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moving to T-Mobile from Sprint for a G2?

so, i have an HTC evo "4g" with sprint that i got on launch day, but im really disappointed because sprint 4g has sucked in seattle and chicago. it only works outdoors and even then it feels like sudden bursts and not sustained speed.
i had a g1 on T-Mobile and was happy with it, but I've been in the evo/sprint world for a while so i need some help:
i see that T-Mobile is having an "any phone free" deal this weekend. it seems like it might be worth it to sell my evo, pay the etf fee with sprint, and go back to T-Mobile. what I'd like are some honest unbiased answers if possible, to the following questions.
1) sprint seems to have good prices, $69. unlimited data and 450 any mobile minutes + $10 data fee. is it the same price with T-Mobile? seems to be (500 minutes)
2) what rate of speed does T-Mobile throttle to after 5gb is exceeded?
3) the g2 is what im looking at, but what are similar phones from T-Mobile that I should look at and what are the drawbacks or advantages of the top two or three other phones?
4) can any new T-Mobile phone be rooted easily or do recent hboot/radios/firmware updates make it difficult on the g2 or other phones?
5) how is indoor T-Mobile hspa+ or hsdpa signal? wimax at its 2.x ghz and barely penetrates windows so indoor reception is basically none. what frequency is T-Mobile 4g, how is their coverage?
thanks for any responses. I'd like to make a decision tonight or tomorrow morning to switch or not (and choose the right phone).
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Short awnser: BUY A G2.
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I'll try to answer as best I can.
Although the G2 is my very first Android device, I've been so impressed by it. I would definitely recommend it!
I believe that you're throttled down to EDGE speeds, which is damn pretty horrible because I actually get EDGE where I live and only get HSDPA signal (3G signals) on campus. When I'm on EDGE, I only get about 10kbps... yes, it sounds horrible. But when you are in a good part of town, I've seen mine go to as high as 7mbps!
As of right now, I'm sure that if you get a G2 this weekend, that the root process will be the same. I rooted last month using the gfree method by first getting a temp root and then permanent root. It's pretty cool since a lot of people say that this is the method that results in the least bricked devices. If I can do it, it'll be easy.
T-Mobile signal will really just depend on your location.
The alternative to the Tmobile G2 is the MyTouch4G. I've read that the MT4G is faster; however if the physical keyboard is what you want, then the G2 is the way to go. Both devices are pretty similiar.
Hope I helped.

interesting. thanks for the replies. so when you get throttled after 5gb they always restrict you from the hspa+ network and only let you connect to edge, at whatever connection speed you can manage to pull in from those towers? I figured it would be a set kbps limit. I was also looking at the mytouch 4g and dell streak because I love the huge screen, but the dell streak support community seems to be basically non existant for some reason.
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I actually did EXACTLY this almost a month ago (kinda weird since I live near Seattle too, lol). Bought an Evo on launch day because of the hype etc. and don't get me wrong its a great phone, but the battery life left a lot to be desired, and the 4G sapped battery extremely hard and almost never worked indoors, even when the area was blanketed in 4G coverage.
Eventually I really got put off by the way Sprint treated me after I went through 4 different replacement phones but thats a whole different story. I demanded to be let out of my contract and I've been with T-mo since then w/ a G2. They're great so far and I really love the Even More + plans. $59.99/month and no contract. Can't be beat in my opinion and there's just no way I can go back to a contract, I know I wont have the G2 for 2 years that's just impossible the way technology goes.
So anyways.
1) Plans are about the same price, except the one good thing about Sprint is unlimited calling to ANY mobile carrier, not just T-mo. But it really depends how you call, I really don't call much. Also as I said the Even More+ no contract plans are the beeeest if you're like me.
2) I can't give you good info, never capped. I know a lot of people can give you good info though.
3) Most hardcore Android users will say to just get the G2. It is 99.9% stock android, and has great features. The Streak doesn't have the best support but that's your own deal depends wat you're into. The MyTouch4G isn't your best bet because man that skin is terrible, and to be honest the design is just terrible compared to the G2 (chrome + cheap plastic = ew).
4) G2 is easily perm-rootable, not exactly one click but not impossible. Can't say for the other T-mo offerings.
5) I get great cell penetration inside. Haven't had tons of HSPA+ experience, but its on the same spectrum as their UMTS and HSDPA (1700 I believe?) which is pretty high frequency but I think they space their towers well. A quick comment on the UMTS/HSDPA speeds is that I've been consistently pulling 1.8mbps down AND up. On Sprint I could maybe push that down, but never up. Oh and one other thing, WiFi calling is awesome. I'm home for the weekend and there's very weak service here. Hop on WiFi and you can make calls/texts. I don't like having to rely on it because I wish service would just work here, but its nice to have just in case.
Obviously you're gonna get some positive views of the G2 in this forum but I think I can offer some good perspective cuz I did have the Evo before.

