So... after flashing MikG v3.0 and trying it out for a day (not that this is related to mikg rom), I went back to Synergy RLS1. EVO FC's android processes now. Media, Market vendor, or Mail. Just whichever it feels like FCing.
I've wiped all data, cleared my SD card of ghost folders, Flashed and reflashed. Still doing it. Also, I notice that my gallery and music apps take forever to load the mp3s and pics now possibly an SD read error? I've been running Synergy since June and not had this problem before.
Any ideas?
I don't know of any other options, unless it is an app that is causing all this (which I have no new apps that I haven't had in the last month(s))
Has this happened before to anyone >_>?
VERY Annoying. Can't use the phone for constant !FORCE CLOSE! windows
Did u restore any app data from backing up between roms?
-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
Did u restore any app data from backing up between roms?
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Nope. Not unless it has done it natively. Though, all my apps do download automatically after flashing Synergy.
How might I clear this?
I have Titatnium back up, though I don't use it. And astro, but I don't use the backup features on it either.
In titanium when u choose batch restore select app only, try reflashing fresh don't restore from Google restore apps only thru tibu and see if you still get the FC issue, I'm not 100% sure but I think Google adds app data with the backup and some apps data cause issues between roms I've had issues both from sense to sense and from sense to aosp or vice versa from app data causing errors in processes and force closing random apps or processes
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Ok, so to me this program seems great - backs up pretty much EVERYTHING for me, so that if I flash and wipe a new rom, it restores everything to a usable level. Now my issue is I can't understand what people mean when they say you might as well not wipe at all. If you can't use TB to restore after a wipe, what is the point of using TB at all???
Is there a way to select parts that are "ok" to restore after a wipe? or is TB pretty much pointless?
Thanks
Read this it will help explain how TB can mess with your ROM.
http://geekfor.me/faq/why-you-shouldnt-be-using/
P_Dub_S said:
Read this it will help explain how TB can mess with your ROM.
http://geekfor.me/faq/why-you-shouldnt-be-using/
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Thanks I read that but his post didn't really make it clear for me:
problem is that when a user makes the backup on one rom/build/version and imports it on another
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What exactly does this mean? I am running CM6 nightlies. Should it be wiped and not restored via TB each time? What about going from RC1 to RC2?
If the situation is such that you can restore via TB, then why not just flash the new one and skip wiping altogether?
Well one nice thing about Cm rom's is you can have google backup all the programs you download from the Market so no need for TB there. Where the problems can lie with TB is the SQLlite database files when restoring your user settings. If something has changed from rom versions and you restore your old sqllite settings and now its missing some information thats needed for the newer version rom it can cause problems like force closes or reboots.
For nightly's I just upgrade without a wipe. If I do have any quirks then I try a wipe which usually fixes whatever quirk I'm having.
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Well one nice thing about Cm rom's is you can have google backup all the programs you download from the Market so no need for TB there. Where the problems can lie with TB is the SQLlite database files when restoring your user settings. If something has changed from rom versions and you restore your old sqllite settings and now its missing some information thats needed for the newer version rom it can cause problems like force closes or reboots.
For nightly's I just upgrade without a wipe. If I do have any quirks then I try a wipe which usually fixes whatever quirk I'm having.
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yeah, I've been skipping the wipe unless there is a quirk.
So basically it sounds like TB is a total waste of time if you are running CM6? Sorry... just hard for me to understand why people love the program so much if there is no real application for it? Or is it just outdated by the backing up with Google?
it's like this - TB allows you to backup apps and settings. You may want to use this in addition to the backup that google provides - what if you find a great app, but its removed from the market? I don't think that the google backup will help you then - it will only restore what's currently in the market (disclaimer - I don't use CM6, so I'm not 100% on that).
The waste of time thing comes into play with people who have issues with a rom, so they re-flash the rom and restore apps and settings with TB. It might have been some of the settings (that were just restored with TB) that were causing the issues in the first place.
