This phone seems to be rather sensitive to 'parroting' in VoIP apps like Skype and CSIP. In fact the parrot is rather clear, much clearer than expected. It seems to be fine during regular voice calls.
Is this because the VoIP apps aren't handling the noise cancellation microphone correctly and it's feeding back through the line? Is there any fix to this aside from the echo cancellation built into the app?
I fear that there isn't too much you can do, apart from checking that both your and the party you are calling don't have their volume turned up too much - most echos on VOIP lines are caused that way in my experience.
I've tried almost a half dozen different versions of groove ip now. But everyone complains that my voice sounds staticy/robotic.
Happens on wifi and 4G. I have tried using both outgoing and incoming audio processing on older versions. So far nothing has fixed it. Their voice sounds crystal clear to me though.
What settings do you use?
bout the same for me. GrooVe IP doesn't use the best codecs in the world and its really just trial and error to get it to work best for your setup. I wouldn't expect it to work regularly on 3G, and definitely not 100% on WiFi.
You could try Talkatone, I've had a bit better success there. They use better codecs.
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bout the same for me. GrooVe IP doesn't use the best codecs in the world and its really just trial and error to get it to work best for your setup. I wouldn't expect it to work regularly on 3G, and definitely not 100% on WiFi.
You could try Talkatone, I've had a bit better success there. They use better codecs.
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It worked fine for me on my garbage optimus v lol. At least on wifi. I don't understand why it'd be worse on such better hardware...
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These are the settings I use that seem to work best for me on the newest version of groove. I only use it on wifi normally, but I have used it in a strong HSPA+ area and had good results as well. No one has complained about sounding robotic or anything. The one thing I notice is the delay. there's nothing I can do to get rid of the extra delay so far, but i don't use the phone that often so I'm fine with it. My family and friends mostly use Voxer and text now adays lol.
Audio/echo: I DONT use any echo cancel.never works well for me.
Speak volume 3
Mic gain 1
Trouble shooting: audio processing ON
Sunch voic ON
Mic buffer SMALL: reduces delay for me
mic source auto
and thats it. If I didn't mention a setting then I have it off or it's not relevant like ringtone stuff.
frigidazzi said:
These are the settings I use that seem to work best for me on the newest version of groove. I only use it on wifi normally, but I have used it in a strong HSPA+ area and had good results as well. No one has complained about sounding robotic or anything. The one thing I notice is the delay. there's nothing I can do to get rid of the extra delay so far, but i don't use the phone that often so I'm fine with it. My family and friends mostly use Voxer and text now adays lol.
Audio/echo: I DONT use any echo cancel.never works well for me.
Speak volume 3
Mic gain 1
Trouble shooting: audio processing ON
Sunch voic ON
Mic buffer SMALL: reduces delay for me
mic source auto
and thats it. If I didn't mention a setting then I have it off or it's not relevant like ringtone stuff.
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What version are you running? I'll try these settings later...
colonelcack said:
What version are you running? I'll try these settings later...
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What ever the newest from play store is
frigidazzi said:
These are the settings I use that seem to work best for me on the newest version of groove. I only use it on wifi normally, but I have used it in a strong HSPA+ area and had good results as well. No one has complained about sounding robotic or anything. The one thing I notice is the delay. there's nothing I can do to get rid of the extra delay so far, but i don't use the phone that often so I'm fine with it. My family and friends mostly use Voxer and text now adays lol.
Audio/echo: I DONT use any echo cancel.never works well for me.
Speak volume 3
Mic gain 1
Trouble shooting: audio processing ON
Sunch voic ON
Mic buffer SMALL: reduces delay for me
mic source auto
and thats it. If I didn't mention a setting then I have it off or it's not relevant like ringtone stuff.
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These settings result in an echo on their end while on wifi. (see edit, might have just been because I was calling my friend on tmobile)
If I turn on the basic echo canceler the other person cannot hear me at all.
