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[Q] Memory and Ram Issue on InsertCoin CM7 HBOOT/STOCK 1.1.1

I recently installed InsertCoin's CM7 HBOOT/STOCK 1.1.1, after installing my internal memory has become really low and i only get 120mb of ram when i got 220mb on the official 2.2. I have partitioned my sd card using gparted. I made a normal fat32 and a EXT4. Do i need to make a EXT3 partition? also how would i know if the apps are on my sd card since i cannot move them manually with application manager. Please can you help me. Thanks
Phone info:
HTC Desire Sim Free
S-off using Revolutionary
Rooted with Unrevoked
Current Rom: Official HTC 2.2

Its normal to have low than froyo couse its gb android
And no u dont need ext3 just ext4
If u wanna know if ur apps goes to ur ext4 in ur sd card
Go to market search quick sysktem info pro
U will notice A2SD PARTITION label under basic info
It will tell u how much used and how much free
Dont get mad of free 120 mb i have 87 app installed
All workes fine
Hope iam usefull

do i have to move the apps to the sd card with the application manager because after installing less than 15 apps i get low memory notifications, i had like 40kb internal memory. Using the System Info app i can see that my ext4/a2sd is being used.

ruhelking1 said:
do i have to move the apps to the sd card with the application manager because after installing less than 15 apps i get low memory notifications, i had like 40kb internal memory. Using the System Info app i can see that my ext4/a2sd is being used.
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How big ist your ext 4 Partition?

i made a 2gb etx4 partition using gparted. I think the apps are going on to the ext4 partition from the memory reading on System Info but im still getting low memory notification

i read somewhere that i might need to move dalvik cache to sd. do i need to do this. i have not done anything other than what i have said in my original post. If needs be i can upload some screenshots of quick system info or anything u might need to see

Just to refresh
MY PHONE INFO:
HTC Desire Sim Free
S-off with Revolutionary
Rooted using Unrevoked
ClockworkMod Recovery
Currently on Instertcoin 1.1.2 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016940)
16gb Memory card = 12.9gb Fat32 and 2gb EXT4
Wiped Data and everything else before 1st install (Dalvik cache,cache)

ruhelking1 said:
i read somewhere that i might need to move dalvik cache to sd. do i need to do this. i have not done anything other than what i have said in my original post. If needs be i can upload some screenshots of quick system info or anything u might need to see
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Try the a2sd+ gui and try to move dalvik cache to SD.

grandem said:
Try the a2sd+ gui and try to move dalvik cache to SD.
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how would i move the dalvik cache. Also if i use the A2SD+ version of the rom, would i install it exactly the same as CM7 or would i have to do something different pre or post install?

SOLVED!!!!
i flashed the CM7r2 hboot from alpharev.nl by downloading the hboot, naming it PB99IMG.zip and using clockwork recovery to update the hboot. then i installed Insertcoins 1.1.2 rom.
WARNING!!!!
FLASHING A NEW HBOOT WILL MAKE YOUR OLD NANDROID BACKUP REDUNDANT, YOU CAN ONLY USE ROMS WITH CM7

[Q] Where is my ext4 drive?

Hello, Yesterday I rooted and flashed cyanogenmod on my Desire for the first time following this perfect noob proof guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084 to the letter and its working perfectly.
I partioned the SD, got 1 GB of Ext4, as the guide did and all that, and I have had this for a day now and after a few apps I am already down to 40 MB internal memory, whats going on? Did I do something wrong?
Regards

You need to move apps and dalvik-cache to EXT4-partition or flash CM7-Hboot via fastboot if you are S-OFF.
Swiftkeyed from ICS with Transparent XDA App

Thank you for your reply but I really have no idea what that means, im a complete newbie... I followed that guide so I am S-OFF. Where is that Hboot I need to flash? Flashing that now will that remove or clear my phone?
Also I checked my phone:
a2sd:
Capacity: 0.96 GB
Used: 67 MB
Free: 0.89 GB
Clearly its in use is it? Or maybe not... :/

Could someone tell me what to do please?

