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I'd like to get some feedback from this community on what people feel works and doesn't work as far as Dev Opts and other settings they use to maximise battery life.
I don't want this to turn into a *****-fest - because I personally have been getting on average about 15h + a day as a moderate user and think this phone/OS combo is capable of more.
I'm relatively new to Android and while there are posts in other forums none of them relate to GN/ICS. There are so many settings to play with and many of them might otherwise go unexplored and unexplained to a lot of users.
A perfect example of this is something I read elsewhere earlier tonight in another rant-based thread. Someone suggested turning Developer Options> Background Process Limit to "At most, 3 processes". I gave that a try and in both instances I got a SOD (not immediately but I'm thinking it may not be sound advice after all).
Something else to consider might be stock apps which are safe to disable.
Things that are known to work or have a majority consensus will be compiled into a list in this thread.
To make things easier, try use a path to the setting you're talking about: Settings > Apps and suchlike.
Thats weird, i've been using that setting all day. I wonder if its an app you have installed thats having its process killed and not liking it. Do you get the same if you set it to 4?
I haven't found much except the obvious screen brightness and setting it to 2g instead of 3g - but that can actually be worse if you have a lot of things syncing often and a congested GPRS network.
Oh and I also have Force GPU rendering on, but i don't think that has much effect.
Good idea for a thread btw.
Thanks. I've heard so many people quote the pitfalls of early adoption (now I'm one of them) I think there may be something in the apps point you make. Narrowing it down is going to be tough I suspect.
I use the below setting on my Nexus S to get two days moderate use:
Brightness at 8% fixed
Black still image wallpaper
Bluetooth off
Gps off
Wifi at home
Always sync off
Others sync off, facebook, gplus
Yupe, that suits my usage pattern. I dont like to bebothered with emails and social network notifications. If I need them, open and update manually.
Really big boost on battery life. I expect this is the same or better with ICS.
Interesting. Good tips gogol.
Yesterday/today I managed to get 1d3h out of the phone.
Admittedly, I didn't put the phone through the punishment I usually subject it to.
I never enable BT, and also turn down the brightness on my screen to about 10%. I do leave sync on but try to limit it to necessary apps only and not app contacts.
Yesterday though, I didn't enable wifi at all (didn't need to really, was in the office all day). I made a few calls, sent a few texts and did my usual commute (about 3hours there and back) listening to music (PowerAmp) and messing around with EQ settings a fair bit.
Because I got 1d though, I got in an extra morning (1. 5hours) of music on the way to work.
So overall I'm pretty happy that I can get on average 15h as a moderate user and a ton more as a light-ish user
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I updated to the new K6 radio a few days ago and reset the process limit back to standard. I managed 1 day 3 hours with 28% left this morning. I used 2 hours 26 minutes of screen time.
For me the new radio seems to have made a massive difference. I think it has to do with it camping one band/tower for longer and not constantly switching between 3 and HSDPA when there's a data transfer.
This thread that I've revamped from my Evo 4G/3D days, hoping to share some of the love with newer users. Over the time I've been on android, I've learned a few simple things that can greatly assist in the battery life of our wonderful smartphones.
If you get anything out of the thread, please don't hesitate to rate it and drop me a thanks!
If you read the thread and like the tips, have a new one to suggest, or have a revision, please post it.
On a similar note, moderators, thanks for the sticky!
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^^This link includes stuff about charging, including trickle charging aka SBC (Why NOT to use it, or at your own peril)
My tips for good battery life:
Tips for Non-Rooted users
1. Turn off all radios when not in use.
(Bluetooth, wifi, data, 4G/Wimax/LTE, NFC, etc) Use a widget like the default power widgets, Switchpro, or a similar app from the market. Newer android versions generally allows users to access these radios and other settings from the notification pulldown menu, , under the "Quick Settings" tab or a row at the top of the pulldown. The radios of the phone draw power if on even if the user isn't actually utilizing the radio's functions. A radio searching for signal (if you are in a low-signal area) drains more than a radio with good signal, so again, turn 'em off when you aren't using 'em.
To manually turn off radios without a toggle, go to menu>settings>wireless & networks.
Wifi uses less battery than 3G, so use wifi when you can.
Unlike the others, GPS radios only draw power when you actually need them, so you can leave it on all the time.
2. Juice Defender is one of my favorite apps. Basically it controls your data for you to maximize life.
More explanations are on their page, search it on the market for free, or upgrade for more features.
Here are my settings for it: Click me
Note that for me at least, juice defender likes to deny apps data privileges whether you allow them or not, so screen on = data on works best for me.
3. I love live wallpapers, and I’ve always been a fan of pixel zombies, but they are really only good for showing off due to their battery drain.
4. Sadly, the "always on mobile data" setting is gone. This tip is invalid.
Go to menu>settings>wireless & networks>mobile networks>disable always on mobile data.
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To clarify, "Always On Mobile Data", when turned off, lets the 3G modem go to sleep after the screen has been off for 5 minutes. It doesn't interfere with anything like email or any other application that requires an internet connection at that moment because it turns on on-demand rather than being on all the time and wasting battery.
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5. Set your screen timeout to something that fits you.
The screen is the highest drain of battery power on any smartphone. BY setting the timeout, you can prevent your phone from staying on when you don’t manually turn off the screen. Also, manually turn off your screen when you’re done with your phone.
Menu>Settings>Display>Screen Timeout
I use 30 seconds.
