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http://www.droid-life.com/2012/02/0...ons-lte-galaxy-nexus-to-be-a-developer-phone/
Update: It looks like all CDMA devices are no longer supported, this includes the Nexus S 4G on sprint.
Update 2: There's no evidence that this will negatively impact end users and OTA's. Things are still unfolding...
Update 3: Google WILL continue to support the Verizon Galaxy Nexus via OTA's. You can put the pitch forks away if you're not a dev and just want OTA's.
lrs421 said:
This cannot be true. I did not buy this phone to get updates and support from Verizon. I'm hoping it's a Friday glitch or early April Fools joke. I am soooo annoyed.
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/02/0...ons-lte-galaxy-nexus-to-be-a-developer-phone/
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Lol @ the early April fools joke its February 3rd smh. But that is interesting, will it be the same for sprint version? Since it says no cdma will be aipported
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This would not surprise me. Remember this is still Verizon (Major Carrier). They still want control of the devices on their networks. Kudos to them for giving users the choice of the Galaxy Nexus even though its not considered their flagship. Google not providing the device support in the future will be very bad but this shows that updates will have to come from Verizon.
I am soooo pissed I can barely type. I hope this is a mistake.
edit: no longer that pissed
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Mods, there are 2 threads about this a minute apart, can we have them merged? Thanks.
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Someone might as well get the petition going now. The war has already broken out in the Droid Life comments. For User's Unlocked/Rooted/ROM'ed this isn't as big a blow but the reason most of us purchased the device was because it was a developer phone. Verizon's refusal to allow Google Wallet and support the openess of a developer phone could easily have caused this. My speculation is that Verizon doesn't want to roll out updates as fast as Google wants too and there is some kind of conflict there. Considering there is a leaked 4.0.4 and we haven't seen 4.0.3 released officially is good evidence of this. Just my opinion.
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Someone might as well get the petition going now. The war has already broken out in the Droid Life comments. For User's Unlocked/Rooted/ROM'ed this isn't as big a blow but the reason most of us purchased the device was because it was a developer phone. Verizon's refusal to allow Google Wallet and support the openess of a developer phone could easily have caused this. My speculation is that Verizon doesn't want to roll out updates as fast as Google wants too and there is some kind of conflict there. Considering there is a leaked 4.0.4 and we haven't seen 4.0.3 released officially is good evidence of this. Just my opinion.
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LOL like Verizon or Google will listen to some pissed off people who signed a petition. Google has its principles and has obviously decided that the LTE version isn't suitable as a reference device given Verizon's mucking it up.
martonikaj said:
LOL like Verizon or Google will listen to some pissed off people who signed a petition. Google has its principles and has obviously decided that the LTE version isn't suitable as a reference device given Verizon's mucking it up.
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I'm pretty cynical when it comes to this sort of stuff as well but someone should feel some push back as a result of this. I purchased this phone for Google support, I wanted to get a way from Verizon.
Seriously, merge these threads into one. That page has nothing to do with updates.
The page stating CDMA devices aren't supported is for building AOSP builds for target devices. It has nothing to do with OTA updates.
You'll notice another Nexus CDMA device missing, the Nexus S 4G. Guess where it gets its updates from and always has (it's not Sprint)?
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2012/02/w...ce-cream-sandwich-updates-direct-from-google/
Not the only in America this is happening with Australian galaxy nexus phones. Looks like the nexus Google phone days are over. Even more reason to get my gs3 when it comes out.
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lrs421 said:
I'm pretty cynical when it comes to this sort of stuff as well but someone should feel some push back as a result of this. I purchased this phone for Google support, I wanted to get a way from Verizon.
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I know what you're saying, but at the end of the day you bought a locked CDMA phone on Verizon. You will never get away from Verizon unless you switch carriers and buy a different phone : / The nexus is a little farther away from Verizon compared to a "Droid" but you're crazy if you thought you were going to be as free as a bird when you bought a Nexus on big red.
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http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2012/02/w...ce-cream-sandwich-updates-direct-from-google/
Not the only in America this is happening with Australian galaxy nexus phones. Looks like the nexus Google phone days are over. Even more reason to get my gs3 when it comes out.
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Wow. So it's not just Verizon?
