Hey all, I'm looking for some advice regarding the battery on my Verizon Nexus and I wanted to see if anyone else was having troubles too. It seems as though my battery is discharging very very quickly to the point of where I'll pull it off the charger at 100% and within 10 minutes I'm down to 90% with little to no usage. Again, this is the stock battery on the Verizon Nexus. Thanks all!
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take a look into this discussion http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1387243
Stock ROM/Kernel? Try changing, see if the drainage issue changes. Even reflashing an updated stock image may help.
It looks like the problem is the screen using up the battery. Its using 66% of the battery right now and I'm down to 88% battery after about 25 minutes with brightness on 10%.
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That's standard behavior for most phones. It damages the battery's long-term life to keep it charged to 100% for extended periods of time. It actually trickles down to 90% while on the charger after reaching 100%, but doesn't actually tell you so, because people would get confused if their phone sat at 90% while on the charger.
Lots of laptops do the same thing. E.g. my thinkpad never charges to more than 94-96%. Standard behavior to maintain the battery. The computer is just up front about it, and the phones do it more sneakily.
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That's standard behavior for most phones. It damages the battery's long-term life to keep it charged to 100% for extended periods of time. It actually trickles down to 90% while on the charger after reaching 100%, but doesn't actually tell you so, because people would get confused if their phone sat at 90% while on the charger.
Lots of laptops do the same thing. E.g. my thinkpad never charges to more than 94-96%. Standard behavior to maintain the battery. The computer is just up front about it, and the phones do it more sneakily.
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Hmmm, that sort of makes sense but I've never seen this behavior on anything else including the many many Android phones I've used in the past...its annoying. I'm thinking about picking up the extended battery but I'm not sure.
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I had the same problem the first two days of owning the Nexus. I would go to work at 6am and the battery would be drained by 12. I did a few things that seemed to help.
1. Disabled 4G LTE
- My area is spotty when it comes to 4G, so the phone constantly searched for it.
2. Lowered Screen Resolution to 10%
3. Used a dark background.
- The screen will use less power if the background is dark (black is best)
Doing those three things made my phone last from 6am to 6:30pm, which is a noticeable improvement. This was done using the stock battery. I did order an Extended battery, but I have not received it yet.
Lol this happens with basically all mobile devices.
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Lol this happens with basically all mobile devices.
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not with my friend's 4s.
My battery also drains very fast. I'm at 48% with screen using 33% and android os using 31%. My screen on time is only 58 minutes but android os has kept the device awake for over 2.5 hours
I have a Galaxy Nexus, I had a Droid Incredible 2 before that, and a Droid Incredible 1 before that, and *all* of them have exhibited this behavior.
My nexus was in and out of 4g tonight and I'm at 35% with 9 hours on battery. Used a lot of Google music in the car. FWIW I'm using set CPU . That's probably helping a bit.
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Related
-Wifi and Bluetooth on whole time
- Tons of texting, a lot
- Over 1 hour of phone calls on Bluetooth
- Over 3 hours of A2DP streaming
- Periods of no signal (subway)
- Screen on for 2 hours
- Google Reader and Web browsing
- Used the phone as I would normally without thinking about battery at all.
Very very happy. UPDATED with recent screenshots before I plugged it in.
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Out of interest, how many times have you charged your phone (0%-100%)?
Never drained it to zero and started using it right away without charging it. Its been charged to 100 twice already. My uptime is 73 hours and that's exactly how long I've had the phone.
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Wow! I wish mine was as good as that, seems to be getting better with each charge though, which is a positive.
Most I have got is 12,
Hopefully this will increase over time
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Most I have got is 12,
Hopefully this will increase over time
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me too OP: share your secret!
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Probably dim screen. Usually screen takes 60%-70% of the power.
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Most I have got is 12,
Hopefully this will increase over time
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Honest question, how many times are you more than 12 hours from sleeping or relaxing in your house?
12 hours is more than adequate for a normal user
This is mine after a fresh wipe and no apps installed. Just thought i`d see how it did with normal use.