6. Task killers used to be the shiz, but no longer.
Here is the ultimate, in depth, graphically assisted, explanation by the famous Fresh ROM's chef, Flipz. Shortly, in light of recent testing, really don’t do anything but force apps that the android OS needed to be open, and thus didn’t close, to re-open. So try not using them, unless for stuff like trying to figure out why your phone isn’t sleeping with system panel. You really won’t notice a performance difference, and the adverse effects you aren’t seeing will stop
+=+ A good alternative is the application SystemPanel Pro. It has a free version, but I highly reccomend purchasing the paid app. It basically monitors everything going on with your phone's usage both in real time an in terms of usage history. If your battery is draiging fast, it tells you what app was doing it, how much it was doing it, and allows you to stop it.
7. I'm sure you have all heard around that your phone isn't "sleeping".
This is referring to the phone's "awake" time, hence the name. When you go to Menu>Settings>About Phone>Battery>click on the small battery graphical, you can compare the two lines, time on and awake. Generally, up time refers to the amount of time since the last reboot. The "awake time" is how long the screen has been active. The problem is, a lot of the time, due to the endless possibilities of inconsistencies between apps/ROMs/kernels/phones, the phone will not go to "sleep", drawing power proportionate to the screen being in use when it reality the phone is sitting idle.
If you compare these numbers, and they are the same, or if you note the difference, turn off the screen for a minute, then re-check and they are the same, then your phone is not sleeping.
One solution is to reboot.
I recommend two apps to help monitor:System Panel and Better Battery Stats. These two apps (explained in their FAQ's and descriptions greatly aid in finding those rogues.
Usually, SystemPanel will show an app that has gone "rogue" and is keeping your phone awake.
-This is done by hitting menu>settings>monitoring enabled. Then after some time has passed, ht menu>monitoring>history>change tab to top apps, and see if anything is above, say, 2-4%.
Uninstall applications/reinstalling them slowly, checking after every install to see what is causing it is one tedious but surefire solution.
Lastly,
Follow these steps that I have discovered almost always work.
1. Reboot phone.
2. Instantly upon reboot, as soon as you gain control, open up some type of monitor/taskkiller
3. "kill all" tasks on startup; about 5 times in quick succession should do the trick.
4. Turn off the screen and leave it for about five minutes.
5. Check the up time v. awake time and see if they are the same.
6. If they are, repeat steps 1-5. If they are different, you are good.
8. Apps and Combinations to watch out for!
-Facebook- Tries to sync live feed all the time, HIGHLY recommend unchecking this box, as it creates a massive draw on data
-Skype- This app reportedly (I've seen it myself) likes to sync random data and open up the network for fun. Sign out of app when not in use to fix
A rogue process called "gsiff_daemon", associated with the gyroscope. Changing its name seems to be the only semi-permanent solution. It's located in system/bin.
Lightflow is a pretty damn cool notification/led manager, but it eats up ridiculous system resources using its alarm wakeups. Use at your own risk.
9. Manage your syncing.
This is a big one, and it differs from person to person. Go to Menu>Settings>Accounts and Sync, and take a look at what's going on there. The green or checked or activated box to the right of the option means that there is an account syncing data. I for example have four email addresses, facebook, dropbox, box, weather, etc. That is bad. You should go through and turn off syncing for nasty apps you didn't even know where accessing the internet, or limit the access of apps and services that you do want to allow.
The problem lies in the way this syncing is handled. Each app/service runs on its own schedule, making it particularly likely that your phone could almost always be establishing a data connection and trying to download data for your various apps. See step 2 regarding the app Juice Defender to handle this problem.
10. Vibrate Settings
Vibration and haptic feedback eat up a surprising amount of battery. If you have the haptic feedback enabled, then every time you press anything your phone puts out some juice to make itself dance.
At least on the GSIII, the settings are in menu>settings>sound
Some apps have their own haptic feedback settings, and notifications are their own set entirely.
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Tips for Rooted users:
1. Try out custom kernels.
By going to the Galaxy S III Android Development section of the forums, you can see all of the different kernels being developed. These allow for all kinds of modifications like underclocking the CPU and undervolting, both of which save battery. To see how to use them, read the FAQ's in each thread's OPs.
Here is a great guide to custom kernel's by mroneeyedboh.
2. Use SetCPU in compliance with whatever your custom kernel allows.
This site will explain the basics of SetCPU: http://www.setcpu.com/
-Profiles from SetCPU should usually involve these for battery life optimization:
-Screen off at the minimum clock speed for both, with the max raised on level if sluggishness is apparent
-A temperature greater than “X”
-General power related profiles that lower cpu speed at lower battery levels
-Here are my SetCPU profiles: 1 , 2 , 3
-My profiles change a lot as time goes by, because different kernel creators recommend different settings. I suggest reading up on whatever kernel you are using to gather settings.
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*Some apps or processes begin to run at startup and keep the phone awake. These apps are not detected by things like spare parts or system panel, unless sometimes represented in the "system" process, in which case its usage will be unusually high.
This shouldn't take more than three repeats, and if it does, you need to factory reset, and slowly add apps back to see what's causing the problem.
___--- When it comes to actually "calibrating" one's battery, there are a couple of methods floating around. The method I first learned is to charge the phone all the way, boot into recovery immediately, and "wipe battery stats". Then reboot quickly, and run your phone all the way to death without charging it, then charge it all the way without interrupting it, and you should be good to go. Do this when changing ROMs/kernels for best results.