Look for S2E on the Android Market. That will move your apps to your EXT4 partition. Check the selected folders that you wanna moved to the EXT4 partition. Check Applications, Private Apps and Dalvik Cache (optional but recommended if you have a fast sd card). Reboot after configuring. It will take some time to reboot since it'll be transferring your existing app to the EXT4.
Don't mess with your hboot until you fully understand what you are doing. Check http://alpharev.nl to get an idea and read the sticky on the development section for more information.

THank you so much for your reply. One quick question: If I do as you wrote, Check Applications, Private Apps and Dalvik Cache, will the future apps I install be installed to the Ext4 drive or do I need to do this every time I install new apps etc?
Also I havent messed with my Hboot, I just followed that guide, and one step was to download that alpharev cd and turn S-Off, nothing else.
Thanks again!

As long as you have Cyanogenmod set to install apps to the Internal, you'll be fine and apps will be moved to EXT4 automatically.
Go to Settings>CM7 Settings>Application>Install Location>Internal
The thing to keep in mind here is while using S2E (or any scripts that do the same) is that the EXT4 partition acts as an extension of your internal memory. Although you aren't going to see your phone's internal memory increase in size.

Eneswar said:
Hello, Yesterday I rooted and flashed cyanogenmod on my Desire for the first time following this perfect noob proof guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084 to the letter and its working perfectly.
I partioned the SD, got 1 GB of Ext4, as the guide did and all that, and I have had this for a day now and after a few apps I am already down to 40 MB internal memory, whats going on? Did I do something wrong?
Regards
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To make full use of your 1GB ext4 you need a Rom with data2sd , data2ext , xd2sdx. Your using app2sd+ witch dont fully move all app data to sd ext4, say you download a 20mb app 15mb would go to ext4 and the other 5mb would still be on real internal.
Using a Rom with data2ext ect put the ext4 partition has your internal storage showing you 1GB and all app data will go there.

Worked perfectly, thank you so much, now I can get more then 5 apps installed!
I dont really care about the numbers, aslong its on the ext4 and I can install the apps
Thank you for your assistance.

I'm interested in trying this too. Right now I have oxygen with darktremors installed, but would switch back to cm7 if this would give me more space for apps. If I do a nandroid backup and restore, will the apps that had been moved to the sd card be restored properly?
Sent from my HTC Desire CDMA using XDA App

MIUI data full after 15 apps
shankly1985 said:
To make full use of your 1GB ext4 you need a Rom with data2sd , data2ext , xd2sdx. Your using app2sd+ witch dont fully move all app data to sd ext4, say you download a 20mb app 15mb would go to ext4 and the other 5mb would still be on real internal.
Using a Rom with data2ext ect put the ext4 partition has your internal storage showing you 1GB and all app data will go there.
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So the reason that my data storage is looking like this, could be because I'm running MIUI which uses A2SD not fully moving my apps?
Because I already moved everything I was able to move with s2e.
The link doesn't seem to work because I'm new: This is what it was showing:
Data: used 89 % (used 132 MB, free 15 MB)
ext: used 6 % (used 32 MB, free 440 MB)
cache used 2% ((used 1MB, free 38 MB)

Denobe, what app are you using to give you those stats? I'd like to check my system too.
Sent from my HTC Desire CDMA using XDA App

DamonZ28 said:
Denobe, what app are you using to give you those stats? I'd like to check my system too.
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The app is called FreeSpace.

I have the same problem with the Revolution 3.0
I have installed the data++ version but i am not sure ifi need to do something else with the hboot (i did the s-off but nothing else).
What could be wrong?
Thanks

[Q] Problem with Space Internal

Hi,
I have a HTC Desire with Cyanogenmod 7.1(Hboot 0.93.001) and my problem is the internale Space. I would partition with ROM Manager(5.006) but when I partition SD(256 Mb Ext4 and 0 Swap) reboot the system and I have a error
The log is:
"can't open /dev/tty0: No such file or directory
framebuffer: fd 3 (480 x 800)
ClockworkMod Recovery v2.5.0.7
I:Set boot command "boot-recovery"
Command: "/sbin/recovery"
Can you help me??
Tks

Try 4Ext recovery. It does best partitions, it does best all.

