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I was getting ready to install my first ROM and wanted to make sure that I had everything ready to go. I searched but wasn't sure on a definitive answer.
I'm on a Droid Incredible, Rooted, Titanium Backup installed, ClockworkMod updated to 3.0.0.5 using ROM Manager. I created a CWM recovery and backed up both data and apps with Ti Backup. I planned on flashing to the Incredibly Re-Engineered ROM using ROM Manager. From what I understand I will flash the stock ROM off and it will install the new ROM. What I'm not sure about is how I get the backed up data/apps reinstalled after the new ROM installed. Also, does the ROM flashing delete all data on internal/SD memory or only the ROM data?
Sorry if this has been answered already. I've read everything I could find on rooting and installing new roms and still not sure on this last step.
Thanks,
It's not a good idea to restore data from your apps once you install a new Rom..... if you have backed them up with titanium just restore apps not the data......
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Will pictures, texts, contacts, etc all be flashed? Mainly trying to determine what I need to pull and what can stay on internal/sd card
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Pictures should be fine, as long as the SD card and EMMC don't get formatted. Texts however will all be deleted, as they are located in the system. I use SMS backup + from the market, it backs them up to GMail. Works perfectly.
For contacts, I would export them to the SD card (menu - export), but I always have all of mine sync to Google. That way they always auto restore when I flash ROM's.
But as always, I would definitely back up any important pictures you have anyway.
I have contacts synced to my Google account. I think I have a pretty good handle on how everything will react. Thanks for the help
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Also, you really should upgrade to CWM 3.0.0.8, in Rom Manager scroll down to all recoveries, and choose 3.0.0.8. 3.0.0.5 has some wiping issues that can cause a lot of problems. That way when you wipe, it actually wipes
Also, your not flashing the rom off, your flashing the new rom over the old one and that erases it
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ok. So after I do a data/cache/delvik I'll Flash from CWM and be good to go. Thanks for the 3.0.0.8 tip. got it taken care of as well.
Yep, your golden. Just curious, what rom are you flashing?
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Flashing a new Rom won't touch your SD card unless u specifically format SD. With cwm 3.x I usually wipe data/cache 2-3 times as there was an issue with it not wiping properly at one point. Supposedly its fixed but I like to err on the side of caution. With titanium I think its generally ok to restore data on the items in green but not any in red. I have yet to have issues doing things that way ymmv.
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I was going to try incredibly re-engineered. Looked like it was extremely stable and I like the sense calendar/social integration while being able to theme. Any recommendations for others to try?
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I've searched other threads but they were lacking so I thought Id try for the evo. I like many others am addicted to flashing roms. I make backups and restore and they complete fine. When I go to boot a restore it gets to the boot animation and just keeps cycling the boot animation. It seems to happen across different roms. I tried doing a complete factory restore with an pc36img re-rooted and found I'm still having the same issue. Any ideas? Thanks for the help.
You didn't make any changes to the file?
I chanaged to folder name, but this never used to be a problem. I use root explorer or plug in the phone usb mass storage, rename the folder that holds the backup. I don't usually have a problem. But it seems to be a constant problem now.
When you renamed did you put spaces or all together? Make sure there are no spaces.
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eeeeeeeeek said:
I chanaged to folder name, but this never used to be a problem. I use root explorer or plug in the phone usb mass storage, rename the folder that holds the backup. I don't usually have a problem. But it seems to be a constant problem now.
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re-rename them, but you can't use spaces. Periods, hyphens, and underscores are fine though.
Also remember to wipe cache and dalvik after restoring, and give it a good ten minutes to do the initial boot.
i just do simple rename like rom04, no spaces or dashes, it says it restores it, I don't know if I wipe the dalvick after the restore, I'll try that.
Were your backups made with the same recovery you're trying to restore them with?
Your post implies you're not using an evo, in which case I dunno what recovery you're using, and thus how to help troubleshoot. More info.