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it's like this - TB allows you to backup apps and settings. You may want to use this in addition to the backup that google provides - what if you find a great app, but its removed from the market? I don't think that the google backup will help you then - it will only restore what's currently in the market (disclaimer - I don't use CM6, so I'm not 100% on that).
The waste of time thing comes into play with people who have issues with a rom, so they re-flash the rom and restore apps and settings with TB. It might have been some of the settings (that were just restored with TB) that were causing the issues in the first place.
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^what he said
I LOVE TB but I use it to restore my apps and their data ONLY, I do not use it to restore system data.
I think with tb....when you restore your apps you have the choice to restore the apps with out the user data. Also you can choose to wipe them of data Before you restore.
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berardi said:
yeah, I've been skipping the wipe unless there is a quirk.
So basically it sounds like TB is a total waste of time if you are running CM6? Sorry... just hard for me to understand why people love the program so much if there is no real application for it? Or is it just outdated by the backing up with Google?
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Unlike Google's backup, TB backs up your /data/data folder, not just the APK's from your market-downloaded applications.
In other words, it backs up your application data, your apps you installed manually/downloaded, and all of your settings, such as Bluetooth name and pairings, WiFi networks (and security settings), etc.
My rule of thumb is, if going from one build to another (ie, Stock to CM6, etc.) then do NOT restore any system settings/apps. Just do a backup of YOUR apps, as-is, move over to the new ROM, restore apps and their settings, then go to the Market and update everything. Simple as that, and you shouldn't get any errors.
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it's like this - TB allows you to backup apps and settings. You may want to use this in addition to the backup that google provides - what if you find a great app, but its removed from the market? I don't think that the google backup will help you then - it will only restore what's currently in the market (disclaimer - I don't use CM6, so I'm not 100% on that).
The waste of time thing comes into play with people who have issues with a rom, so they re-flash the rom and restore apps and settings with TB. It might have been some of the settings (that were just restored with TB) that were causing the issues in the first place.
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Thanks that definitely helps. Market-removed apps seems like a good reason to have it. (I already bought it just trying to determine how to use it anyways)
Ok so is it fair enough to say it has a relatively "niche" market with the addition of market backups? I hate to be a bull in the ChinaShop but it seems like people really tip toe around the idea of TB being outdated by market backups. I get the general idea of what you guys are saying but I'm trying to decide what I want to do in personal practice.
I don't think I've experienced any issues but who knows if I've had less than optimal performance because of restoring previous settings. Are there any "safe" items that can be backed up and restored or is nothing really "safe" they all have entries in sqlite database that might be duplicated?
Thanks again guys for humoring me
I am a newbie when it comes to posting. I always use xda with the search function only when I have problems, but I can't find a working solution that works for me in the forums. this is my first time ever posting.
I am running CM6 stable with snap7.5 kernel & gapps-hdpi-20100817 and my GPS used to work like a charm but now it hangs on finding gps for a while now and it doesn't take me to route. I noticed a lot of people running CM6 is having the same problem, but none of the fixes work for me. I have tried wipe cache dalvik twice, then re-flashing newest gapps, and tried numerous different kernels, including stock CM6 kernel.
Also, one of the biggest annoyances is the missing apps in the market. I paid for apps like Skydroid and so on, and after flashing official CM6 stable titanium back wont restore, even just the app by itself. I cleared data & cache from market and did all fixes online, but still no luck. I can't even find it on the market to re purchase it. Thats when I started to notice there are a lot of apps that doesn't show up in my market search. I can find the apps like Angry Birds in Appbrian, but when i try to install it from my phone and when it brings me to the market place to install, it wont find it. If anyone can help me with these problems that would help me out so much, and put an end to my searching.
