+ scores!!! and these are basic tests that check cpu performance and your animation rendering capabilities. You cant mess with that really.
Now this could really be because of the high resolution of the screen... which brings me to the only two GOOD points of this phone :
1. Really crisp resolution. It is really just a class apart from older generation phones. Your icons, text, everything looks extremely good!
2. ICS - as everyone already mentioned it is a huge step up in terms of usability, and looks great deal polished. The phone feels good to navigate through, and ICS brings in some other features that make it a good OS. Others can cover on that more.
But anyway, I find those two points as largely ineffective in my choice to buy a phone (but i have unfortunately bought it and got rid of my desire and have been regretting the decision......it has been about 21 days on the galaxy nexus now)
Honestly, STAY AWAY FROM GALAXY NEXUS. The device is not worth it, and ICS evolution (especially bug fixes) and the hardware upgrades later this year would make for a really good and a competitive phone that you can buy!
cheers
Dhruv
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No idea which galaxy nexus u are using man , but had mine for just about a month now running aokp with franco kernel , And no i didnt use the stock i rooted and slapped a rom on after 2 days if i wanted to use what they gave me i wouldnt buy a nexus device .
this phone is SMOOOTH i mean FLUIIID is keyword here.
ive had 1 crash on phone in a months time , 0 lag
Seriously wtf are u about when it comes to call quality this is one of the best devices ive used when it comes to call quality ive had many other 3 other droids before this .
if only you read, you dimwit you wouldnt open your mouth
GSM 4.0.1 UK, unrooted stock (I dont want to flash with a new kernel I expect Google to do a good job to begin with)
and I've others on here who have same issues. dont chest thump your way up here, this phone is NOT a finished product and you've no clue what you are talking about
here stock kernel 4.0.1 - i'm attaching screenshots.
1. xda not responding
2. then SETTINGS not responding!!! :: native "settings" not responding (I've never seen that on any android before)
3. how my home screen looks
4. how my home screen looked after a crash and a reboot!! (the one i mentioned in the point above as widgets got screwed!)
dhruvraj said:
if only you read, you dimwit you wouldnt open your mouth
GSM 4.0.1 UK, unrooted stock (I dont want to flash with a new kernel I expect Google to do a good job to begin with)
and I've others on here who have same issues. dont chest thump your way up here, this phone is NOT a finished product and you've no clue what you are talking about
here stock kernel 4.0.1 - i'm attaching screenshots.
1. xda not responding
2. then SETTINGS not responding!!! :: native "settings" not responding (I've never seen that on any android before)
3. how my home screen looks
4. how my home screen looked after a crash and a reboot!! (the one i mentioned in the point above as widgets got screwed!)
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your an idiot nexus is purely aimed to be a developer device.
and all the nexus devices run the latest OS which means some might have issues thats the whole reason they get updates quickly and 4.01 is suppose to be buggy thats why all the good roms are on 4.02 or 4.03 and like how 2.3.3 was the base for all gingerbread roms 4.03 will be the base for all the ICS phones.
People like u should just buy an iphone or a SG2 or some other phones which are tried and tested before they are launched not a nexus device.
just read this thread to see how many problems they have with this phone :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1367807&page=11
and many others about SMS not going, jerky rendering... its all mentioned all over these forums
developers play with custom ROMS which this phone makes easier for you to do, that is not an excuse to dole out a phone riddled with bugs in basic functionalities, just so it looks glossy and cool! that is pathetic
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and here's for the call quality http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1421232
stop your chest thumping around here for a piece of junk phone
Dont fight guys thank you for your answers!
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Hi guys i want a smartphone just for browsing the web. i'll make an intensive use of the browser capabilities of my new smartphone. Camera? Video recording? I don't care! I just want very good browsing capabilities i.e. smooth navigation, pain free browsing...