I presume that you repartitioned your sdcard after instalation of the rom.
If so there is 99% chance that you destroyd app data and/or user settings(I don't know which scripd did you use) and something else. EXT partition has to be made before flashing the rom and must not be tempered after(except if you backup EXT pt. data and restore it on the new partition).
Have to disapoint you - There is no help for that, so to fix a problem you either need to restore backup or reinstall(reflash) ROM.
Next time befor you do something like that be sure to RTFM or google for things that you want to make or change.
Many of the custom ROMs that are available use scripts and SDcard partitions as a workaround for the lack of internal space that Desire has. Almost all of the ROM have instructions(especially on this forum) how to install/flash rom. I strongly recomend that you read it and try to understand it If you ever encounter problems feel free to PM.

I have sandvolds ICS. 4 GB internal memory. 4 GB ext4 Partition, a2sd xdata. I think its stable enaugh

Heile1975 said:
I have sandvolds ICS. 4 GB internal memory. 4 GB ext4 Partition, a2sd xdata. I think its stable enaugh
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waaaayyyyy too much, you're wasting SD-Card spsce, you'll never use it unless you install the entire Play Store.
Also, using simple apps/data 2sd (leaving dalvic on nand) makes it a lot more stable IMO, not to mention better speed.

32gb class10 i think its have no memory Problems. And i think its fast and stable

if you're using CM7, you should use S2E. It's very easy to use.
Freespace should give you an idea on how much space you have left.
I have 1.5GB of sd-ext space. Used about 370MB
Internal storage is 102.8/147.6

Link2SD is my choice. I only use for games and very large apps.

cosimodc said:
Hi,
I have a HTC Desire with Cyanogenmod 7.1(Hboot 0.93.001) and my problem is the internale Space. I would partition with ROM Manager(5.006) but when I partition SD(256 Mb Ext4 and 0 Swap) reboot the system and I have a error
The log is:
"can't open /dev/tty0: No such file or directory
framebuffer: fd 3 (480 x 800)
ClockworkMod Recovery v2.5.0.7
I:Set boot command "boot-recovery"
Command: "/sbin/recovery"
Can you help me??
Tks
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Don't use ROM Manager - remove it, stay away from it, you don't need it. Would still recommend Gparted to partition sd card, although 4Ext recovery does seem to work but you'll need to be S-off to flash it.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk 2

beachcomber said:
Don't use ROM Manager - remove it, stay away from it, you don't need it. Would still recommend Gparted to partition sd card, although 4Ext recovery does seem to work but you'll need to be S-off to flash it.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk 2
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100% agree, ive used both 4EXT and Gparted in past both ideal IMO. Class 4 16GB SD with 1GB ext4, works flawlessly with all roms i have tried.

also it's sometimes useful to have an ultra large sdext. Example would be using botbrew or compiling things onboard. My sdext is at 1.2gb used now

beachcomber said:
Don't use ROM Manager - remove it, stay away from it, you don't need it. Would still recommend Gparted to partition sd card, although 4Ext recovery does seem to work but you'll need to be S-off to flash it.
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How do i get 4Ext recovery? In play store?

Hello all,
I am under 10 posts so I can not write in Desire Android Development.
I have "MildWild v-3.9" and I am very happy with this ROM. But I have problems of low free space. However, I created a Ext4 partition of 1 Go with 4Ext Recovery. I have HBOOT CM7 r2.
In settings, I see I have 8.6 MB free space for internal storage, 480Mo of space available for the SD card and it says "not available" for SD-Ext.
What's the problem?
All this on my SD card 4GB. I also have a 16GB SD card and I have another question. If I made partitions like the other and I copy the entire contents of the SD card of 4GB on the 16GB, I would have no problem?
Thank you in advance and sorry for my bad English.

