Develop Bugs

Camera Problem? (not the pink thing!)

Had a very occasional issue with my camera where, after a couple of seconds, the live-view image starts "rolling", sometimes losing a colour channel. It only seems to have happened in "Layar" app so far but that may be co-incidence (I dont use the camera much).
Anyone else having problems like this? I'll try catch it on vid and upload. Just worried that there may be a hardware prob but, like I say, its only occassional.
Also happens in Goggles and normal camera application. Looks like its broken
Grrr, mobiles.co.uk being real unhelpful so far

Tirinoarim said:
Had a very occasional issue with my camera where, after a couple of seconds, the live-view image starts "rolling", sometimes losing a colour channel. It only seems to have happened in "Layar" app so far but that may be co-incidence (I dont use the camera much).
Anyone else having problems like this? I'll try catch it on vid and upload. Just worried that there may be a hardware prob but, like I say, its only occassional.
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Somewhere here someone uploaded a vid from desire that catches crazy colors, most probably it was defected, i will try to find it and post it.
I havent encountered this problem myself, .. but then again, i dont use the camera that much

irkan said:
Somewhere here someone uploaded a vid from desire that catches crazy colors, most probably it was defected, i will try to find it and post it.
I havent encountered this problem myself, .. but then again, i dont use the camera that much
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Do you mean the guy where the images where kinda in negative? I saw that one but this looks completely different. I will try get it on vid but I got to catch it doing it again!

Problem Video
Finally managed to catch the camera problem on Video!
In talks with Mobiles.Co.Uk at the moment about a replacement handset but would be interested to know if anyone else has seen/experienced this?
http://www.tirinoarim.co.uk/VIDEO0001.mp4

Video upload fixed!

Hey there,
Just to let you know, I've had exactly the same issue with my Desire. I contacted O2, and they said that I could get a replacement handset. Despite them mucking me around a bit - the phone is out of stock and they didn't bother to tell me this - it basically confirms that it's a manufacturer's fault.
It would explain why not all handsets are getting this. But if even 1% of all Desires are getting this, that's still a hefty amount. Not widespread enough for places like Engadget to post about it, but annoying enough to ruin the experiences of a fair few HTC customers worldwide.

I got the same issue, too.
Seems more like a software issue. Sometimes ot occures when you point the camera to a bright object. It only happens then in 20-50%.
Do you have to get a new replacement Desire with that?
(threade title says "not the pinkt thing" - but as far as I can see - this IS PINK in your video!)

I got the problem too. Not seen it for around a week now though.
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Today I experienced the same problem. My screen was divided into half, one half being pink and the other in sepia. I disappeared soon though. Also a friend tells me that my photos taken with Desire are way too blurry. Can anyone confirm that by looking at some of them at http://mariotomic.com/blog?
Thanks.

Tirinoarim said:
Video upload fixed!
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Any chance you can tell us how you fixed it for future reference.

GPS on Froyo seriously messed up! Can this be fixed?

There are a few threads on the various Froyo releases, their features bugs etc. but nothing that touches on Froyo's GPS issues specifically.
I'd like to know whether anyone has successfully changed the 'look ahead' behavior that all the Froyo firmwares come with so far.
For those who have not experienced, i.e. not YET noticed this 'feature', here is a brief description:
On Froyo the GPS is showing you exactly where you are even while driving at speed. There is no delay whatsoever. All is well while you are going in a straight line.
The problems begin when you either stop abruptly or take a sharp turn. It then takes the GPS up to a few seconds to come to terms with what just happened. I can only assume this is due to some software component 'smoothing' the path by making up positions, i.e. looking ahead.
I uninstalled JPH and JPK. GPS doesn't do me any good when I see myself still driving down the same road after I took a right turn 5 seconds ago. JM8 and a number of other Eclair firmwares do not suffer from this.
Has anyone successfully 'downgraded' the GPS component of Froyo? Is this even possible? Is there a way to disable the 'look ahead'.....somewhere hidden in settings or some hidden menu?

