i have setcpu and the lost rogue v1.3 and i what to put it at 1704 MHz but it freezes or reboots, so what could i do? what voltage?
You can try upping the voltage, not every phone will run at the highest speeds. Overclocking is luck of the draw, not every processor will react the same. My phone requires 1550mv @1.6 to be stable and 1.7 is not stable. There is no real advantage to running the processor this high anyways. 1.2-1.4 is the sweetspot, 1.2 does everything the phone needs to and you usually have room to underclock, to increase battery life and usability of the phone. Benchmarks can be fun but imo, stable phone @ lower voltage > semi-stable benchmark monster @ high voltage.
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You can try upping the voltage, not every phone will run at the highest speeds. Overclocking is luck of the draw, not every processor will react the same. My phone requires 1550mv @1.6 to be stable and 1.7 is not stable. There is no real advantage to running the processor this high anyways. 1.2-1.4 is the sweetspot, 1.2 does everything the phone needs to and you usually have room to underclock, to increase battery life and usability of the phone. Benchmarks can be fun but imo, stable phone @ lower voltage > semi-stable benchmark monster @ high voltage.
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Agreed, I have tried all sorts of overclocking and always go back to 1.352 or 1.2 because of stability. Sure you can bump it up and get high benchmarks, but who cares it is just a number. I would much rather have lower numbers and a stable phone.
I am running New Senzation ROM with the Desparado Kernel and I am running smooth and blazing fast at 1600. I actually can run at 1704 but dont like to overclock to that speed for very long but havent had any crashes.
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I am running New Senzation ROM with the Desparado Kernel and I am running smooth and blazing fast at 1600. I actually can run at 1704 but dont like to overclock to that speed for very long but havent had any crashes.
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Wanna trade phones? I wonder if you could push it higher? I can get mine to run at 1.7, but it will eventually crash within a few minutes. 1.4 seemed to be the most stable (and got the best quadrants) , but I don't bother OC'ing anymore. The phone runs fine without it. I don't really ee the point. I do notice some lag hear and there at 1.6.
I almost always am in the 800mhz range and rarely does my phone jump to 1ghz and definately almost never hits 1.2ghz. Besides trying to get your phone to give you some meaningless number as far as the real world is concerned ( quads) there is zero reason to ever overclock THIS phone. This phone has better battery life than iPhone with a slightly higher clock which is awesome. It actually performs the best of any phone to date. People conatantly hate on apple so hard to the point that when apple actually does something thats honestly great people still see the cup half empty with them. Apple has some of the best battery life of any smart phone to date. It also is one of the smoothest UI's out. They are a smart company and have great hardware. The example i like and cheer them on for is there way of using there cpu in a certain way. They have a really beefy cpu and then they underclock it quite a bit so it just sips battery power. Yes apple doesnt actually multi task so its easier for them to achieve battery life this way easier and it requires more cpu to run our phones as they have REAL multi tasking but i use the same idea. I underclock my phone to run at 800mhz till i reach 80% cpu load then bump to 1ghz. I never have my phone shutter or lag. The GPU is a monster. I get sooo much more battery life out of it. Overclocking is nearly pointless as a daily driver on this phone. In the past with my HTC Eris and HTC Evo 4g i had to overclock as muCh as possibly due to lack of a powerfull CPU and GPU but this phone (just like iPhone) has more than enough muscle and should be under clock 200mhz with no ill effect at all. Thia phone truely is the first legit android device in my eyes because it has more than enough under the hood. Underclock 200mhz and undervolt -75 and this phone truely shines and comes out #1 phone today in ALL areas. Smoothest scroling, lagless and best battery life to date. I love this phone and my set up