If i turn on the adaptive echo cancellation and use post processing and echo tail set to 0-200ms. They say the echo goes away (even on my friends tmobile phone) but THEN my voice becomes "staticy"
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if i turn off all echo cancellation (fixes staticy voice) and turn the mic gain volume down to -2 then the echo is gone if I call some numbers. Then I tried my friend on tmobile and he still has an echo. But he says it goes away if I call a landline....
ugh! it was never this hard to figure out on my old optimus v. Why they can't figure out the echo processing settings for such a nice piece of hardware is beyond me...especially seeing as how groove ip posted about BUYING a galaxy nexus for settings testing on their facebook months ago!
Sorry to hear that my friend. Out works ok for me. All of the echo settings caused heading issues for me
frigidazzi said:
Sorry to hear that my friend. Out works ok for me. All of the echo settings caused heading issues for me
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You don't have people complain about an echo only some of the time? ie. only certain providers/phones...
Nope. But I don't talk a lot on it so maybe people just aren't anything.
Many forum members use CSipSimple+GNex, but I have not been able to switch from Sipdroid to CSipSimple due to an echo issue with speaker phone mode.
I am running Stock 4.1.1 with a low-latency patch.
Anyone have some settings they use with CSipSimple so not only normal phone use, but also speaker phone work well without echo problems?
Thanks in advance!
whitedragonz83 said:
Many forum members use CSipSimple+GNex, but I have not been able to switch from Sipdroid to CSipSimple due to an echo issue with speaker phone mode.
I am running Stock 4.1.1 with a low-latency patch.
Anyone have some settings they use with CSipSimple so not only normal phone use, but also speaker phone work well without echo problems?
Thanks in advance!
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Have you tried the latest version? I was using Sipdroid, and the built in Android SIP function, but the latest version of CSipSimple is outstanding, and better than both. Change to expert mode, and play around with the echo settings in the 'Media' section.
There are tons of options, and you may be able to fix your issues there. Also, try a new codec. Speex works well if you're calling over 4g/3g or you have high latency. What "low latency patch" are you using?
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Have you tried the latest version? I was using Sipdroid, and the built in Android SIP function, but the latest version of CSipSimple is outstanding, and better than both. Change to expert mode, and play around with the echo settings in the 'Media' section.
There are tons of options, and you may be able to fix your issues there. Also, try a new codec. Speex works well if you're calling over 4g/3g or you have high latency. What "low latency patch" are you using?
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I have the latest Google Play version of CSipSimple, but still experiencing echo issues. Are there any settings you use specifically that I can check against?
Yeh, Speex is the best choice atm for 4g/3g I feel too.
The patch is this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1777261
It takes the delay from 40ms to 18ms, but this was more critical in ICS, which had a delay of 118ms (?) I believe. I still applied it anyways.
Try turning on "voice audio detection" to on in media settings in CSipSimple to see if it helps.
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Try turning on "voice audio detection" to on in media settings in CSipSimple to see if it helps.
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No luck. Still overly sensitive when on speaker phone.
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Anyone have settings they use that I can compare against?
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
what settings are you specifically looking for?
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what settings are you specifically looking for?
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Mic levels, echo settings, audio routing settings. From what I can tell the problem might be either the Nexus has to sensitive a mic or the audio routing is wrong with the default settings in csipsimple.
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whitedragonz83 said:
Mic levels, echo settings, audio routing settings. From what I can tell the problem might be either the Nexus has to sensitive a mic or the audio routing is wrong with the default settings in csipsimple.
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Mic amplification : 1.0 (default)
Speaker amplification : 1.0 (default)
Echo Cancellation ON
Echo Mode is set to Speex
Media Quality is set to 4.. which is default.
Voice Audio Detection ON
Codecs : G729 and then GSM. Rest are disabled. I have set "Codec priority list per bandwidth" to off.. so it uses G729/GSM for all cases
I havent touched any settings in Audio Troubleshooting.. "Focus Audio" and "Restart stream when change routing" are on under those settings by default
krazykeyur said:
Mic amplification : 1.0 (default)
Speaker amplification : 1.0 (default)
Echo Cancellation ON
Echo Mode is set to Speex
Media Quality is set to 4.. which is default.
