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Thinking of rooting

I am thinking of rooting my daughter's fire. Before I do I would like to backup all of her app data. Is there a way to do this so I can restore all her saved games once I am finished rooting it?

Truthfully rooting is obsolete you can send twrp and fff to the kindle. Access recovery, create a backup,flash modaco straight over the stock image without wiping and its rooted with Google play and all her data still intact... Exactly what I did with my daughters..

Thepooch said:
Truthfully rooting is obsolete you can send twrp and fff to the kindle. Access recovery, create a backup,flash modaco straight over the stock image without wiping and its rooted with Google play and all her data still intact... Exactly what I did with my daughters..
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Can I get twrp and fff from the Amazon App store?

No, but there's a small tool for installing it, check out this thread for installation guides, it's pretty simple: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1399889

After I use the tool will I be able to install custom ROMs? I would like to install either ICS or JB on her Fire.

Indirectly yes. You can use that tool to install TWRP. You can then use TWRP to backup your current system and install custom roms.

Before you get in over your head...
You seem like a pretty resonable person, so don't be naive to the complications that normally arise with those that attempt to "root/modify" their devices with the above mentioned utility. You are much better off doing a little research and trying to educate yourself in how this whole process works.
Find out what FFF is, what it does and how to use it. Find out what TWRP is, how it works and how to use it. Most of this stuff is easy to do and understand, but not if you don't know anything about it. Take a look around the forums and you'll see the large number of people who used the Kindle Fire Utility and ran into trouble with no idea of why or how to fix it. It would be beneficial and a lot less stressful for you if you had an idea of exactly what you were getting into.
At the top of this page is a sticky, titled "Before asking for troubleshooting help...". There are links in that thread, to many useful guides with a wealth of information to give you a great head start to keeping everything running smoothly. And don't be afraid to ask questions if you don't understand, just don't be ridiculous about it, because in the end, there is still no better education than experience.

I did find this thread. Is the tool basically an automated version of this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1638452
I am a little informed on the rooting process as I have rooted my HTC Thunderbolt. I will do a little more research before I do anything to the fire. I don't want to mess up my daughters device and have her upset with me. Are there any good JB ROMs out there for daily driver use or are the only stables one out ICS?

mlott132 said:
I did find this thread. Is the tool basically an automated version of this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1638452
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Pretty much, yes.
I am a little informed on the rooting process as I have rooted my HTC Thunderbolt. I will do a little more research before I do anything to the fire. I don't want to mess up my daughters device and have her upset with me. Are there any good JB ROMs out there for daily driver use or are the only stables one out ICS?
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The Kindle Fire is very solid so it's extremely unlikely you will do anything to permanently "brick" it. Just be sure you are extremely careful installing a custom bootloader. The latest one can be flashed in recovery very safely, so I would skip that option if you decide to use the KFU. All it would take is a slight power surge, blue screen of death or accidentally pulling the USB cable out at the wrong time, and you'll be doing THIS to fix it. Believe me, it's not fun the first time around.
As for a good daily driver...most JB and ICS ROMs are rather stable, with minor quirks here and there, but they are still better than the stock OS any day IMO.

Will I lose all the saved app data during the initial rooting process? If so, is there a way to backup this information so that I will not lose her saved games?

you dont have to root you didn``t read my post very well you only need fff and twrp if you flash modaco you will be rooted and all your daughters data will be intact but this is only the case with modaco. most people who use kfu and select install permanent root with kfu have some type of failure as of recent. failing to push su binaries, failing to push superuser apk failing drivers that cant handle the quick change of fastboot, getting stuck in fastboot and the list goes on and on...

mlott132 said:
Will I lose all the saved app data during the initial rooting process?
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No. "Rooting" really only consists of adding two files. One that gives you actual root access (ownership) and one that keeps track of App permissions set by you.
The tricky thing is that you need temporary root access to get those files in place. This is where custom recovery comes in. Custom recoveries, like TWRP, come standard with root access, which will allow you to install and configure those two files. Custom recoveries go on their own partitions to replace their current, less effective stock counterparts, so no data capacity is lost in the process. With only those pieces of software in place, you would need to use the command line any time you want to access recovery, this is where a custom bootloader comes in. A custom bootloader will allow you to hold the power button at startup to access recovery on the fly.
The actual rooting process is unnecessary, especially if you intend to flash a custom ROM, because all custom ROMs these days are already pre-rooted. So, all you really have to do to get where you want, is get access to fastboot mode to flash a custom recovery (TWRP), push the desired ROM to your sdcard, wipe System & Factory Reset, install and reboot. The hardest part is getting the adb to work.
mlott132 said:
is there a way to backup this information so that I will not lose her saved games?
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You can make backups of everything in recovery and transfer it all to your computer.

Thepooch said:
you dont have to root you didn``t read my post very well you only need fff and twrp if you flash modaco you will be rooted and all your daughters data will be intact but this is only the case with modaco. most people who use kfu and select install permanent root with kfu have some type of failure as of recent. failing to push su binaries, failing to push superuser apk failing drivers that cant handle the quick change of fastboot, getting stuck in fastboot and the list goes on and on...
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Do I just sideload fff and twrp or when I flash modaco will it install these?

mlott132 said:
Do I just sideload fff and twrp or when I flash modaco will it install these?
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Neither.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25730650
Read through it to get a good understanding before attempting anything.

the actual act of putting twrp and fff is actually fairly straight forward the difficult thing is getting your drivers installed correctly. Rather than going first shot trying to either fastboot flash twrp and fff via command line or via kfu it is best to test your drivers to get a good idea of how they will act and if they will perform correctly. Instead of leaving your computer unable to detect the kindle in an undesirable state...
The kindle needs to enter fastboot to get at least part of the job and unfortunately with windows this sudden driver change tends to confuse it...
Side note: you go outside of modaco which you dont have to wipe when flashing to ICS or JB there will be data loss because a full wipe of everything but your sdcard contents will have to be wiped..

Well I finally pulled the trigger last night and unlocked my daughters fire. I ended up using kfu to install fff and twrp. Then flashed monaco ROM and all is well. Thanks everyone for their help in getting this done.:good:

Congrats! The modified fire is so much better than the stock.
Sent from my Amazon Kindle Fire using Tapatalk 2

[Q] New OS update bricked my Fire. Any quick fixes?