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I almost always am in the 800mhz range and rarely does my phone jump to 1ghz and definately almost never hits 1.2ghz. Besides trying to get your phone to give you some meaningless number as far as the real world is concerned ( quads) there is zero reason to ever overclock THIS phone. This phone has better battery life than iPhone with a slightly higher clock which is awesome. It actually performs the best of any phone to date. People conatantly hate on apple so hard to the point that when apple actually does something thats honestly great people still see the cup half empty with them. Apple has some of the best battery life of any smart phone to date. It also is one of the smoothest UI's out. They are a smart company and have great hardware. The example i like and cheer them on for is there way of using there cpu in a certain way. They have a really beefy cpu and then they underclock it quite a bit so it just sips battery power. Yes apple doesnt actually multi task so its easier for them to achieve battery life this way easier and it requires more cpu to run our phones as they have REAL multi tasking but i use the same idea. I underclock my phone to run at 800mhz till i reach 80% cpu load then bump to 1ghz. I never have my phone shutter or lag. The GPU is a monster. I get sooo much more battery life out of it. Overclocking is nearly pointless as a daily driver on this phone. In the past with my HTC Eris and HTC Evo 4g i had to overclock as muCh as possibly due to lack of a powerfull CPU and GPU but this phone (just like iPhone) has more than enough muscle and should be under clock 200mhz with no ill effect at all. Thia phone truely is the first legit android device in my eyes because it has more than enough under the hood. Underclock 200mhz and undervolt -75 and this phone truely shines and comes out #1 phone today in ALL areas. Smoothest scroling, lagless and best battery life to date. I love this phone and my set up
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What Effect for Xperia play????
sry my bad English
Your phone would be a little snappier and run smoother. I think the stock 1ghz already runs rather nice but at 1.2ghz you would benchmark faster and certains games would run smoother. You can o/c up to 2ghz with doomlords kernel but at 1.2ghz you will be a little faster and have no worries!
what the heck, i'll never try up to 2 ghz even for 1 second, i'm afraid the cpu's gonna melt like a sunbathing dracula
1.2 Ghz no damage CPU???
pelly_jelly said:
what the heck, i'll never try up to 2 ghz even for 1 second, i'm afraid the cpu's gonna melt like a sunbathing dracula
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I would say its safe, I o/c to 2.016ghz (highest slot in dooms kernel) and then I set max/min both to 2.016ghz and I left it there for about an hour, during the hour I ran 20+ quadrant benchmarks between texting and the phone got normally warm I would say it was Not hot but I wouldnt run it that fast all day then it would more then likely melt lol
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1.2 Ghz no damage CPU???
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No I dont think so, you should be OK , im running min @ 122mhz and max @ 1.86ghz " on demand" and no profiles set. Battery drops faster but I can still make it through the day without needing a charge.
I use 1.2GHz as standard during the day and no problems here
i too am currently on an 1.2 overclocked x10 (waiting for sony ericsson to ship my xplay to expansys then to me, praying god it will).
i know this is kinda OT, but considering what we're saying here and this whole overclocking business, sony ericssons arc S is really an ...interesting device
Wonder what the heck is going inside those people's head.
Higher you overclock = faster phone + worse battery life + potential of reducing the life of your phones cpu
However 1.2ghz is a pretty safe amount to overclock too.
Have mine over clocked to 1.2ghz, didn't really see a huge difference though.
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Have mine over clocked to 1.2ghz, didn't really see a huge difference though.
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i thing somegames smooth than 1 Ghz
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I would say its safe, I o/c to 2.016ghz (highest slot in dooms kernel) and then I set max/min both to 2.016ghz and I left it there for about an hour, during the hour I ran 20+ quadrant benchmarks between texting and the phone got normally warm I would say it was Not hot but I wouldnt run it that fast all day then it would more then likely melt lol
No I dont think so, you should be OK , im running min @ 122mhz and max @ 1.86ghz " on demand" and no profiles set. Battery drops faster but I can still make it through the day without needing a charge.
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Clockspeeds dont kill CPU's voltages do! Be warned now overclocking to 2ghz will significantly lower the lifespan of your SOC. At 2ghz you run the risk of frying your chip too, you'll be pumping close to 3x the amount of voltage the chip was designed for.