In theory, the Nexus is the best choice due to its bigger screen however after reading some reviews it is clear to me that the S2 performs better and is more quick when it comes to page loading times and general navigation in websites is better on the S2. also reviewers said that pages with adobe flash elements will load very slow on the Nexus due to ICS issues with adobe flash but they say that there will be an update soon to fix this problem.
is this all true? or the browsing experience with the Nexus could beat the S2 with a proper ROM?
again, i just want very good browser capabilities, not really interested in GPS,camera, radio and stuff like that.
i might also wait for the s3 but maybe it doesn't worth waiting because the s3 is probably going to have a screen size very close to the nexus.
thanks.
I went from a s2 to the GNex and didn't really notice much difference between the two when browsing
Kinda so sounds like you may either want to get a tablet or a galaxy note
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Galaxy Note: too big... I'll look like a nerd holding it on my ear to make a call.
Tablets: even the upcoming GTab 7.7 is too big for me.
Guys please this thread is all about S2 vs GNex for browsing. thanks
GNEX FTW! The browser is amazing, and the higher res screen will make the text clearer.
Correct me if i am wrong, but doesn't higher resolution mean you can fit more on your screen without constantly scrolling and using zoom feature?
not in android. there its only mean u have a better quality and cant see single pixel in gnex. the rest is scaled to same size to view.
the tests i read said that the gnex is faster in browsing but bit worse in grafics.
so for me gnex is best 4 browsing
Only thing I have noticed coming to the Gnex from the S2 is that with the S2 EVERY webpage worked flawlessly (eg BBC iPlayer) with the Gnex quite a few don't work or are laggy... BUT when one does load properly, the screen is gorgeous and the browser is awesome
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I have found the GNEX to be very fast in browsing, but a lot will depend on your connectivity, background apps running, etc.
I own both phones and I find the Nexus better in/for everything...
The Nexus in my opinion is better in all regards. The S3 will probably be close to the specs that the Nexus has (screen wise).
The main thing to realize is that your smart phone use might change. If you want a phone that will be upgraded, is completely changeable, and can do anything you are willing to do to it, then get a Nexus. Think about it- Android will change to the point where hard buttons are not needed- you will already have a phone capable of accepting those changes that will most likely be present in the next overhaul of android.
If you scroll in the S2 browser, the screen movement has a delay compared to your finger movement. Imo its really noticeable and frustrating. GN doesnt have this problem. Paired with the fact that the screen has a higher resolution, Galaxy Nexus is a clear winner in this aspect.
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sadikhov77 said:
Correct me if i am wrong, but doesn't higher resolution mean you can fit more on your screen without constantly scrolling and using zoom feature?
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Craiq said:
not in android. there its only mean u have a better quality and cant see single pixel in gnex. the rest is scaled to same size to view.
the tests i read said that the gnex is faster in browsing but bit worse in grafics.
so for me gnex is best 4 browsing
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I think I'd have to disagree with you on this one. Read a review cum comparison of S2 with GNex (side-by-side) on a famous Android blog, and actually compared the two for myself (colleague has S2 and I have GNex)...
If you keep the text size visually the same (i.e. say a 24pt font on one screen and same 24pt font on other screen) then yes, the extra resolution definitely means you can fit more text on the GNex. I mean, even from a layman's mindset - you're fitting in more pixels on the GNex right... so why wouldn't there be more text?
I have a stock Gnex, my partner has a rooted but stock S2.
The Gnex has a bigger screen at a much higher resolution without moving into "phablet" territory (IMO- see thread about the Gnex being "too big" for other opinions).
If you are a big fan of having multiple tabs open while browsing, you definitely will prefer the stock browser on ICS (which is currently only on the Gnex but will be on the S2 soon). The stock browser on Gingerbread only has "windows", limits the number that you can have open, and forgets what is open if you close the browser. ICS has a much improved tabbed browsing system.
IMO a stock Gnex is also faster in general than the S2 because of the lack of TouchWiz bloatware...but that's a personal preference, my partner loves TouchWiz.
But for the improved resolution alone I think the Gnex wins out as best for web browsing.
