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I have seen a number press releases featuring a combo micro sd nfc card. Does anyone know where you can actually buy one?
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coulda sworn they were all proof of concept sorta projects at the moment, if you find some for sale I'd also be interested!
DarkRyoushii said:
coulda sworn they were all proof of concept sorta projects at the moment, if you find some for sale I'd also be interested!
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are you sure the atrix can even utilize NFC? wouldn't think so
holtenc said:
are you sure the atrix can even utilize NFC? wouldn't think so
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I believe that's what the card would do, add the feature.
holtenc said:
are you sure the atrix can even utilize NFC? wouldn't think so
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Atrix can utilize many things, don't worry.
The software would have to be written too. A driver.
Does that near there is some kind of sdio slot?
I found several but they were WAY too pricy...
Hi,
I contacted Netcom the manufacturer and have gotten virtually nothing from them. I contacted 'Tyfone' and they wanted $10,000 for a android developers kit. Then I tried 'Device Fidelity' and they wanted $999 for a android developers kit. Then I tried 'Logomotion' and they were only interested if I was some big bank or user that would buy lots and lots of product for payment systems. I also tried 'SpecTec' but their product seems to be possible vapor ware. In short if you are not doing payment systems or are not loaded then you are out of luck. I am amazed that no one seems interested in the huge potential for this technology beside payment systems.
Chuck
Maybe NFC as an accesory: http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/usb/adk.html
2.3.4 is compatibile with ADK
But module would be quiete big...
According to nfcworld.com/2011/09/23/310148/tyfones-nfc-on-microsd-technology-to-go-into-volume-production, "Tyfone’s NFC-on-microSD technology to go into volume production", from September 2011:
The US NFC specialist has signed a manufacturing and distribution deal with Taiwan's AboMem technology that will see the company's SideTap NFC-enabled microSD device become widely available for the first time.
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Companies wishing to deploy SideTap microSD secure element solutions will be able to purchase devices directly from AboMem, while working with Tyfone on TSM software integration for identity provisioning and implementation of mobility services.
The deal also includes a distribution agreement that will see SideTap microSD cards — which include the necessary NFC circuitry and antenna, a secure element, and memory — being made available to consumers throughout China via AboMem's existing distribution network.
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So still no cigar, I guess.
I'm not even going to worry about NFC until they show up at Wal-Mart. That's when they will explode. Until then they're a novelty that only works in very few select places, kinda like Windows.
Fashionable and high quality for Samsung i9100
Special Card Slot design. Easily fits 2 credit card size items of your choice Perfectly fits i9100 Complete access to all control buttons without removing the case
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ID-Credit-C...=170714225140&ps=63&clkid=4263587187406190815
So if someone is to steal your phone, he gets your credit card in a handy to-go package.
Sweet, want some of that in my life.
good point
but on the other hand becoz u put cc there u gonna be more careful?
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good point
but on the other hand becoz u put cc there u gonna be more careful?
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Doesn't matter how careful you are, if you lose it, it's still lost.
Until someone finds it and maxes out your creditcard.
I'd be keen on doing that with my NFC cashcard though, would be good to swipe my phone at stores to pay for stuff.
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So if someone is to steal your phone, he gets your credit card in a handy to-go package.
Sweet, want some of that in my life.
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Special Card Slot design. Easily fits 2 credit card size items of your choice
I had one of these for my HD2 for years (well, one year..) and I loved it! To answer the question, it did make me feel everything was safer because I'm always aware of where my phone is. I'm tempted to get one for my sgs.
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Nice range of colours for a case and every man to his own but ...Credit cards together with your phone...really? By next year, I predict there will be a side pouch on tablets for a passport, drivers license and credit cards. Imagine forgetting that in the back of a cab!
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just ordered one and waiting for it to arrive...
useful for me as i do not intend to put a credit card in it, but my tap-to-pay flash card when taking public transport
i have the sinking feeling it will not fit the 2000mah battery though
Dang-it someone's nicked my credit cards!!
Better call the company and get them cancelled........
Doh!
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Doesn't matter how careful you are, if you lose it, it's still lost.
Until someone finds it and maxes out your creditcard.
I'd be keen on doing that with my NFC cashcard though, would be good to swipe my phone at stores to pay for stuff.