omassilia said:
Hello all,
I am under 10 posts so I can not write in Desire Android Development.
I have "MildWild v-3.9" and I am very happy with this ROM. But I have problems of low free space. However, I created a Ext4 partition of 1 Go with 4Ext Recovery. I have HBOOT CM7 r2.
In settings, I see I have 8.6 MB free space for internal storage, 480Mo of space available for the SD card and it says "not available" for SD-Ext.
What's the problem?
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you may not be able to post in the thread yet, but you are allowed to read the last few pages
you have to enable the sd-ext and reboot. then you can use your partition and move apps to it.
omassilia said:
All this on my SD card 4GB. I also have a 16GB SD card and I have another question. If I made partitions like the other and I copy the entire contents of the SD card of 4GB on the 16GB, I would have no problem?
Thank you in advance and sorry for my bad English.
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- nandroid backup with your 4GB card inserted
- partition your 16GB in the same way
- copy everything from your 4GB card to your 16GB card (this will also copy the nandroid backup)
- insert 16GB card into phone, boot into recovery.
- full wipe and nandroid restore.

fdinis said:
How do i get 4Ext recovery? In play store?
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4ext. net
but you need to be s-off to install 4ext recovery
how to s-off? revolutionary method.forgot the site so just Google it.
took some time before I got my phone to be s-off, I read somewhere in xda that the reason is the rom currently installed while you're trying to s-off it. so I installed a stock rom, s-off it in a min, then installed 4ext
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA

fdinis said:
How do i get 4Ext recovery? In play store?
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4ext.net for free. Play Store if you want to donate.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk

Low memory on CM7

Hi,
I've installed the last stable CM7. The weird thing is that with it I only get 148mb of total internal memory. I was using Miui before in which I had more then 400mb of total internal memory.
Does anyone knows what's causing this and a solution to have all the memory available.
Thank you

mama_mia said:
Hi,
I've installed the last stable CM7. The weird thing is that with it I only get 148mb of total internal memory. I was using Miui before in which I had more then 400mb of total internal memory.
Does anyone knows what's causing this and a solution to have all the memory available.
Thank you
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1. What hboot are you using
2. MIUI had "400mb" internal storage, probably because you're using an sd-ext partition on your sd-card and you flashed the D2EXT version of MIUI

bortak said:
1. What hboot are you using
2. MIUI had "400mb" internal storage, probably because you're using an sd-ext partition on your sd-card and you flashed the D2EXT version of MIUI
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I have installed the revolutionary 0.93.0001 (i think) don't have the phone with me right now.
I thought that but the phone supposedly has 512mb internal storage, and 148mb seems very little memory.

Do a little reading and it will be clear why you are having this less memory where your NAND is capable of 512MB. It seems you are using stock hboot. Do you have any idea of partitioning SD card and ext partition? if yes then download s2e and activate the ext feature.

twisted_forever said:
Do a little reading and it will be clear why you are having this less memory where your NAND is capable of 512MB. It seems you are using stock hboot. Do you have any idea of partitioning SD card and ext partition? if yes then download s2e and activate the ext feature.
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I have a ext partition on sd-card to install apps, but the problem here is the internal memory. Not all the apps can be installed on sd-card and 100mb of free space is not enough for me to install all the apps that need to be on internal memory, like widgets and so on.

mama_mia said:
I have a ext partition on sd-card to install apps, but the problem here is the internal memory. Not all the apps can be installed on sd-card and 100mb of free space is not enough for me to install all the apps that need to be on internal memory, like widgets and so on.
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Install S2E (make sure you have ext3 partition)
In the app, move "applications", "dalvik-cache" to sd-ext.
Should be enough, leave Application Data on internal memory homever, as it might have impact on performance.
Move it only if you're running out of space again.
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda premium

The answer you quoted already provided you with the answer you need to get things working. CyanogenMod does not support Data2EXT out of the box. Download S2E app on the Play Store. Launch the app, check all the boxes and reboot. You should have EXT3 partition for this to work otherwise all the options on this app will b e grayed out.
CM7 doesn't see EXT4 for some reason without doing a little modification.

