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What's pushing me towards this phone:
Native Android, ICS
What's pushing me towards Verizon NOW:
LTE, double bandwidth deal, unlimited loophole
What's keeping me away:
Signal problems.
My CM7.1 Evo on Sprint has its own issues but I have a grip on those and am generally happy with the setup. I could wait for a few months for the issues on the GN LTE to get resolved. But the bandwidth promo and the loophole won't last forever. If the problem is in hardware like the previous Samsung GPS problems, it might never get resolved.
How I do lock in the Verizon goodies without getting stuck with a lemon phone? Get the Rezound and hope for ICS soon?
What to do??
just go for it, if you have good reception in the areas you visit most of the time
if you just want ICS even the old Nexus S i9020 have official ICS 4.0.3 which i'm already using
to me it sounds like you want more the data plan, than the phone LOL
Read some of the other threads -- particularly [url="http://www.anandtech.com/show/5254/investigating-the-galaxy-nexus-lte-signal-issue]this article[/url]. I personally have no issues with signal other than inside my work building (which is to be expected; it was the same with 3G).
I personally think it's all FUD, same as the iPhone 4 "antenna-gate".
I want both. It would suck to sign up for the phone later after it is working fine and then not have the bandwidth deals available. But then the phone might never be fixed. I also want newer hardware Nexus S is an idea though...
AllGamer said:
just go for it, if you have good reception in the areas you visit most of the time
if you just want ICS even the old Nexus S i9020 have official ICS 4.0.3 which i'm already using
to me it sounds like you want more the data plan, than the phone LOL
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I do happen to live in a relatively urban major city that should have good LTE coverage, so the switching might not be such a big issue.
copkay said:
Read some of the other threads -- particularly [url="http://www.anandtech.com/show/5254/investigating-the-galaxy-nexus-lte-signal-issue]this article[/url]. I personally have no issues with signal other than inside my work building (which is to be expected; it was the same with 3G).
I personally think it's all FUD, same as the iPhone 4 "antenna-gate".
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All I saw is unlimited loophole lol. Is there still a way to get unlimited data or are you referring to something else
I was with t-mobile for 8 years and decided to try verizon for 2 years after hearing how good the network is. I thought there's no better time then now considering I have 275 in bestbuy gift cards and this amazing phone is 300. After 2 days of use it seems the network is just OK don't know if there are still bugs to be worked out of LTE network or if its the rom I'm on. Before flashing the rom the signal struggled also? Didn't have a whole lot of time to test as I rooted and had a rom an hour after getting my phone (live for the development) Does anyone have a clue on what's up. Verizon says my area in Cleveland (mistake on the lake) has good coverage and friends have said nothing but good things also. Thanks community! Love ya guys and girls out there
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You might want to try flashing a different radio in your respective development forum, it's kind of hit or miss between regions so you'll have to see which works best for you
radio flash may not fix signal its been pretty common issue with vzw nexus users as i myself still experience it
I had a Razr for a month before the Nexus and my wife still has a Razr. Other than the well-publicized nationwide outages, voice and data are rock solid on that phone.
My stock Nexus has been anything but. I love voice and data several times a day. Hoping an update will improve things or that I got a bad unit. I have a replacement on the way as my headphone jack doesn't output stereo.
Certainly nothing scientific but in my experience the Verizon network is the best there is (I've been on T-mobile and Sprint, never ATT).
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I had a Razr for a month before the Nexus and my wife still has a Razr. Other than the well-publicized nationwide outages, voice and data are rock solid on that phone.
My stock Nexus has been anything but. I love voice and data several times a day. Hoping an update will improve things or that I got a bad unit. I have a replacement on the way as my headphone jack doesn't output stereo.
Certainly nothing scientific but in my experience the Verizon network is the best there is (I've been on T-mobile and Sprint, never ATT).
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yea voice has been excellent for me since release day however data is hit and miss in my area but if i go to another area of my city or anywhere else its rock solid really weird however i have a tbolt on another line that works rock solid everywhere data and voice
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I had a Razr for a month before the Nexus and my wife still has a Razr. Other than the well-publicized nationwide outages, voice and data are rock solid on that phone.
My stock Nexus has been anything but. I love voice and data several times a day. Hoping an update will improve things or that I got a bad unit. I have a replacement on the way as my headphone jack doesn't output stereo.
Certainly nothing scientific but in my experience the Verizon network is the best there is (I've been on T-mobile and Sprint, never ATT).
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Can't speak to the voice/data dropping, but as per the headphone jack, I know this may sound like I'm talking down to you, but I'm really not: Did you try pushing the headphone plug all the way in until it clicks into place?