wrb123 said:
so, i have an HTC evo "4g" with sprint that i got on launch day, but im really disappointed because sprint 4g has sucked in seattle and chicago. it only works outdoors and even then it feels like sudden bursts and not sustained speed.
i had a g1 on T-Mobile and was happy with it, but I've been in the evo/sprint world for a while so i need some help:
i see that T-Mobile is having an "any phone free" deal this weekend. it seems like it might be worth it to sell my evo, pay the etf fee with sprint, and go back to T-Mobile. what I'd like are some honest unbiased answers if possible, to the following questions.
1) sprint seems to have good prices, $69. unlimited data and 450 any mobile minutes + $10 data fee. is it the same price with T-Mobile? seems to be (500 minutes)
2) what rate of speed does T-Mobile throttle to after 5gb is exceeded?
3) the g2 is what im looking at, but what are similar phones from T-Mobile that I should look at and what are the drawbacks or advantages of the top two or three other phones?
4) can any new T-Mobile phone be rooted easily or do recent hboot/radios/firmware updates make it difficult on the g2 or other phones?
5) how is indoor T-Mobile hspa+ or hsdpa signal? wimax at its 2.x ghz and barely penetrates windows so indoor reception is basically none. what frequency is T-Mobile 4g, how is their coverage?
thanks for any responses. I'd like to make a decision tonight or tomorrow morning to switch or not (and choose the right phone).
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I was in the exact situation as you. Loved my EVO but Sprint's customer service is absolute ****, 4G coverage is poor, reps constantly lied about when coverage was coming to my area, and the battery life of the EVO was horrible.
1.) Base plan is $79.99. I get 10% off through student rate and talked customer care into giving me Android preferred web plan which is $20 instead of $30. So my net bill is quite a bit lower than my Sprint Everything Plus bill was.
2.) Don't know. I've personally never gone over 5 GB of data on any phone I've owned.
3.) Galaxy S 4G and MyTouch 4G. Both have FFCs. Neither have keyboards. GS4G has faster data but poor upgrade history and it's yet to be seen if the Vibrant dev community efforts will be compatible.
4.) Don't know. This is better handled at whatever other phone your considerings respective community.
5.) T-Mo 3G is 1700 MHz downlink and 2100MHz uplink. Coverage is fair in Eastern Washington. Certain areas are still EDGE only. Haven't had any issues keeping a decent 3G signal indoors in dense areas. My EVO actually roamed indoors in a few places which I thought was pretty pathetic. My average speeds range from 2-6 Mbs down and 1-1.8 Mbs up.

I was in the same boat. Wanted to leave Sprint for T-Mobile.
It's 2011 and all T-Mobile could give me was EDGE indoors and out. Not worth the money. Especially when the coverage map showed HSPA+ coverage. I live in Tampa, FL.
Sprint isn't any better (claims indoor 4G, can't get it outside or inside), but it was cheap at the time. Not so much now since they keep jacking up prices. First removal of employee discount on almost everything, and then the stupid +$10 premium data on EVERY smartphone.
I guess I'll be letting AT&T or Big Red milk me for money in the near future.
TL;DR - Coverage maps are bull****. You have to take the hard credit pull hit and try the phones out for yourself. I returned my T-mobile phones in less than 24hrs with no questions asked.