----When it comes to people claiming 20 plus hours of moderate/heavy use out of their current setup or other ridiculous absurdities, consider my position: No matter what you do, the Evo battery is the Evo battery. You can tweak it and customize it with kernels, ROMs, and settings, but none of that will turn it into a car battery. The main problem (besides a false sense of pride) that leads to these reports is the misunderstanding of what the usage levels are, so here’s my best summary:
* *Light usage – Phone screen actually on for maybe 0-2 hours. Things like a few texts, some emails, 20 minutes web browsing, etc.
* *Moderate usage – You watched a few youtube videos or similar apps, sustained web browsing, hundreds of texts, some games. Hours range from about 2-5 of screen on
* *Heavy usage – LOTS of video watching and games, 3D pics or video, or some high def gaming/movie watching for at least an hour to an hour and a half in total, with lots of emails and texts, browsing, and other app shenanigans. 5+ hours
*I’m sure everyone doesn’t agree with all these numbers, but this is most likely a good average of what powerusers think. All specific hourage may vary due to differences in phones, batteries, ROMs, and kernels… Which also means that most battery comparisons are pointless; it’s only what you can improve on that counts!
I’ll update this whenever I see good stuff, people remind me, or I remember/come across things I do.
Hope it helps everybody!
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I'm not quite sure if leaving the GPS on actually eats up battery now. I've seen articles now that state that GPS is only used if a program needs it. When I go into battery and usage, GPS will only show it has been used only a couple times with the apps that I opened such as Facebook, Speed Test or Gas Buddy. I think with ICS, it has changed in the way that GPS actually works and it is not actually constantly using battery.
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I'm not quite sure if leaving the GPS on actually eats up battery now. I've seen articles now that state that GPS is only used if a program needs it. When I go into battery and usage, GPS will only show it has been used only a couple times with the apps that I opened such as Facebook, Speed Test or Gas Buddy. I think with ICS, it has changed in the way that GPS actually works and it is not actually constantly using battery.
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This is correct and I have confirmed it. Just haven't updated the op.
Thanks for calling that to my attention.
The one about turning radios off is one that makes all the sense in the world, but I'm not sure in practice if it makes a significant enough difference to override the inconvenience of having to flip things on and off as needed.
I can only speak from personal experience but for about two weeks my wife and I, both with S3's, were shutting radios off when not needed out of habit from our Epic days. However, since then (well over a month now) we just leave everything on all the time... and I do mean *everything*: GPS, Wi-Fi, NFC, cell radio, BT... and the difference has been... wait for it... so little it's actually been hard to quantify!
My own take on that rule is to leave everything on and see what you see... it's always easy enough to turn things off if you find your battery life not living up to expectations and if it winds up being a trend, so be it, leave things off as suggested in the OP. For my wife and I at least we can get through an average day and finish up before going to bed around 30%-40% battery most days. To me, even if I could get that to 40%-50% left, that 10% difference I can accept for never having to worry about what's on or off.
Laziness has a price, and it's around 10% of my battery life apparently
great tips!!!! definitely improved my battery with these!
The radios are extremely dependent upon your area, signal strength, the walls of your house, the apps you have installed that actually call upon the data... So ideally, if your area has amazing signal, your walls are hyper radio permeable, and you don't have many data intensive apps, then you can probably get by with minimal loss. People who are feeling the itch to test should certainly go ahead and try, but the same could be said with most of these tips. This is simply a guide of suggestions. YMMV
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The one about turning radios off is one that makes all the sense in the world, but I'm not sure in practice if it makes a significant enough difference to override the inconvenience of having to flip things on and off as needed.
I can only speak from personal experience but for about two weeks my wife and I, both with S3's, were shutting radios off when not needed out of habit from our Epic days. However, since then (well over a month now) we just leave everything on all the time... and I do mean *everything*: GPS, Wi-Fi, NFC, cell radio, BT... and the difference has been... wait for it... so little it's actually been hard to quantify!
My own take on that rule is to leave everything on and see what you see... it's always easy enough to turn things off if you find your battery life not living up to expectations and if it winds up being a trend, so be it, leave things off as suggested in the OP. For my wife and I at least we can get through an average day and finish up before going to bed around 30%-40% battery most days. To me, even if I could get that to 40%-50% left, that 10% difference I can accept for never having to worry about what's on or off.
Laziness has a price, and it's around 10% of my battery life apparently
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Gps Radio?
Really? The radio, even if left on, uses power only when an app needs the position. I am kinda boggled by this? Wouldn't it take longer to aquire the location from the 3-7 sateilites upon the request and then shut back down. What would be the diference? This can't be true about the GPS not sucking any power in ICS when idle.
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Really? The radio, even if left on, uses power only when an app needs the position. I am kinda boggled by this? Wouldn't it take longer to aquire the location from the 3-7 sateilites upon the request and then shut back down. What would be the diference? This can't be true about the GPS not sucking any power in ICS when idle.
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Try leaving it on for the day and go into battery and click on the graph. You will see that it should be black across the board for GPS if the signal was not used. Only time it would be green is when a program utilized it.
ICS changed the Battery Stats. It doesn't display that information in About Device. Uptime is there but awake time isn't.
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ICS changed the Battery Stats. It doesn't display that information in About Device. Uptime is there but awake time isn't.
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Actually, that's incorrect. Menu>Settings>Battery>click on the small graph picture. It gives you many things, including time on battery, Awake time, Screen on time, and charging time. It's just graphically represented.
How do you accomplish #4?
Go to menu>settings>wireless & networks>mobile networks>disable always on mobile data.
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found it under Data Usage
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well, when I turned Mobile Data Off, didn't receive any data (emails, etc.) so I turned it back on
I'm curiouis about this 1 as well. How do we accomplish this as I don't see that option?
Remove that "wipe battery stats" from your tips. its a old myth that needs to die permanently.
