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So, does HSPA+ show up as a separate indicator?

The way you can distinguish between EDGE and HSPA. Is it it's own individual thing or does it just show up as fast HSPA? Basically, how do I know if I'm connected?
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aad4321 said:
...."Sent from my Nexus S using Tapatalk" Oh im sorry, I see you are using a Nexus S, you will not be able to use HSPA + LOLOL ROFL COPTER FAILBLOG
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I actually ordered a G2 today. That's why I'm asking on the G2 board, asshole.
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It depends on which ROM you're using.
On the stock G2 ROM, T-Mobile programmed it so you only either see E for EDGE or H for anything from UMTS to HSDPA to HSPA+.
If you install a Sense ROM, you'll see the correct indicator. I.e. an E for EDGE, 3G for UMTS/HSDPA, and an H for HSPA+.
I have no idea what Cyanogen will show you, as I haven't used CM on my G2, but I would imagine it'd be the same as the Sense ROMs.
Basically, T-Mobile wants you to believe you're *always* on HSPA+, but the non-carrier-backed ROMs tell the truth.

the orange bandit said:
If you install a Sense ROM, you'll see the correct indicator. I.e. an E for EDGE, 3G for UMTS/HSDPA, and an H for HSPA+.
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The Sense ROMs show 3G for UMTS, and H for HSPA(HSDPA)/HSPA+.

Does anyone know what CM does? It's all I use. Also, HSPA+ just automatically picks up, right? It's not like Sprint's horrible 4G where you have to turn on your 4G radio that sucks the life out of the battery in a matter of hours.

TheBiles said:
Does anyone know what CM does? It's all I use. Also, HSPA+ just automatically picks up, right? It's not like Sprint's horrible 4G where you have to turn on your 4G radio that sucks the life out of the battery in a matter of hours.
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Correct. You *can* switch to EDGE-only if you wish (I do this at work cause I have WiFi and my cubicle is a black hole) but you don't need to do anything special to 'activate' HSPA+

HSPA+ is really just a faster HSDPA revision. Nothing special.
You should get the same H logo from as low as 1.2 Mbps HSDPA to at least 21 Mbps HSPA+ and probably more.
Also, technically, I think that 14.4 Mbps is still part of the HSDPA 3GPP release 5 revision. 21 Mbps is the newer release 7 HSPA+. So even if there were a "H+" sign, the Desire Z/G2 should never use it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSDPA

TheBiles said:
Does anyone know what CM does? It's all I use. Also, HSPA+ just automatically picks up, right? It's not like Sprint's horrible 4G where you have to turn on your 4G radio that sucks the life out of the battery in a matter of hours.
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CM does show 3g and H.
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heybobitsme said:
CM does show 3g and H.
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So this convention: 3G for UMTS, and H for HSPA(HSDPA)/HSPA+?

TheBiles said:
So this convention: 3G for UMTS, and H for HSPA(HSDPA)/HSPA+?
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I'm assuming. I've seen it change, but haven't looked at the wireless status to confirm.
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My phone is still on stock rom. I get.....
E
G
H
H+
I guess my phone has an update or something.
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Bdix said:
My phone is still on stock rom. I get.....
E
G
H
H+
I guess my phone has an update or something.
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This is what I was hoping for. Maybe there's a theme for CM.
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I can 100% say that CM shows G for GSM, or whatever the exact term is. E for edge, 3G for when you are in 3G and H for HSPA+. I've flashed several diffeernt roms and everyone I have flashed(other than stock) show the true data.
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PatrickHuey said:
I can 100% say that CM shows G for GSM, or whatever the exact term is. E for edge, 3G for when you are in 3G and H for HSPA+.
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Sorry if this seems pedantic, but doesn't it show "H" for HSPA or HSPA+ ? Not just for HSPA+ ?

On my unlocked tmobile comet (Ideos) , when I insert my HSPA+ Sim in, it shows HSPA in the "about phone" info options in settings as network type, but only bars with no 3G/4G icon. (possibly because I am not connecting completely)
Looks like I need to have my provider update my device so it works, but in theory it should.

There's a H+ icon?
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brewser123 said:
On my unlocked tmobile comet (Ideos) , when I insert my HSPA+ Sim in, it shows HSPA in the "about phone" info options in settings as network type, but only bars with no 3G/4G icon. (possibly because I am not connecting completely)
Looks like I need to have my provider update my device so it works, but in theory it should.
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Dude-__- There's no such thing as a HSPA+ Sim..*Double Facepalm*
And I think the H icon on cm6 means regular HSPA (7.2) and the 3g Icon means HSPA+ rarely do I see the 3g icon
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dontbes said:
There's a H+ icon?
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In some custom ROMs, yes. Not in the stock ROMs.