Not sure why.. but if you do titanium backup or your apps it stores then on the SD card to reinstall. Never have to go through market again. If you have a band backup to where you had those apps install it and do a apps backup then go to the nand backup of cm6 and install them through titanium
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Not sure why.. but if you do titanium backup or your apps it stores then on the SD card to reinstall. Never have to go through market again. If you have a band backup to where you had those apps install it and do a apps backup then go to the nand backup of cm6 and install them through titanium
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Actually I have tried that already too, I went back to a nand that i had all these apps working and then went back to CM6 and titanium backup still said unsuccessful installation. first time its happened but it was unsuccessful with a lot of apps.
I've been running ACS 1.2 Frozen for a while, with the Genocide kernel and LauncherPro. I've been planning to update to an EI22 ROM for a while, but before I started messing around I wanted to backup what I have now.
So I powered down, booted up into CWM (purple), and did a backup. Then when I restarted, all I got were FCs. The really aggravating thing is that LauncherPro FCs so I can't really get to anything else.
All I did was run a backup! Anyone else seen this? Got any ideas on how to get stability back?
Luckily the backup ran successfully, but if this is what I get just from RUNNING a backup, I don't have a lot of confidence that I'd be stable after RESTORING a backup.
Something happened, may have been related to journaling and the shut down. Did you have journaling enabled? You can do a factory data reset to clear the errors and try an advanced data restore from the nand but if the errors happened before the backup started then it is corrupted too. Do you have any other backups? Titanium? If you clear the errors enough to get into settings, clear data in your launcher and Google Service Framework, then any other app that is FCing.
I did have journaling enabled, yes. I wasn't getting any errors before the backup, but if the shutdown caused them, well I'm a bit stuck. No recent Titanium backups unfortunately.
Thanks for the things to try!
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I did have journaling enabled, yes. I wasn't getting any errors before the backup, but if the shutdown caused them, well I'm a bit stuck. No recent Titanium backups unfortunately.
Thanks for the things to try!
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At that point you got nothing to lose. If the restore has the FCs too then Factory Data reset will nuke the data errors, you will lose 3rd party apps, have to set up email again, and your contacts (stored on Google) will be restored as well as the list of apps downloaded from the market (eventually the list will be populated). But your phone will be usable again.
In case you havent tried it, wipe cache and dalvic from CWM. I would try that before wiping everything.
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So this is interesting -- it seems like something about my SD card has gotten busted in the backup.
I did a restore of the backup I made, it's identical to where I was at after the backup, but when I hit Home it asked me to choose LauncherPro or TWLauncher. Choosing TWLauncher at least gets me some functionality.
So I did that and noticed that NONE of the apps on my SD card show up anymore. A clue towards resolution without full wipe?
Yup, after more investigation I'm sure of it. Running the CWM backup broke all the apps stored on my SD card. I didn't make any changes other than running the backup, and after restarting all those apps no longer show up.
Backup your sd card on a computer, format it in the phone and restore. That should make it work again. Then you will have to reinstall the apps that were there. Sometimes launchers take more than 5 minutes to reload apps on the sd card. Did you wait long enough?
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I've tried a couple of backup programs to restore all my data and apps when switching between roms and running into problems. I still haven't gotten one backup program to work yet.
I'm currently on ICS from the Skyrocket ported version I think. I've used TB and Backup to backup all my data and apps.
Luckily I've completely backed everything up using CWR.
Tried switching to Juggernaut rom and used the programs to restore all the data and apps and both programs ran into errors and I couldn't bring back any of my personal stuff.
I do also have a Google account so yes my contacts, calender, etc is backed up that way but it doesn't do the SMS, logs, etc.
I will say it, yes I have downloaded apps that aren't paid for but I doubt that's the issue that it's not working right for restoring. Never had issues with this on my iPhone before switching to my Galaxy S2 T-Mobile.
Any help as to why and how to get some app to work properly so I can switch Roms. This one sucks really bad IMO. There's no tethering, some apps don't work which I can't see anything not working on the S2, and it crashes too much for my liking.