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Remove that "wipe battery stats" from your tips. its a old myth that needs to die permanently.
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You are correct.
www.landofdroid.acom/2012/to-wipe-battery-stats-or-not-to-in-androidthat-is-the-question/
I disable everything when I go to sleep at night, or when I am putting my phone on charge in middle of the day to maybe help it gain battery while not draining it, sort of like a power charge I like to think. It's so easy to do, just slide down status bar, uncheck everything (WiFi, Mobile Data, Sync, dim screen all the way) and that's it. I had 22h1m running since last charge today when I was at 4%.
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Thank you for sharing this is to improve life of the battery
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It helps to use the right ROM and know how to work your phone:
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Also, apparently Google apps backup is broken for some users. I had a problem with the phone not sleeping and traced it to google backup, apparently it's a common problem with ICS. This is unrelated to contacts/calendar sync. If you have the phone device rooted and use titanium you can leave this off, and as long as you don't lose your phone it's no big deal. Setting is under system settings -> backup and reset.
Figure I would show this off here, had the flu last week and was basically comatose for 30 hours. Only about 2 hrs screen on time, but all radios on and even passed out with navigation on after checking traffic at one point. 51 hours
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I would try disabling Google backup so it no longer updated/synced my info to the web until I next turned it on, but the option says it deletes all the info already stored on the web. I suppose this is good if someone wanted to delete this info for privacy concerns, but there should be an option to just turn the syncing off, or to schedule it for once a day or something.
I have not tried disabling it as I do not want to wipe my info.
I'm getting quite annoyed with my S3 and its piss poor battery life - currently seeing as little as 5 hours. On average, 55% of my battery goes to "Android System". I've tried a variety of battery monitors, but none can dig deep enough to determine which of the processes under Android System are sucking up all my juice. I'm on stock (rooted) and have tried to uninstall as much as I can (including the notorious Google+). Any tips on an app that can determine exactly which process is draining? I've also disabled as many Samsung apps as I can. I *did* try CM10 for a bit, but too many small things were not working right, so I nandroid'ed back to stock again.
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I'm getting quite annoyed with my S3 and its piss poor battery life - currently seeing as little as 5 hours. On average, 55% of my battery goes to "Android System". I've tried a variety of battery monitors, but none can dig deep enough to determine which of the processes under Android System are sucking up all my juice. I'm on stock (rooted) and have tried to uninstall as much as I can (including the notorious Google+). Any tips on an app that can determine exactly which process is draining? I've also disabled as many Samsung apps as I can. I *did* try CM10 for a bit, but too many small things were not working right, so I nandroid'ed back to stock again.
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I had this problem numerous times before. If it is Android System that is taking up battery, then its most probably a bad kernel. Your nandroid backup probably was bad. (it sucks, i know). Redownload the stock rom, flash it in odin, before starting up reboot in recovery and factory reset, then start it up. Your problem should be resolved. dont restore any apps and start fresh. Like I said it sucks but what can you do?
Hey ScottC,
Definitely doesn't sound normal. At the end of the day, I'm sitting around 10% lost to android system, 15% tops (of course this can vary on what you use and how you use it, but if your battery dies in 5 hours, certainly something is wrong). It's possible that in the process of nandroiding back, something messed up. I'd recommend a complete wipe (factory reset, wipe dalvik, etc), then test it out for a day or two. If the issue persists, you will likely want to Odin back to stock. If it still persists (highly unlikely), I'd call in for an exchange. Best of luck to you, and please let us know the results!
Thanks for the tips - to clarify, it was doing this before I ever nandroided back - but I have a feeling wiping might be the best bet (or trying out a better JB leak).
I think you may be getting the gsiff_daemon bug. Next time you have the battery start draining like that, turn on show cpu usage under developer options in settings. If you see gsiff_daemon at the top, then that's what's causing the android system battery suck.
The fix is simple go to /system/bin with a root explorer, mount r/w and rename gsiff_daemon to .Bak or delete it. This won't hurt anything. Then reboot.
There is a thread about this in QA. If you check it out keep in mind it's full of wags and speculation.
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I have the same issue. My phone was 100 percent and I've been sitting here watching the Texans game and I'm getting the worst battery life today that I have in my week or so of owning this phone. My phone is bone stock.
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I have the same issue
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I think you may be getting the gsiff_daemon bug. Next time you have the battery start draining like that, turn on show cpu usage under developer options in settings. If you see gsiff_daemon at the top, then that's what's causing the android system battery suck.
The fix is simple go to /system/bin with a root explorer, mount r/w and rename gsiff_daemon to .Bak or delete it. This won't hurt anything. Then reboot.
There is a thread about this in QA. If you check it out keep in mind it's full of wags and speculation.
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Add another one to the list for this problem. I've had my phone since Sept. 27th (so 3 weeks?) and up until about 4 days ago it was great. Great battery life, even with all the bells and whistles turned on, and several apps that update constantly. For some reason a few days ago it started to battery drain HARD, downing to 25% of the battery life in less than 6 hours. That's with the phone sitting idle, not touching it, on wi-fi (not 4G) with excellent signal. Last night I plugged the phone in at 10% battery, did some chores, and returned some 3 hours later to find the battery at 5%. It drained while it was plugged in!
The battery drain issue seemed to start after the phone decided to have a certain level of diffuculty finding a 4G signal. I had to reboot the phone to get it to connect to the network. After that, the Android System will take anywhere from 55% to 76% of the battery drain.