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I have an evo and all my backups and restores come from the same recovery which is amon-ra 2.3. I've tried formatting my sdcard and then restoring. Last night I did a restore and went to bed while it was booting, I woke up later in the night and the phone was dead. I'm beginning to wonder if there is something wrong in the phone. It's a replacement phone I got about three weeks ago, but I was able to do restores/backups that were fine. It just started all of a sudden that it won't boot after recovery says it restore complete. The phone has some speaker issues and every time and place or recieve a call it starts on speaker phone. Unless someone has other ideas. I did rename the file after the inital rename. No luck. Any other ideas, other then whats already been mentioned above?
are you trying to restore backups you made with your previous phone?? like copied them off the sd card to computer, got new phone, copied onto new phones sd card, and tried to restore?...if so thats not a good idea
No same phone, I got a replacement about 3 weeks ago, I did backups and restores with no issues. I didn't change anything or do anything different I would normally due. Its a new issue. The restore was made and restored from the same phone and the same sd card.
Didn't work door me either , I made a recovery and about 1 hr later tried to recover but for some reason it didn't work .
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Well, Insanity is repeating the same thing over and over expecting different results, needless to say I tried restoring again from a fresh restore of king coco. Low and behold it worked this time. Here's what I did
Full wipe including system, restore, wipe dalvick, reboot. It actually booted in like 4 minutes. This might be a localized incident, as you know I have to keep tempting fate and continue the insanity.....
Anyone got a fix for that ?
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I think the corruption occurs because of a mismatch in the caches after the restore vs when the backup was done.
That is, normally neither cache nor dalvik cache is wiped when a backup is performed. Depending on your setup with a2sd and possible other tweaks like moving the cache, some portions may get backed up.
So, two solutions.
1) do a cache/dalvik cache wipe before doing the backup
or
2) do a cache/dalvik cache wipe after doing the restore, but before the initial boot
Thx ;-)
I will make a new nand backup & gonna wipe the cache/dalvik before .
Will I still need to wipe after the restore?
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Thx ;-)
I will make a new nand backup & gonna wipe the cache/dalvik before .
Will I still need to wipe after the restore?
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I personally never wipe before or after making a backup/restore. But no, you don't need to wipe after restoring, since it restored the old cache.
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But no, you don't need to wipe after restoring, since it restored the old cache.
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Who backs up their cache?
What exactly do I need to back up using ra2.3 ?
Boot, system, data are checked when going into nand backup
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oranium said:
What exactly do I need to back up using ra2.3 ?
Boot, system, data are checked when going into nand backup
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It's good to have a couple backups with the 'wimax' included. That backs up your RSA keys, and includes that in the backup when you have that checked off. It's recommended to have a good backup of your wimax.img in a safe place, preferably on your pc somewhere. That way if you ever lose your RSA keys for 4g, you'll have a backup of them. Other than that, just the 3 that are checked is all that's necessary. You don't need to backup the wimax every time if you don't want to, as long as you have a good backup of them somehwere.
I saw that the final release of cm7 came out and I'm super excited for it! I've been running RC3 for awhile and it's been working fine, but there have been some issues that I would like to have fixed with the update.
My question is: Is there a way to update the rom without losing all of my data or having to do a full wipe?
Any help is appreciated. Thanks!
You wont need to do a full wipe, just download the ROM to your sd card, boot in to recovery and do a nandroid backup. Then select wipe cache. Once that has finished head to advanced and select wipe dalvik cache (some people say to do this some don't, I do) then flash the ROM.
You will only lose all your apps and setting if you select wipe data, you only need to do this if you are have serious issues that cant be fixed by any other means. Or if you changing to a completely different ROM.
And remember to do a nandroid before touching anything else in the recovery menu
That's it? Awesome! I know what I'll be doing tonight.
Or you can just do it from rom manager and not check the wipe data. I swear some of you just like taking the long way.
Always do a nandroid?No. Nandroid your original rom? YES. Nandroid custom rom? Only if you like it..but to do a nandroid every single time you flash new rom is ****
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Or you can just do it from rom manager and not check the wipe data. I swear some of you just like taking the long way.
Always do a nandroid?No. Nandroid your original rom? YES. Nandroid custom rom? Only if you like it..but to do a nandroid every single time you flash new rom is ****
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ROM Manager can some time cause issues when you flash directly from the app, Some people prefer to do it manually. Ok it might not be totally necessary to wipe the cache's between flashes but does really hurt?
And I resent you saying that doing a nandroid is "F'in Retarded" how frequently do we see people on these forums who have flashed something there not supposed and there most recent backup was weeks ago. It never hurts to do a nandroid it adds 5 minutes to the total time it takes flash something.
As some one who does do a nandroid every time I take your insult personally. And that sort of language is not appropriate in a forum where people of all ages can view.