Voice Audio Detection ON
Codecs : G729 and then GSM. Rest are disabled. I have set "Codec priority list per bandwidth" to off.. so it uses G729/GSM for all cases
I havent touched any settings in Audio Troubleshooting.. "Focus Audio" and "Restart stream when change routing" are on under those settings by default
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Thanks, I will look at these settings tonight.
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I have a Nexus 4 and I'm having similar echo problems. The person talking to me hears themselves back with a 1/2 second delay. This goes away as I turn down the speaker volume from the earpiece. In Speakerphone mode its terrible and they can hear every word they say clear as a bell 1/2 second later. I'm going to start messing with the echo settings in expert mode. I have found that all SIP programs Vonage, sipdroid, csipsimple, and grooveIP all have this problem with the Nexus 4. Thankfully Csipsimple has more options for echo on the phone so I'll report back once I figure out what works best.
Update problem fixed on my Nexus 4. I was reading through the csipsimple bug mailing list on this issue, and one of the developers pointed to a possible way of fixing echo that completely fixed it for me.
go to csipsimple google code page in the FAQ go to audio routing troubleshooting.
Basically try the Use Mode API first (which worked for me) and go down the list till your echo is gone. To test your echo I would turn up the earpiece volume all the way and set the mic gain to about half during a call in the settings page. If the other person does not hear echo you should be good.
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I have a Nexus 4 and I'm having similar echo problems. The person talking to me hears themselves back with a 1/2 second delay. This goes away as I turn down the speaker volume from the earpiece. In Speakerphone mode its terrible and they can hear every word they say clear as a bell 1/2 second later. I'm going to start messing with the echo settings in expert mode. I have found that all SIP programs Vonage, sipdroid, csipsimple, and grooveIP all have this problem with the Nexus 4. Thankfully Csipsimple has more options for echo on the phone so I'll report back once I figure out what works best.
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did you manage to find what the problem was ?
derjuden said:
I have a Nexus 4 and I'm having similar echo problems. The person talking to me hears themselves back with a 1/2 second delay. This goes away as I turn down the speaker volume from the earpiece. In Speakerphone mode its terrible and they can hear every word they say clear as a bell 1/2 second later. I'm going to start messing with the echo settings in expert mode. I have found that all SIP programs Vonage, sipdroid, csipsimple, and grooveIP all have this problem with the Nexus 4. Thankfully Csipsimple has more options for echo on the phone so I'll report back once I figure out what works best.
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I'm having the same problem.... did you figure this out?
EDIT: Oops, sorry, saw you did. I'm currently using Sipdroid, I may have to switch over to CSipSimple.
I've tried both GrooveIP and Talkatone, and both apps result in very quiet incoming audio. I have no complaints from the person on the other end hearing me, but I can barely hear them. Going into the settings of each program and boosting the speaker gain helps a little, but hinders audio quality. Even using the gain boost in each program has little effect on the earpiece volume (using the earpiece on the phone).
Is there another setting in either app or on the phone itself I might be missing? I am on an Epic 4G Touch running PhantomPhreak's CM10 ROM.
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I found a solution. It seems odd, but I'm not complaining. It works. Using Talkatone, I went into the call settings and changed the "audio playback stream" from voice call to music. I noticed by changing this, it also deselected the hardware echo cancellation. It's odd changing this setting makes callers go from nearly inaudible because the sound is so quiet to being nearly like a normal non-wifi call. If I had to guess, the Epic 4g touch has no hardware echo cancellation or it isn't compatible with Talkatone if it does. In any case, I'm happy I can use wifi calling and finally hear the other person.
Hello team,
Sorry if the translation is bad, I use a translator: sneaky:
I have a problem with my 10 + rating (SM-N975F / DS). When I make a call with the speakerphone activated (hands free) my interlocutor hears me very badly if the phone is not sticking to my mouth. Looks like the noise reduction is not working well.
I've done tests with the voice recorder and are perfect, even at 2 meters from the phone. Unfortunately you can't turn off the noise reduction on this phone.
If you have an idea ...
Thank you
I have the same problem when I use a different language on my phone. What talk to text app are you using? Samsung's? Have you tried using a different one? Say Google?