ewok666 said:
Has anyone successfully 'downgraded' the GPS component of Froyo? Is this even possible? Is there a way to disable the 'look ahead'.....somewhere hidden in settings or some hidden menu?
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Did you turn on the "Use Sensor Aiding" feature? That's new in Froyo. Try turning that off. It's in the Location menu.

hardcore said:
Did you turn on the "Use Sensor Aiding" feature? That's new in Froyo. Try turning that off. It's in the Location menu.
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Thanks. I thought I had that disabled. Is this on by default? I'll give that a try next time I load a Froyo firmware....if there was a quick way to nandroid back without an Odin restore, EFS fixup plus all the Voodoo conversions that would be sooner rather than later ;-)

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Thanks. I thought I had that disabled. Is this on by default? I'll give that a try next time I load a Froyo firmware....if there was a quick way to nandroid back without an Odin restore, EFS fixup plus all the Voodoo conversions that would be sooner rather than later ;-)
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The default is off
It greatly helps when it's on I think

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The default is off
It greatly helps when it's on I think
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Isn't it meant to aid while walking? I can see that this may be causing when driving.

Well, there is absolutely no reason this option to decrease performance.. At least shouldnt be, unless Samsung screwed something up as usual. (which actually may be the case)
I had mine set to "off" by default. There is next to no difference while driving.

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Well, there is absolutely no reason this option to decrease performance.. At least shouldnt be, unless Samsung screwed something up as usual. (which actually may be the case)
I had mine set to "off" by default. There is next to no difference while driving.
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As I said in the OP, I've always had the issue that GPS took seconds to realize that I changed direction or suddenly stopped. I'm just guessing that something that is intended to help stabilize GPS at slow speeds (walking, swimming with the dog, etc.) might cause a similar effect while travelling in a car.

swimming with the dog? I shat bricks ;d
Anyway, yes that right. Since its like phone is calculating from the sensor (compass, g-sensor -> speculating here) reads the approximate direction and pace you are moving at. It *might* be a problem with g-sensor read, becouse I find it quite flaky (using gps testing utilities exposes its terrible lag and low sensitivity)
BTW is it better after disabling it?

xan said:
swimming with the dog? I shat bricks ;d
Anyway, yes that right. Since its like phone is calculating from the sensor (compass, g-sensor -> speculating here) reads the approximate direction and pace you are moving at. It *might* be a problem with g-sensor read, becouse I find it quite flaky (using gps testing utilities exposes its terrible lag and low sensitivity)
BTW is it better after disabling it?
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Well, there was a guy in another thread who claimed his Galaxy GPS was spot on. To proof that he uploaded a track of his walk with the dog and it clearly went right through the river a couple of times........I thought THAT was hilarious! ;-)
I might flash Froyo once again and play with that setting......still hoping that the Galaxy CAN do acceptable GPS. :-|

i'm mostly happy with the gps software on JPK (compared to JM8 which was already better than "official")
but the lag you're speaking about is killing me. there's waaay too much delay. sure it makes nice recorded tracks, but using it you'll see its crap
going to try my track with aiding stuff off tomorrow although im not sure its going to help

Well i am using JPK and the MOTONAV is running......ok, but i got "GPS LOST SIGNAL" every 10 minutes and the map jump around, after 10 seconds it will find signal again and back on track. anoying.

I borrowed an iphone 4 to test that thing's GPS and compare it to the Galaxy.
I have attached the Horror kml track file. It's no better, if not worse, than the Froyo stuff. I certainly did NOT expect that!
The kml can be viewed with Google earth and other GPS programs.....
And for the record....I did drive ON the road at all times ;-)

There is a new trend obviously. The more expensive the phone, the more messed up the GPS. LOL
What a total fail for the high-end devices these days.

bilboa1 said:
i'm mostly happy with the gps software on JPK (compared to JM8 which was already better than "official")
but the lag you're speaking about is killing me. there's waaay too much delay. sure it makes nice recorded tracks, but using it you'll see its crap
going to try my track with aiding stuff off tomorrow although im not sure its going to help
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did not help ;D

bilboa1 said:
did not help ;D
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Bummer......
Maybe they looked at the iPhone and thought it was a great 'feature'.