My rooted KF got bricked by the new OS update that was released last night. It boots as normal, gets to the locker screen, and whether you unlock it or not, reboots about 15 seconds later to a screen showing the Android guy and an exclamation point in a yellow triangle. Then, if you start touching the screen, 4 buttons will show up on the side, up/down, select, and back... but they do nothing. Reboot again and it takes me to TWRP.
I know how to wipe my KF and reinstall everything, but I was hoping that someone might know of a fix for this. Especially because I just got a new computer and am still in the process of getting my normal apps installed, let alone Android SDKs that I use once in a blue moon. Plus, I have a few games that I would rather not lose my progress on.
BTW, I rooted my dad's KF the exact same way as mine and his just lost root access with the update, everything else is fine. Kinda weird.
TIA

What OS update? Your new computer will not need sdk. Also you will not escape having to wipe if something has gone amuck, unless you get lucky to be able to flash the prior system to revert the defect. You could just flash modaco http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1439916 no more losing root from OTA`S. You may also get lucky and be able to flash modaco if you`re on rooted stock or previously rooted stock 6.3.1 without wiping.

Thepooch said:
What OS update? Your new computer will not need sdk. Also you will not escape having to wipe if something has gone amuck, unless you get lucky to be able to flash the prior system to revert the defect. You could just flash modaco http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1439916 no more losing root from OTA`S.
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About 3am last night, I found my KF bricked after just using it about 30 minutes before (the wifi was on and it was hooked up to the charger). Today, I checked on my dad's KF and he has his wifi turned off. I turned it on and it instantly rebooted to just a "command line" screen saying that it was installing an update. Took about 10 minutes and then rebooted and worked fine, except that it was unrooted. I read somewhere in the Amazon Forums today that they did roll out an update and plan on spending 2 weeks doing it to keep from bogging down their network. Granted, their Software Update page doesn't say anything about it yet.
BTW, thanks for the other info, I'll have to check it out. Sounds like I'll have to wipe it (or at least restore from a 2-3 month old backup and see how the update goes again). But that's cool that I won't need to install the Android SDK.

Explains why some are instantly being unrooted or like in your case bricked strange thing is that it doesn`t change the system version it`s still 6.3.1 figures that Amazon would pull something like this.

Hey, I did manage to find a quick fix!
In the recovery mode, I decided to try using the Fix Permissions option. Still had the same problem.
I then just used the Clear Cache option and my KF was back up and running... and still rooted.
The only issue I have found so far is that I had to change the permission to allow changing the wallpaper, just uncheck the "write" permissions, (which was probably reset by the Fix Permissions option I ran). Other than that 2 second fix, everything is fine.
Granted, I'm waiting for Amazon to do an auto-check for some file that was in the cache that told it that it had installed the latest upgrade, and since I wiped that, it may install it again. If it does, I'll post it in this thread that my quick fix didn't work. But so far so good.

It turns out that my quick fix is only a temp fix.
Twice tonight I had to clear the cache again via the recovery menu. The first time it happened, I had just finished reading and hit the power button to put it in sleep mode, which caused it to instantly reboot and then do the same thing as I mentioned above. It boots up, and within 5 second of getting the locker screen, whether you unlock it or not, it starts shutting down and reboots ending up with the screen in the attached pic (those dots are just dust that appear super bright for some weird reason because you can't see them except in the pic).
So I cleared the cache again, everything was fine, and then about an hour later I found it sitting on that screen again. Clearing the cache fixed it again, but obvious this is a reoccurring problem.
Anyone have any ideas?
I'm reluctant to do a reinstall yet because I'm afraid I'll just end up with the same problem... along with none of my apps installed.

I have the same issue my temp solution is turn off wifi asap after lock-screen appear, wait abt 1-2 minutes then I can turn on wifi and use as normal.
Everything will fine for few hours. Any permanent solution plz? I remember that it occurred after i update something from Amazon app store, maybe : apps...
Sent from my Kindle Fire using xda premium

The permanent solution is to flash another rom preferably modaco if you want the stock experience. Full wipe, your apps can all be redownloaded that is the least of your worries at this point. probably a really good time to upgrade your bootloader and recovery if you haven`t flash both of these zips as zips in twrp if are behind the curve http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30780737&postcount=180 and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1632375 only get them from where I`m directing you or use smirkit http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1500935.

thanks for your help. This is done with the below solution
1) Copy the update bin file to the /sdcard as update.zip
Download stock ROM : https://s3.amazonaws.com/kindle-fire-updates/update-kindle-6.3.1_D01E_4107920.bin
copy update-kindle-6.3.1_D01E_4107920.bin into Kindle Fire and re-name to update.zip
2) From the main menu of CWM, "Wipe cache from partion" to remove the existing files in the data and cache partitions
3) From the main menu of CWM, press the "Install update.zip" button to flash the stock software onto your device.
no data/application lost accept FFF and CWM

Wiping cache doesn`t remove data in twrp its factory reset that you need to concern yourself with and unfortunately there is data loss. You may have succeeded but others put themselves in a position of needing a factory cable after not properly wiping when flashing stock. This is because the data is what the kindle has a tough time handling after a complete stock flash. Flashing modaco is far safer, truth is that it will leave your recovery and bootloader intact providing a far better safety net if something were to go wrong. Also if you create a backup before you flash if something does go wrong at least you can restore a half crap backup, wipeout recovery and this is no longer possible just saying. I see far more people fail to flash stock than I ever do flashing modaco.

Thanks for the info guys.
Considering the post in the Amazon Forums said this update was being pushed out over a 2 week period, I'm just going to keep my WiFi off (unless needed) and wait until everyone should have received the update and then see how it plays out. Considering it doesn't change the software version number, I'm thinking that this update may be just targeting rooted Fires. And BTW, it appears that the post was removed, because I can't find it again. Maybe they remove any that mention rooting? I just stumbled upon it via a Google search... 99% of the question in their forum are just idiotic.
Directv used to pull this stunt all the time to bust people with hacked cards that allowed them to get all their channels for free (usually a few hours before some big PPV event). They finally completely stopped the ability to hack cards by rolling out parts of their code over a long period of time, a year or so. When the final piece was put in place, the previous parts of their code had already been integrated into the hacked card software, because it appeared safe, and along with upgrading the type of cards they used during that same period of time, pretty much eliminated the ability to cheat Directv. I'm not saying that Amazon is going to those lengths to stop people from rooting their KFs,.. but who knows? It may be costing them too much with people bricking their KFs by trying to root them. Plus, they may also be losing revenue by people getting their free apps (with ads) from the Playstore instead of Amazon. And considering they pretty much sell their Fires for cost, they definitely rely on revenue generated by buying and using things via a stock KF.
BTW, this whole issue had almost perfect timing... I was planning on wiping my KF because it definitely is slower than when I first got it (which was day 1 of its release). I've read that Gingerbread doesn't clean up after itself too well, especially not as good as ICS (kinda like a Windows registry just gets filled with junk over time, and no cleaner beats a fresh install). It also appears that the ICS roms are actually working reliably these days, compared to the last time I checked. So, in a couple weeks, I'll get to have some fun. I am a Windows/Cisco System Engineer, so this kinda stuff is fun for me.