Alex530 said:
Dude-__- There's no such thing as a HSPA+ Sim..*Double Facepalm*
And I think the H icon on cm6 means regular HSPA (7.2) and the 3g Icon means HSPA+ rarely do I see the 3g icon
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No, in CM the 3G icon is UMTS, and the H icon is HSPA/HSPA+.

Alex530 said:
Dude-__- There's no such thing as a HSPA+ Sim..*Double Facepalm*
And I think the H icon on cm6 means regular HSPA (7.2) and the 3g Icon means HSPA+ rarely do I see the 3g icon
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Double facepalm youself LMAO!! UMTS is 3G (7.2), HSPA is 4G (14.4), and HSPA+ is 4G (21.1) also. You are right though, wtf is an hspa+ sim? The sim I've had since the days of my RAZR works just fine.
In CM ROMs (and most others):
G = GSM/GPRS
E = EDGE
3G = 3G aka UMTS
H = HSPA/HSPA+ aka 4G

Wimax 4G on htc G2

I've been looking for cellphone providers in my country and there is only one of them that has 4G. My question is will wimax work on the G2 abroad?
T-Mobile G2 1.42 GHZ

Well its a GSM/HSPA+ device, so, no...

FinalJenemba said:
Well its a GSM/HSPA+ device, so, no...
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Damn!, thnx tho, I guess ill have to stick to 3G while over there, 3G over there is freaking 1-2mbps
T-Mobile G2 1.42 GHZ

use Maxis, its the only telco with HSPA+ in Malaysia. 4G speed.
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Is your 4G working with Simple Mobile?

Hello,
Does anyone have Simple Mobile and there 4G is working. Mine is not

Simple Mobile is on T-Mobile and P930 doesn't have AWS UMTS/HSPA bands. So you will never get 4G on Simple.
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So is this the same for 3G as well? Also would straight talk be supported?

I believe Straight Talk has 2 options, a T-Mobile-based SIM and an AT&T-based SIM. You would choose an AT&T SIM and you would be able to enjoy 3.5G (HSPA+), but no LTE.

Malnilion said:
I believe Straight Talk has 2 options, a T-Mobile-based SIM and an AT&T-based SIM. You would choose an AT&T SIM and you would be able to enjoy 3.5G (HSPA+), but no LTE.
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Ok cool. Thanks for the heads up!

immascorpio1114 said:
So is this the same for 3G as well? Also would straight talk be supported?
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UMTS is 3G, see my original post
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Ugh are there any radio hacks
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immascorpio1114 said:
Ugh are there any radio hacks
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No, the hardware just doesn't support it. Its not a software fixable issue.
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I probably would have to wait until T-Mobile update their bands, which probably will never happen. But in the meantime, I'll be switching to straight Talk. Is 3.5G fast in a sense?
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immascorpio1114 said:
I probably would have to wait until T-Mobile update their bands, which probably will never happen. But in the meantime, I'll be switching to straight Talk. Is 3.5G fast in a sense?
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I live in an area where there is no lte and I use it every day with at&t. Works fine, not real fast, but not slow either

mgoblueno1 said:
I live in an area where there is no lte and I use it every day with at&t. Works fine, not real fast, but not slow either
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I have used both, lte in one town, 4G (3.5g) in the other and per speedtest there is no difference in download speeds usually around 6mb per second, however a huge difference in upload speeds 1.5m in 4G and almost 6m in the lte area. Of course your mileage may vary
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SGS3 uses tmos HSDPA network?? not HSPA compatible??

i was just looking through the specs of this phone and noticed that it runs on HSDPA.... that said, is it true that we dont get HSPA+ speeds???
I dont understand why tmobile says they have HSPA+42 4g speed, and they sell us a phone thats not capable of that??
am i wrong here??? straighten me out!