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I don't really find that OCing to 1.2ghz really makes the phone much faster. I only notice a real difference after 1.3ghz.. but for a good median between a little extra power & not so much battery drainage 1.2ghz should be just fine. Personally, I'd never go above 1.5ghz though
My phone has never gone above 1.5 GHz without crashing, but that's fine. I don't think there will be a need to clock it higher in the future.
I think the phone runs fine at 1ghz o/c really doesent do much for normal usage and stock speed runs fpse and playstation games just fine. 2ghz was just fun being clocked like a dual core phone. Also to see how fast it would short bench on setcpu and how good of a quadrant score it would produce compared to a dual core phone. I was getting 98ms in setcpu and 2564 in quadrant when running at 2ghz.
im now using a custom rom with the overclock kernel... i set my phone to "1.4ghz" with AnTuTu... its working great now... no more fps lags on the games i play... and no crashes... im just curious about one thing? will it break the phone in any way? its not heating up or anything atm... i mean i have experienced phone heat on my sensation xe... that phone gets really hot STOCK....
i dont want to break my play... i really like it compared to other phones in the market right now(the only one with gamepads)... its my first time ocing a phone btw...
If its not noticably hot (the battery too) constantly then your fine, just bare in mind try not to push it past 1.6ghz i found my phone didnt last very long at that speed.
The only thing with oc its that it shortens the life of your cpu obviously depending on how much you oc it....and it drains more battery but its not that big of a deal
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If its not noticably hot (the battery too) constantly then your fine, just bare in mind try not to push it past 1.6ghz i found my phone didnt last very long at that speed.
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what do you mean by it didnt last very long? did it break the phone?
Basically, my phone is overclocked to 2.0 GHz with smartass scaling with max 800MHz interactive scaling when screen turned off. It works great! Lasts 2~3 days without gaming (5 to 7 days with airplane mode on) and 4~8 hours of hardcore gaming with full charge (6~12 with airplane mode on). I recommend using an extended battery (I haven't, yet) if you are doing so. And it also involves luck. Even if it is the same model, color, etc. some CPUs are more capable than others.
still testing my phone under 1.4ghz seems stable...
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Basically, my phone is overclocked to 2.0 GHz with smartass scaling with max 800MHz interactive scaling when screen turned off. It works great! Lasts 2~3 days without gaming (5 to 7 days with airplane mode on) and 4~8 hours of hardcore gaming with full charge (6~12 with airplane mode on). I recommend using an extended battery (I haven't, yet) if you are doing so. And it also involves luck. Even if it is the same model, color, etc. some CPUs are more capable than others.
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is it normal for the phone to be abit hotter than when it was running stock???
btw how does smartass compare to ondemand?? smartass tends to get lower benchmark scores than on demand
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is it normal for the phone to be abit hotter than when it was running stock???
btw how does smartass compare to ondemand?? smartass tends to get lower benchmark scores than on demand
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Yes ofc its normal - as each CPU/GPU creates heat based on the load it takes....
So the higher u OC the hotter it gets - thats why in former days OC was quite dangerous
In todays times cpu normaly 1st get unstable, and then has a safety function to shutdown if it gets too hot. (no warrenty that its the same for all chips)
smartass doesnt switch frequencies at once like on demand (e.g. instant from 200mhz to 1000mhz) but it tries to predict the needed power somehow so the whole switching is done in more steps... (as far as I remember)
So yes its performace is a bit below the on demand - but should not be that noticable - but it will also save your battery.
Gello guys,
(I'm on MooDed ICS 1.0.2)
I wanted to know what kernel(s) is (are) the best to overclock the Arc and to what frequency can I go with the phone stable? I'm actually on InFamous Kernel ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1843532 ) But I'm not overclock. I was before on DooM Kernel and overclock to 1.2 gh/z.