1. I have an sgs2 if anyone has had one did you make the switch and why?
2. Is the camera really as bad as some reviews?
3. Is there a way to get the official google updates on the ones that receive it from samsung?
4. Does anyone regret their purchase ?
Any info would be much appreciated
1. My Android journey -> N1, DHD, SGS2, GNex. I made the switch purely because I was madly in love with ICS ever since seeing it on a colleague's GNex, and the improved screen resolution on the GNex. The lack of fixed capacitative buttons have made for a nice added layer of personalisation (with custom ROMs of course).
2. I've taken a few shots with the GNex and am generally satisfied. I think for day to day point-to-shoot moments, it isn't bad at all. The zero shutter lag actually helps capture "the moment" well. But yes, I do miss the superb clarity of my SGS2's pics...
3. I won't even pretend to know the answer to this one, but will instead link you to this : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1391881
4. Hell no. Although if the rumoured Galaxy Nexus "Plus" is coming (faster OMAP4470 CPU @ 1.5GHz and 8MP cam) then I will... but this is just a rumour...
AndreaCristiano said:
1. I have an sgs2 if anyone has had one did you make the switch and why?
2. Is the camera really as bad as some reviews?
3. Is there a way to get the official google updates on the ones that receive it from samsung?
4. Does anyone regret their purchase ?
Any info would be much appreciated
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2. No. Like all cameras on phones it is fine in good light.
3. All updates are exactly the same whether they come from Google or Samsung.
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Thanks guys if anyone else has anything to add I would appreciate it
2. If you focus the Nexus before you shoot, it'll take good photos. That's all it takes really. Pretty much the same with all other phones. If you dont focus, it'll take okay pictures but if you make it focus first then it'll take good photos.
3. Yes, just flash yakju on your GSM nexus then you'll be good. It worked for me.
4. No regret at all.
I just wanted to say something about the camera.
"Capturing the moment" has not really been there for me because I use a pattern lock to secure my phone so I can't go to the camera app as quick as I wanted to. So if you use any type of lock screen that is not the slide one, I wouldn't think that would be that great.
Also about the quality, I would just recommend that you get a friend or go to a store with the galaxy nexus and compare it. I personally don't take many photos so I didn't really care about the quality but I gotta say... its worse than my sgs captivate in my opinion. So I would recommend trying it out for yourself.
Overall, if I had a sgs II I wouldn't switch because that device is still a great device and it will get ics sometime in the future. I would just save my money...
That was just my own personal opinion on the whole thing. Hope you make a good decision!
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I'm leaning towards the switch but I would like to actually use a unit before I make the final call so I might swing into a Verizon store and check one out.
Don't the hardware is a downgrade. The only thing it has is the screen and that's it.once the s2 gets ics it will be much faster and better
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I have spent 2 days with the nexus as a replacement for my water soaked SGS2(exynos) version. Before the haters get on me, i just want to give my honest opinions.
The Nexus is not as bad as many make it out to be. It does have a great screen and does feel nice in the hand. It is also pretty responsive as well.
Things i dont like coming from an sgs2...
-camera is terrible no matter how u put it-im sorry, it just is compared to sgs2
-micro stutter are quite frequent. There is a fair bit of lag throughout the whole phone. Whether it be scolling through web pages, homescreen, gallery or contacts, it just always has a bit of lag. Not crazy lag but again, coming from an SGS2 you never saw it anywhere.
-talking to people on the phone doesnt sound as clear
-speaker is weaker
-no SD
-battery is ok but not as good (could be because i have had it only for 2 days and also might need updates)
-browsers very fast but not as smooth in scrolling, pinch to zoom or playing videos
-apps not completely compatible yet (not nexus' fault)
Again, this is just my take on what i have seen. The phone just seems like a bit of a "work in progress". Also, i think sammy really put their full attention on the sgs2 and its software when they made it.
If you have a choice between the two, definitely go for the sgs2 unless you absolutely cant wait for ICS.
I like my Nexus but...
...i hear better reviews about the Galaxy S2 (better display)
Is that true? Better or worse in other ways?
the nexus screen is sharper and larger. the sgs2 screen is more vibrant and more contrast.
Infuse > SGS2 > GNex.
When I pick up my friends SGS2 to play around with it a bit, I gladly give it back to him.