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That's specifically what this case was designed for. Octopus/Felica/etc. The "credit card" was someone making stuff up to try to sell it in places where contactless cards are not the norm.
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That's specifically what this case was designed for. Octopus/Felica/etc. The "credit card" was someone making stuff up to try to sell it in places where contactless cards are not the norm.
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Just to the point like for public transport in Holland and France they use NFC transport payment cards..
Still it does not matter people tend to level the phones, wallets , passport in public places on a daily bases. So stop going on about credit card in this case if you feel to put your credit cards in the so be it...
I have one of these. I use it to keep my business cards in. Also that means if I lose it the person who finds it has my contact details.
people who put credit cards in it though are grade A clowns though.
Could be very useful to put my ID card in that we have to touch against pads to open doors...
On the other hand, I like my phone naked
Thats quite cool, I'm looking for something similar to put my Oyster card in.
oyster card is a rfid card used to get thought barriers on London Underground.
I don't really see a problem with putting a credit card in it,I have more chance of losing the card on its own than loosing the phone with the card in it.
I thought of getting one of these: http://www.amazon.co.uk/GADGET-SAMS...?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1324822612&sr=1-14 but I hate think having to open it to use the phone would piss me of quickly
check this: http://www.ebay.at/sch/easecase/m.h...&_odkw=&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3911.c0.m270.l1313
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So if someone is to steal your phone, he gets your credit card in a handy to-go package.
Sweet, want some of that in my life.
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That's exactly what I came to think of first too !!
Perfect design for pickpockets
i have been searching for something simular while in korea. i found this but it's a bit pricy
http://list.gmarket.com.sg/item/TANGRAM-SMART-CASE-FOR-SAMSUNG/404816819
it has as an extra that u don't have to remove the card in order to take pictures.
On the ebay auction from the OP it says that it might fit the AT&T version. Has anyone tried it on the i777? I'm very curious, this is exactly what I'm looking for. I could completely eliminate my wallet on most days. Its on sale for $2.99 for 2 more days, so I may just try it anyway.
I bought it for $3 to try on my AT&T S2. I'll let you know how it is whenever I get it.
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just ordered one and waiting for it to arrive...
useful for me as i do not intend to put a credit card in it, but my tap-to-pay flash card when taking public transport
i have the sinking feeling it will not fit the 2000mah battery though
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I'd have to agree, going to get one for my oyster transport card as I always have my phone handy so it makes sense.
Also I've never lost or had my phone stolen in 10 years but I've lost credit cards (and wallets) in the past so for me it's probably a safer option!
I want to know if its possible to read my contactless work ID card with my phone and then use the phone as my ID by tapping it to the reader.
I don't know if this is even possible and my question isnt about the Nexus as much as it is about My ID card, but if anyone can help me figure out what kind of ID card I have and how that would or wouldnt work with the hardware in the Nexus, I'd appreciate it.
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There is some sort of chip in your ID or is just a bar code you're trying to scan?
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There is some sort of chip in your ID or is just a bar code you're trying to scan?
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Some sort of chip. I tap the card to the reader in the elevator and at the front door to the office.
I don't even need to tap the card directly, I keep the card in my wallet and tap my wallet to the reader and it picks it up fine.
Let me know if I can provide any more info.
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I can't think of anyway to extract the information from the chip, but you could always cut the chip out and tape it inside the battery door. I wouldn't think anything would interfere with the chip, but I guess would might need to have an undamaged ID card.
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I can't think of anyway to extract the information from the chip, but you could always cut the chip out and tape it inside the battery door. I wouldn't think anything would interfere with the chip, but I guess would might need to have an undamaged ID card.
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Yeah, that wouldn't work, it doubles as a picture ID as well so I would need to keep it undamaged.
I've seen apps that read and store data when tapped with a credit card, so I was hoping someone would be able to provide similar info for how to do it with an ID card. I don't know enough about the different NFC and RFID technologies and what the nexus is capable of. Was hoping someone on here might be able to help.
Check out this thread from a few months ago. People came to the conclusion that it isn't possible.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1368907
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Yeah, that wouldn't work, it doubles as a picture ID as well so I would need to keep it undamaged.
I've seen apps that read and store data when tapped with a credit card, so I was hoping someone would be able to provide similar info for how to do it with an ID card. I don't know enough about the different NFC and RFID technologies and what the nexus is capable of. Was hoping someone on here might be able to help.