Samsung phones for some reason have very tight headphone connections. On my Vibrant, and on my GNex, I had to push the plug in pretty hard to get it to go all the way in. On the Vibrant, I thought I had the same exact problem as it was only outputting to the left speaker, but then I gave it a nice little push and it was fine.
Just thought I'd pass that along.
I've been on Verizon for quite a few years, with a bit of time on other networks through family phones or work phones. the network really is solid. data rates on 3G do not compare to good HSPDA, but LTE is fantastic. as far as the nexus itself, I have found that it has the exact same voice reception as my three previous android devices, and actually think the 3G data works better most of the time. now, the signal indicator is always lower, but actual signal strength seems to be identical, regardless of how many "bars" there are.
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Can't speak to the voice/data dropping, but as per the headphone jack, I know this may sound like I'm talking down to you, but I'm really not: Did you try pushing the headphone plug all the way in until it clicks into place?
Samsung phones for some reason have very tight headphone connections. On my Vibrant, and on my GNex, I had to push the plug in pretty hard to get it to go all the way in. On the Vibrant, I thought I had the same exact problem as it was only outputting to the left speaker, but then I gave it a nice little push and it was fine.
Just thought I'd pass that along.
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No offense taken ;-)
Actually I tried everything. I use it with the headphones plugged all the way in, and it worked for a couple of weeks and then suddenly stopped working. I tried a different pair of headphones too. The only time it does work is if I hold the headphone plug just barely into the jack. If I let go it falls right out.
Helluva silly thing to go wrong.
Alottt of threads have harked about the verizon gnex having poor connection. In myself have switched 3 different phones. And still have the issue. Tech support even tested them and said themselves there is definently and issue. Google code has ALOT of tickets specifying the same thing. This is slowly cooking into something serious
I was this tmobile for 7+. Took my wife's Verizon plan..we switched...she can even tell the poor reception. I just want to know if this can be fixed software wise because...I reaaallly like this phone but its very scary.
Your definitely not alone guys. This will gain traction in the coming days
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Thanks for all the replies! My guess after reading all the post is that its still a major work in progress. Verizon has a lot of users and a major Rep to hold up so they'll probably fix it and not leave us in a bad situation?
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Thanks for all the replies! My guess after reading all the post is that its still a major work in progress. Verizon has a lot of users and a major Rep to hold up so they'll probably fix it and not leave us in a bad situation?
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LTE is still in Beta stage for sure. Obviously they'll figure it out eventually. It's their long term strategy to go all LTE for voice and data.
I too have this issue. Signal is significantly lower and I often lose signal altogether. Switching from 3G to 4G is also flaky. Just for the hell of it I called up VZW support and they said it's a work in progress and they are working with Samsung to get a resolution.
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I too have this issue. Signal is significantly lower and I often lose signal altogether. Switching from 3G to 4G is also flaky. Just for the hell of it I called up VZW support and they said it's a work in progress and they are working with Samsung to get a resolution.
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I usually just leave mine in CDMA mode only due to the 4G/3G switching. I definitely get weaker signal in my house and slower LTE data speeds with the GNex compared to the Rezound I had for several weeks.
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I usually just leave mine in CDMA mode only due to the 4G/3G switching. I definitely get weaker signal in my house and slower LTE data speeds with the GNex compared to the Rezound I had for several weeks.
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I too leave mine in CDMA mode for most of the time. Signal can still be -83 dBm and it can drop off to -120 dBm at any given time, or drop signal completely and show 0 dBm.
I am having the same issues and have a thread going at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1403133
This is seeming to be widespread so hopefully there is a fix in the near future. For now, the 4.03 radio update others have mentioned helped me quite a bit, although it did not fix it. You can find it here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1403133 if you have not seen it already.
I am also in the same boat as you as I rooted to install CM9 the same day I got the phone. After reading the forums I believe the issue lies in the radio software (hopefully not hardware) and not with the ROM itself since CM9 is still very beta.
I purchased a Galaxy Nexus from Verizon shortly after release and I ended up returning it due to connection issues. The signal was very weak in areas where I normally have a good signal strength. This was causing some missed calls. Also, I had troubles staying connected to my wifi from the bedroom when every other wireless device I own had no such issue.
I am not overly impressed with SGS3 and I find the $399 no contract Galaxy Nexus to be very attractive. I am considering giving the GNexus another try but I don't want to go through the hassle if I am going to have the same issues.
Finally, my question is, will I have a better connection with the non-Verizon version of the phone purchased directly from Google either due to it being a different version or due to updates since I last tried it with Verizon shortly after release?