The crisper and sharper screen with the noticeably higher resolution allows ics to shine. Don't listen to those who simply down play it's screen; it's pretty much *the* fundamental component of a touch screen device.
Good luck!
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I forgot to add one thing in my response to OP... I dearly, madly miss the ability to mount as USB storage in my GNex.
Potterified said:
I forgot to add one thing in my response to OP... I dearly, madly miss the ability to mount as USB storage in my GNex.
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I might be the only one on the planet who actually likes that it uses MTP. I like not having to worry about whether the phone or my computer has mounted the SD card while it's plugged in.
esuohe said:
Infuse > SGS2 > GNex.
When I pick up my friends SGS2 to play around with it a bit, I gladly give it back to him.
The crisper and sharper screen with the noticeably higher resolution allows ics to shine. Don't listen to those who simply down play it's screen; it's pretty much *the* fundamental component of a touch screen device.
Good luck!
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Thanks for the input but how can you say that out of those three phones the infuse is the best? That baffles me
So after reading reviews from tech crunch T3 engadget BGR etc etc I'm at 90% going for Nexus especially with the pure google experience and at least two years of updates ala nexus S rocking ICS
AndreaCristiano said:
Thanks for the input but how can you say that out of those three phones the infuse is the best? That baffles me
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I don't think that was meant as "greater than" signs, but rather arrows to show his device history.
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Camera quality
I had a Nexus and returned it, primarily because I didn't feel the camera quality matched my HTC Thunderbolt's (running Skyraider).
HOWEVER.
After a week without the Nexus, I got the bug to get ICS again, and all the bells and whistles that came with Samsung's device and the newest phone on the market. I use the camera for work, and after spending some time with it - I now feel it's every bit as capable as HTC's - and surpasses it in many ways. I think it was just dealing with something different that turned me off. Sure, it's 5 megapixels v. 8 ... but that's not an accurate comparison, since lens quality and picture-processing algorithms play such an important part. As others mentioned - the no-lag shutter is great, there are some fun built-in features, and video quality is outstanding. The ONLY thing I don't care for is that the photos are not in 16x9 format. That seemed odd to me, and I was discussing it with a friend who's into photography. He pointed out that the pix the Nexus is taking are in 6x4 format (I think that's right -- definitely not 4x3). He says that's an industry standard for printing photos -- that 16x9 presents a problem if you're trying to have a photo printed professionally. I'd still like the option to shoot 16x9 (if it's in there, I can't find it) -- but the camera is far better than some reviews (and my initial experience) would have you believe.
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I might be the only one on the planet who actually likes that it uses MTP. I like not having to worry about whether the phone or my computer has mounted the SD card while it's plugged in.
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I love MTP when connected to my Win7 machine, but my netbook runs Linux, and I'm still figuring out getting MTPFS to automatically mount the phone's filesystem when I connect it. I can write a shell script to mount and unmount, but that isn't as nice as it "just working" on Windows.
Stadsport said:
I might be the only one on the planet who actually likes that it uses MTP. I like not having to worry about whether the phone or my computer has mounted the SD card while it's plugged in.
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+1
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I'm not going to lie.. I'm nervous about buying this phone. I've been a slider user forever and love my old trust worthy Galaxy S running Cyanogenmod's Jellybean port. It really does everything I want.
But I've been thinking about buying a tablet lately and maybe going the Note II route is a better option for me.
If you own one of these phones and have been using it for a couple of weeks and feel like sharing, what do you see as the pro's and con's of this phone?
Con 1 for me - no keyboard.
I love mine - I do a ton of typing and use numbers and characters all the time - switching with a touch screen keyboard to type something like k3yb0ard takes me 2 or 3 times longer using a screen then it does with my keyboard (I've timed it using everything from the stock keyboard to swype)
Pro's - pretty much everything hardware related but the lack of keyboard.
How stable is root on this phone? Everything running nicely? Overclocking? Good ROM and Kernel support? Beats audio? Voltage Control (or other overclocking apps)? All the usual phone root/modding goodies.