Man I am LOVING my G2. And believe it or not, one of my favorite things about it is the battery life!!!! I've gone almost two days without much charge at all and I'm still sitting at 22%. Seriously impressive. I am running the cyanogenmod 6.1.1. It's pretty damn smooth but it seems to have a few quirky behaviors. But then again, most custom ROM's do too. But for the most part it's simply the ****. I show this phone off to the iphone 4 followed by plenty of questions afterwards.
It's a dope phone. Go for it. You won't be disappointed.

Hot_Hands said:
1.) Base plan is $79.99. I get 10% off through student rate and talked customer care into giving me Android preferred web plan which is $20 instead of $30. So my net bill is quite a bit lower than my Sprint Everything Plus bill was.
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Could you give a little more info on the $20 Android Preferred web plan over the normal web plan? never heard of this.

martonikaj said:
Could you give a little more info on the $20 Android Preferred web plan over the normal web plan? never heard of this.
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I also have have the $20 andriod preferred web, you have to ask to speak to customer loyalty dept. And you have to have been with Tmo for a certain number of years, I don't know how long the requirement is but I have been with Tmo for Nine Years.
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I believe the requirement is 1 or 2 years. I was a customer for 4 before my EVO misadventure so I smooth talked them into letting me have it. You must talk to the loyalty department. No other department will be able to do it and will probably have no idea what you're talking about.

joemm said:
I also have have the $20 andriod preferred web, you have to ask to speak to customer loyalty dept. And you have to have been with Tmo for a certain number of years, I don't know how long the requirement is but I have been with Tmo for Nine Years.
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Alright thanks, well I got a while to go before I'm there . It just seemed like they were pretty reluctant to make my plan any cheaper than it already is. The Even More+ $59.99 plan is pretty cheap already and I can't argue with it.

I'm not sure if it'll apply to Even More Plus plans since the data plan is included and not a separate add-on.

What? Unlimited "won't" extend to LTE...

I was reading cnet and I came across this article. We all know by now about Sprint transitioning toward LTE, but what I didn't know according to cnet "Of course, this won’t extend to LTE, but offering unlimited 3G and WiMAX plans may be enough to keep many customers from jumping ship until Sprint’s a bit more competitive in the LTE market."
I thought we keep our unlimited data plan, after all I am paying $10 extra for the so called 4G, and when Sprints 4G speed catches up to all the other carriers, I have to switch to a capped plan?! I hope this is not true.
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http://m.intomobile.com/2011/12/05/sprint-launch-lte-devices-2h-2012/?page=1

http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/sprints-first-lte-handsets-coming-second-half-2012/2011-12-05
Article in OP seems out of context.
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xcharles718 said:
http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/sprints-first-lte-handsets-coming-second-half-2012/2011-12-05
Article in OP seems out of context.
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I read this before, what caught my attention is that folks on 3G and "clearwire 4G" keep their unlimited plan. So if I want 4G LTE, I have to switch plans?

Maybe I'm a bit jaded, but i've learned to expect nothing in concessions or good will from Sprint. There is a clear movement toward penny pinching with current subscribers (fees, SERO) and crowd pleasing with new subscribers (iPhone, "unlimited" data... for a fee).
Who knows, maybe they parlay the current premium data fee into a double-premium data $20 fee for LTE devices, with a $10 admin fee. Probably not, but rewind two years and ask yourself if you'd expect them to do what they did in the last 6 quarters...

It will probably depend on the success of current spectrum deals and LTE rollout speed. Sprint's LTE on its own is not enough because they have only half the spectrum of Verizon. However, if Clearwire and Lightsquared successfully develop their LTE networks, then Sprint may still be able to offer unlimited 4G LTE to subscribers.

Jayavarman said:
It will probably depend on the success of current spectrum deals and LTE rollout speed. Sprint's LTE on its own is not enough because they have only half the spectrum of Verizon. However, if Clearwire and Lightsquared successfully develop their LTE networks, then Sprint may still be able to offer unlimited 4G LTE to subscribers.
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Hmm... ok. Well would it be worth it to stay with Sprint IF they limit data since Sprint's LTE is apparently only half of what Verizon has?
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niv3d said:
Hmm... ok. Well would it be worth it to stay with Sprint IF they limit data since Sprint's LTE is apparently only half of what Verizon has?
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If unlimited data plans disappear, I will probably leave Sprint. But it will also depend on pricing and coverage where I live at the time.