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NIK516 said:
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2012/02/w...ce-cream-sandwich-updates-direct-from-google/
Not the only in America this is happening with Australian galaxy nexus phones. Looks like the nexus Google phone days are over. Even more reason to get my gs3 when it comes out.
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This happened with the Nexus One on Vodafone as well. It wasn't the "end" then and it won't be the "end" now.
It's a little early to tell, but if this turns out to be true I'm going to the Verizon store and going to raise hell. I will cancel my contract over this.
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I know what you're saying, but at the end of the day you bought a locked CDMA phone on Verizon. You will never get away from Verizon...
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I know, I know. I'm too annoyed for common sense right now
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Truculent said:
It's a little early to tell, but if this turns out to be true I'm going to the Verizon store and going to raise hell. I will cancel my contract over this.
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Lol good luck with that. Pay and ETF and they'll be happy to let you leave. And they'll watch another 5 people walk in the store right after you and buy a Rezound/RAZR/Droid 4/FoTM device.
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I know, I know. I'm too annoyed for common sense right now
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Happens to the best of us. Just bringing perspective here. I always thought it was funny that all of these Verizon people thought they were "sticking it to the carrier" by buying a Verizon Galaxy Nexus...
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http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2012/02/w...ce-cream-sandwich-updates-direct-from-google/
Not the only in America this is happening with Australian galaxy nexus phones. Looks like the nexus Google phone days are over. Even more reason to get my gs3 when it comes out.
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Filled with quite a bit of miss information tbh.
They state the latest version of pics is 4.0.3. Its not that's only source code. And complain that peoples new phones are still on 4.0.1. That's correct but so are most retail versions.
I'd be pissed if I had a version version. But I'm not surprised as most carriers seen to want control. But the winging from .au is a bit petty. Its only mi cute builds, not like they are major builds behind.
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Verizon's refusal to allow Google Wallet and support the openess of a developer phone could easily have caused this. My speculation is that Verizon doesn't want to roll out updates as fast as Google wants too and there is some kind of conflict there.
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These are my thoughts exactly. Google has repeatedly shown that they are very innovative and forward thinking. Updates are moving too fast and Big Red does not want to move that fast if at all.
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Lol good luck with that. Pay and ETF and they'll be happy to let you leave.
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I've been considering paying the ETF and leaving for awhile now. The only thing holding me to stay has been my unlimited data I was grandfathered into, but I'm sure that won't last much longer with the way things have been going (throttling etc.). I'll probably buy a GSM nexus and go month to month on another carrier. It's kind of the final straw.
Why is this such a big issue ? The ability to apply the stock yoku OS is available. Once that's done the phone will receive Google updates,especially for unlocked GNex
So no matter what modem i run. My service sucks 1 to no bars
.and data so slow almost unuseable. Yet my wife has lte at home i barley have 3g. So o finally called vzw did everything the tech guy said. Lol even though i have already many times. So they are sending me a new vzw nexus for free. But he did say samsung gave them a bulletin. Stating a update was coming with in the next 10 dsys to address poor data signal . And voice quality. And others not being able to her you on the phone. So i wounder what build this wil be. He also said it was a direct update. Not through vzw . So if anyone was woundering no the vzw nexus will not have to wait on updates. We are still getting dorect updates.
Umm, I would believe a politician before any vzw csr....
good day.
that phone rep clearly gets his facts straight from the mayans.
the world will end in 2012.
You know better than to believe a csr Just because they sell mobile devices doesn't mean they are any closer to the vendor and it's development timeline than a monkey flinging its own poop at the zoo.
XDA would have posts from reputable persons about releases sooner than a near minimum wage with commission person would (not knocking csr's, just stating that kind of information is above their pay grade).
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Guys, no need to bash the OP for reposting what he heard. The entire Android community is based on rumors and I haven't seen one thank you from anyone!
Thanks OP. I hope what you heard is true.
TEK112 said:
Guys, no need to bash the OP for reposting what he heard. The entire Android community is based on rumors and I haven't seen one thank you from anyone!
Thanks OP. I hope what you heard is true.
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Ok, you're right. Thanks OP for posting in the wrong section!
I heard the exact same thing last week, that mid march is the expected release date to address the piss poor audio quality & signal issues (I get 3-4 bars lte at home for about 3 seconds then switches quickly to 3g).