Technically you will never get that 42mb speed... That's under perfect conditions.
The highest I got on 4G is 30mbps. And upload close to 3.
So I do think the s3 has hspa+
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HSPA = HSDPA + HSUPA
HSPA - High Speed Packet Access
U - Uplink
D - Downlink
Yes our phones are HSPA.
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DocHoliday77 said:
HSPA = HSDPA + HSUPA
HSPA - High Speed Packet Access
U - Uplink
D - Downlink
Yes our phones are HSPA.
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ok well heres my question and please dont try and convince me out.....
our phone says HSDPA......... the Nexus 4 says HSPA+21 ..... that said.. if i buy the nexus4 unlocked, will i still run on HSPA?? i dont want to buy this phone and be stuck on EDGE

from you saying that its the same thing, i should be fine??

joemagistro said:
from you saying that its the same thing, i should be fine??
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Yes it has the data bands compatible with tmobile. The galaxy nexus was the same way.
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ok because someone told me that its not the same band and i will be stuck on EDGE... thats good to know

Yes they are the same. HSPA, HSPA+21, HSPA+42 are all basically HSPA tech. Its just improved over time. HSDPA/HSUPA are just referring to one direction within the HSPA network.
HSDPA is the downlink connection, while HSUPA refers to the uplink. Up and down are separated like this because they proviide different speeds. Down is a lot faster than up.
Our phone, the T999 is capable of HSPA+42 speeds.
Check out my modem thread in the development section stickies. At the bottom of the 3rd post are links to some articles that may interest you.
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joemagistro said:
ok well heres my question and please dont try and convince me out.....
our phone says HSDPA......... the Nexus 4 says HSPA+21 ..... that said.. if i buy the nexus4 unlocked, will i still run on HSPA?? i dont want to buy this phone and be stuck on EDGE
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It's says that it works with T-Mobile right on the product page, and the radio supports the same frequencies as the S3.
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thank you all!

Also , Nexus 4 has been confirmed to have a 42mbs radio, not 21 can't wait!
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All new tmobile smartphones should support +42
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If we were stuck on edge we'd all throw our phones away.

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how turn of 4g

how do you guys turn off 4g

Both the battery working so good and long I would ask you this:
Why?
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just wanna test 3g of tmobile
i do have unlimited 4g

mrej201 said:
just wanna test 3g of tmobile
i do have unlimited 4g
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4G and 3G are not actually different for Tmobile.
Wikipedia article on Evolved HSPA
So then, the question is how to turn off DC hspa. Which is probably not accessible through the maintenance menus.
But for many real world value metrics I don't know what you would gain.

Get the app called phone info
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I think there's an app for that. I forgot what its called but I think the toggles are Edge or HSPA+ umts only
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Phone info
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I'm wondering if the OP came from Sprint? Sprint's 4G was a separate (battery sucking) radio that you could turn on and off and needed to in order to protect the battery usage.

4g on TMo isn't like LTE, it's not a separate modem to turn off like AT&T, VZW, or sprint. It's really a hopped up version of 3G. Your choices are 3G/4G or Edge.

mrchris1234 said:
I'm wondering if the OP came from Sprint? Sprint's 4G was a separate (battery sucking) radio that you could turn on and off and needed to in order to protect the battery usage.
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yea i did came from sprint that y i ask but thanx for the app guys

I occasionally see a G. Not sure what that is...
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DarthPiggie said:
I occasionally see a G. Not sure what that is...
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That is the 2G service.
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mrej201 said:
yea i did came from sprint that y i ask but thanx for the app guys
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On T-Mobile, there is no real differentiation between 3G and 4G. Both operate on the same spectrum. The only difference is the speeds. However, that is controlled, not by your phone, but by the tower you're connected to. It's easier to look at it as the same exact technology. For the purpose of this conversation, there is no more T-Mobile 3G. It's all 4G, or HSPA+, service now. The 3G brand has been retired in favor of the 4G moniker.
To put it all simply, 3G is the same as 4G on T-Mobile. To turn off 4G, you would drop down to 2G, or EDGE/GPRS, service.

cajunflavoredbob said:
On T-Mobile, there is no real differentiation between 3G and 4G. Both operate on the same spectrum. The only difference is the speeds. However, that is controlled, not by your phone, but by the tower you're connected to. It's easier to look at it as the same exact technology. For the purpose of this conversation, there is no more T-Mobile 3G. It's all 4G, or HSPA+, service now. The 3G brand has been retired in favor of the 4G moniker.
To put it all simply, 3G is the same as 4G on T-Mobile. To turn off 4G, you would drop down to 2G, or EDGE/GPRS, service.
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And if you still want to do it.....go to settings - more settings - mobile networks - network mode and you can select "GSM only".
Strangely enough....there are a couple areas around where i live that my phone will show a 4G connection and absolutely refuses to open anything. I've found that if i switch to the "GSM only" option in those areas that at least i can get it working... slowly, but better than nothing.
Had the same issue with my previous phone. (G2) weird phantom 4G zone. :-/
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