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From what I understand, data that's on most RFID cards is encrypted and the NFC antenna on the Galaxy Nexus (and Nexus S) is not currently capable of interpreting the data. It certainly seems that the possibility is there though seeing as how they usually operate on the 13.56 MHz frequency.
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Check out this thread from a few months ago. People came to the conclusion that it isn't possible.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1368907
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Thanks, that's a big help...indeed doesn't seem possible, at least not yet.
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Thanks, that's a big help...indeed doesn't seem possible, at least not yet.
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I posted this on another thread, but I think it is worth it here also. HID is beta testing using NFC technology for card access with Blackberry devices. Youtube HID Global Pilot Arizona State. NFC uses 13.56Mhz frequency. The HID iClass readers should work ONCE HID gives the customer the ability to get the software used to tether the phone to your computer and connect to the "secure" part of the Android OS and create a credential. It is coming. Just waiting on HID Global to make it happen.
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I posted this on another thread, but I think it is worth it here also. HID is beta testing using NFC technology for card access with Blackberry devices. Youtube HID Global Pilot Arizona State. NFC uses 13.56Mhz frequency. The HID iClass readers should work ONCE HID gives the customer the ability to get the software used to tether the phone to your computer and connect to the "secure" part of the Android OS and create a credential. It is coming. Just waiting on HID Global to make it happen.
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Thanks, cool video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VqnOiA20wg) for those that don't want to search.
I hope that will become available for the rest of us at some point.
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Thanks, cool video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VqnOiA20wg) for those that don't want to search.
I hope that will become available for the rest of us at some point.
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Glad it helped. Hit me up on the thanks meter if you don't mind. I'm trying to get some credibility here.
I was wondering if you can put in NFC into your phone like open it up and install the chip or whatever. Or like be able to plug it on to your phone thru the charger port. I also heard that SD-cards that can connect to wifi can that apply with NFC. if my question is stupid and ignorant feel free to say so. I dont want to impose or be a stupid noob.
Thank you.
I have a Inspire 4g (rooted)
P.s I think this is the wrong thread, I AM SOOOOO SORRY IF IT IS.
I dont usually post stuff.
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I was wondering if you can put in NFC into your phone like open it up and install the chip or whatever. Or like be able to plug it on to your phone thru the charger port. I also heard that SD-cards that can connect to wifi can that apply with NFC. if my question is stupid and ignorant feel free to say so. I dont want to impose or be a stupid noob.
Thank you.
I have a Inspire 4g (rooted)
P.s I think this is the wrong thread, I AM SOOOOO SORRY IF IT IS.
I dont usually post stuff.
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No, you can't. There are some memory cards with integrated NFC, but they're very low storage capacity (1 or 2GB).
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No, you can't. There are some memory cards with integrated NFC, but they're very low storage capacity (1 or 2GB).
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There are also NFC SIM cards... But I don't think they are commercially available. Yet.
IT will be possible..
I think they have magnets abouts the size of a credit card or smaller that will stick to the back of your phone.
I havent had a device with NFC yet, but it may be a must-have for my next device.
you wont be able to install it via the micro usb or via the microchip on the pcb but the memory cards have a look here http://www.moneto.me/faq
I have nfc on my xperia s but no where in the uk has it installed for payments yet..
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I have nfc on my xperia s but no where in the uk has it installed for payments yet..
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I think that UK is going to accelerate the implantation on the occasion of the Olympics.
Surely, a requirement for my next device will be leading NFC.
Hardware issue , i dont think this possible.
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I think they have magnets abouts the size of a credit card or smaller that will stick to the back of your phone.
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Yep, Barclays did that !
http://www.psfk.com/2012/04/barclays-nfc-sticker-turns-your-mobile-phone-into-a-credit-card.html
Just have to wait for other banks to jump in Barclays footsteps
Then, no need for Phone with embedded NFC, or SIM with NFC, ... !
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I have nfc on my xperia s but no where in the uk has it installed for payments yet..
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Starbucks does and so do a number of Mastercard chip and pin machines just there is no payment app available in the uk yet. It was ment to be out for the Olympics but read that it was delayed
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This is a cool feature but as a must-have for a phone? I don't know...
NFC is Near Field Communication right?
Thought it could be used for bluetooth alternative also.