Oh man, if 2.2 firmware didn't get the GPS issues resolved, then it's pretty much useless for me. I'm happy with the overall phone as it is, minus the GPS issues.

stan28 said:
Oh man, if 2.2 firmware didn't get the GPS issues resolved, then it's pretty much useless for me. I'm happy with the overall phone as it is, minus the GPS issues.
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The GPS issues will NEVER be resolved - it's a hardware problem. You probably just won't ever get Samsung to admit it, now they try those lame "sensor aiding" dirty fixes, but that's just another proof that it's a hardware problem - why else would they spend time doing the sensor aiding?
EDIT: I hope Samsung proves me wrong

MoWa22 said:
The GPS issues will NEVER be resolved - it's a hardware problem. You probably just won't ever get Samsung to admit it, now they try those lame "sensor aiding" dirty fixes, but that's just another proof that it's a hardware problem - why else would they spend time doing the sensor aiding?
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PROVE IT!!! You are presenting hypothesis as fact, and that might be acceptable in places such as Digg, but it is inappropriate on developer websites.
Also, how do you know that sensor aiding required much much work? After all, it's predictable polling from already working/predictable sensors, unlike GPS sensors which pick up a fuzzy idea of where you are, is affected by satellite coverage, etc.
Sensor aiding can assist even GOOD GPS receivers indoors, tunnels and in areas where signal can drop (heavy trees, huge skyscrapers). Yes, even on Garmin units, this can be handy. We all know that the faster you travel the greater inaccuracies which are incurred, and this can help reduce inaccuracies in those scenarios. There are plenty of reasons to implement this functionality, and not all point towards bad hardware. Samsung probably has a few groups of programmers being thrown at different problems, because programmers aren't scalable, and there is a limit to the number of developers which can work on a specific issue/bug/improvement.

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PROVE IT!!! You are presenting hypothesis as fact, and that might be acceptable in places such as Digg, but it is inappropriate on developer websites.
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I can't prove it - but I can use my brains to put together the circumstantial evidence. Sorry if that isn't good enough for you.

MoWa22 said:
I can't prove it - but I can use my brains to put together the circumstantial evidence. Sorry if that isn't good enough for you.
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You SAID "The GPS issues will NEVER be resolved - it's a hardware problem", and spreading random rumors like that makes XDA appear unprofessional, and benefits nobody. I've just simply noticed a recent trend towards guesses being slowly changed to fact here in XDA developers, and I'd like to try to reduce the frequency of that happening

HTC One X Newcomer

Greets all,
Just wanted to say I will be amongst you all by Wed, I got my HTC one X phone in white (after reading the posts about which is better), I always had black, but time for a change.
My Birthday present to myself
One question is does anyone know if the GPS is any better in this phone then prior? I know that in the past my files for the gps have made a vast improvement to the gps, and I was wondering if anyone uses it on this phone or if its even neccessary?

You should have read a little more on here as lots of people have gps not working due to a bug

AngelDeath said:
Greets all,
Just wanted to say I will be amongst you all by Wed, I got my HTC one X phone in white (after reading the posts about which is better), I always had black, but time for a change.
My Birthday present to myself
One question is does anyone know if the GPS is any better in this phone then prior? I know that in the past my files for the gps have made a vast improvement to the gps, and I was wondering if anyone uses it on this phone or if its even neccessary?
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You've got to dig a bit to find most of the GPS complaints, but they're out there. Some minor, some severe. Minor ones fix with an update to aGPS files. Others like mine have major issues holding an accurate location. I'm thinking it's a hardware flaw for those of us with that problem.
Good luck with yours.