Is there a good portable keyboad that works with this phone? (bluetooth, small enough to carry in a pocket also, good battery life) That may be a solution when I'm doing a lot of emails or typing a lot of mixed format msgs.
Anyway, thanks for your answers.
The keyboard thing can be an issue. I know it was for me when I went from a HTC Touch Pro 2 to the EVO 3D. However, after a while I got used to it and it is second nature now. What's nice is the Note 2 takes it a step further. You can use the sPen to HANDWRITE your message instead of using the touch keyboard. It will translate your handwriting to text. I am just starting to get a handle on using the sPen to it's fullest. The new multi-window option is nice too(have a split screen with 2 app running at the same time).
The root on this is solid. It's an easy step by step process, with prebuilt programs that do all the work. The only real difference here is the Samsung counter that counts how many times you have loaded a custom ROM. Anything past 0 will prevent warranty work. BUT there is a program that can reset it and also the original stock tars are out there.
ROM development is lacking a bit right now because it is new. However, I am already seeing an increase in custom ROMs in just the last week or so. So it will get going. It may not get to the level of say the S3 but I think it will be good.
Hope this helps.
The screen is so large that typing on a virtual keyboard is much easier than it used to be.
I had a physical QWERTY fascination starting with the G1 and ending most recently with the MT4G Slide. I have to say that I don't have any moments where I long for a hardware keyboard with this device.
The voice input of Jelly Bean is amazing as well. If you are in a service area or wifi area, it works VERY nicely.
I also recently purchased a Logitech BT keyboard that allows me to use the Note II like a touchscreen netbook. Samsung's Smart Dock will most likely allow a keyboard, mouse, spare USB port and HDMI for only $100, so I consider that to be an option for some.
Even the smallish Samsung swypable keyboard that pops up in Multiview types quite well.
I don't think you will be disappointed with the input options that this device will allow you. Plus, the flatness in your pocket is something that you won't ever get in a slider. This giant phone actually feels better in my pocket than my 3.6" MT4GS did. I even have moments where I need to check if the phone is there. (Side note: I'm an adult and I wear the proper size pants at the proper waist level, sagging's for kids)
I understand where you are coming from.. I had a slider phone myself a few years ago and missed the physical keyboard.. I had an epic 4G touch previously and the screen was cramped for me since I have big hands.. But typing on the note 2 is great due to the large screen and I use swift key and you can increase the keyboard size.(also trying in portrait mode =AWSOME, so much more room lol) . Plus the haptic feed back when pressing keys makes it feel more like a physical keyboard
As far as root its way beyond solid... The customer kernel runs nice.. You can over clock to 1.8..I haven't yet since the phone is so smooth out the box.. I might over clock one day.. The unlimited multi windows is a bonus.. It would really suck to limit multi windows to only a few apps.. The audio mods are nice.. Very loud and nice bass
A really great start to a new device.. Can't wait to see what's to come over time
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I too had keyboard concerns but got over it with the help of SwiftKey. I am a big corporate email user and couldn't imagine being productive without the keyboard. Someone in this forum said go with SwiftKey and you'll never look back. I must also add that the stock N2 isn't bad
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Thanks for all the posts.. I drove myself to the sprint store today so I could play with the phone a bit in person and I'm glad I did.
We might be important when it comes to the election drama, but Ohio won't have LTE until late next year.
Made my decision easy.. no way - no how.
We have 4G wimax here and it's plenty fast.. I'm not downgrading to 3G just to upgrade the rest of my phone. (plus they charge you for 4G LTE anyway - even though we don't offer it.. just in case you go to a area with it)
Anyway, thanks for all the replies. By the time we get 4G LTE here I'll be posting about the Note 4 I think.
Yea, if you are solidly in a Wimax area and use it all the time, unless you can't live without the features of the phone, stay with the wimax phone till LTE comes around.
Where I'm at, the only place I had Wimax was when I was outside for lunch at work. Indoors, I can hardly get a signal for a phone call(this applies to ALL the carriers, as our building really screws with the signal.
I Still think tho that with the new cash infusion/purchase by Softbank, you will see Sprint accelerate it's LTE buildout quite a bit.
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