Here's mine; at a point the phone got itself shut down for some reason, and I couldnt get it restarted at that moment, so I left it like that, and when I could turn it back on, it was quite warm around the camera unit, and also the battery was pretty much drained - thats what you can also see on the screenshot at the "20minutes" part of t he scale. After I've removed the battery and put it back, the phone was working for quite a while again, like 12 more hours.
I'm sure auto brightness helps as it keeps screen dim but during my use it was brighter especially outdoors. My whole point is there is no secret, you should use the phone as you would like it. One thing I could have done I'm sure to improve battery life is turn off wifi and bt when they weren't in use and possibly not have as many apps running but then what's the point in having the phone?: D
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I get around 11-13 hours. Not too impressed. My iPhone 4S gets 20 easily. I'm really conservative on my Nexus too because doing anything intensive (games, video recording, youtube etc) really rapes the battery. I'm guessing some of you turn off auto sync or something.
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I'm currently on 1 day 1 hour, with 50% left. Although with light usage.
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Honest question, how many times are you more than 12 hours from sleeping or relaxing in your house?
12 hours is more than adequate for a normal user
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true, just a pain in the ass to plug in.
would be nice if it lasted 18hrs so if I can wake up, stay out late, and then plug it in when I go to bed
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true, just a pain in the ass to plug in.
would be nice if it lasted 18hrs so if I can wake up, stay out late, and then plug it in when I go to bed
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I was able to do that last night but honestly not a big deal plugging it in.
It's simple really - the more you use the phone the worse battery life is but that's because you used the phone more! I never use the phone LESS just for battery life because then you're doing yourself and the phone injustice.
43% - 14h.. screen taking up 48%
from what I can see, apart from the screen, the biggest battery hog is wifi/3g
I installed Juice Defender and I am getting fantastic battery life now:
winwiz said:
from what I can see, apart from the screen, the biggest battery hog is wifi/3g
I installed Juice Defender and I am getting fantastic battery life now:
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So JuiceDefender works fine for you? I just read that alot of users had problems with ICS and JD. Would be great if it worked though!
Here's mine. Since I was at work all day I only got time to play Dillo Hills for about 20 mins but I've found the battery is REALLY good after flashing the Android Revolution ROM. MoDaCo causes too much drain IMHO.
Battery life isn't too bad on mine. I got mine on the 10th and I used it right out of the box. Battery life wasn't that great until I did a charge to 100%. The OTA update didn't change much for me in regards to battery. Currently at 21h uptime and I'm at 32%.
I just got my nexus today and was wondering if this was good battery life for the first days use and when it will start getting better?
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This is the screenshot.
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Just about. I usually get 7hrs.
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Thats a drastic drop! Id say about normal as well. Did you have a lot of apps that were re downloading from the time you first activated it. After a few days to a week when your done looking at your phone every 5 secs you'll start to see battery improvement haha.
Tonight will be my 3rd time charging it. WIll it get a lot better tomorrow?
ProTip: Put the phone down every once in a while and enjoy life.
That's normal if ur 4g on
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It can take 4-5 charge cycles for the battery to really get worked in.
Also, check out the juice defender plus app. Doubled my battery life.
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Lithium Ion cells do not get better in any way after a few charges.
In fact the capacity goes down a wee tiny little bit with each and every charge, so your first charge was the "best" one.
Stop playing around with the thing for 5 hours non stop and you will get decent runtime.
Best thing to do with a new device is to charge it up fully as soon as you can. Then run it down until you get the low battery warning. Then charge it back up.
Battery life will likely be pretty poor for the first week or so, then it will normalize.
Deep discharging (to 0%) is about the worst thing you can do to a LiIon battery, because it "hurts" it much more than several shallow discharges.
Also, like I said before, battery capacity won't in any way rise or "normalize" over the first week.
Battery life is poor the first days because you use your shiny new device all the time (i.e. more than later). It's like that for all of us.
My battery life sucked the first few days, It got better though. It really only seems to suck it down if it is hunting for a signal constantly.
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If you are using your phone a laptop replacement and are surfing the web constantly, expect it to die like a laptop.