Compare with my HD2, which can't fix location indoor near window (I'm in HK), HOX can get the location fixed in around 20s indoor near window, I think it is such a great improvement. However, I didn't check if the gps information is accurate or not.

I'm curious how come you guys are having problems with GPS, it locks faster than my old DHD and pin point my location accurately

Well mine will be obviously the international one and will be testing it out Wed when it comes in. To the ones that have issues, have you tried the files I made for different regions? Most if not all Android phones use a generic gps.conf file, and when the HD2 didnt have agps working properly, I crafted the gps.conf to basically work with the HD2 until the agps driver was rebuilt, but along the way, it turned out that native android phones greatly benefited from the files I made for the HD2 because the agps driver was already there. All my phones (Aria, HD2, Inspire, Vivid) all get gps locks in under 15 seconds outdoors, and near 20 indoors, with the exception of hardware related issues.
Also take something into consideration as well, the ril/radio obviously makes a difference, as well as if you have a casing on your phone, rubber or hard will also hamper your signal, but i will be looking at how well mine handles once it gets here, going to see stock and 2 days later with my file in place.

AngelDeath said:
Greets all,
Just wanted to say I will be amongst you all by Wed, I got my HTC one X phone in white (after reading the posts about which is better), I always had black, but time for a change.
My Birthday present to myself
One question is does anyone know if the GPS is any better in this phone then prior? I know that in the past my files for the gps have made a vast improvement to the gps, and I was wondering if anyone uses it on this phone or if its even neccessary?
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I was shocked how fast GPS lock on is on this phone, I have the International version and I lock on to satellites within 10 seconds. usually when I set up navigation i'll be searching for GPS on average for 5 seconds with no drop outs.
A far cry from the Miserable GPS on my old Desire HD which could take up to a minute or just never connect.

TommUK, most complained about that, but after my file, it was a 180 degree turnaround, mine locks on avg with 5 seconds of turning on any navigation app I have (Sygic, Navigon, Google Maps, or IGO), I use mine quite often, and as soon as I put the phone in the cradle and hit navigon, by the time I hit the map button the lock is already there. I know my daughters HTC Vivid when she got it brand new I tested the gps, couldnt get jack for 5 minutes, so I said F this, she wanted it rooted anyway, rooted it, then put my file in, fired up gps status, downloaded the agps, 15 seconds later lock.
But I'm eager to toy with this baby, cant wait, hate waiting, I want my new toy now! (Damn I sound like that girl from Willy Wonka that wanted a gold laying goose LOL)

I remember using your files on my hd2 and they worked a treat, however gps doesn't work at all on it now sadly. (Nothing to do with your files I might add)
On my one x no such problem, I can get a fix indoors even if I'm not by the window within 30 seconds.
I've navigated to the lake district on a two hour journey without any loss of signal at all.
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The GPS is very good on the One X for acquiring signal and the no of satellites it locks on to.
However, compared to phones can also use Glonass (Russian satellites), the performance is not that good. You can see the test I did comparing the One X to the Galaxy Note here.

AngelDeath said:
TommUK, most complained about that, but after my file, it was a 180 degree turnaround, mine locks on avg with 5 seconds of turning on any navigation app I have (Sygic, Navigon, Google Maps, or IGO), I use mine quite often, and as soon as I put the phone in the cradle and hit navigon, by the time I hit the map button the lock is already there. I know my daughters HTC Vivid when she got it brand new I tested the gps, couldnt get jack for 5 minutes, so I said F this, she wanted it rooted anyway, rooted it, then put my file in, fired up gps status, downloaded the agps, 15 seconds later lock.
But I'm eager to toy with this baby, cant wait, hate waiting, I want my new toy now! (Damn I sound like that girl from Willy Wonka that wanted a gold laying goose LOL)
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The GPS problem that has many returning their phones isn't that the GPS takes too long, it's that it can't maintain a lock or accurate position. Keep the phone perfectly still, not moving at all, and the GPS will still report you as moving at high rates of speed and wandering all over the neighborhood, sometimes many blocks away from your actual position. There's a few vids on youtube demonstrating this.
I've tried a few "fixes", including crypted's and fasterfix from the market; no joy in fixing my phones. GPS is useless for me. I haven't tried your fix, will seek it out, but not anticipating it to fix the issue.