F.Y.I.
It seems that Amazon did do a incremental update on the Original Kindle Fire version
6.3.1_user_4107720, April 30 build to 6.3.1_user_4107920, November 27 build.
I looked thru the update and the only things I found changed are to do with the
Wifi driver, launcher icons, boot animation, and boot.img; attached the changed file below.
I have not tried to update mine, will attempt this weekend.

Thank you Tera Tike for the info at least this confirms that it's not just a fluke users of rooted stock should be warned appreciate your research. I do wonder why they would change boot animation and IMG seems a bit haneous.

Thepooch said:
Thank you Tera Tike for the info at least this confirms that it's not just a fluke users of rooted stock should be warned appreciate your research. I do wonder why they would change boot animation and IMG seems a bit haneous.
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It seems they increased the resolution of the images in the file, but for me I can not see the difference.
For me I wonder what they changed in the WiFi driver file, tiap_drv.ko.

Kindle Fire Reboot Problem Solved - Install MoDaCo Rom
Thepooch said:
Wiping cache doesn`t remove data in twrp its factory reset that you need to concern yourself with and unfortunately there is data loss. You may have succeeded but others put themselves in a position of needing a factory cable after not properly wiping when flashing stock. This is because the data is what the kindle has a tough time handling after a complete stock flash. Flashing modaco is far safer, truth is that it will leave your recovery and bootloader intact providing a far better safety net if something were to go wrong. Also if you create a backup before you flash if something does go wrong at least you can restore a half crap backup, wipeout recovery and this is no longer possible just saying. I see far more people fail to flash stock than I ever do flashing modaco.
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I took Thepooch's advice and installed MoDaCo rom on my KF. It was a snap. I had FireFireFire installed with TWRP. Just downloaded MoDaCo to PC copied to KF. Rebooted to FireFireFire Installed with Install Zip utility. Took a few minutes. Rebooted didn't loose any data , apps or functionality. Its still rooted. THANKS!

No problem you can find the entire uncomplicated method here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1923010 or at least a synopsis of the concept.

Help needed after upgrade to 51.1.5.0_515030720

So, the other day i have started on rooting the AFTV of a friend of mine. i rooted mine a while ago and was comfortable enough to do it for someone else.
was following the AFTVnews.com guide (very well organized site and i would say a wiki for all aftv users). the initial version on the box was 51.1.0.1. have succesfuly rooted it, installed customer recovery, busybox, bootmenu, etc, all as per the guide. have upgraded it to 51.1.4.0_514006420 updated succesfuly as well again using aftvnews.com after which have installed the busybox again. now here the strange things happen. have decided to keep upgrading it to the latest version 51.1.5.0_515030720, according to the description i could upgrade straight to this version from 51.1.4.0_514006420. followed the same upgrade procedure and after the reboot in CWM i get the Amazon Fire TV logo and doesnt do anything, left it for about 10 min - nothing. power cycled it still the coloured logo. which means somehow it got software bricked.
started to google the ways of unbrick it and followed the procedure with the USB keyboard, it worked well for me. i got in to CWM recovery and did factory reset after which reboot. no luck, still showing the coloured logo.
got back in to recovery using the same USB keyboard method and did again factory reset after which decided to install the 51.1.4.0_514006420 updated custom ROM again which was already on my sdcard.
installed successfully, rebooted and started to configure the brand new aftv box - language, network, register, etc. after all this got on home screen, system to find out that it has the stock 51.1.4.0 version (51.1.4.0_user_514006420). what is interesting that the supersu is already there but without the option to launch it, only force stop, clear data and cash.
tried towelroot but obviously no luck, it sais your phone is not supported. so i guess that's it, no more root for me.
where the hell i missed it? i followed every step carefully.
and why in the first place after upgrade from 51.1.4.0_514006420 to 51.1.5.0_515030720 i got bricked?
please tell me there's still hope to root it.
Update: despite the fact that towelroot cant root my box anymore i was able to install busybox and kernel boot menu succesfuly and granted super user permissions. the adb shell shows as [email protected] something is not right, looks like a partial root to me.
please advise.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/development/prerooted-stock-images-t2882337
From the OP rbox:
"Starting with 51.1.4.1, these require FireTV Boot Menu. For the time being, you must update to 51.1.4.0 before updating to 51.1.4.1. Also, if you flashed 51.1.4.0, you must flash bootmenu afterwards. If you are already on 51.1.4.0, then you just need to flash bootmenu."

stutunaru said:
So, the other day i have started on rooting the AFTV of a friend of mine. i rooted mine a while ago and was comfortable enough to do it for someone else.
was following the AFTVnews.com guide (very well organized site and i would say a wiki for all aftv users). the initial version on the box was 51.1.0.1. have succesfuly rooted it, installed customer recovery, busybox, bootmenu, etc, all as per the guide. have upgraded it to 51.1.4.0_514006420 updated succesfuly as well again using aftvnews.com after which have installed the busybox again. now here the strange things happen. have decided to keep upgrading it to the latest version 51.1.5.0_515030720, according to the description i could upgrade straight to this version from 51.1.4.0_514006420. followed the same upgrade procedure and after the reboot in CWM i get the Amazon Fire TV logo and doesnt do anything, left it for about 10 min - nothing. power cycled it still the coloured logo. which means somehow it got software bricked.
started to google the ways of unbrick it and followed the procedure with the USB keyboard, it worked well for me. i got in to CWM recovery and did factory reset after which reboot. no luck, still showing the coloured logo.
got back in to recovery using the same USB keyboard method and did again factory reset after which decided to install the 51.1.4.0_514006420 updated custom ROM again which was already on my sdcard.
installed successfully, rebooted and started to configure the brand new aftv box - language, network, register, etc. after all this got on home screen, system to find out that it has the stock 51.1.4.0 version (51.1.4.0_user_514006420). what is interesting that the supersu is already there but without the option to launch it, only force stop, clear data and cash.
tried towelroot but obviously no luck, it sais your phone is not supported. so i guess that's it, no more root for me.
where the hell i missed it? i followed every step carefully.
and why in the first place after upgrade from 51.1.4.0_514006420 to 51.1.5.0_515030720 i got bricked?
please tell me there's still hope to root it.
Update: despite the fact that towelroot cant root my box anymore i was able to install busybox and kernel boot menu succesfuly and granted super user permissions. the adb shell shows as [email protected] something is not right, looks like a partial root to me.
please advise.
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You kinda lost me there...but here's what I know
I'm almost certain its not possible for you to have boot menu and cwm without fully functional root privs
[email protected] is what it should say (does it go straight to that after inputting shell? Do you get the # sign?) That means bootloader is fully unlocked.
Supersu on aftv doesn't open and allow you to configure but it works. Not sure why but that's the way its been for a long time.
I think you're all set but sort of skimmed your post. Maybe someone else has insights.