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You also need to try this manual battery calibration:
http://myhtcdesire.com/tutorials/how-to-improve-your-battery-life-calibration-tutorial
After I did this, saw the battery reading 99% and 98% more often rather than straight to 96% after charged.
Originally, it was suggested by HTC tech support. I did that once every six months or so ... And my battery level is now improved. Screenshots will follow in the next post.
Not bad?
Sync is off btw. And this includes using Maps 2%.
At least with my usage pattern, I am more or less satisfied.
I wish Google fixes the high Android OS Keep awake time!
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You need to remember the only thing relating to battery life is not just the battery, it's software as well, hence calibration. After about a week or so your phone gets a "feel" for your battery and gets more battery stats, so it's more accurate with it's readings. That is a proven fact, you need to think about all things.
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It is quite easy to gauge a Lithium Ion battery. 4.20 V = full. 3.60 V = empty. Your phone can read the battery precise to 0.001 V. The curve isn't linear, but it's well known what voltage relates to the exact capacity left in the battery.
There's really no room to "feel" anything there, just simple math.
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ProTip: Put the phone down every once in a while and enjoy life.
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+1
I consistently get 15-18 hours of use out of mine with the extended battery.
But to the OP, if your screen is taking up 60% of your battery, it's always on, your battery is gonna die, it happens. Your battery doesn't get "better" with time. It seems that way because you aren't glued to the device 24/7.
Mine was god awful when I first got it but after a week or so it got much, much better.
I have the GSM version though.
60% screen time gawt damn! Did you talk to anyone that day?
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60% screen time gawt damn! Did you talk to anyone that day?
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Google need to run classes on how to read the battery consumption pages. 61% screen means that the screen used 61% of the total battery used, not that the screen was on 61% of the time.
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I have had the phone for 5 days and with fairly light usage, I am still not getting good battery life. I turn off all data and wifi when not using it and screen on time is below 2 hours.
Below is a screenshot of my battery life.
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It doesn't get better...get used to it until its fixed in an update , along with the other big issues.
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By about the 3rd day it seemed better. But it's also difficult to gauge because the first few days you're bound to toy with it constantly.
Until there is an empirical way to gauge usage, like an amp meter attached to the phone - it's all perception imo.
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In the top left you have three things running in the background, im assuming constantly. Uninstall them, especially the battery percentage since you can look that up easily on your phone
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GalaxynexusVZW said:
I have had the phone for 5 days and with fairly light usage, I am still not getting good battery life. I turn off all data and wifi when not using it and screen on time is below 2 hours.
Below is a screenshot of my battery life.
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Do yourself a favor and try aokp milestone 1 from rootzwiki , and also download lean kernel 1.1.1 on xda. Use interactiveX governor for kernel. This is the exact setup I am using now, and have been for a few days and have been getting insane battery life. Hope everything works for you.
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Last time I checked lithium ion batteries don't get better after a few days and yes there are software fixes for battery life and bugs..
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Reality. And a week. And getting a gsm version might help
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You really have no idea what you're talking about. First of all, it will get better, I won't bother explaining the science behind it considering you can do your own research, but it will, also, it can't be "fixed." Just like they can't make it an 8 mega pixel camera in an OTA. You can get it much better by doing custom roms and thigns of that nature.
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Oh stupid me and here I was hoping for a 15 mp camera
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It got better when I turned off vzw backup and google +.
Best I got is 16 hours bone stock just an extended battery. Worst I got was 4 hours(screen was on the whole time) watched 2 movies before I plugged in. I average around 12 hours from 100% to 20%.
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GalaxynexusVZW said:
I have had the phone for 5 days and with fairly light usage, I am still not getting good battery life. I turn off all data and wifi when not using it and screen on time is below 2 hours.
Below is a screenshot of my battery life.
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First off, it's hard to tell by your screenshot how good or bad your battery life is. You're burning approximately 10%/hr, but maybe you had your screen on or were surfing the internet for a portion of that time. Anything that involves data transfer will kill your battery faster.
I got my Galaxy Nexus on Wednesday, and I've had great battery from the start. I calibrated it by letting the phone's initial charge die down to zero, and then charged it all the way up to 100%, and then used the Battery Calibration tool. I drain between 2-3% hour with light use, but can obviously drain much more depending on what I'm using the phone for.