(like phone to phone etc....)
Would love to have, but Desire S doesnt have it.
just wondering, whats the good side of NFC? i only see that as a battery drainer..
Even if you managed to add an NFC radio to your phone, you won't get it to work with google wallet due to the lack of a so called "secure element" which secures the transactions.
http://translate.google.com/transla...overca-presenta-in-italia-la-sua-sim-nfc-347/
They're going to implement that into SIM cards, many (most?) phones have one. Don't know about Google compatibility though, they talk about Mastercard standards.
After reading about NFC sim cards a few months ago I asked T mobile(UK) if they are going to be getting NFC sim cards any time soon, and the guy behind the till looked at me as if I was on crack
IMHO, the best implementation for this on a phone that does not have NFC pre-installed would be from the battery. It requires a hard connection to the circuitry to be powered...the easiest way to do that would be with an nfc-capable battery. The only pitfalls to this would be expensive replacements, slightly decreased battery life and possibly 1-2mm extra thickness to the battery itself. I think a ton of people would gladly take those small caveats to have NFC on a phone that shouldn't.
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IMHO, the best implementation for this on a phone that does not have NFC pre-installed would be from the battery. It requires a hard connection to the circuitry to be powered...the easiest way to do that would be with an nfc-capable battery. The only pitfalls to this would be expensive replacements, slightly decreased battery life and possibly 1-2mm extra thickness to the battery itself. I think a ton of people would gladly take those small caveats to have NFC on a phone that shouldn't.
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tjhe battery shopuld be the problem.. but after looking at this >> http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4576&idPhone2=4695
the question is, why nokia use same battery for a non nfc phone and a nfc phone.. (ps:NFC chip weight is at 3.5 Gram?)
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IMHO, the best implementation for this on a phone that does not have NFC pre-installed would be from the battery. It requires a hard connection to the circuitry to be powered...the easiest way to do that would be with an nfc-capable battery. The only pitfalls to this would be expensive replacements, slightly decreased battery life and possibly 1-2mm extra thickness to the battery itself. I think a ton of people would gladly take those small caveats to have NFC on a phone that shouldn't.
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so i think that the third party companies should work on this for say like extended batteries... and provide a market link or add a market app that would give the nfc chip in the battery to work as an example or a dev do so to make the google wallet to think it is a valid phone with use and nfc chip...
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so i think that the third party companies should work on this for say like extended batteries... and provide a market link or add a market app that would give the nfc chip in the battery to work as an example or a dev do so to make the google wallet to think it is a valid phone with use and nfc chip...
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You can't use Google Wallet with phones that don't have it built in period. There's more than the NFC. There's a chip called a Secure Element that's separate and stores all of the information for cards, etc. The phone either comes with it or it doesn't.
Also for phones with batteries that have an NFC chip in them, that's just an antenna for the chip inside the phone. It does nothing in a non-NFC phone.
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Hello people,
So I recently was playing around with some NFC apps, and I found out my OV-Chipkaart (Dutch public transit card) was read by my phone. Unfortunately I got a lot of numbers and stuff I didn't understand. Does anybody know more about this?
The card is encrypted. If you get the key (there are a couple of articles on the internet which tell you how to get it), you should be able to read the entire card. Without the key you can only see the expiration date.
I saw it was possible to add your own MIFARE key in the TagInfo app. The only thing you need to get this key is an RFID-reader for your PC and some processing power (and the appropriate software).
cool
Thats so cool
My acces card for school does the same. Found this out because everytime i put my phone kn my wallet it made a sound.
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Each contactless chip (incuding the Mifare you have) has a unique id which is accessible to any contactless reader, in this case you phone. Unique id enables the reader to overcome collision for reading one chip at a time. This is is probably used as the id of your card by the system it is being used.
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My acces card for school does the same. Found this out because everytime i put my phone kn my wallet it made a sound.
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hey on they internet i found this :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7wyHfYDg4A
http://www.ov-chipkaart.me/forum/vi...sid=601115f083127a3a86069b25feebdb43&start=30
i tested it on my personal ov chipkaart but it didn' t work because i haven' t made a dump off the card. i haven' t got a reader for it so maybe if a xda that lives in Rotterdam/Cappele a/d Ijssel is kind enough to make a dump for me
I also recently checked my bus-card and the phone could read some of the info in the card, so i was wondering if it is possible to clone the info in the card to some other nfc tag, which would be cool, and also if i use the phone as rifid reader, mentioned above, connected to pc with usb then theoretically it would be possible to reprogram the card...?