stutunaru said:
So, the other day i have started on rooting the AFTV of a friend of mine. i rooted mine a while ago and was comfortable enough to do it for someone else.
was following the AFTVnews.com guide (very well organized site and i would say a wiki for all aftv users). the initial version on the box was 51.1.0.1. have succesfuly rooted it, installed customer recovery, busybox, bootmenu, etc, all as per the guide. have upgraded it to 51.1.4.0_514006420 updated succesfuly as well again using aftvnews.com after which have installed the busybox again. now here the strange things happen. have decided to keep upgrading it to the latest version 51.1.5.0_515030720, according to the description i could upgrade straight to this version from 51.1.4.0_514006420. followed the same upgrade procedure and after the reboot in CWM i get the Amazon Fire TV logo and doesnt do anything, left it for about 10 min - nothing. power cycled it still the coloured logo. which means somehow it got software bricked.
started to google the ways of unbrick it and followed the procedure with the USB keyboard, it worked well for me. i got in to CWM recovery and did factory reset after which reboot. no luck, still showing the coloured logo.
got back in to recovery using the same USB keyboard method and did again factory reset after which decided to install the 51.1.4.0_514006420 updated custom ROM again which was already on my sdcard.
installed successfully, rebooted and started to configure the brand new aftv box - language, network, register, etc. after all this got on home screen, system to find out that it has the stock 51.1.4.0 version (51.1.4.0_user_514006420). what is interesting that the supersu is already there but without the option to launch it, only force stop, clear data and cash.
tried towelroot but obviously no luck, it sais your phone is not supported. so i guess that's it, no more root for me.
where the hell i missed it? i followed every step carefully.
and why in the first place after upgrade from 51.1.4.0_514006420 to 51.1.5.0_515030720 i got bricked?
please tell me there's still hope to root it.
Update: despite the fact that towelroot cant root my box anymore i was able to install busybox and kernel boot menu succesfuly and granted super user permissions. the adb shell shows as [email protected] something is not right, looks like a partial root to me.
please advise.
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Sounds like you installed 51.1.4.0 AFTER installing the bootmenu. You're supposed to install 51.1.4.0 first, then the boot menu, then the latest ROM. It's a simple enough fix. Just follow the "Resetting with Recovery Mode" portion of my guide here: http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-unbrick-and-prevent-bricking-an-amazon-fire-tv/#toc3.2

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Sounds like you installed 51.1.4.0 AFTER installing the bootmenu. You're supposed to install 51.1.4.0 first, then the boot menu, then the latest ROM. It's a simple enough fix. Just follow the "Resetting with Recovery Mode" portion of my guide here: http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-unbrick-and-prevent-bricking-an-amazon-fire-tv/#toc3.2
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@AFTVnews.com here are two separate issues im trying to find explanation:
1. why after installing rooted 51.1.5.0 i got brisked even i was following the same guide as for 51.1.4.0. i think i haven’t missed anything in there.
2. during the recovery the only missed step was nr.2 (missed to wipe cash partition). the question is why as a result of flashing the rooted 51.1.4.0 i got the stock one? (51.1.4.0_user_514006420)?
and the bootmenu i have installed only after applied 51.1.4.0->BusyBox->bootloader.
all works as should except the towelroot and partially supersu. why partially supersu because it still does what should, grants permissions to application but i cant open it, cant remove it, cant update it.
should i go ahead and apply the last rooted release (51.1.5.0_515030720)?

KLit75 said:
You kinda lost me there...but here's what I know
I'm almost certain its not possible for you to have boot menu and cwm without fully functional root privs
[email protected] is what it should say (does it go straight to that after inputting shell? Do you get the # sign?) That means bootloader is fully unlocked.
Supersu on aftv doesn't open and allow you to configure but it works. Not sure why but that's the way its been for a long time.
I think you're all set but sort of skimmed your post. Maybe someone else has insights.
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according to AFTVnews.com the verification of unlocked bootloader was the adb shell. right after it i get [email protected]:/ #
http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-check-if-your-fire-tvs-bootloader-is-unlocked/

cd2022 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/development/prerooted-stock-images-t2882337
From the OP rbox:
"Starting with 51.1.4.1, these require FireTV Boot Menu. For the time being, you must update to 51.1.4.0 before updating to 51.1.4.1. Also, if you flashed 51.1.4.0, you must flash bootmenu afterwards. If you are already on 51.1.4.0, then you just need to flash bootmenu."
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and i did flash the bootmenu after 51.1.4.0. the question is why after rooted 51.1.4.0 i got 51.1.4.0_user_514006420 which is stock ROM. also why if i have all tools mentioned for root on my aftv the towelroot says not supported?
is there anyway of starting allover again beeing on 51.1.4.0?
it's probably easier to do that then to troubleshoot why all these happened

stutunaru said:
and i did flash the bootmenu after 51.1.4.0. the question is why after rooted 51.1.4.0 i got 51.1.4.0_user_514006420 which is stock ROM. also why if i have all tools mentioned for root on my aftv the towelroot says not supported?
is there anyway of starting allover again beeing on 51.1.4.0?
it's probably easier to do that then to troubleshoot why all these happened
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The rbox ROMs and the stock ROMs are named identically, as far as I know. As far as I know
Towel root probably sees the preroot fw as unsupported because the same version of stock is most definetly unsupported. I never tried because I am rooted so there was never a need.
You are rooted
You have unlocked the bootloader
Supersu is working
You have cwm
When I said you lost me there...I meant from reading your op I can't see anything that indicates you screwed up. In fact, I accidentally tried to flash a stock ROM when I was going through that long process but it won't flash. Rbox designed it to fail so we won't brick. So as far as I know there is no way to be running stock with a custom recovery and to have custom recovery you must be rooted. I could be missing something but I don't see what?
Have you tried flashing a more recent update?
***but don't just try it without ensuring prerequisites are met. Like many others I do things like root and unlocknjust once. There's a definite order to this that can't be overlooked.