Thanks a lot! (And sorry for my bad English, I do my best)
It all depends on your phone. Even though there all made the same, some of the processors can not handle the same amount of OC as other do. The way to test which runs most stable is to slowly up the frequency every hour or so, and test it to see if it's stable.
If your phone starts to random reboot, then it's probably best that you choose the lower frequency to what you are using when it reboots.
I'm using inFamous Kernel too, its overclocked to 1.5.
1.4 should be theoretically safe as that the speed that the Arc S runs at with the same processor
EDIT: I don't recommend passing 1.5 on the Arc as it will very quickly burn out the processor. (Even at 1.5, it's running 50% more than what it was originally designed for).
Overclocking will also reduce your battery life. So it's swings and roundabouts depending on if you want performance or battery life.
Hope I helped
Over cloking is realy affect to battery life and all so the head will get increase,
am always usting 1.2Hz.i think it is enough to have a smoooth run for a xperia smart phone while saving the battery and reducing the risk
Ok thanks guys! I'll try all I can. I'm now overclocked to 1.2 ghz and battery life is good for me, because I recharge it all night. At 1.4 ghz, it's stable normally but the CPU is hot (very hot) and I don't want to burn it. But is it normal? Because Arc S is on this frequency and isn't normally so hot
So Thanks one more time!
Yeah, don't worry about it getting warm. If it gets really hot, then I'd recommend to stop using it for a while. Simply to let it cool down.
Mine can get to the point when it feels it's going to melt the plastic on the back yet it still works perfectly, so yeah i'd say its normal. There's also a ton of older threads about how much peoples arc's heat up when it's being used.
The reason why the processor gets so hot is because there is very little heat sink because of how thin the arc is.
Obviously the more you overclock the hotter the processor will get. The hotter the processor gets, the more quickly the CPU will burn out. If you don't like to replace your phone every few years, don't overclock it to the limit.
You should OC stable at 1.2 - 1.4 GHZ
Ah ok thanks.. I like to change it every year / 2 years. And now I'll try Puissant phone like GS3 and others.
I've overclocked it to 1.6 and it's stable (fast..) and hot. But I'll follow your advices. Thanks a lot!
dont overclock over 1.4Ghz if you have arc and you can always undervolt to save some battery juice
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dont overclock over 1.4Ghz if you have arc and you can always undervolt to save some battery juice
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Ok, but I didn't find thé option to undervolt where is it?
Thanks
U need apps for undervolting such as setxperia, voltage control, etc.. Reduce the voltage and test it for few mins then again lower the value until ur phone auto restarts. Tats the threshold value
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Is it possible to undervolt it if it's overclocked?
Thanks
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Is it possible to undervolt it if it's overclocked?
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yea obv..undervolting means supplying less voltage to the cpu at specific frequency. it doesnt matter at wat frequency the phone is running
It might work fine well above 1.4 depending on the quality of the CPU you have in your device. I am fortunate enough to be able to overclock an xperia arc to 1.8 GHz and have been running at this clock for 6 months. Even gaming at lengthy time with charger plugged in works fine.
I do not game every day and just listening to music, talking on the phone, texting, reading a webpage or watching a video will not run the CPU at full speed all the time. Battery live if also fine for my usage 1-3 days. I prefer a snappy and responsive phone.
Running at very high clock speeds is at your own risc, the cpu chip design should be able to handle the high temperatures. I have allways overclocked my phones and have not yet been able to kill any of them, maybe I have just been lucky. There could be a poor soldering that breaks when it heats up, only push it to the limits if you can afford paying for a new phone
1,6 GHz on XArc by Sirkay = epic speed.
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So I tried to underclock my One X to around 640 MHz and it was running VERY smoothly and stable with only 2 cores active. I was using the ViperX 2.2.1 ROM and the Kernel was the no OC NCX 0.99a. The battery life wasn't bad, but has anyone tried underclocking to 1 GHz or lower? If so, how is the battery life and what kernel and ROM did you use?
With SetCPU you can change the max. CPU, but why should you? When the phone doesn't need much processor power, it just scales down by itself.