Jayavarman said:
If unlimited data plans disappear, I will probably leave Sprint. But it will also depend on pricing and coverage where I live at the time.
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+1 for me also

Alex1x said:
I thought we keep our unlimited data plan, after all I am paying $10 extra for the so called 4G, and when Sprints 4G speed catches up to all the other carriers, I have to switch to a capped plan?! I hope this is not true.
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http://m.intomobile.com/2011/12/05/sprint-launch-lte-devices-2h-2012/?page=1
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That is funny.. A while ago I was on the phone and I was *****ing at sprint in my most professional manner and I said that.. "I'm paying extra for this 4g that I can't even take advantage of because of my area" The lady was quick to correct me and call it the premium data package. I love how they change the wording to avoid issue.
I'm confident that I too wil be leaving sprint. My bill really isn't much cheaper than my friends who have Verizon or ATT. Pretty much what pushed me over the edge was when they got rid of my ability to upgrade every year and then also took away the 1 year contract. I'll more than likely buy whatever phone I want and never be held to a contract again but the value in me being able to get a new phone every year and sell my old one.. Well that was too good to pass up. With out that ability.. See ya.
One thing I found crazy is that Sprint has a deadline for when they expect to have their LTE deployment finished. That really makes me feel like where I live.. I will never see it. I doubt that they are still deploying WiMax and their 3G network is absolutely slooooowwwww.
If it were not for the Galaxy S II with a notification light I might not be with sprint now hahah.

tuna-83 said:
That is funny.. A while ago I was on the phone and I was *****ing at sprint in my most professional manner and I said that.. "I'm paying extra for this 4g that I can't even take advantage of because of my area" The lady was quick to correct me and call it the premium data package. I love how they change the wording to avoid issue.
I'm confident that I too wil be leaving sprint. My bill really isn't much cheaper than my friends who have Verizon or ATT. Pretty much what pushed me over the edge was when they got rid of my ability to upgrade every year and then also took away the 1 year contract. I'll more than likely buy whatever phone I want and never be held to a contract again but the value in me being able to get a new phone every year and sell my old one.. Well that was too good to pass up. With out that ability.. See ya.
One thing I found crazy is that Sprint has a deadline for when they expect to have their LTE deployment finished. That really makes me feel like where I live.. I will never see it. I doubt that they are still deploying WiMax and their 3G network is absolutely slooooowwwww.
If it were not for the Galaxy S II with a notification light I might not be with sprint now hahah.
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I too am switching...this Thursday or Friday when the galaxy nexus arrives. I'm going to take advantage of Verizon's awesome service in my area, that's almost 2mbps 3g and over 20mbps lte, my employer discount of 19 percent, double data promotion and the Google supported galaxy nexus.
Coming from sprints 200 kbps 3g speeds here and no 4g, this is gonna be a hell of an upgrade.
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Jayavarman said:
If unlimited data plans disappear, I will probably leave Sprint. But it will also depend on pricing and coverage where I live at the time.
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Well said.

Jayavarman said:
If unlimited data plans disappear, I will probably leave Sprint. But it will also depend on pricing and coverage where I live at the time.
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Same for me

I've been waiting for 3G to be fixed in Milwaukee since 2009 when I had the Hero. Every month I get a new excuse that they're upgrading the towers in my area later on in the month.
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I really wish that the people leaving would stop threatening it and just do it.
These idle threats have been going on since January on XDA.
Leave. Please, so we can get back to actual discussions about android and developing etc instead of whining about a problem with a simple solution to no end.

Err0rist said:
I've been waiting for 3G to be fixed in Milwaukee since 2009 when I had the Hero. Every month I get a new excuse that they're upgrading the towers in my area later on in the month.
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Data here in Wauwatosa is sometimes fast, sometimes slow. Just sitting in my house, I can go from 150KBps (kiloBYTES) to 5KBps in the same evening from one day to the next at the same general time.
However, when I'm in Chicago, Sprint has far better data speeds than my co-workers who are on Verizon.
So weird.