I have shut off numerous programs, disabled the Samsung apps that were said to possibly be a problem, and looked for the gsiff_daemon in the CPU list (my top process is "com.android.systemui"). I searched com.android.systemui to see if I could find a fix, and all I'm really seeing is "flash a new ROM" or "Your kernal is bad, reset or reflash it." I'm running a 100% stock phone, and actually had no intention of rooting or flashing this phone yet, and I didn't want to have to factory default it. It's starting to look like that's my only option. Someone said that this bug seems to crop up out of pure chance and I think they may be right. My husband has the identical phone, bought, charged and activated the same day, and he doesn't have this problem. He's still getting the incredible battery life that I used to get.
So what's the skinny? Is my only option on this a factory reset? I've seen threads referrring to a thread dedicated to this topic, yet no links. If there's more info to be found, I'd love to read it.
This thread might as well be titled "all noobs thread". It is known widely that android system in jb leaks is a problem but of course u cant know that cuz reading and searching are two words that sound like chinese to you.
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This thread might as well be titled "all noobs thread". It is known widely that android system in jb leaks is a problem but of course u cant know that cuz reading and searching are two words that sound like chinese to you.
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Actually I have "searched" and "read". I wouldn't have posted had I been able to find an answer. Everything I've found has been for ROOTED/FLASHED ROMs, and I'm on stock. I don't want to root/flash this phone, I'd like to fix it without having to return it or factory default it if possible. I also mentioned that I had gone through threads and tried as many of the tips there that applied to my situation.
While I'm not nearly the level of many here, I'm also not a n00b. I've flashed, rooted and hacked many devices, I'm just trying to avoid that here. I didn't run across anything called "jb leaks" in my search, so if you'd care to be helpful and elaborate on that term, it might prove useful.
I believe this is the thread you were told about.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1755180
When you checked cpu use, how did you check it? There's an option in Dev Options to Show CPU Usage and you can see real time what's running. Just fyi in case you did it differently.
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Thanks for the Link, Doc! It's much appreciated. As far as checking the CPU, I used the option under the Dev Options menu and watched it bounce about. Many different programs would take top spot, but when the phone was idling it was always com.android.systemui at the top. When it wasn't top, it was never far below.
Have you tried booting into recovery and wiping dalvik cache?
If it comes to it, before factory resetting since you want to avoid that, download the official stock FW and flash with Odin. I'm pretty sure it will keep your data and apps intact. Backup data first in case I'm remembering wrong. If that doesn't do it then factory reset may be your final option.
Check settings > Battery, and open Android System (I'm betting its at the top). This may give you a better idea of what the root cause could be, maybe...
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Actually I have "searched" and "read". I wouldn't have posted had I been able to find an answer. Everything I've found has been for ROOTED/FLASHED ROMs, and I'm on stock. I don't want to root/flash this phone, I'd like to fix it without having to return it or factory default it if possible. I also mentioned that I had gone through threads and tried as many of the tips there that applied to my situation.
While I'm not nearly the level of many here, I'm also not a n00b. I've flashed, rooted and hacked many devices, I'm just trying to avoid that here. I didn't run across anything called "jb leaks" in my search, so if you'd care to be helpful and elaborate on that term, it might prove useful.
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You are not the op of this thread so i cannot comment about your problems. The first posts regard rooted devices running jb leaked roms and in the jb leaked roms threads all people talk about is android system taking a high percentage of the battery usage. So one must be really blind not to notice what is the problem and fix if there is any. There is no fix and it is kernel issue. Thats the reason why it is called leak and not official release. U can post some screenshots of ur battery usage and firmware version you are running if u want people to help u since u claim u r all stock and still android system usage is high 76%.
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I tried booting into recovery, but since I'm not a rooted user I can't clear the delvick cache. Somehow in the process of attempting booting into recovery I managed to lose my set wallpaper and most of my homescreen widgets, though the rest of my data and programs seem perfectly intact (accidentally went into a safe mode option). I did clear the cache partition in recovery, and tried another trick someone listed of pulling the battery and holding down the power key (I'll try anything at this point) and oddly it seems to be behaving better so far. Sitting on my desk it didn't discharge at all, and having just put all my widgets back it's only drained a few points. The screen is now the big spender at 39% with Cell Standby next at 12% (previously is was Android System being the hog at 50-70%). I have no idea which of the things I did actually did anything, but I think this just saved my tail.
I'm going to charge the phone normally tonight and leave it loose all day tomorrow like I usually do, and see what happens. If it starts battery draining again, I'm going to try flashing with Odin. Here's hoping I'm one of the few lucky ones where the problem simply "goes away".
Thanks again for your help!
Well that's kinda weird...good, but weird!
I've heard of people going into safe mode but its never intentional and I've never found how to do so at will.
As long as it goes back to normal though! Hope it does! Good luck!
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I know that this sounds pretty simple and you may have already tried this, but it always works like a charm for me. Try draining the battery ALL the way down until it automatically shuts off. Then keep turning it on until it won't even turn on our vibrate anymore. Plug it in and turn it on. Leave it plugged in until it's at 100% again, I do this overnight so there's no usage other than standby. Hopefully this will get your battery back in shape. Good luck!
DocHoliday77 said:
Well that's kinda weird...good, but weird!
I've heard of people going into safe mode but its never intentional and I've never found how to do so at will.
As long as it goes back to normal though! Hope it does! Good luck!
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Sometimes I wonder how I got into Safe mode.
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1821557
Well, It behaved for about an hour, then it started the massive drain again. Sadly I just backed a few things up and then factory defaulted it. We're leaving on a trip tomorrow, and I need it to not be a power-sucking brick. Oddly, everything that my CPU report was showing was identical to my husban'd phone, which has no issues with battery life. The Gsiff daemon never once showed up.