Coincidentally I spoke to a Tier 3 tech last night and he relayed the same information to me. He said mid to end of March. This update can't come soon enough.
This isnt Development related. Moderator please move this to General!
I believe it.
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At least this is better than telling you that you're holding it wrong.
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This also coresponds with information about french carier getting 4.0.5 update in march.
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If they're saying March, we should get the OTA no later than 01/2013!!
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joshw0000 said:
If they're saying March, we should get the OTA no later than 01/2013!!
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You're new to the Nexus line, aren't you? Because you've got the situation backwards. Nexus will generally be 4-6 months ahead on OS updates. Occasionally, you'll get a small version bump completely unannounced, like the last 2.3.5>2.3.6 update on the Nexus One.
ATnTdude said:
You're new to the Nexus line, aren't you? Because you've got the situation backwards. Nexus will generally be 4-6 months ahead on OS updates. Occasionally, you'll get a small version bump completely unannounced, like the last 2.3.5>2.3.6 update on the Nexus One.
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No I understand that Nexus's are Google's flagship and I purchased this phone because it was unlocked and so it wouldn't be outdated (in terms of official OTA's). The fact that Verizon reps have this information makes me believe its a rumor and not a fact.
I'm sure their are intelligent reps out there (and in the forums) but I've never spoke with a tech who could troubleshoot past pulling the battery and doing a factory reset. For them to be supplying OTA info that isn't already in the forums makes is less credible to me.
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Sorry folks accidentally posted this thread in dv section. Made it on my cell. My appologies. And thank you jay for moving
joshw0000 said:
No I understand that Nexus's are Google's flagship and I purchased this phone because it was unlocked and so it wouldn't be outdated (in terms of official OTA's). The fact that Verizon reps have this information makes me believe its a rumor and not a fact.
I'm sure their are intelligent reps out there (and in the forums) but I've never spoke with a tech who could troubleshoot past pulling the battery and doing a factory reset. For them to be supplying OTA info that isn't already in the forums makes is less credible to me.
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You clearly haven't spoken with a real technician.
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Rem3Dy said:
You clearly haven't spoken with a real technician.
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Agreed. Level two support has access to internal and external forums. I really was impressed with the level of service I received when I called in. They know a lot more than most will give them credit for.
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You clearly haven't spoken with a real technician.
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With respect, I think that is the exact point he was making
I called in because my G'Nex was acting weird during calls. After a few minutes it would begin "clicking" in and out where the caller and myself couldn't hear each other. It literally did it about every 5 seconds and sounded as if you were hanging up a landline phone and picking it back up. On speaker phone it worked better but would often sporadically switch back to phone mic.
After reading several threads of people having their devices replaced because of this issue I called VZW. I spoke to several people over about a 2 hour period who eventually had me factory reset my device. At that point I told him to make a note that I called with the issue, that my issue was "better" at the moment, and that I would like a replacement if the issue returned. He was very nice and agreed but hardly knew anything about my phone and said there were no reports of similar issues.
So again, there are intelligent Verizon reps. I've yet to speak to one.
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I'm wondering if you guys would recommend the unlocked Galaxy Nexus (purchased directly from Google), considering it is a fairly old phone at this point. I have a Samsung Captivate (I897) that is REALLY slow and annoying. My current contract is up at the end of November. By that point, the next iPhone will be out, along with what I'm sure will be many new Android phones to choose from. Would you recommend I just put up with my Captivate until then, or put up the $349 and get the unlocked Nexus now? Thanks, in advance, for your input!
I see at least two new thread daily asking if the Galaxy Nexus is still worth purchasing considering it is "old". My answer is yes, and I believe the majority of people would agree. New iPhone or not, Galaxy Nexus is one hell of a phone to have. If you want you could wait for the next Nexus release, but if you are considering an iPhone over a Nexus - go Nexus.
I wouldn't say it's old at all. We're in a unique position in that phone releases have significantly slowed recently. As far as physical design is concerned, the only superior phone I can name would be the HTC One series, but that would still come down to personal preference.
But I go by external hardware, not internals. Thanks to JB, the Galaxy Nexus will be plenty fast enough for at least another year.
My captivate isn't slow or annoying!