Mine works fine, better than any phone I have used so far.
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OGP any known issues?

Now that the phone has been out for about half a year (1 month in the US), have any annoying/troubling issues been found?
For example, I was told by a manager at AT&T that some people who have the HTC One are complaining that the phone literally gets too hot to hold after "extended" video recording. They've only seen it with a few phones (owned by their salespeople), but it's been reported...
I've read both great and horrible reviews about the camera on the OGP, and I'm wondering if maybe LG is sourcing components from various vendors [something akin to TV manufacturers using display panels made by various manufacturers in models with the identical model number (AKA "the panel lottery")]. If that's correct, then maybe you get a good one and maybe you don't...but that's what I'm trying to find out.
I've read a few reviews/postings that some people had issues with battery life which turned out to be bad batteries. Anyone have that?
So, with that said, is there anything that seems to be out of sorts with the OGP?

The only issue I can find is the Wifi is junk.

raduque said:
The only issue I can find is the Wifi is junk.
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Care to elaborate? I've not noticed any issues with mine.

It connects fine to both my routers, but will not sustain a stable data stream. It also seems far slower than it should be. Speedtest.net app runs about 2-3Mbps.
Sometimes, the test won't even complete, the Wifi will disconnect and reconnect.
It transfers fine for about 5 seconds or so. I just tried watching a free video on Google Play, and every 5 seconds the stream stalled. Web pages take forever to load, and forget about downloading a big app.
I guess I'll have to call AT&T, or visit a store. I paid full retail for this thing.
Edit: My routers are both a little bit older, a Belkin F5D7230-4 WirelessG and a Netgear WGR614V9, but I've never had this type of issue with any other device.
Edit2: I rebooted everything in sight, including (but not limited to) my routers, my cable modem, my switches, my WHS and the OG Pro. Seems to be more stable now, but still a little slow, around 2Mbps downstream.

There's only two issues with the thing, it's too good, and it's only on AT&T.
Seriously, there are a few niggling things.
1. The QSlide bar takes up too much space in the notification shade. Luckily, once you root, there's a fix around here somewhere for it.
2. The side buttons are very VERY shallow, to the point where even if you put on a SKIN the buttons are hard to feel and even get to. Still figuring out what to do about that one.
3. Not enough accessories. This is a very real consequence of it only being available on AT&T here, it's just not going to be as popular with the accessory makers as the Galaxy S4 and HTC One, which are pretty much available on every carrier.

raduque said:
It connects fine to both my routers, but will not sustain a stable data stream. It also seems far slower than it should be. Speedtest.net app runs about 2-3Mbps.
Sometimes, the test won't even complete, the Wifi will disconnect and reconnect.
It transfers fine for about 5 seconds or so. I just tried watching a free video on Google Play, and every 5 seconds the stream stalled. Web pages take forever to load, and forget about downloading a big app.
I guess I'll have to call AT&T, or visit a store. I paid full retail for this thing.
Edit: My routers are both a little bit older, a Belkin F5D7230-4 WirelessG and a Netgear WGR614V9, but I've never had this type of issue with any other device.
Edit2: I rebooted everything in sight, including (but not limited to) my routers, my cable modem, my switches, my WHS and the OG Pro. Seems to be more stable now, but still a little slow, around 2Mbps downstream.
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my WiFi works great and I get a good range. I would look into getting a new router,I had this issue last year with all my Samsung phones once I got a we router things worked out great, Remember tech has a short life span you have to upgrade at times to keep everything on par.
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nthknd said:
my WiFi works great and I get a good range. I would look into getting a new router,I had this issue last year with all my Samsung phones once I got a we router things worked out great, Remember tech has a short life span you have to upgrade at times to keep everything on par.
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Sound seems low on mine, even at full volume.