Just grab the seeder.apk and try to enable it.
If it enables successfully,then you have root access.

stutunaru said:
and i did flash the bootmenu after 51.1.4.0. the question is why after rooted 51.1.4.0 i got 51.1.4.0_user_514006420 which is stock ROM. also why if i have all tools mentioned for root on my aftv the towelroot says not supported?
is there anyway of starting allover again beeing on 51.1.4.0?
it's probably easier to do that then to troubleshoot why all these happened
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The pre-rooted ROM and the stock software update report the exact same software version number when you look in the Fire TV's about section. Saying "i got 51.1.4.0_user_514006420 which is stock ROM" is silly since the pre-rooted ROM will also say 51.1.4.0_user_514006420. Also, SuperUser not launching is a known issue. It is that way for everyone using the SuperUser app that is included in the pre-rooted ROMs.
You bricked because you either did not install the boot menu or you messed up the boot menu installation. Simple as that.
If you're running 51.1.4.0 right now, then:
Install BusyBox
CAREFULLY install the boot menu
Test that the boot menu is working by restarting your Fire TV and using the boot menu to enter recovery
Then finally, install the latest pre-rooted ROM

AFTVnews.com said:
The pre-rooted ROM and the stock software update report the exact same software version number when you look in the Fire TV's about section. Saying "i got 51.1.4.0_user_514006420 which is stock ROM" is silly since the pre-rooted ROM will also say 51.1.4.0_user_514006420. Also, SuperUser not launching is a known issue. It is that way for everyone using the SuperUser app that is included in the pre-rooted ROMs.
You bricked because you either did not install the boot menu or you messed up the boot menu installation. Simple as that.
If you're running 51.1.4.0 right now, then:
Install BusyBox
CAREFULLY install the boot menu
Test that the boot menu is working by restarting your Fire TV and using the boot menu to enter recovery
Then finally, install the latest pre-rooted ROM
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Might be. i might've overlooked something during the process.
last night have applied the latest pre-rooted ROM and so far so good.
appreciate all your help folks.
:good::good::good:

Removing TWRP

Hi all
A couple of weeks ago I upgraded my rooted gen 1 fire tv to os 5 software and used twrp (previously using clockwork mod as per guides online). Anyway, it worked but i dont think i blocked updates and have since updated to OS 5.2.1.0 and appear to have lost root. No biggie since i didnt use it anyway.
One thing which is really annoying though is that 1-2 times a day ill turn the tv on and the fire tv has reset and is on the twrp screen. I fix this by unplugging the power and the fire tv reboots to its normal homescreen. Im just wondering what is an easy fix for this? Can i get rid of twrp? Do i do a reset of some form? I dont want to lose all my apps and kodi if possible.
I assume it is doing this for a particular reason, maybe looking for updates or something? I havent blocked updates at my router and really dont care too much anymore and am happy to run stock.
Cheers

cbarre said:
Hi all
A couple of weeks ago I upgraded my rooted gen 1 fire tv to os 5 software and used twrp (previously using clockwork mod as per guides online). Anyway, it worked but i dont think i blocked updates and have since updated to OS 5.2.1.0 and appear to have lost root. No biggie since i didnt use it anyway.
One thing which is really annoying though is that 1-2 times a day ill turn the tv on and the fire tv has reset and is on the twrp screen. I fix this by unplugging the power and the fire tv reboots to its normal homescreen. Im just wondering what is an easy fix for this? Can i get rid of twrp? Do i do a reset of some form? I dont want to lose all my apps and kodi if possible.
I assume it is doing this for a particular reason, maybe looking for updates or something? I havent blocked updates at my router and really dont care too much anymore and am happy to run stock.
Cheers
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The device shouldn't be restarting by itself at all, let alone that often. Maybe wipe and reflash the ROM?

I figured it was something to do with it looking for updates but was surprised that It kept happening even after upgrading to a non pre-rooted rom.
Can I still flash a rom even if I don't have root? Which rom do I do?what the fire TV currently has ? Is there any way of just removing twrp?

cbarre said:
I figured it was something to do with it looking for updates but was surprised that It kept happening even after upgrading to a non pre-rooted rom.
Can I still flash a rom even if I don't have root? Which rom do I do?what the fire TV currently has ? Is there any way of just removing twrp?
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Sounds to me like it downloaded a stock update but never installed it. You're seeing it sitting on TWRP randomly because after downloading an OTA update, the Fire TV reboots into stock recovery to install the update. Since your stock recovery has been replaced by TWRP, the OTA update is rebooting into TWRP and just sitting there because rbox made it so TWRP wont install OTA updates.
If you want to have a rooted device, install the latest pre-rooted ROM (5.2.1.1) from within TWRP and block updates. You'll also want to follow the "If your device is rooted and still powered on" section of this guide to clear the pending OTA update that's causing the reboots.
If you want to unroot, remove TWRP, and go back to stock, then follow this guide.

I have tried to follow the guide to unroot as suggested at the bottom, but when i go to install in twrp it says "updater process ended with ERROR: 255" "Error installing zip file '/sdcad/sloane-5.0.4-rooted_r2.zip'
Any thoughts?

cbarre said:
I have tried to follow the guide to unroot as suggested at the bottom, but when i go to install in twrp it says "updater process ended with ERROR: 255" "Error installing zip file '/sdcad/sloane-5.0.4-rooted_r2.zip'
Any thoughts?
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SOrry, but I'm not familiar with that error. The only things I can suggest are wiping everything except system from within TWRP and then trying again. Otherwise, maybe @rbox can help.

Could it be that gen2 roms don't work on gen1?

hmm, dont know. Is there a Gen 1 option?

Don't know as i don't have a gen1 device. If i was you i would just upgrade to the latest prerooted rom and follow AFTVnews guide to remove any pending ota.
Afterwards you can block future ota's by issuing following command as root:
Code:
pm disable com.amazon.device.software.ota

WheelchairArtist said:
Could it be that gen2 roms don't work on gen1?
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hmm, dont know. Is there a Gen 1 option?
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Not quite sure what would happen if you tried installing a Gen 2 ROM on a Gen 1 Fire TV, but you definitely shouldn't be doing it.
Fire TV 1 pre-rooted ROMs are here.
Fire TV 2 pre-rooted ROMs are here.
It's odd that you say you installed an OTA update that removed root, yet you still have TWRP. OTA updates are incremental (partial) updates. Before installing, they check system and/or recovery to make sure everything is on the up-and-up. If the device is rooted, the check fails and the device will then download a full version of the latest update that includes stock recovery. So, going by everything I've observed, either you lose root and TWRP simultaneously, or the OTA update doesn't install. If you really did install an OTA update, lose root, and NOT lose TWRP, then it seems somehow you installed an incremental OTA update on a pre-rooted ROM. I don't know how to proceed from here because I've never heard of this happening and in theory it shouldn't ever happen.