I enjoyed the phone other than the issues I mentioned above. I am currently back with AT&T and off contract since I returned the Verizon phone. Thanks in advance for your opinions.
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Well I didn't get a response here, but I ordered mine from google yesterday. Hoping for the best and will post what differences I see in case anyone is interested.
Honestly don't think the WiFi will be drastically better. They're pretty much the same, although I've never particularly had issues on my GSM model.
Hope it works out.
The GSM doesn't have cell signal issues like the Verizon one. But wifi will be the same. I've found the wifi range to match my atrix for distance from router. I ignore the bars and just read the signal dBm and its fine.
I've had my GNex for a little over a week now. At home and at work, I get great signal for GSM/3G, and Wifi is excellent, as long as it's 2.4GHz. 5GHz works, but is weaker due to higher frequencies not penetrating walls as well.
Out and about, it's a different story. MANY business that I go to will have ZERO signal indoors, and I will have to go outside to do something as simple as a Yelp check-in. GPS also falters pretty seriously. I upgraded to 4.0.4 as soon as I could. My phone is rooted, but has the stock ROM. My Captivate got a MUCH better signal than the GNex, and was about to ask if anyone knew a way to boost the signal. My battery life is phenomenal, but I would gladly sacrifice some of it to be able to get a usable signal inside a building made of something other than wood.
UPDATE: After I did a bit of research, I determined that the GNex that shipped from Google had the XXLA2 radio on it, which is odd since it's a phone that's only sold in the US. I did a bit of research and changed the radio to UGLC1. If I'm right, the European baseband won't do anything on 850MHz, but the NA Baseband will. I'll test it out and report back here. If I'm right, then shame on Google for shipping a phone with the wrong radio!
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I've had my GNex for a little over a week now. At home and at work, I get great signal for GSM/3G, and Wifi is excellent, as long as it's 2.4GHz. 5GHz works, but is weaker due to higher frequencies not penetrating walls as well.
Out and about, it's a different story. MANY business that I go to will have ZERO signal indoors, and I will have to go outside to do something as simple as a Yelp check-in. GPS also falters pretty seriously. I upgraded to 4.0.4 as soon as I could. My phone is rooted, but has the stock ROM. My Captivate got a MUCH better signal than the GNex, and was about to ask if anyone knew a way to boost the signal. My battery life is phenomenal, but I would gladly sacrifice some of it to be able to get a usable signal inside a building made of something other than wood.
UPDATE: After I did a bit of research, I determined that the GNex that shipped from Google had the XXLA2 radio on it, which is odd since it's a phone that's only sold in the US. I did a bit of research and changed the radio to UGLC1. If I'm right, the European baseband won't do anything on 850MHz, but the NA Baseband will. I'll test it out and report back here. If I'm right, then shame on Google for shipping a phone with the wrong radio!
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Let me know how that goes. Definitely interested!
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The GSM doesn't have cell signal issues like the Verizon one. But wifi will be the same. I've found the wifi range to match my atrix for distance from router. I ignore the bars and just read the signal dBm and its fine.
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Actually...there are quire a few threads on XDA where GSM users DO have issues
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Actually...there are quire a few threads on XDA where GSM users DO have issues
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OK then it definitely doesn't seem as wide spread as the cdma one. Solid signal for me personally.
RogerPodacter said:
The GSM doesn't have cell signal issues like the Verizon one. But wifi will be the same. I've found the wifi range to match my atrix for distance from router. I ignore the bars and just read the signal dBm and its fine.
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What would you consider adequate dBm?
OK, I've had my GNex for a little while now and I can definitely say that I'm happier with GSM version. I have none of the signal issues that I had with the Verizon version. Thanks to all that replied!
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So my GNex loses the 3G signal every few minutes, or sometimes more often than that. It dropped twice while writing this post. This is pissing me off more than I can put into words. I know others have had this issue, but I think that the connection problems are increased because of where I live... this either doesn't happen to me when I'm at work in another city or happens so little that I never notice it.
Is there anything I can do? Do you think it would do me any good at all to call Sprint?
I'm using the stock FD02 radio running CM9 with Samurai kernel and the Trickster MOD. But this happened just as often before I even rooted.
Help appreciated!
Tell sprint to give you a network extender. If it is the signal at your house that's all you can do.
"Long is the way, and hard, that out of hell leads up to light."
It is a known issue with the Galaxy Nexus that the signal is not the greatest. That is why I left Sprint for Verizon (only to have the GNex).