To clear up one misconception: we're not paying the $10 for 4G. Sprint stopped claiming that early on. It's on all premium phones, even the ones that don't support 4G. They claim it's a premium for premium phones which are more likely to use the network more heavily. No tie directly to 4G at all anymore.

Dalmus said:
Data here in Wauwatosa is sometimes fast, sometimes slow. Just sitting in my house, I can go from 150KBps (kiloBYTES) to 5KBps in the same evening from one day to the next at the same general time.
However, when I'm in Chicago, Sprint has far better data speeds than my co-workers who are on Verizon.
So weird.
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Anecdotal speed test conducted today at a Chicago area Starbucks:
My ET4G w/ EK02 modem: 4 megabit down
Friend's Thunderbolt LTE CM7: 17 megabit down
We ended up tethering my phone off his device so he can play around with it and render a few commonly visited webpages to "experience" dual core/1gb ram.
He's gonna buy the Nexus Prime off-contract next week D:

I always forget about 4g, since we don't (officially) have it in the Milwaukee area.
The one unofficial 4g tower I'm ever around (near the airport) gives me about 12mbit. Of course, in that area I pull almost 2mbit on 3g there...
I know the sprint 4g towers have a very short range... Once I get more than a mile away from the 4g, the speeds drop dramatically fast. Knowing Sprint, they probably have just four towers covering all of Chicago.
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I never see anything over 250 kpbs at home, sometimes it's lower than 30 kbps. I can't drive and stream music or even watch youtube videos on 3G. When I had my hero (2009) I was getting 1.3mbps constant.There's no way they've been working on the towers for over a year with no results. We're paying for 3G and 4G and not getting either.
There's a rumor on the sprint forum that sprint sold half of their towers to cricket mobile.
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Alex1x said:
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Here's how I honestly read this article:
Yadda yadda yadda... yadda yadda yadda...
....yadda yadda yadda...
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nothing new here at all...
...same ol' stuff we've been talking about for several months....yadda yadda yadda...
...yadda yadda yadda.... unsubstantiated claim with absolutely no evidence and in fact evidence to the contrary likely put in the article to cause drama and increase viewership...yadda yadda yadda...
end.
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[Q] Which is better sgs2 sprint or tmobile?

Im womdering which sgs2 is better. Im looking to upgrade to a sgs2 and i have to choose the tmo or sprint one. I read about some issues on the tmo one compared to the sprint regarding the screen and ffc but the tmo has nfc so it seems more future proof. Which would u recommend?

depends on what carrier you are currently on

The T mobile version has the old crap chipset. They have to stock overclock 1.5 compared to our 1.2 just to stay in the game. So for my 2cents epic is the way Togo. Plus T mobile sucks donkey balls. Oh yeah one more thing unlimited data babby.

well im on tmobile now and i would like the dataspeeds i currently have but i heard sprints speeds are slow compared to tmo but idk if sprint is really slow in miami and is it much of a difference going from gsm to cdma?

Hardware wise sprints is superior.
CDMA has better voice coverage generally. Data speeds on T-Mobile will be superior to anything sprint offers if you are well covered.
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Indrid Cole said:
The T mobile version has the old crap chipset. They have to stock overclock 1.5 compared to our 1.2 just to stay in the game. So for my 2cents epic is the way Togo. Plus T mobile sucks donkey balls. Oh yeah one more thing unlimited data babby.
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You beat me to it on the chipset....
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If u have unlimited data with T-Mobile I would stay with them but if not Sprint is not bad either just cdma is older technology.

Here is a video comparing the 3 USA versions.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05VI6PHrAmo

Wow from that video the only thing tmo has is data but is sprints 4g truly unlimited? And what about nfc chips? And the chipset is really that bad on The tmo version?