That being said, for those on this board who think an OS upgrade is going to fix the problem, I highly doubt it. I have a reasonably poor cell signal (averages around -95 dbm), but still get solid battery life. Given that we were all issued phones with the same software, if you're experiencing incredibly bad battery life, I'm going to point my finger at the hardware. It just doesn't make sense that some of us with 4.0.2 get great battery life, and others do not. You probably have either a bad battery or a bad phone. Now, I'll probably get called out for saying this, but watch all the posts that follow when the update releases, when people still have poor battery life.
This is my 3rd Android phone (Incredible, Charge, GN), and every one of these phones has had poor battery life. On average, if I'm playing around with the screen on, I'm draining upwards of 10%/hr, if not more. But if you properly calibrate the battery - which is VERY important - you should easily be able to get a full day's charge out of your phone.
There is a post on XDA about the 13 steps to proper battery calibration. Once I followed it on my last phone, my battery life went up at least 50%. You have to let the battery drain to 100%, then bump charge a number of times, then use the battery calibrator.
GalaxynexusVZW said:
I have had the phone for 5 days and with fairly light usage, I am still not getting good battery life. I turn off all data and wifi when not using it and screen on time is below 2 hours.
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Try running without JuiceDefender. Constantly toggling data on and off (or wifi on and off) actually hurts battery in almost all cases.
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Try running without JuiceDefender. Constantly toggling data on and off (or wifi on and off) actually hurts battery in almost all cases.
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Your results may vary, but when I used Juice Defender or Green Power on my Droid Charge, I nearly doubled the battery life. I haven't put it on my GN yet because my battery life is much better than what I had with the Charge.
No using JD or anything like that. Just the the phone do its thing. I don't even open the multitask button unless I want to switch between apps.
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Gotta be a software issue with the battery.
Just this past weekend in Wash DC. Very strong 4 G market.
I had it fully charged off charger. After 7 hours without touching the phone even with google plus sign out, the battery went from 100% to 54%. It's like the phone was active a lot without me even touching it. No SMS/mms either. No emails either.
Know. I did same thing and put it on airplane mode with it 100% charged. After 7 hours on airplane mode it was at 98%.
So it's gotta be an operating system issue.
I tried it on wifi instead of 4G mode. And battery drainage was down to 72% after no use overnight.
I have been showing this problem for a while now but only now thought to post about it as I don't know if it is even a problem.
Basically my phone will gain back percentages of battery throughout the day if I use it a lot. It almost seems like the battery is rebounding after being drained quickly. I have never seen this on any of my other android phones but it is happening with both the stock and Seidio extended battery. Is this a good thing, a bad thing, or is it just how the battery and android work together now?
I think it's just the way battery percentage is estimated and reported. It's happened to me a couple of times but, obviously, it is not possible for the phone to charge itself without being connected to power.
That's what I figured but wanted to check.
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Happens to me too.
Sometimes I'm at 25% and if I reboot I'm at 15%! It has something to do with calibration I think.
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It happens alot after you use the phone hard and then leave it idle after. The fuel gauge is based on voltage and after you use the phone hard and relax the voltage will bounce up some. This is whats happening. It only happens on certain phones that use max17040 or max17042 family of fuel gauges like galaxy s, nexus s and GN etc.
I've had the same on all my Android phones (HTC magic, galaxy S, galaxy nexus).
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Alright first of all, i want start off by saying that i LOVE this phone, both in terms of hardware and software, however, theres is a HUGE problem that i just can't get through and its the battery of this phone...
It is simply unbearable.
I have posted the screenshots. This screenshot is taken after 1 whole night of charging. In 5 hours or so time, I've use the music app for about 1 hour, talked on the phone for about 5-10min and sent about 10 text messages. I didn't do any web browsing/videos/gaming. I have also disabled LTE and turned my brightness to minimum with eco mode on. These small things drained my battery from 100% to less than 10% within 5 hours which i find to be completely unacceptable.
Last night, with me browsing the web on the bus for about an hour or so, it drained my battery from 85% to 3% by the time i got home...