Try titanium backup but remember. If you wipe your SD and internal memory it will be gone.
It could be some apps aren't compatible but all my apps worked.
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I would suggest giving ROM Toolbox a shot... although I have never had any issues using Titanium Backup for what you are trying to accomplish. It sounds like something was corrupted during the initial backup process and that is what is preventing the restoration.
Hello all,
I am thinking of flashing another rom to my Desire (currently have: Cool3D Aces v5 - but there's a lot of lag).
I want to keep some of my applications with their settings and data..in example, handcent (messages, settings), poweramp (settings), ColorNote notes, any.Do notes and etc..
Which program will help me do that?
I think titanium backup might be perfect for my needs. After flashing the new rom, can I restore each one of these apps at the exact state they were?
Am I going to experience any force-closes?
Thank you for your time!
You won't have FC's but depending on rom you might get slowdowns. It is recommended to restore just apps without data.
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there are several apps available which do the same thing, though i've never had a problem backing up and restoring apps with titanium
to restore them in the exact state, you have to restore app + data (again i've not had a problem with this). it should restore all your preferences, and also useful for things like games so you save your progress :victory:...
if this doesn't work, as above, just restore the app only, set everything else up manually (though this is not much different from downloading the app from scratch, sort of defeating the purpose of titanium)
i think titanium can now backup and restore sms as well, though not tried it. handcent may have the feature built in too.
do not restore system data with titanium, as it's very likely incompatible between roms, and that would cause FC's!
(backup your contacts through google if you haven't already)
I never had a problem in restoring user apps alongwith data. Saved me loads of homework everytime. If FC happens you can always clear that app data.
If you are moving from a gb rom to ICS or Jelly and restore app data it can cause issues. Moving from one gb rom to another is usually fine. I use my backup pro as I prefer it over titanium.
Thank you all for your replies!
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You won't have FC's but depending on rom you might get slowdowns. It is recommended to restore just apps without data.
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Why slowdowns? :S
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there are several apps available which do the same thing, though i've never had a problem backing up and restoring apps with titanium
to restore them in the exact state, you have to restore app + data (again i've not had a problem with this). it should restore all your preferences, and also useful for things like games so you save your progress :victory:...
if this doesn't work, as above, just restore the app only, set everything else up manually (though this is not much different from downloading the app from scratch, sort of defeating the purpose of titanium)
i think titanium can now backup and restore sms as well, though not tried it. handcent may have the feature built in too.
do not restore system data with titanium, as it's very likely incompatible between roms, and that would cause FC's!
(backup your contacts through google if you haven't already)
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For sms I am using sms backup and restore (great app!). For handcent what I really care is to save my customizations to the interface, like theme, fonts, etc..
What does system data contain? (an example?)
I am usually backing them up by exporting them to the sd as .vcf..
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I never had a problem in restoring user apps alongwith data. Saved me loads of homework everytime. If FC happens you can always clear that app data.
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Great! So the data is making problems? :S
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If you are moving from a gb rom to ICS or Jelly and restore app data it can cause issues. Moving from one gb rom to another is usually fine. I use my backup pro as I prefer it over titanium.
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Good thank you!
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Is there going to be any problem as the rom I am using has A2SD functionality?
I just saw in this thread that there is also a "Dalvik.Cache To SD-EXT"..should I use it for now, to temporarily get more space?
Apparently davik on sd is a bit slower. I have had davlik on sd on several different roms and can honestly say I have never noticed a slowdown so go for it if you need the space.
You should be fine restoring if using A2SD. As mentioned earlier by handy if you get probs you might have to clear your app data. Worst case uninstall the problem app and re-install. If you get force close issues after restoring apps try fix_permissions.
I've got FCs when I restore a bunch of apps or all my apps with Titanium. My solution was to remember what apps did FC and restore them one by one with Titanium, et voila no more FCs
Don't know why this happens, but as long as I now know a solution for this I am quite happy