I'd say mess around with the ROMs available for the captivate. We just got jelly bean yesterday in the development thread. We have some great devs who work very hard.
I've tried out the newer phones in the stores, and I'm still very happy with the captivate.
To answer the original question though, that phone would be a great buy.
Galaxy Nexus is still the best phone you can buy.
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Galaxy Nexus is still the best phone you can buy.
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Agreed I regret trading my first one.. I was going to go s3 but galaxy nexus is sexy with on screen buttons. I would imagine the coming up nexus will be amazing hopefully they go with a better camera that's my only complaint even tho you can still take some bad a$$ pics
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honestly, you won't find a better value-for-money anywhere in the android world, particularly with all the new googly candy flavors coming out first in vanilla style and ready to flash. as much as I hated my LG Optimus speed, this one's a keeper for sure.
My phone is rebooting with the Jelly Bean OTA as I type this so yes, it is worth it. Aside from a lackluster camera it's still a great phone that has enough power to handle anything you throw at it. I don't see any reason to upgrade to something new at this point. It's not like the performance improvements with the new generation of phones really adds that much IMO. The S3 has some really cool features like windowed videos and whatnot but when it comes down to it's not enough to warrant slow updates and the added costs.
What are the prospects for Nexus to be continually upgraded? How many years can I expect it to be supported. My Cappy would still be on 2.3.x if I was waiting for AT&T and Samsung to get their act together and release 4.x. Or they might say that the Cappy can't handle 4.x. So, do I have to worry that Nexus won't be able to handle 5.x?
adamwsh said:
What are the prospects for Nexus to be continually upgraded? How many years can I expect it to be supported. My Cappy would still be on 2.3.x if I was waiting for AT&T and Samsung to get their act together and release 4.x. Or they might say that the Cappy can't handle 4.x. So, do I have to worry that Nexus won't be able to handle 5.x?
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Not unless it comes with major changes to the way it runs at the basic level, which is highly unlikely. The Galaxy Nexus will certainly be supported in the next major release, and maybe the one after it. So many developers have the phone, I'm confident that if Google drops support we'll still be getting updates for a long time. You'll want new hardware before it gets dropped completely.
Yes, I think it is. I have Verizon's model, and am debating on getting the GSM version to use on my AT&T account...it all depends on when Verizon plans on launching Jelly Bean.
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What are the prospects for Nexus to be continually upgraded? How many years can I expect it to be supported. My Cappy would still be on 2.3.x if I was waiting for AT&T and Samsung to get their act together and release 4.x. Or they might say that the Cappy can't handle 4.x. So, do I have to worry that Nexus won't be able to handle 5.x?
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The Nexus S is still being updated, so the Galaxy Nexus still has quite a bit left. I'd say at least two versions of Android.
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Yes, I think it is. I have Verizon's model, and am debating on getting the GSM version to use on my AT&T account...it all depends on when Verizon plans on launching Jelly Bean.
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GSM is where it's at. You can't go wrong with a nexus. :highfive:
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Yes, I think it is. I have Verizon's model, and am debating on getting the GSM version to use on my AT&T account...it all depends on when Verizon plans on launching Jelly Bean.
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Doesn't waiting for Verizon to push an update sort of defeat the whole "It's a google phone" thing? I thought one of the biggest advantages of having a Nexus was that they get the updates before anyone else, straight from Google with no bloatware or other tinkering.
I ordered the Nexus from Google!
When I bought my Captivate, it was from AT&T with a 2 year contract. That contract does not end until 11/30/2012.
The contract is connected to my SERVICE, not the phone, right? So, can I simply pull the SIM out of my Captivate and put in in the Nexus and everything will be fine?
And I can I also sell my Captivate before my current contract is up, right?
Thanks for your input!
adamwsh said:
I ordered the Nexus from Google!
When I bought my Captivate, it was from AT&T with a 2 year contract. That contract does not end until 11/30/2012.
The contract is connected to my SERVICE, not the phone, right? So, can I simply pull the SIM out of my Captivate and put in in the Nexus and everything will be fine?
And I can I also sell my Captivate before my current contract is up, right?
Thanks for your input!
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Right. You'll be just fine switching the SIM card into the Nexus. And yeah, you can sell the Captivate at this point. Really, you could sell an upgrade the moment you walk out of the store (unless you upgrade with Amazon, since their additional discounts have some baggage).