Shadowjack1965 said:
Sound seems low on mine, even at full volume.
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It blasts my ears off with headphones, but I can easily crank my head unit to max and it's not anywhere near as loud of my NoteII was. I should be able to compensate by adjusting my gains, though.

Clipped voice commands in navigation
I read in another thread that at least 2 users were having issues with the voice commands during navigation. Their issue is that when the OGP speaks a navigation command, the audio stops in mid sentence. The last few words (or parts of the words) are clipped off. Example: instead of "turn left in 4 miles", they are getting, "turn left in 4 m", or instead of "proceed through the roundabout", they get "proceed through the roun".
Is anyone else having this issue? I'd be curious also if your phone is not having the issue.

My email client crashes every time I try to open an email. Used to work. Tried clearing data still crashes. Only problem so far.
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raduque said:
It blasts my ears off with headphones, but I can easily crank my head unit to max and it's not anywhere near as loud of my NoteII was. I should be able to compensate by adjusting my gains, though.
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Wonder if it's just my particular unit somehow. Now I'll have to research adjustments that could make a difference.
Thanks.

Shadowjack1965 said:
Wonder if it's just my particular unit somehow. Now I'll have to research adjustments that could make a difference.
Thanks.
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It could also be your headphones. I'm using a pair of Samsung OEM S3/NoteII headphones (all the controls work correctly).
When I mentioned adjustments, I meant to the amps in my truck, where 90% of my listening takes place.

I posted above about some users getting clipped voice instructions with navigation. I have not tried that yet but i found another voice issue. I don't know if it is due to an app or the phone. Using an NFC app (NFC Task Launcher), i have it set to read the time aloud when i tap an NFC tag to set my alarm. When it reads the time, it clips off the minutes and only reads the hours. For example, if i set the time for 11:30, all it says is "eleven", and cuts off the "thirty". Anyone else having voice issues?

Only actual issue I have is with the search feature in the contacts. When typing a name, it seems to reset or clear out the search field when you type more than 3 characters.
Anyone else seeing this?
Other than that, I love this phone. (I don't consider the slow progress on unlocking the bootloader to be an issue. The DEVs will crack this thing shortly. (They do have lives.)
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This phone is so far so good. The only thing I find uncomfortable is that when you exit your favorites tab from your phone app either by back or home button, and then when you hit phone again, it always brings you to the dial tab. It's kinda annoying since I never had that happen to me before on other phones.

There ARE issues with the GPS

I'm sure people are going to flame me and adamantly disagree, but please hear me out. No one wants this to be wrong more than me. I really like this phone, but I can't live with a broken GPS.
I have tested this two days in a row. I go to work for 9 hours, all radios are on. I never turn the GPS off. When I get home, I change clothes and go on a four mile walk. I use Runtastic to track this. Two days in a row, the GPS symbol comes up, but never stops blinking. If I toggle GPS off and back on, it gets a lock immediately and the GPS icon stops blinking. It will hold the lock for the rest of the walk. Rinse and repeat. Launching Maps or GPS test does not help it get a fix. It stays blinking until I toggle the GPS off/on.
The moral here is that I would have to toggle the GPS off/on every day before I walk. I have not tested this with navigation yet because I ride a motorcycle most days, but I intend to before sending it back. This is strangely similar to the (known) issues that my AT&T Note 3 had.
Please tell me that some of you have seen this. I don't see how it could be a faulty unit. My GS5, G3, and Z3c do not have this issue under the exact same circumstances. The GS5 being the most similar in hardware/software.

I used GPS in the car today and it never lost a lock. I haven't used the app that you speak of however. Is there anything that I can do to help test?

This happened to my note 3. The GPS chip was bad. The hardware was the problem. If you call att they can connect to your phone remotely and see what percentage you are connecting the GPS chip. They told me I was only getting 60%. Sent me a new phone within 2 days...