I've looked at the battery life thread and it seems like im the only one experiencing this issue. Also not only does it drain SUPER fast, it takes a good 4 to 5 hours to recharge this thing. Which means it takes longer to charge than to use up even with minimal use...
Do I have a faulty phone and should I get it replaced???
Something's amiss. The only time that I've gotten less than 10 hours, is when I had my work email connection set up to "always connected" and wifi was turned on. Even then, I got 9+ hours of battery life.
Disabling lte is part of the problem. When the phone is in 3g, it uses fast dormancy which LG did not implement very well and it runs the CPU constantly. I encourage you to contact LG and your carrier and complain. don't let them tell you about background data or applications running the battery down. With the same apps running, this does not happen on lte. This can easily be verified by enabling debugging and then capturing a logcat from adb with lte both enabled and disabled. It will show fast dormancy trying to set network states every second. I spent a lot of time trying to get this issue recognized, but they kept saying that it had not been reported and was not a known issue. Let's make it a known issue so they will fix it.
How about actually showing us what you used instead of screen shots of %.... would be helpful...
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Have you considered that maybe you have a faulty unit.
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I'm also getting about 5ish hours on a charge. And, when I recharge at the office with the usb cord, it's a "trickle charge" that's so slow it's ridiculous.
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I'm also getting about 5ish hours on a charge. And, when I recharge at the office with the usb cord, it's a "trickle charge" that's so slow it's ridiculous.
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you definitely want to return this thing.
Don't know about you...but I let my phone die twice then fully charged it but my battery life is amazing
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Yeah, I've been quite impressed with my battery life on this thing. I made it from 6:30am spent about 2 hours tweaking it and setting it up, then messed around with it through the day. By supper time I plugged it in and it was at 63%.
I don't have the phone, but right off the bat i'd say it was whatever was causing your mediaserver to go nuts. Either some media app, YouTube, gallery etc, wouldn't say its a faulty unit, just mediaserver gone rogue
And damn i want this phone...
Looks like a widget or live wallpaper is going crazy
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Well, a little update to this thread, i've disabled every different kind of syncing possible and i've been able to pretty much double my battery life from before, which is a lot better but i still wouldn't consider this to be good battery life.
I've been reading many posts regarding battery life, and it seems like there is some issue within the software that prevents the phone from going into deep sleep which is causing the lack luster battery life. This issue is on both the optimus g and the nexus 4, so i hope the devs may look into this issue when they are building custom roms for these two devices!
waaw Optimus G
I just got my optimus yesterday and had a full charge this morning. Been using it for almost 12 hours pretty steady. Have 16% battery left. I would say my battery is pretty amazing.
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Get a replacement that's what I did with my first one. I was getting 6-7 hours with light use.
Got a replacements and was able to get 19_14 hours battery.
Also today I left my cell at home and it was unplugged at 100% after 9 hours I came home and saw it at 95%.
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You definitely seem to have some weird issue's. My Optimus is great for battery life. My previous phone was an Xperia Arc and this has significantly better battery life without even running it in "eco mode". The only time I have noticed less then stellar battery life was when I had some app's running in the back ground that would keep refreshing/updating which kill's the battery.
Androids usage readings are inaccurate. Please consult this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
From what the picture shows I would guess its your 4G connection. A Hardware fault is improbable. And forget these things like "eco mode". Even if they underclock your cpu it won't give you a real benefit,
I've had great battery life on mine. Even when I've been geeking out on the device for several hours during the day.
Perhaps you are on the cusp of LTE coverage? If so, then the radio can kill your battery while looking for a signal.
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I've had great battery life on mine. Even when I've been geeking out on the device for several hours during the day.
Perhaps you are on the cusp of LTE coverage? If so, then the radio can kill your battery while looking for a signal.
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I also have amazing battery life IMO, coming from a Galaxy S. I have no LTE in this area so am using only HSPA. Using the phone with casual use, I can easily go a full 24 hours on a charge. With very very heavy use I can go from 8 am till around 11 PM. I am very happy with the battery life overall. I'm running on "eco mode" FWIW.