LOL i don't even have a nandroid of my original ROM. I just got 1 image of RC4...
So I wanted to be 'better off safe than sorry', and I did a nandroid backup (using the latest CWM) before doing a CM7 RC3 -> CM7 Final non-full data wipe upgrade. I had a bunch of problems from the get go, and wanted to revert back to my RC3 backup as I didn't have time to fiddle with everything to get it tweaked from scratch...
However I can't for the life of me get Clockwork to recover my backup. It stops half way through and I'm left sitting at the main orange menu with no confirmation or details on what happened.
Any thoughts?
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Glad its not just be with this mentality. Better to be safe than sorry. I haven't had to start from scratch since the first nightly, because I all ways have a recent nandroid, some times things do go wrong.
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I did the backup (2 actually) and just installed the update. Everything seems totally fine so far and I'm really happy with it! Seriously stepping up to cm7 has made my G2 go from a decent phone with a nice keyboard to a flipping fantastic phone!
Many thanks!
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Your definition of *** seems to be basically the opposite of mine. What if an update breaks something (especially if you are cutting corners by not wiping or by using ROM manager) if you don't have a nandroid of your phone before you flashed that update you are screwed, you will need to start over from scratch.
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Yeah, I agree with you completely. Doing a nandroid takes 5 minutes. Then later you can just move it to your desktop computer, to not take up space on your SD card. I have 3 TB of storage on my desktop, so no worries about saving as many nandroid backups as I feel like.
I've seen random issues pop up on my phone for no obvious reason, with no clear fix. But reverting to a nandroid cleared it up.
Really no reason NOT to do it.
I have used MIUI since June with no problems at all, I then tried to install the 9.30 update. It didn't install right even though MD5 matched (stuck on the white HTC Incredible screen). I tried restoring to my backup and after rebooting nothing happened. It tries going to the boot animation but doesn't, just goes to a black screen. I've let it sit for an hour there and nothing happens. I tried resolving this on the MIUI.us forums, but no responses so far.
At that point I tried cm7, it worked but was really glitchy and bootlooping. cm6 was next, and it was working mostly but didn't seem stable to run. I then tried going back to MIUI all of them, 8.19, 9.2, and 9.9 as well as the 9.30, did not install.
I am now running the rooted stock rom and it seems to be running fine these past two weeks (aside from the fact it's sense). Over the weekend I tried, again, to install MIUI and restore a backup but it's still not working. And to make matters worse cm6 and 7 are no longer running.
I have also tried all of the above with CWM 3.0.0.8, CWM 5.0.0.2, and Amon_RA 3.02 (no restore to test) and have had the same issues across all recoveries.
It really seems like my phone has become allergic to any AOSP rom, I haven't tried other sense roms but I'm expecting them to work since the rooted stock rom has both installed and restored with no issues.
I have not tried going back to bone-stock and then re-rooting as that would be a pain. But if it is my only option to get back to MIUI then I will give it a shot.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Before you flash a ROM do you:
Clear data: Wipe user data/factory reset
Mounts and Storage - format /system, format /boot, format /data, format /cache
Advanced - Wipe Dalvik
Then flash the ROM?
Before a new rom (not btwn miui updates) I normally wipe data/factory reset and wipe dalvik. But I don't do anything in mounts and storage unless I need to mount usb storage.
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I would back up your current working ROM, try what I mentioned above, and then try flashing MIUI again.
In Mounts and Storage, you'll have the option to format emmc, and sd card too. Just make sure you ARE NOT selecting those items, as obviously you want those intact. If you follow the instruction above, you should be fine.
Got proper HBOOT version?
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When I get home I will try doing everything suggested.
My hboot is 92 I believe.
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Before you flash a ROM do you:
Clear data: Wipe user data/factory reset
Mounts and Storage - format /system, format /boot, format /data, format /cache
Advanced - Wipe Dalvik
Then flash the ROM?
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Ok, I did all of the above and still have no luck in installing MIUI or restoring a backup.
Also, I didn't mention this in the first post. When I try and boot from a restored MIUI and it tries to load the boot animation I can still reset the phone with the 3-finger salute, so the phone is still doing something just not what it's supposed to. I did try flashing another boot screen incase there was something wrong with the backup, but that didn't work.
Any other ideas out there?
Tried a different sd? Copy and paste the contents of sd to pc, reformat sd fat32, copy contents back to sd, see if issue persists.