WizeGuyDezignz said:
I used GPS in the car today and it never lost a lock. I haven't used the app that you speak of however. Is there anything that I can do to help test?
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Good to know it didn't lose the lock on your drive. My Note 3 used to jump around all over the place.
Honestly, I'm not sure what you could do. I don't think it's the app. When it gets like this, Maps, GPS Test, etc. will not get a solid lock until I toggle GPS off and on. The only reason I notice it on Runtastic is because that's when I use the GPS every day.
Something is happening with the GPS chip. It's either going to sleep and not waking up, or it's getting stuck on old GPS data or something. Like I said, I can reproduce it every day just by using it normally and then trying to use the GPS when I get home from work.

b0Ne83 said:
This happened to my note 3. The GPS chip was bad. The hardware was the problem. If you call att they can connect to your phone remotely and see what percentage you are connecting the GPS chip. They told me I was only getting 60%. Sent me a new phone within 2 days...
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Yeah, I had the Note 3, but from what I read it was software. I never did get my unit replaced and I sold it that way.
I bought my Note 4 through Amazon, so I'll have to do a return through them, if it really is defective.

It's possible. I hope you can get it to work. My note 4 is running flawless

Here's the thing too, guys. After I toggle the GPS off/on, the thing works flawlessly for the rest of the evening and through most of the next day. Like, it gets a lock inside within seconds.
That's the thing. It's not that it doesn't work at all. It just sort of goes on strike at the same time every night and has to be woken up again.
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How can anyone here, including me, make declarative statements about what a device that's been out less than a week is or isn't doing across the board? Here's my GPS experience and I use it a lot. I use "GPS only" with Wi-Fi and carrier network sensing turned off. The GPS is slow on first lock; slower than my Note 3 was. Once it's locked it stays locked with the exception of losing signal when it encounters obstructions. That's normal and a byproduct of GPS technology not anything specific to the Note 3 or 4. I never had the issues with my Note 3's GPS that some people reported. Other than the slower initial lock I'd say, based on my experiences, the Note 4's GPS is significantly more stable and better at holding a signal. I use Here Beta a lot and the only other issue I've encountered is when the app's out of focus and comes back to the foreground it takes about a second for it to reorient itself. All that said I'd rather have the Note 4's GPS than the Note 3's (keeping in mind my Note 3's GPS served me well).

BarryH_GEG said:
How can anyone here, including me, make declarative statements about what a device that's been out less than a week is or isn't doing across the board? Here's my GPS experience and I use it a lot. I use "GPS only" with Wi-Fi and carrier network sensing turned off. The GPS is slow on first lock; slower than my Note 3 was. Once it's locked it stays locked with the exception of losing signal when it encounters obstructions. That's normal and a byproduct of GPS technology not anything specific to the Note 3 or 4. I never had the issues with my Note 3's GPS that some people reported. Other than the slower initial lock I'd say, based on my experiences, the Note 4's GPS is significantly more stable and better at holding a signal. I use Here Beta a lot and the only other issue I've encountered is when the app's out of focus and comes back to the foreground it takes about a second for it to reorient itself. All that said I'd rather have the Note 4's GPS than the Note 3's (keeping in mind my Note 3's GPS served me well).
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I was actually just hoping that someone may have noticed similar behavior. I always seem to be the first to discover issues because I get my phone early and really test it. Often times, I post something like this and no one replies or reports the same issue, then months later a new thread blows up about it or my thread gets resurrected. I'm just trying to determine if this is a real issue so I can return the phone, if necessary. I can't life with a buggy GPS. I use it way too much.

It takes about 5 seconds to get a gps lock for me. And about another 10 to get the most accurate reception.
This is indoors, just tested it in my bedroom.

harlenm said:
It takes about 5 seconds to get a gps lock for me. And about another 10 to get the most accurate reception.
This is indoors, just tested it in my bedroom.
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Yeah, well thanks, but that's really not the issue here.