WheelchairArtist said:
Could it be that gen2 roms don't work on gen1?
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I should have put an /s in that post
My advice would be the same as the one from AFTVnews. Just don't try do install a gen2 rom even though it shouldn't work.
Edit: Forgot this one: "updater process ended with ERROR: 255" "Error installing zip file '/sdcad/sloane-5.0.4-rooted_r2.zip'
As you see it doesn't work anyway.
AFTVnews.com said:
If you really did install an OTA update, lose root, and NOT lose TWRP, then it seems somehow you installed an incremental OTA update on a pre-rooted ROM. I don't know how to proceed from here because I've never heard of this happening and in theory it shouldn't ever happen.
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If this would be the case he could still install any prerooted rom since he still has trwp and so a working custom recovery. In the worst case he needs to wipe data/cache or something like that after flashing.
And so my advice would be: flash latest prerooted, keep root, follow your guide to clean pending ota or wipe data, block further ota's and profit.
I don't know how Rbox implemented this on gen1 but he could also try to install for example the first official full ota (not incremental) to android 5 manually in twrp to make sure the recovery returns to stock as well. But that is just off the top of my head, don't know if this works that way.

Someone has the recovery files for the Firetv Stick 4k, i need to remove twrp because i send it back to amazon

test10000001 said:
Someone has the recovery files for the Firetv Stick 4k, i need to remove twrp because i send it back to amazon
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Just flash original boot.img from the stock rom.

[GUIDE] Root, custom recovery and ROMs for JEM [OCTOBER 2017]

My roommate gave me his Kindle 8.9 to play with and root if possible. I had been successful at rooting, flashing TWRP, but couldn't get a custom ROM to flash. Being stupid, I didn't do a test flash first, so I ended up wiping the system and storage, so I couldn't boot into anything aside from TWRP and ADB was unresponsive. It also caused a power error, causing the device to turn back on immediately when powered down.
I acquired two of these tablets from eBay, for $35.00 a Piece, in like-new condition. I replaced the one I broke and bought one for myself. The problem I had was, there is no single guide which 1) lists the current root method for this tablet 2) The files needed to flash a custom recovery once root is gained 3) the most up to date TWRP recovery available. I read a lot of stuff on XDA. I read a lot of stuff elsewhere. The root methods listed in most every thread, no longer root. It was very hard to find an updated TWRP recovery, but thanks to @ong14, who pointed me to a single post, that was possible. So, I created this guide as a single go to for the current methods to root, TWRP and install a custom ROM.
***THIS GUIDE WILL ROOT YOUR DEVICE AND INSTALL A CUSTOM RECOVERY FOR THE AMAZON HD 8.9 JEM TABLET ONLY***
This method is used with ADB which requires Windows. Please make sure the proper drivers are installed before performing these steps. Required files for rooting and custom recovery installation are available at the bottom of this post. Please see respective links for custom ROMs. I did not create any of this software or the files. I'm not responsible if your device is damaged or bricked.
1. Enable the installation of files from unknown sources in Settings > security.
2. Enable ADB debugging from Settings > device.
3. Using the Silk Browser, go to Kingroot.net and download, install and run the APK. Also from Silk, download and install Total Commander File manager and grant it root access. Once you do that, download FireFlash11.apk at the bottom of this post. Open Total Commander and navigate to /sdcard > Downloads. Install FireFlash, open it and grant it root access to use later. (You can locate FireFlash from Home > Apps.)
5. Download the rest of the files at the bottom of this post and place into a folder of your choice on your desktop. Then go here and download this file and this file and place them in that same folder. Then move the following files to your Kindle: freedom-boot-8.4.6, u-boot-prod-8.1.4, stack and kfhd8-twrp-3.0.2-2-recovery.img.
5. Please follow the steps below from @MeowDude which will tell you how to flash a custom recovery to your Kindle.
now if you moved the files straight to your kindle, then they should be on the sd card, if you downloaded these through silk, they'll be in the downloads folder in your sd card. Now open FlashFire11, and give it root access (if you haven't yet). You should be greeted with a somewhat complicated looking wall of text and checkboxes.
!IMPORTANT!
| | |
\/ \/ \/
1. So, let me now guide you through this app, first of all, there should be red print informing you that you're not on the 8.1.4 bootloader or something like that, so click on the checkbox (at the upper right. The one that says "install kfhd8uboot-prod-8.1.4.img or something like that)
2. Now go down, and you'll see some text that says "Boot Partition Image (boot.img) and a box under it that says "NOT FLASHED" tap it. it should bring up a file manager-like list. scroll down until you see your already downloaded "kfhd8freedom-boot-8.4.6.img" , and tap/select it. (I know it says 8.4.6, IT WORKS ON 8.5.1!).
now go slightly under it and check "apply stack override".
*Next, Go under that to find a line that says "Recover Partition Image (Recovery.img), and slightly under it a box that says "NOT FLASHED" tap that, and again, you'll be greeted with a list-like file manager. scroll down until you see "kfhd8-twrp-3.0.2-2-recovery.img" and tap/select it. last part! go slightly under that and tap the check box next to "disable auto recovery update".
*Now that you have all you options in order, verify that you have them in order, and correctly selected (refer back if needed) and scroll down until you see at the bottom, a box that will install/flash all these things, it will say something like "Execute Flash Script" tap it, and your all set. if you want to boot into recovery (immediately after flashing), go right under that box to find another box that says "reboot into recovery" click it, and wait a sec, your screen will black out, and you will first see the normal kindle fire logo, then a blue one, then some glitchy looking stuff, then it should show a TeamWin logo, and go into recovery.
NOTE: If you don't flash your device with android, the stock Amazon os will erase the recovery, so NEVER REBOOT INTO RECOVERY USING FIREFLASH! Only right after you install/re-install recovery.
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You should boot back to recovery at this point and do a factory reset. Here is how to do that below:
1. Power off your Kindle.
2. Once off, press first and hold the volume down button, then the power button. Hold them both down until the device boots to the BLUE Kindle logo. Then release the power button then the volume down button.
3. You should see the "Team Win" logo come across the screen. Tap on wipe, advanced, and choose dalvik, data and cache. Ten swipe the wipe button. DO NOT SELECT THE SYSTEM OR INTERNAL STORAGE OPTION. This will do a clean install of FireOS 8.5.1 and get rid of Kingroot.
Installing a custom ROM
You can now use FireOS as you were able to before, but I was unable to get the necessary Gapps to work with each other properly. You can try, but I recommend installing a custom ROM. I've tried two so far and can confirm they both work. I will list the links below where you can get the ROMs and installation instructions.
1. The Candy Rom, based off of Lollipop 5.1.1, works on this tablet. Root is built in so you don't need to install or flash SuperSU, but the post does say you can flash it. I've had a lot of trouble with custom 5.1.1 ROMs when it comes to launchers. Be warned it doesn't play nice with Nova and will cause the SystemUI to crash and restart over and over.
2. Unofficial CyanogenMod (CM 13). I currently use this ROM. Root is also built in. I have had trouble getting used to the permissions for apps. I have to go in and set them myself. If you can't get the Google app to sign you in, go to settings > apps > Google App > permissions > grant all permissions. I cannot get Hangouts to work, but the dialer works perfect. I'm not sure if either of those issues are a fault of mine or just a fluke.
I own 3 Amazon tablets: Amazon Fire 7, rooted with a custom ROM. Amazon Fire HD 8, but unfortunately there's no root for it yet. Amazon Kindle Fire HD 8.9, rooted, custom recovery and ROM. I have had great fun 'hacking' these things. I hate FireOS, but I will give Amazon credit for making some really bad ass tablets.