If reformatted native sd doesn't help, perhaps try another.
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I just tried both a different sd card as well as reformatting my current one, in both cases I can't install MIUI nor CM6.
Stumped here... Only other thing I can think to try is a Sense ROM on either/both sd's to see what boots and runs without issue.
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As I mentioned already I'm currently running the rooted stock gb rom, which is sense. I can try another sense rom just for fun.
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Yep, apologies. Speculation on my part:
Bad sd. AOSP interacts with sd on boot and during normal use, device acts up only with AOSP, hence bad sd.
Also, when flashing the AOSP ROM on newly formatted sd, wipe of mounts (data, cache, boot, and system) as well as factory reset, cache partition, and dalvik, all from recovery were successful?
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So sense does not interact with sd the same way as aosp? What could be the problem with the sd card that allows it to do everything but allow it to boot aosp roms (especially since I have tried 2 different ones) ?
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AOSP calls on and even interacts the sd during boot, as well as during normal use. If your device is only wonky running AOSP, I'd suspect the sd, provided a complete wipe is done and the cwm, radio, and HBOOT are what's called for by the AOSP ROM.
Assume nothing restored to fresh aosp install, correct?
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Yeah, a restore or a fresh install has problems. If I install and then remove the sd card would it possibly boot then?
I'm still confused as to how the sd card can do everything else that it's supposed to but not talk to an aosp rom.
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AOSP uses the sd to operate, Sense does not.
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What I still don't understand then, if it is the SD card, why do I still have the problem with a different sd card?
Is it possible that it is hardware related, or something else, with the phone? I am able to read and write to the SD card when operating the phone, but the issue only appears to happen at boot.
This weekend I may try and unroot and then reroot, just incase some important files got corrupted. as the unroot would replace nearly everything it should fix the problem if it isn't hardware... I'm hoping.
Stumped... Hard to say.
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Well, I got tired of sense so I flashed the RUU, reloaded CWM 5.0.0.2 and restored my old rom... it worked. So now I'm fixed, yay.
Thanks for helping me troubleshoot it.
Alright guys, this thing is driving me nuts. I've been using Fresh EVO 4.3.3 for a while now and I've been backing up and restoring since I first got my EVO so I've done this countless times. For whatever reason, as of late, when I restore a Nandroid backup using Amon RA 2.3 the recovery completes, I reboot back into the ROM and I'm missing all sorts of elements. I'm in the habit of creating a baseline Nandroid of my freshly installed rom and a few updates so i don't have to update the living hell out of all my apps. Lately, however, I get back into the ROM after Nandroid and I'm missing apps namely the Market app as well as titanium backup and a few other no name apps.
It wouldn't be a big deal except that well I have to run around installing random APK's to get a complete recovery state essentially putting myself back to a baseline image. I have to reinstall the vending.apk back into the system/app folder then it FC's a bunch of times before it behaves, then I have to do a full titanium backup cause all my other apps are still missing.
I've done a complete RUU back to 4.54, wiped all caches, reinstalled amon ra, reinstall fresh from base, can't quite figure this one out. I usually restore any nandroid backups I make right after backing one up to ensure the backup is good. The FIRST backup I restore works like a charm....after that it never restores correctly. I backup the default options plus wimax and have even added the android secure data to see if that fixes it, but no go. Any one have any ideas?
Do you back up sd-ext?
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I normally don't, because I normally don't move any apps 2 SD till AFTER I come back from a recovery. So essentially everything is ON the phone, then I nandroid backup...then when I recover it...I move everything that can be put on the SD card over there to free up space.
I thought of this, but then realized that the MARKET can't be put on the SD card...so why would IT not be there?
But more and more time have it baked in. Is your card partitioned, if so you rom might utilize the ext.
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You know, now that you mention it I did partition my SD card using hipkats guide for synergy roms. I wonder if that has something to do with it. So what do you recommend? for me to backup my SD-EXT along with the defaults and wimax for my nandroid backups?
Yes that should take care of it.
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right on, I'll give that a shot right now. I was bored waiting for responses earlier so I'm going through a complete restore, wipe, and recover of all data then I'll give what you mentioned a shot. Thanks headed your way! I appreciate it!
Just to maintain some level of closure here...I went ahead and included the sd-ext in my nandroid backup on Amon-Ra...and it appears to be back to normal. haha never thought of that but thanks again for the help ThickLizard...I appreciate it!