Ok, thank you all for your answers.
What I get from this is that miui has all of those thing you're talking builted-in. Or is cyanogen that doesn't see all the internal memory of the phone?
As I explained in the OP on cyanogen it only shows 148mb of internal memory and on miui it shows almost 500mb.

mama_mia said:
Ok, thank you all for your answers.
What I get from this is that miui has all of those thing you're talking builted-in. Or is cyanogen that doesn't see all the internal memory of the phone?
As I explained in the OP on cyanogen it only shows 148mb of internal memory and on miui it shows almost 500mb.
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yes exactly, miui has this built in.
cyanogen won't 'see' the extra partition, but s2e will use it.
i recommend 'diskusage' app to browse your partitions.
also, don't think it has been mentioned here:
- nandroid backup
- s-off if you haven't already
- change hboot to cm7r2
- restore
lookup guides for this, will repartition your internal memory, so it goes up from 148 to 287MB, further reading on memory stuff here

Yeah, exactly what's just been mentioned. Go to alpharev.nl and download the cm7r2 hboot. Flash it and you will have 245mb free.

bortak said:
Yeah, exactly what's just been mentioned. Go to alpharev.nl and download the cm7r2 hboot. Flash it and you will have 245mb free.
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Thank you again.
I think I'll try Oxygen r2 which give me 332 data memory.
Are the diferences between CM7r2 and Oxygen r2 so big?

CM7 won't fit on Oxygen hboot.
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda premium

[Q] Gingerbread RUU gone?

I want to s-off and currenty have hboot 0.80 which means i need to flash a newer RUU, probably 3.14.405.1
the xda dev official htc desire ruu roms link (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695667) only goes up to 1.21.405.2 so thats no good
There are various links on the web pointing me to : http://www.htcdev.com/process/legal_download/152
but this no longer works, i had a look at the source code and the rar file is in there but the link is invalid.
i tried installing htc sync but my desire isnt recognized, even after switching off usb debugging in the phones options.
my phone is currently rooted and running a GB Cyanogenomd rom but i only get a couple of apps installed and then it runs out of memory and Mounts2SD needs S-Off
Anyoe have a link to the 3.14.405.1 RUU?

I reuploaded it here.

Chromium said:
I reuploaded it here.
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thank you, i'll give that a whirl

dougsdir said:
my phone is currently rooted and running a GB Cyanogenomd rom but i only get a couple of apps installed and then it runs out of memory and Mounts2SD needs S-Off
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Just to clarify, mount2sd does not technically need s-off.
To use any form of A2SD properly, you only need a correctly partitioned sd card, and a ROM which can run init.d scripts to move combinations of apps / dalvik and data to the sd-ext partition. So firstly make sure your sd is partitioned using gparted, or use 4EXT recovery once you are s-off. Do not use minitool or clockworkmod to partition. Then in most cases after use activate A2SD, you keep you apps on internal (don't 'move to SD') to trick them to the sd-ext.
The main reason for gaining s-off is so you can change hboot, which is how your actual nand intnernal memory is laid out. Have a look at the partition tables at alpharev.nl
- Currently you are on stock hboot, which has 250MB /system size, and only ~150MB /data (internal memory). The same as before you s-off or root.
- CM7 has a /system size of ~140MB, so you are wasting 110MB
- If you are s-off, you can switch to cm7r2 hboot using fastboot, which has a 145MB /system, wastes only 5MB
- As a result, your /data goes up from 150MB to 287MB
- It's generally a good idea to keep you app data (e.g. saved game data) on your /data partition (internal memory) for speed and stability. 287MB allows for more :good:
- This combined with properly working A2SD as above, you'll have a lot more space for apps

thanks for your help!
i managed to get the Official RUU and then s-off and root and tried a kitkat rom but it kept rebooting within 2 minutes of use .
To be fair it used to randomly reboot every so often when on Stock Rom years ago, i think i read it was a hardware fault but for some reason with CM7 its stable and never reboots.
So I'm back to CM7 and using that HBoot you recommended.
Im happy with the extra space now so dont think i need to bother partitioning the SD Card and using the build in transfer apps to sd i now have 100MB free and that's with a few apps installed. I really only use the phone as a replacement for an ipod touch and before all this i could only get about 4 or 5 apps loaded and was getting the out of memory alert.
Thanks again!