And also another question, is it possible for the phone to send out same info which is on the card so i could use phone instead of bus-card at the bus?
EDIT: I read previous topics and realized that this is impossible.
The ov-chipkaart part is now available and working in the source of github/wandcode/farebot. I have tried and confirmed that this is working. You will need to crack the MiFare classic keys first, this is only possible on a ov-chipkaart by NXP-semiconductors (so not the Infineon version)
I don't have a RFID card reader... Is it possible to dump the chipkaart keys with the Samsung Nexus and then crack the keys with the PC?
Credit
Funny
Now to find out how to upload vitual cash
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I don't have a RFID card reader... Is it possible to dump the chipkaart keys with the Samsung Nexus and then crack the keys with the PC?
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No that's where the power of chip-cards come in play. There are no keys on it who a external device will receive and decipher. A Mifare Classic card has a built-in authentication system which you will have to pass to read/write onto the card.
The only possible way i could think of is to take the known key from the card, generate a dictionary on a computer and then bruteforce with a phone. But i think that would be more time/hassle then buying a 20 dollar NFC reader.
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The only possible way i could think of is to take the known key from the card, generate a dictionary on a computer and then bruteforce with a phone. But i think that would be more time/hassle then buying a 20 dollar NFC reader.
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All the Mifare card readers I could find cost at least 40 euros... Do you recommend any cheap ones?
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All the Mifare card readers I could find cost at least 40 euros... Do you recommend any cheap ones?
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Ah you have to take a look around, there are loads of people owning a acr122u(touchatag) who bought them when the ov chipkaart got cracked, prices have been rising i guess. Try second hand
Factionwars said:
Ah you have to take a look around, there are loads of people owning a acr122u(touchatag) who bought them when the ov chipkaart got cracked, prices have been rising i guess. Try second hand
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Anyone heard about the news today? The OV got hacked again.
You guys know any of this?
dragonwith said:
Anyone heard about the news today? The OV got hacked again.
You guys know any of this?
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Here a hidden post on the details http://www.totalov.nl/m/index.php?type=n&n=166
I have been on it all morning, and it seems to be more of a theoretical hack rather than a real PoC. I also still don't understand how you could attach a sticker to a nfc card and the reader will read the sticker instead of the nfc card, it will read both in my logic.
Any news or how to's available.
Hi guys any app or news available on how to do this.
If anyone in holland is willing to help me with a dumpfile of my 0V chip card for a reward, sent me a pm please.:good:
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Here a hidden post on the details http://www.totalov.nl/m/index.php?type=n&n=166
I have been on it all morning, and it seems to be more of a theoretical hack rather than a real PoC. I also still don't understand how you could attach a sticker to a nfc card and the reader will read the sticker instead of the nfc card, it will read both in my logic.
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Isnt it kinda obvious that you have a huge sticker on your OV. Like Checkers can just take of the sticker and they can see its fake.
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Isnt it kinda obvious that you have a huge sticker on your OV. Like Checkers can just take of the sticker and they can see its fake.
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No Mifare classic stickers can be very small, and then again you can also attach it to the card holder it's in and when you get asked to take it out you just have bad luck. Though i am more interested in the Tech and Security rather then abusing it.
Hey guys. I'm willing to help and work together to make this work. I've also noticed that the forum of the last hack, ov-chipkaart.me is down. Does anyone know anything about this?
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Here a hidden post on the details ---
I have been on it all morning, and it seems to be more of a theoretical hack rather than a real PoC. I also still don't understand how you could attach a sticker to a nfc card and the reader will read the sticker instead of the nfc card, it will read both in my logic.
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The sourcecode of Farebot is avalible on github if you didn't already find it.
Since it can already read the data it must not be hard to be able to write it back to a new tag..
If you need any help or a Mifare reader you can contact me.
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DamianSewo said:
Hey guys. I'm willing to help and work together to make this work. I've also noticed that the forum of the last hack, ov-chipkaart.me is down. Does anyone know anything about this?
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Just visit archive (I cant link, since < 10 posts. Google it, 1st link) and use the Way Back Macine.