As far as safe mode, I held down the volume down button while I powered up the phone. It went into safe mode. Don't know if it'll work for y'all, or if it was just a fluke on my part. :>
Thank everyone for your help in trying to troubleshoot this. One of these days I'd love to have an electronic device that just worked without me having to poke around in it's guts. ;>
If its still acting up after the factory reset, your best bet is to flash the stock FW with Odin. If the factory reset didn't wipe your internal sdcard, you may need to to wipe it in recovery by using format data as well. (Factory reset should do this anyway as long as you're on stock recovery)
I've seen on some jb leaks where this would significantly help. I know your not using jb but its worth mentioning anyway.
Good luck!
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Scenario:
Yes, yes, I know. Battery life issues. This is a common problem, noticeably on the Samsung Galaxy S3. However, I've taken a look at MANY MANY threads concerning this common and irritating issue. I always ensure that my data is off, wifi is off, airplane mode is enabled, power saving mode is on, sync is off, brightness is at low, etc. I've even gone to the running services section and manually stopped unnecessary processes. However, my battery life is still terrible. I've tried different roms, different kernels, and eventually found myself back at the stock rom and kernel (best stability). I've debloated my device. I even downloaded a bunch of useless battery saving apps that don't do much apart from the obvious. Is there anything I can do? I will be putting up screenshots of my battery stats.
Usage;
I am a typical user when it comes to smartphones. I browse through xda forums, watch some youtube videos, browse the internet, play a few games, and soon enough the battery begins to plummet. I've noticed at times that the phone gets hot. I have a general knowledge of the things that drain my battery the most. After looking at the battery stats section that comes with phone, it says that Android system, media, and screen use the most battery. Whats the point of having a smartphone if you have to tweak almost everything just to allow your phone to last one day?
I am thinking that there are certain background processes that are dramatically draining my battery. I don't have many apps installed, because I am always flashing roms. I've wiped media storage data, by the way. Some apps that I have installed are the xda developers app, dolphin browser, rescan media root, root browser, rom manager, DS Battery Saver, and lux dash.
Extra: I've debloated (still some left over garbage stock apps leftover but not much, and does it actually help?), I've installed lux lite and lowered my brightness to the point where you can barely see the screen, and I've also downloaded rescan media root and disabled media scan (I heard it has some effect).
If you have any suggestions, please post them. Thanks for reading my thread.
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Scenario:
Yes, yes, I know. Battery life issues. This is a common problem, noticeably on the Samsung Galaxy S3. However, I've taken a look at MANY MANY threads concerning this common and irritating issue. I always ensure that my data is off, wifi is off, airplane mode is enabled, power saving mode is on, sync is off, brightness is at low, etc. I've even gone to the running services section and manually stopped unnecessary processes. However, my battery life is still terrible. I've tried different roms, different kernels, and eventually found myself back at the stock rom and kernel (best stability). I've debloated my device. I even downloaded a bunch of useless battery saving apps that don't do much apart from the obvious. Is there anything I can do? I will be putting up screenshots of my battery stats.
Usage;
I am a typical user when it comes to smartphones. I browse through xda forums, watch some youtube videos, browse the internet, play a few games, and soon enough the battery begins to plummet. I've noticed at times that the phone gets hot. I have a general knowledge of the things that drain my battery the most. After looking at the battery stats section that comes with phone, it says that Android system, media, and screen use the most battery. Whats the point of having a smartphone if you have to tweak almost everything just to allow your phone to last one day?
I am thinking that there are certain background processes that are dramatically draining my battery. I don't have many apps installed, because I am always flashing roms. I've wiped media storage data, by the way. Some apps that I have installed are the xda developers app, dolphin browser, rescan media root, root browser, rom manager, DS Battery Saver, and lux dash.
Extra: I've debloated (still some left over garbage stock apps leftover but not much, and does it actually help?), I've installed lux lite and lowered my brightness to the point where you can barely see the screen, and I've also downloaded rescan media root and disabled media scan (I heard it has some effect).
If you have any suggestions, please post them. Thanks for reading my thread.
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TL;DR all the way since there is no numbers. We need numbers and better yet wakelocks. The info you state sounds like normal usage that should get about 2-3 hours screen on time, and 16 hours or so day usage. You say you turn off data, and wifi, and put on airplane mode, and stuff and yet you use the phone normally?? Either way give us screen on time and the main users, and the graph.
Furthermore, no need for duplicate threads....
mt3g said:
TL;DR all the way since there is no numbers. We need numbers and better yet wakelocks. The info you state sounds like normal usage that should get about 2-3 hours screen on time, and 16 hours or so day usage. You say you turn off data, and wifi, and put on airplane mode, and stuff and yet you use the phone normally?? Either way give us screen on time and the main users, and the graph.
Furthermore, no need for duplicate threads....
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What do you mean when you said TL ;DR all the way? What is TL ;DR?
I'm going to charge up to 100% and then when I get to about 50% battery life or so I will post screenshots. As I stated in my first post, I acknowledge that there are many battery problem threads out there, but people also say it can vary from phone to phone, and I will soon post screenshots so that somebody can at least tell me what is causing my battery drain, specifically and what I can do about it.
If anybody feels that this is a duplicated thread, please refer me some links or useful threads that I can look at.
Forum mods, if you feel that this is a duplicated thread feel free to close it.
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What do you mean when you said TL ;DR all the way? What is TL ;DR?