So, it already has the best underclocker there is.
Mayby you could try undervolting to save even more battery, but that means the CPU can be somewhat less steady.
im trying to get my head around UVing / UCing my HOX. is there any guide around? im trying to search through the forum but still no luck.
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im trying to get my head around UVing / UCing my HOX. is there any guide around? im trying to search through the forum but still no luck.
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underclocking means the CPU runs slower so should use less battery but slower CPU speeds also means to takes longer to preform tasks which could use more battery, check on google most places say its not worth it as that battery saved is tiny and not worth the drop in CPU performance.
undervolting however lowers the voltage that CPU uses while working this does save power and also lowers heat (less voltage less heat) but if you lower it to much then the CPU becomes unstable due to lack of power and well crashes and restarts the phone in most cases.
to get the best out of undervolting you need to lock the max CPU speed to each step (CPU speed, 300mhz, 600mhz and so on) and slower the voltage and then run a bench mark (like antutu) and see if its stable, if it is you lower the voltage again and repeat until it crashes at which point you have found the lowest voltage that the clock speed can handle so you jump up a voltage then more on to the next speed.
it takes along time but that would get you the best undervolt your phone and hardware could handle.
or you can just use the global to lower the voltage for every speed, this is much faster and much less time consuming but you don't get the most out of it.
for this you basically drop the voltage then use your phone for different things; browsing, games, benchmark and see if it crashes if not lower again till it does then go back up a step.
thanks for explaining. I'm getting some of the points that I missed Awhile ago. I guess I'm going to try the longer way of doing it.
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Missing that buttery smoothness on my Sprint GNex so I decided on Lean Kernel and I went ahead and decided to overclock. I'm new to it, so I had a few questions. One, how safe is it? This is an on-contract device that I'm 6 months into. Will overclocking damage the device long-term? I'm set to 1350 right now and I don't plan on going higher considering it's got the butter back now. Secondly, what is a good temperature to have it go back to 1200 on? I don't know what's a good temperature for a battery is, again thinking about long-term health (although batteries are replaceable so this is less of an issue). If someone would be kind enough to fill me on on those, it would be greatly appreciated.
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Missing that buttery smoothness on my Sprint GNex so I decided on Lean Kernel and I went ahead and decided to overclock. I'm new to it, so I had a few questions. One, how safe is it? This is an on-contract device that I'm 6 months into. Will overclocking damage the device long-term? I'm set to 1350 right now and I don't plan on going higher considering it's got the butter back now. Secondly, what is a good temperature to have it go back to 1200 on? I don't know what's a good temperature for a battery is, again thinking about long-term health (although batteries are replaceable so this is less of an issue). If someone would be kind enough to fill me on on those, it would be greatly appreciated.
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Safe? I don't know, but I've always overclocked my devices if possible, from computers to routers, and none of them has died on me. Not sure about "safe" battery operating temperatures either, but my only gauge is my fingers when I actually feel the device too hot to touch (this happens ONLY when I try to overclock to 1728-1804MHz; the device freezes and the area around the camera with the backcover off becomes untouchably hot).
Both Lean Kernel and Franco Kernel run stable for me at 1612MHz, using Interactive governor. Beyond that Franco freezes. Lean Kernel is buggy when setting the GPU at 512MHz, and visual artifacts suddenly appear. Franco Kernel actually has the GPU automatically overclocked to 512MHz contrary to what it says under "Advanced", and it only overclocks when needed.
At first, overclocking beyond 1200MHz gave me WORSE results in Antutu benchmark. But StabilityTest measured much greater "Raw CPU MFLOPS" when overclocking. Overclocking to me is mostly placebo: it makes me feel so much better with the thought that I'm getting more than my money's worth. In some cases however I can see some significant results, such as my Allwinner A31 chipset retina tablet running at stock 1GHz quadcore--at 1.2GHz the difference in performance/responsiveness is quite noticeable.