I didn't really feel too happy with the CM 13 ROM. It was pretty sluggish. Just overall performance was less than it should've been. So I decided to try another CM13 (Marshmallow 6.0.1) build by Temasek . This is by far the best ROM I've ever worked with on Kindle (Sorry Fire Nexus). Performance is off the chart. There's little to no lag. You HAVE to flash SuperSu, but it works really well. You don't see the App icon, just tap settings and SuperSU is listed. You also don't need to flash Viper4Android, already comes installed. Just select it in settings, grant it root access and select yes to download the driver. It will take a minute or two for it to update, but reboot when done and configure your Viper. Just make sure you have BusyBox installed and updated. You can get it from the play store. There are more settings and customization options I can list. Truly an awesome, well built ROM.

First off, I'd like to thank you for taking the time to post your very good guide for us new guys. Another superb tutorial can be found here...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72395624&postcount=55
Your and comwiz's guides that summarize MeowDude's excellent work are two of the best ones I've seen to date and they help us novices a lot.
I want to set my elderly father up with Google's new YouTube TV streaming service when I visit him after the holidays and they currently require an Android L device or better to activate the service and control their interface. All he had was a Kindle Fire HD 8.9 a relative gave him that he never uses, so he sent it to me a few days ago so I could modify it. I've read a few of your posts on this and other threads and you seem very impressed with Temasek's CM13 custom ROM, so that's good enough for me and the one I wanna try first. But I'm a little confused by your followup post when you say "you HAVE to flash SuperSu". Does this mean that one should root with that app instead of Kingroot as was described in your original guide? I'm also not totally clear on exactly where in the procedure BusyBox needs to be installed. Here's what I have done so far to date...
*performed factory reset on Kindle Fire HD 8.9 just to clean it up and get it back to stock
*installed ADB on PC and verified it communicates with the Fire HD (detects device and returns serial number)
*downloaded and installed Total Commander (nice looking file explorer at first glance, BTW)
*sideloaded Root Check and verified device is not rooted
*downloaded the following files to PC but have not yet transferred them to the Fire:
---NewKingrootV5.1.0_C176_B415_en_release_2017_05_11_20170511212237_105203.apk
---fireflash11.apk
---kfhd8-u-boot-prod-8.1.4.bin.img
---kfhd8-freedom-boot-8.4.6.img
---kfhd8-twrp-3.0.2-2-recovery.img
---stack
---SR5-SuperSU-v2.82-SR5-20171001224502.zip
---stericson.busybox.apk
---cm-13.0-20160827-V11-temasek-jem.zip
I think this is everything I need but I'm not yet comfortable enough with my current knowledge level to try rooting and flashing a custom ROM. If you or anybody else could tell me what I should do next or at least point me in the right direction that would be much appreciated. I figure it's better to ask some dumb noob questions now before I attempt anything rather than have to come back later and ask how to unbrick my tablet.

CornellEngineer said:
First off, I'd like to thank you for taking the time to post your very good guide for us new guys. Another superb tutorial can be found here...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72395624&postcount=55
Your and comwiz's guides that summarize MeowDude's excellent work are two of the best ones I've seen to date and they help us novices a lot.
I want to set my elderly father up with Google's new YouTube TV streaming service when I visit him after the holidays and they currently require an Android L device or better to activate the service and control their interface. All he had was a Kindle Fire HD 8.9 a relative gave him that he never uses, so he sent it to me a few days ago so I could modify it. I've read a few of your posts on this and other threads and you seem very impressed with Temasek's CM13 custom ROM, so that's good enough for me and the one I wanna try first. But I'm a little confused by your followup post when you say "you HAVE to flash SuperSu". Does this mean that one should root with that app instead of Kingroot as was described in your original guide? I'm also not totally clear on exactly where in the procedure BusyBox needs to be installed. Here's what I have done so far to date...
*performed factory reset on Kindle Fire HD 8.9 just to clean it up and get it back to stock
*installed ADB on PC and verified it communicates with the Fire HD (detects device and returns serial number)
*downloaded and installed Total Commander (nice looking file explorer at first glance, BTW)
*sideloaded Root Check and verified device is not rooted
*downloaded the following files to PC but have not yet transferred them to the Fire:
---NewKingrootV5.1.0_C176_B415_en_release_2017_05_11_20170511212237_105203.apk
---fireflash11.apk
---kfhd8-u-boot-prod-8.1.4.bin.img
---kfhd8-freedom-boot-8.4.6.img
---kfhd8-twrp-3.0.2-2-recovery.img
---stack
---SR5-SuperSU-v2.82-SR5-20171001224502.zip
---stericson.busybox.apk
---cm-13.0-20160827-V11-temasek-jem.zip
I think this is everything I need but I'm not yet comfortable enough with my current knowledge level to try rooting and flashing a custom ROM. If you or anybody else could tell me what I should do next or at least point me in the right direction that would be much appreciated. I figure it's better to ask some dumb noob questions now before I attempt anything rather than have to come back later and ask how to unbrick my tablet.
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"Root" is built into the ROM. But, it's not full root. So the ROM maker tells you to Flash SuperSU once the ROM is installed and functioning. You have to do that because you wipe the system (pretty much all of it) before you flash the ROM. That wipes Kingroot, root etc. until you flash the new ROM. You're on the right track exactly. Just make sure your files are placed properly and use FireFlash to install TWRP. Just follow all the steps exactly and it should be successful. The good thing about this method, it doesn't wipe your data to install the recovery.

Okay, DF...thanks. When researching Kingroot & SuperSU I came across a ton of external links about how to get rid of the former if it was used to originally root a device and replace it with the latter. I even found another XDA thread last night where you posted that you yourself spent many hours reading about how to do just that. It seemed like a lot of hoops to jump through so I thought maybe it was better just to use SuperSU to root in the first place and be done with it. But this was all probably before you tried the new ROM you're now using and are apparently liking a lot. It sounds like Temasek's ROM version automatically takes care of most/all of the Kingroot exorcism that gave you such a headache. Apparently on many devices you can install TWRP first and THEN root with SuperSU afterward but I gather the Kindle Fire's funky bootloader unfortunately doesn't permit this.
I'll just keep reading threads over and over again as well as outside reference articles on other sites like I have been so far. Some of it must be finally sinking in because some posts are actually finally starting to make a little sense and in some cases I now understand what a few folks did wrong to cause them problems. When the vast majority of the posts and articles I read make sense and not just some of them then I'll give it a shot. Appreciate the guidance.