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Yeah, well thanks, but that's really not the issue here.
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The topic is gps and initial locking, which I commented that I'm not having the issue.
If the OP is, then it's possible he has a defective device since I don't see that issue.

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The topic is gps and initial locking, which I commented that I'm not having the issue.
If the OP is, then it's possible he has a defective device since I don't see that issue.
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The topic is GPS and occasional initial locking. Mine works fine when it works, but it's situational. Telling me that yours locks fine doesn't help me because mine does too, right now.
I'm trying to see if anyone else is experiencing times when the GPS simply stops working until they toggle it off and back on.

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I was actually just hoping that someone may have noticed similar behavior. I always seem to be the first to discover issues because I get my phone early and really test it. Often times, I post something like this and no one replies or reports the same issue, then months later a new thread blows up about it or my thread gets resurrected. I'm just trying to determine if this is a real issue so I can return the phone, if necessary. I can't life with a buggy GPS. I use it way too much.
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I wasn't being "*****y" at you on purpose. For some reason the Note 4's forums have had a large number of "gate," "OMG!!!," and threads liberally using the royal "we" with much of what's said being baseless or exaggerative. My tone was carry over from the thread on the international forum where a guy launched a "Pen-gate" thread complete with video because his cheap-ass magnetic case was causing S Pen dead spots. So apologies. Notebook Check does thorough GPS testing and their review of the Note 4 should be up soon. Here's a sample from the Xperia Z3 Compact.
They tested the Note 3's GPS here...
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-3-SM-N9005-Smartphone.104798.0.html

I just finished a 1700 MI trip I lost location once but it was in the back woods of Iowa. Much better than the note 3 I owned.

BarryH_GEG said:
I wasn't being "*****y" at you on purpose. For some reason the Note 4's forums have had a large number of "gate," "OMG!!!," and threads liberally using the royal "we" with much of what's said being baseless or exaggerative. My tone was carry over from the thread on the international forum where a guy launched a "Pen-gate" thread complete with video because his cheap-ass magnetic case was causing S Pen dead spots. So apologies. Notebook Check does thorough GPS testing and their review of the Note 4 should be up soon. Here's a sample from the Xperia Z3 Compact.
They tested the Note 3's GPS here...
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-3-SM-N9005-Smartphone.104798.0.html
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Thanks, man. It may just be something in my environment or software setup, but it's definitely odd.
I see you on here a lot and I've always found you to be helpful, so no harm no foul.

I was having issues with my phone holding a lock too. It would find satellites, but would keep dropping out every couple of seconds.
I downloaded the "GPS Test" app, updated AGPS data from the settings menu, and now it locks and stays locked 100% of the time. And locks really fast, too.
May not help anyone else, but thought I would share.
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I had a bad GPS chip in my Note 3, it wouldn't get a lock. Seems to work great on my Note4 so far, I use Waze every day driving to and from work.
One thing though is that if you have GPS accuracy set to also use WiFi/mobile networks you will drop GPS a LOT, that was something I noticed as it tried to lock onto WiFi carriers. I turned this off and only use GPS for accuracy and it works perfectly with the usual caveats, tunnels etc.

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That's the thing. It's not that it doesn't work at all. It just sort of goes on strike at the same time every night and has to be woken up again.
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I haven't seen this myself. I just checked Google Maps and it displays my location immediately, without my having toggled the GPS today.
So I believe that you're having a hardware problem, but luckily it's not inherent in the Note 4, so you should be able to exchange for one with a properly working GPS.

Okay, guys. I'm an idiot. Turns out that this is all Runtastic. As long as the app is open in the background (during my runs/walks), the GPS icon blinks. Even opening Maps, GPS test, etc. will not give me a solid lock. As soon as I kill Runtastic, though, all is fine. It would seem that this is just how Runtastic uses the GPS and it overrides everything else. I had to do further testing to figure this out, but it would appear that I jumped the gun. For that, I apologize. I'm just glad I don't have to send my Note 4 back.
Thanks to everyone who participated.
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