I'm going to charge up to 100% and then when I get to about 50% battery life or so I will post screenshots. As I stated in my first post, I acknowledge that there are many battery problem threads out there, but people also say it can vary from phone to phone, and I will soon post screenshots so that somebody can at least tell me what is causing my battery drain, specifically and what I can do about it.
If anybody feels that this is a duplicated thread, please refer me some links or useful threads that I can look at.
Forum mods, if you feel that this is a duplicated thread feel free to close it.
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BetterBatteryStats log or nobody can help you.
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BetterBatteryStats log or nobody can help you.
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Should I just leave it overnight and then post bbs log tomorrow?
Btw, should I install ktweaker so that I can set governor to conservative and also tweak some settings or should I leave it alone?
Also if you really want reliable results, either run the tests on the primary rom you will be using or run on stock rooted. Dont debloat because it can be very easy to remove something that could impact performance. You can do that after running your tests and gathering data. The further down you run your battery, the more reliable the data btw.
This hasn't been much of an issue since JB came out, but if the media scanner is using a large amount of power delete all your media content from both internal and external sd cards. Clear data on media storage (factory reset preferred) and run a day w/o the media on your device.
As stated above though, BBS screenshots are needed for further help.
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Also if you really want reliable results, either run the tests on the primary rom you will be using or run on stock rooted. Dont debloat because it can be very easy to remove something that could impact performance. You can do that after running your tests and gathering data. The further down you run your battery, the more reliable the data btw.
This hasn't been much of an issue since JB came out, but if the media scanner is using a large amount of power delete all your media content from both internal and external sd cards. Clear data on media storage (factory reset preferred) and run a day w/o the media on your device.
As stated above though, BBS screenshots are needed for further help.
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Ok I'll reinstall stock rom and kernel and post results tomorrow. Should I turn off wifi, set airplane mode, set powersaving mode, (basically do normal tweaks to save battery) or just leave it as normal?
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Ok I'll reinstall stock rom and kernel and post results tomorrow. Should I turn off wifi, set airplane mode, set powersaving mode, (basically do normal tweaks to save battery) or just leave it as normal?
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No.
Charge it up before you go to sleep. Unplug the phone, turn off the display, and let it sit idle while you sleep for at least 4 hours. When you wake up, open BetterBatteryStats, and press the share button on the top right. Dump to txt file and post it here.
If you give BBS root access, and set it to show alarms (in the advanced settings), that can be helpful also. It's better if you can do this, actually. Then run your test.
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What do you mean when you said TL ;DR all the way? What is TL ;DR?
I'm going to charge up to 100% and then when I get to about 50% battery life or so I will post screenshots. As I stated in my first post, I acknowledge that there are many battery problem threads out there, but people also say it can vary from phone to phone, and I will soon post screenshots so that somebody can at least tell me what is causing my battery drain, specifically and what I can do about it.
If anybody feels that this is a duplicated thread, please refer me some links or useful threads that I can look at.
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I was referring to you making two posts about the same thing. As you're already aware of since you acknowledged your mistake here
and tl;dr is Too Long Didn't Read... just cause of the fact that there was no numbers to look at. Looking forward to seeing what your issue is tomorrow. Hopefully it might just be a bad battery.
Yeah just reset to stock and just doing some daily browsing on phone. Btw, on bbs, there are multiple graph, (processes, wakelocks, kernel wakelocks, other, alarm wakelock, etc) which one(s) should I post?
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All and click on the share logo, and do dump text file and post that also.
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I left it on overnight, battery only drained like 4% so I don't think its a problem when its in idle. As of now I am testing how long my battery will last with moderate usage. I'm hoping it will last at least 24h its been 10h and its at 79%. Its that good? I've mostly been listening to music, I haven't opened any apps. Only problem is whenever I am on xda or playing a game, the battery seems to drain like 1% every 5-10 min. Is this normal?
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I left it on overnight, battery only drained like 4% so I don't think its a problem when its in idle. As of now I am testing how long my battery will last with moderate usage. I'm hoping it will last at least 24h its been 10h and its at 79%. Its that good? I've mostly been listening to music, I haven't opened any apps. Only problem is whenever I am on xda or playing a game, the battery seems to drain like 1% every 5-10 min. Is this normal?
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Yes that's normal.
Just leave BBS running all the time. If you have any more problems, I think you know what to do
This is exactly what I was expecting the whole time, normal usage and normal battery drainage.
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mt3g said:
This is exactly what I was expecting the whole time, normal usage and normal battery drainage.
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My battery life on stock rom is better than custom rom and kernel? I find that kind of weird. Is it just me or do other people's phones have better battery life on stock than custom?
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My battery life on stock rom is better than custom rom and kernel? I find that kind of weird. Is it just me or do other people's phones have better battery life on stock than custom?
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I run stock. Never seen anyone beat mine...
Lol then I guess I have been hearing the wrong stuff, always thought that custom roms/kernels were better than stock
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I run stock. Never seen anyone beat mine...
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I think he means stock like out of box
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I think he means stock like out of box
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Have you seen this? http://www.jeffmixon.com/examining-build-prop-tweaks-for-android-ics-a-comprehensive-guide-part-1/
Most of the battery "tweaks" in use by custom ROMs are in there. And I was running stock deodexed before S3Rx and ultimately Dandroid. Battery is always good as long as I run LJC firmware.
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Have you seen this? http://www.jeffmixon.com/examining-build-prop-tweaks-for-android-ics-a-comprehensive-guide-part-1/
Most of the battery "tweaks" in use by custom ROMs are in there. And I was running stock deodexed before S3Rx and ultimately Dandroid. Battery is always good as long as I run LJC firmware.