I had kinda decent signal with my EVO, SGSII and iPhone with Sprint...so I thought getting the GNex, with known signal issue would be the death of me. So I got the phone I HAD TO HAVE with a carrier that would at the very least "boost" the weak radios that Samsung has....and for the record, I have killer signal, unlike I've ever seen before....albeit, I'm paying out the ass for it.
(roughly 20 buck more a month then Sprint)
Now if I were in your shoes, I'd call Sprint. They might be able to trade phones with you, if you're willing to part with your GNex. If not (like I couldn't)...you may want to look into the option posted just above my post, or even do the unthinkable......
....go with Verizon.
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Tell sprint to give you a network extender. If it is the signal at your house that's all you can do.
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I've heard of this, but I thought it was only for actual phone signal, not 3G. It's the AirRave thing what you're talking about?
It is the AirRave that he is speaking of, and it will increase your 3G yes. I had a friend who got an AirRave cause once inside his house, there was zero signal. Turn the AirRave on....and beautiful signal throughout the house (pretty much).
He also got it free.
I've never had sprint so I don't know if their network extender repeats EVDO or not. Verizon's does.
May be that's because the CPU clock is set to 350MHz as a base limit which causes the phone to drop signals when not in use. Try increasing the base limit to 750MHz and see if it make some difference. You can use SetCPU for that.
I'm having the same losing signal problem as well, and I do have the network extender. My problem is the phone says 3g on top but it is really only using 1x. Its a defective radio, Sprint is replacing my gnex.
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Sprint is sending me an AirRave so I guess I'll have to wait and see how much it helps.
I have problems with that too. Only in low signal areas though. The data will kick off if I'm in an area that barely has 1 bar for example.
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Note that data toggling on / off usually will kick it back on.
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Sprint is sending me an AirRave so I guess I'll have to wait and see how much it helps.
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Wait so call sprint get a free repeater? I wish Verizon worked this way.
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My colleague had this exact same problem and he fixed it by flashing a new baseband (radio from a post in this forum); you may wish to try this. And supposedly the Wifi performance will improve too.
kelkelkel said:
My colleague had this exact same problem and he fixed it by flashing a new baseband (radio from a post in this forum); you may wish to try this. And supposedly the Wifi performance will improve too.
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I'm running the latest... which one should I try?
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My colleague had this exact same problem and he fixed it by flashing a new baseband (radio from a post in this forum); you may wish to try this. And supposedly the Wifi performance will improve too.
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While it is worth a try there are two separate radio issues at hand. One is a faulty device and one is a bad baseband.
Also the baseband won't affect wifi performance for the better or worse.
"Long is the way, and hard, that out of hell leads up to light."
I've seen threads of people not happy with the data signal, but I didn't realize how bad it was until I was in a movie theater today. I couldn't get any data signal, not even basic google search. I even tried re-booting and still nothing. Picked up my wife's iPhone 4s and it was flying around internet sites.
I tested the same thing afterwards at the local food market and the exact same thing. My phone, no inside signal, her iPhone, perfect.
How can a phone become so popular with such crappy signal?
I've seen complaints too but I've got to say that my One has been on par with my iPhones, Galaxy S3, Blackberry's, etc... No signal issues here whatsoever
The other person on my plan has an iPhone 5 and we both usually have the same amount of signal anywhere we go
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I've seen threads of people not happy with the data signal, but I didn't realize how bad it was until I was in a movie theater today. I couldn't get any data signal, not even basic google search. I even tried re-booting and still nothing. Picked up my wife's iPhone 4s and it was flying around internet sites.
I tested the same thing afterwards at the local food market and the exact same thing. My phone, no inside signal, her iPhone, perfect.
How can a phone become so popular with such crappy signal?
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note 2 is popular as can be and mine drops calls everyday.
I would get it swapped out. Maybe you got a dud. HTC usually has better radios than everybody but Moto.
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I've seen complaints too but I've got to say that my One has been on par with my iPhones, Galaxy S3, Blackberry's, etc... No signal issues here whatsoever
The other person on my plan has an iPhone 5 and we both usually have the same amount of signal anywhere we go
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The only huge issue I have with it is its TERRIBLE hand-off, at least when my iPhone 5 or DNA lost 4g LTE it would grab it the moment it was available again. The One just holds onto that crappy 3G for dear life until I force it to go to LTE again.
Edit: Or wait 5-10 minutes.
I don't notice a difference from my Galaxy S4.
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I've had the phone for two weeks and saw the 3G icon for the first time today. Signal has been fine...
Ranger093 said:
The only huge issue I have with it is its TERRIBLE hand-off, at least when my iPhone 5 or DNA lost 4g LTE it would grab it the moment it was available again. The One just holds onto that crappy 3G for dear life until I force it to go to LTE again.