Okie dokie, DF...just a quick status report on how we're doing following your new guide. So far, so good...used Kingroot to root the device no problem, verified it was rooted with Root Check, gave Total Commander (which I had installed a few days ago) root access, and downloaded and installed FireFlash. But when I opened the app and clicked on "allow" to have root privilege there was a minor glitch...although I could see the FireFlash menu in the background there was an error message saying it did not have root access and that it was going to close, even though Kingroot verified it as an app that had permission. Tried uninstalling and reinstalling a few times but kept getting the same error message. Finally I simply rebooted the device and it worked fine after that...so if there are any fellow noobs out there who are one step behind me (and heaven help you if you are) you might wanna try a simple reboot during this step if you experience a similar problem to see if that solves it.
Before I do anything else I'm gonna use ADB to create some images of several of the now-rooted stock partitions and save them to my PC just in case I eff something up later on. You did not mention this in your guide but this was summarized nicely by comwiz in his very similar tutorial...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72395624&postcount=55
He also included many screenshots that one will see while following your guides...I found these visual aids to be very helpful in terms of what one could expect to see as you march through all the steps that you guys so graciously spent the time laying out for us newbies. I'm probably gonna hold off on installing TWRP and Temasek's custom ROM for a few days...I wanna read up more about TWRP and fastboot before I take the next baby steps. BTW, like you I just bought another used KFHD 8.9 in almost new condition on eBay today for about the same price that you paid...how's THAT for the ultimate "backup"???
Man, thank God for this XDA forum...no way I try this on my own without all the info and tools and help that experienced folks have taken the time to post here.

CornellEngineer said:
EDITED BY ME, "compjan"
Before I do anything else I'm gonna use ADB to create some images of several of the now-rooted stock partitions and save them to my PC just in case I eff something up later on.
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PLEASE upload those images !!! if you are running 8.5.1 on a 32 gig model I NEED THEM !

compjan said:
PLEASE upload those images !!! if you are running 8.5.1 on a 32 gig model I NEED THEM !
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I wrote a guide on how to flash recovery on 8.5.1 without a computer. Swing around and check it out, its got all the updated files.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ki...t-install-twrp-android-fire-os-8-5-1-t3278286

MeowDude said:
I wrote a guide on how to flash recovery on 8.5.1 without a computer. Swing around and check it out, its got all the updated files.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ki...t-install-twrp-android-fire-os-8-5-1-t3278286
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iRoot doesn't work anymore. At least not when I tried. Regardless of the method used to root, the quicker to get rid of them, the better it makes me feel.

MeowDude said:
I wrote a guide on how to flash recovery on 8.5.1 without a computer. Swing around and check it out, its got all the updated files.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ki...t-install-twrp-android-fire-os-8-5-1-t3278286
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um, i do not have a working 8.9 tablet. i screwed it up and had a red screen of death for a couple years now. i have been off work due to knee surgery and decided to see if there was a working fix. member sd_shadow has me OFF red screen, now i need to get back to stock BEFORE i start playing with it. that way i can fix it right then if i mess it up again.
SO, i need a copy of the 3 partitions to get back to stock.
UNLESS. . . . i can get the partitions out of the 8.5.1 BIN i grabbed from amazon. that is how sd_shadow ( THANK YOU SIR ! ) got me back to a NOT booting but hung at the fire logo. i flashed the bin to SYSTEM and now i need the other 2 partitions.

UPDATE: GOT IT UP AND RUNNING AS 8.1.4 ! ! !
wife wanted it stock, so i loaded the 8.5.1 update from amazon in the root directory of INTERNAL STORAGE. not i a folder. re-booted and it installed the 8.5.1 update. worked fine . . . EXCEPT . . . .
the built-in amazon app store was buggy as hell. so was the silk browser. gapps worked fine until a re-boot. then crashed as soon as i launched play store.
SO. . . . i'm backing up the 3 partitions and going to load a ROM on this puppy.
EDIT: there is a NEWER 8.5.1 "update" at amazon, it will NOT auto install via the "check for updates" button (afaik. and i tried it on 2 different 8.9's) . download it, copy it to the ROOT of the 8.9, not in a folder. reboot. it will install all by it's self. fixed all my stock problems!! END EDIT

I got CM13 installed on my 8.9 but then having issue.
a. Can't boot into custom recovery. With volume down hold + power button -> Kindle Fire orange -> Kindle Fire blue -> then it either boots back into CM13 or getting "Fast boot".
b. In CM13, i don't have root access. How so? Weird. I am always under the impression that every custom image will come with root access. I maybe wrong though.
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Well, my bad was I downloaded the wrong gapps, picked 7.1 instead of 6.0, so I wanted to boot back in recovery to install the correct gapps.

votinh said:
I got CM13 installed on my 8.9 but then having issue.
a. Can't boot into custom recovery. With volume down hold + power button -> Kindle Fire orange -> Kindle Fire blue -> then it either boots back into CM13 or getting "Fast boot".
b. In CM13, i don't have root access. How so? Weird. I am always under the impression that every custom image will come with root access. I maybe wrong though.
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Well, my bad was I downloaded the wrong gapps, picked 7.1 instead of 6.0, so I wanted to boot back in recovery to install the correct gapps.
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If using temasek ROM, you'll have to flash SU. Use 2.7X. then update from play store. Root for regular CM is found in developer options. Settings > about device > tap build number 7 times and go back to Maine settings menu, scroll to bottom. For developer options. Enable root in that menu. Select both apps and ADB.

I am using the CM13 ROM by alexander_32, I guess the same one you're using.
Personally, it isn't as snappy as I wish but I'll give it some more time.
Also, the option to boot into recovery on the menu is so much better than using keys combination. Thumb up for that!

what is the optimal gapps to get from open gapps? there are so many options im not sure which works best on jem.

green_reaper said:
what is the optimal gapps to get from open gapps? there are so many options im not sure which works best on jem.
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I almost always use pico gapps.

DragonFire1024 said:
I almost always use pico gapps.
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so basically for jem im using CM13 (Marshmallow 6.0.1) build by Temasek . and for gapps should I use (platform = ARM , Android 7.0 and pico) ? or is there a better gapps build selection?

green_reaper said:
so basically for jem im using CM13 (Marshmallow 6.0.1) build by Temasek . and for gapps should I use (platform = ARM , Android 7.0 and pico) ? or is there a better gapps build selection?
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Go to opengapps website. Always download the gapps for the corresponding Android version. Always choose ARM.