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Just took a quick look at it, looks pretty complicated for me. What exactly is the difference between deodexed and odexed anyways? I've heard of both of them but never really understood what they were. Which firmware do you run on currently?
For the firmware are you referring to the 4.1.1 JB firmware T999_UVDLJC?
I use and love LG G3 D855 international version
I almost went completely mental trying to discover and fix what caused my battery to drain from 100% to zero in 5-6 hours with about 1 lame hour SOT. Believe me i tried freaking everything, from obbsessing about wakelock (everytime I killed one i was rewarded with 4 or 5 new ones in return) to installing multiple battery savers every week to try if they worked, Most do not! I searched XDA Threads and reddit, i even started few threads asking for help, nothing worked. Until I changed my thinking and demands for useless (but cool) tweaks.
Here's what i did, or did not do :
I installed CloudyG3 Rom version 1.2 I got rid off all battery savers/tweakers, i did not install Xposed Frameworks (witch was the hardest one to get rid off because im heavily used to some tweaks available there) I know Xposed by itself does not drain battery, but i've learned that many of the tweaks are not coded good enaugh so they drain alot. (while others are perfect and work fine) but i don't feel like sort out the good from the bads, i now know that all of them can be lived without.
I also got rid of all battery monitoring software, many of them do take to much juice by monitoring my system.
The rom is rooted, i got "superSU", "Busybox", "titanium backup", "root explorer" and some other root apps for the basics. I leave all system or ui tweaks apps out, they're easy to live without and some drain alot of juice. I even skipped installing Greenify, wich has done amazing job on my previous devices, but somehow was not on my G3 (i know i couldn't belive it myself)
I on the other hand have Android device manager active and screen on "auto" with the slider in full. For the first week or two i had all systems on, i had wifi and data both always on and gps and location services, i want to be able to use the device to it's fullest, but that can cost juice. It was fine, i got about 2.5 - 3 hours screen on time over 15-17h period, witch did not fully satisfy my needs, though it was a step up from the 1 - 1.5h I had before.
So i figured to use tasker to automate everything i liked, but i don't find tasker user experience good enaugh, it's too much too learn and get right for a "player" like me. So after googling for few minutes i installed app called AutomateIt Pro (there is a free version but i bought it to get more triggers, like cell tower based trigger. AutomateIt Pro i use to turn on wifi and disable data when im home or at office, and when i leave those places it does the opposite (wifi off, data on) , I leave Location disabled but make it enable when i open apps that uses it like maps, (and of cource disable it again when apps closes) and if i loose the phone i can enable both gps and sounds by sending a password by sms, that way i can use Android Device manager if it's gets lost.
I have few more tweaks there but those are the ones that saves my battery, the others i use for my special needs like disable screen rotation unless apps of my choice are open. and some others probably not worth to mention. I find this app easy to use and does it's job well. There are actually many apps that can do the same, like Tasker, Trigger and some others, but this one worked for me.
The results are quite good, i get 4-5 hours screen on time over 17-20 hour period, thats more than a day so usually it's about 30% battery left when i plug it in and go to sleep. the 4-5 hours suit my usage so im really happy after trying almost every trick in the book, and even trying to discover new ones to fix my horrible previous battery life.
In ending i want to say i am no expert, I know quite little about Android insides or how it works. But i´m a heavy user with more knowledge of the basic stuff than the people around me. Feel free to try out what i did, but i can in no way guarantee they will work or if they are useless. I share all the stuff that i did, some obviously are helping while some are not and did not need to be done, but my device is now as i like it to be and i don't have the time to go into finding out witch ones are doing the trick. All the changes i did are pretty basic so you shouldn't be able to damage anything, unless you're an idiot of course
Sorry about my english, it's not my first language and it gets rusty when not used regularly.
I hope this way to long madness will help those in same problems that i was in....
Interesting post. As what I've seen in the play services greenifying thread, Cloudy rom users have already an amazing battery life, looks like all the debloating is useful.
I have debloated my F460 from all the korean crap and compared to my girlfriend's, which is untouched, it is noticeable.
I get easily 2.5 or 3h of SOT, with location reporting on, and tasker for automating things like wifi on/off, measuring my commuting time from my car bluetooth to my house/work wifi, or refreshing some custom zooper widgets when screen is on (namely how long I have been working).
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Interesting post. As what I've seen in the play services greenifying thread, Cloudy rom users have already an amazing battery life, looks like all the debloating is useful.
I have debloated my F460 from all the korean crap and compared to my girlfriend's, which is untouched, it is noticeable.
I get easily 2.5 or 3h of SOT, with location reporting on, and tasker for automating things like wifi on/off, measuring my commuting time from my car bluetooth to my house/work wifi, or refreshing some custom zooper widgets when screen is on (namely how long I have been working).
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Yeah im really glad i finally got things going with this great device...
But Zooper widgets? are they worth it? i tried them (some time ago) and it jumped to nr 2 or 3 in battery usage list. When i see something like that i instantly delete, i have zero patient for useless (often cool though) tweaks that drain my juce.
Believe me i will be the first one to say yes to bigger screens and faster hardware, but the battery life has to come first, otherwise all the goods are completely useless
I agree, but Tasker and location reporting are one of the things that I most want to keep in my device. I have verified that mobile data consumes way much more than wifi connection (maybe because tasker needs to query more and for longer time for my location based events?). Anyhow, today I am at 75% of battery with 45 mins SOT and 8h35m running on battery. I am satisfied, yet I always try to improve this time.