Edit: Or wait 5-10 minutes.
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That's weird! I haven't experienced that problem either. I've only noticed my One on 3G once but the hand off to LTE seemed pretty normal to me. I can't really comment on that issue though because my area is pretty much all LTE so I don't deal with the hand offs.
I wonder if it's a defect in your phone? Does the One allow us to update the PRL? I remember the HTC EVO had an update PRL option that I think could do something with service issues... something or other, I can't really remember.
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That's weird! I haven't experienced that problem either. I've only noticed my One on 3G once but the hand off to LTE seemed pretty normal to me. I can't really comment on that issue though because my area is pretty much all LTE so I don't deal with the hand offs.
I wonder if it's a defect in your phone? Does the One allow us to update the PRL? I remember the HTC EVO had an update PRL option that I think could do something with service issues... something or other, I can't really remember.
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No I don't think it is, GrayWolf has the same issue. I live in Minnesota and frequently travel to jobsites where there is concrete and such. Because Verizon hasn't upgraded every cell site with LTE yet just "Most of them" I frequently go into 3G. When the device goes into 3G for an extended period of time sometimes it takes a reboot to get back to LTE, most of the time it takes awhile to go back. And sometimes it goes right away, it's pretty annoying to be honest and may make me go to the Droid Maxx.
Lte onoff in the market helps me out. It was used for the thunderbolt to turn off the Lte radio when it was new. I toggle to Lte only, wait for it to get a signal them back to cdma+lte
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That's weird! I haven't experienced that problem either. I've only noticed my One on 3G once but the hand off to LTE seemed pretty normal to me. I can't really comment on that issue though because my area is pretty much all LTE so I don't deal with the hand offs.
I wonder if it's a defect in your phone? Does the One allow us to update the PRL? I remember the HTC EVO had an update PRL option that I think could do something with service issues... something or other, I can't really remember.
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Your sim card updates the PRL.
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I'll get a change to test out my reception later. I do know the 4G on the One seems almost twice as fast as my Rezound though.
I find my signal is much better on the One than on my previous SIII or SGN.
Samsung has the worst radios. The Galaxy Nexus absolutely blew in that respect and, everyone came up with theories about false calibration of bars and whatnot, but the fact remained that it sucked with weak reception and poor hand-off between 3G and LTE.
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I find my signal is much better on the One than on my previous SIII or SGN.
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Samsung has the worst radios. The Galaxy Nexus absolutely blew in that respect and, everyone came up with theories about false calibration of bars and whatnot, but the fact remained that it sucked with weak reception and poor hand-off between 3G and LTE.
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I found my Samsung Nexus was horrible, my Galaxy S3 was good... but now my One is not good again. I just hung up with a vzw CSR and he told me they had some problems with SIM cards when the One was released and to go get a new one. He said the SIM card could absolutely fix the problem.
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How can a phone become so popular with such crappy signal?
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My experience has been similar to what you had today. It seems mostly indoors I experienced the problems. I'm wondering, were you able to unlock your phone on day one? I did, and I'm wondering if custom ROMs or other changes we've been able to make have affected our reception.
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My experience has been similar to what you had today. It seems mostly indoors I experienced the problems. I'm wondering, were you able to unlock your phone on day one? I did, and I'm wondering if custom ROMs or other changes we've been able to make have affected our reception.
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I tried on day one, but they couldn't activate my phone... ughhh... but I was told today to get a new sim card.
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Samsung has the worst radios. The Galaxy Nexus absolutely blew in that respect and, everyone came up with theories about false calibration of bars and whatnot, but the fact remained that it sucked with weak reception and poor hand-off between 3G and LTE.
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The Nexus was disappointing in several ways. I didn't go by the bars, but the dBm readout under settings. The Rezound was on par with my DInc, and soon I'll see how The One holds up to that.
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No I don't think it is, GrayWolf has the same issue.
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My issues were related to a bad ril in CyanogenMod.
Only thing I notice now is that text messages take forever to send.
GrayTheWolf said:
My issues were related to a bad ril in CyanogenMod.
Only thing I notice now is that text messages take forever to send.
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Is ril part of the ROM? I'm running hyperdrive and wonder if it could be related?
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My reception in general was better on my DNA. I am yet to see 5 bars on my One, but I'm also yet to see no signal. Using apps like dropbox from the gallery is nearly impossible, takes too long to load even a couple pictures let alone swipe through them. Don't care, I love this phone. My DNA shipped out to the buyer today. No regrets.
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