The current price on Google Play for an unlocked Galaxy Nexus is amazing, and it's definitely not "old" by any standards. The SIII might have a slight edge over it, but I would consider "pure Google" an added advantage of the GNexus.
With all of these phones like this and the Note 2 coming soon I'm curious about the new Nexus phone to be revealed at the end of this month.
http://www.androidcentral.com/att-announces-htc-one-x-nvidia-quad-core-meets-lte
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Also kind of on this topic I feel that at&t gets the best phones out of all the U.S. carriers.
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GiantJay said:
With all of these phones like this and the Note 2 coming soon I'm curious about the new Nexus phone to be revealed at the end of this month.
http://www.androidcentral.com/att-announces-htc-one-x-nvidia-quad-core-meets-lte
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I wonder how good a phone google wants to build. It has to be tough trying to balance "We need to not step on the toes of those that use our OS" with "We need better hardware, but we need someone else to build it." We have seen the rumors before about Samsung wanting to split off and use its own OS, if google comes up with a nexus phone that's too good this only fuels that fire. I swear they do a nexus phone just for something to do.
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I wonder how good a phone google wants to build. It has to be tough trying to balance "We need to not step on the toes of those that use our OS" with "We need better hardware, but we need someone else to build it." We have seen the rumors before about Samsung wanting to split off and use its own OS, if google comes up with a nexus phone that's too good this only fuels that fire. I swear they do a nexus phone just for something to do.
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I agree with you. I feel that google releases a "nexus" or "google" phone every year just to say that they have there own phone. Honestly is sammy tried there own OS, i have a a feeling it would successful as long as updates don't take as long as they usually do with android updates...
Yeah it does look nice. I might switch back to ATT just because of the One X+. But hopefully it lands on Sprint as well
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Just never liked the fact that ATT locked the boot loader of the original One X
This phone is supposed to be exclusive to at&t. There has been some very interesting and exciting rumors about the future of Nexus devices today that have me pretty excited. Google will be putting out rules and specs for any phone developer to make a Nexus certified device that's controlled by Google. The phones will also have a customization option for things like touch wiz or sense if you prefer the look and feel compared to pure Google. This sounds pretty darn awesome. The first or next Nexus device is supposed to be the LG Optimus G. Or read here for the full breakdown.
www.androidpolice.com/2012/10/03/ru...ong-with-a-nexus-phone-certification-program/
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So, I'm stuck in my contract with an iPhone 4 on Verizon. This phone is slower than tar. I can't take it anymore. I used to be an android user back when the original droid came out. I loved that phone. I think it's time to switch back as iPhone 5's cost way too much and I miss android a little bit.
I think the 2 phones I would consider are the Nexus and the S3. Now, I've noticed the S3 has a little better specs but is Samsung still really bad with updates? I had the original Galaxy S and it was stuck on 2.1? the whole time. I couldn't stand that phone for that reason. Is the Nexus vanilla android so it has the newest android software as soon as Google releases it? Which phone would be a better choice to root? I really like to mess around with the phone and customize as much as possible.
Sorry for all the questions and if this is the wrong thread. It has been a long time since I was last here. I'd just appreciate some input from everyone so I can purchase a new phone.
Nexus.
Simple to root and customize.
Updates straight from google when they are released. Unless you buy a Verizon branded Nexus, then Verizon will take a couple months to release the update.
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Nexus.
Simple to root and customize.
Updates straight from google when they are released. Unless you buy a Verizon branded Nexus, then Verizon will take a couple months to release the update.
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Has Verizon been pretty good about updates so far? The Verizon Nexus is the only option as of now.
Is battery life acceptable with this phone? Easily get a full days use out of it?
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Has Verizon been pretty good about updates so far? The Verizon Nexus is the only option as of now.
Is battery life acceptable with this phone? Easily get a full days use out of it?
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I vouch for the s3 great battery life and quite decent camera .. works as it should.. no issues whatsoever only thing is when i turn data on and browse the web i can notice it getting some heat but thats for the tmo idk about verizon..
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If you get the VZW Nexus, be ready to flash some custom ROMs as Verizon drags their feet with updates.
If you live in an area with good t-mobile service, which is most large cities, leave version and get a Nexus 4
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