So other than so 3g speeds hows the sprint gs2 development going? Im so used to the regular devs in the vibrant section and tmo gs2 are any of the devs good? And screen wise and ffc wise sprints is way better correct? I ask that because i saw an article showing the difference between the sprints and tmo screens and ffc

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The development is fantastic and growing daily. The screen is the best i've seen on any phone. crisp, clear, large and colorful.
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The development here has really picked up and will only get better as CM7, Miui, etc gain official support. The phone itself has been great for me. When I had my OG Epic, I carried an extra battery and still had to consider taking a charger if I was going to be gone a full day. I don't even worry about that anymore and its fast and smooth
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Thats great! Well now all i need is to get a good deal on the phones for a family plan and use my corporate discount and im set lol thanks to everyone for your honest opinions

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Sprint's data is unlimited. Keep in mind even the Sprint.com website lists 3G speeds at 300kb/s-700kb/s average with peak speeds of 2Mb/s. Everyone that is whining about their data speeds is actually experiencing what they should. The T-Mo version chipset is not bad, just isn't up to par with the Exynos processor. NFC chips are highly overrated and are simply a gimmick at the moment. Never used mine once when I had the Nexus and my other tech never uses his. It's going to be years before that technology catches on.
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I'm sorry but that doesn't reflect what I (and MANY others) have been experiencing.. I max out around 20KBps and usually don't even get that. After reading other user's experiences with Sprint 3G I'm not the only one. And "whining" isn't what it's called.. we pay Sprint and expect decent service in return.

NFC was awesome I got free $10 from google

ker0zene said:
I'm sorry but that doesn't reflect what I (and MANY others) have been experiencing.. I max out around 20KBps and usually don't even get that. After reading other user's experiences with Sprint 3G I'm not the only one. And "whining" isn't what it's called.. we pay Sprint and expect decent service in return.
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I have to agree with this. I'd be happy if I averaged what Sprint says we should be getting on 3g speeds. It's rare that I ever get 4g speeds anywhere close to TMos HSPA+ as well. Obviously it depends on where you are, but I'm only 10 miles from downtown Seattle and sometimes I'm data roaming at my house.

Oh how the IPhone has warped everyone's thinking.
YOU DON'T CHOOSE THE NETWORK BY THE PHONE!
Service, monthly cost and coverage in your area is how you decide. If you let the phone be the deciding factor you will never be happy. Every few weeks there is always a better phone. Unfortunately, unless you buy your phones without subsidy, you are stuck on a carrier for 2 years.
If you could put the same rom on all three versions, I doubt you could tell the difference in performance. I will say, I like the look of the Tmobile phone better. I wish the epic had a full covering removable back.

I came from sprint and my only complaint is data speeds, but it hasn't been terrible for me. Another issue was service in my basement, but Sprint is sending me an airave..
For me, the switch was due to money, I have 3 lines and wanted data/messaging and all that good stuff, and I get a 25% discount with sprint.
I'll deal with slightly lower data to save 50 bucks a month.

My girlfriend just picked up the T-Mobile S2. It is sharp with its metal edge and buttons. I wasn't there when she picked it up - but the guy in the store was bragging to her that the 1.5 GHz was better than my 1.2 on my Touch. Only other difference is the 1850 mAh battery compared to my 1800.
I checked it out and saw the chipsets were different and this thread confirmed what I was thinking - T-Mobile overclocked the **** out of an old chipset to hit 1.5.
The Touch crushed T-Mobile stock S2 on a Quadrant bench test, but she beat my on SQ bench test. For whatever bench tests are really worth.
Still like the metal edge and her 4G averaged 9 Mbps to my 3.5 Mbps on Sprint's 4G. She has a 5 GB monthly limit which she will never hit for $30. But T-Mobile still wants $229 for the phone and they won't upgrade her early even though the contract was renewed in Jan. I wonder how much longer they will stay in business now that the merger is dead. I don't think the AT&T cash is going to keep them afloat that long.

Let me just say Epic 4gt to boost mobile n paying 35 unlimited everything n with a sprint prl find me a better deal n i will switch carriers

tr1zrus said:
Let me just say Epic 4gt to boost mobile n paying 35 unlimited everything n with a sprint prl find me a better deal n i will switch carriers
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Do you have 4g?

Debating switching to Verizon Nexus

Currently on the Sprint Galaxy SII, running a great ROM and ICS theme. Point being I like this device alot.
But...Sprint service is very very slow, 3G is 1x Edge speeds, and 4G WiMax is a gimmick, very spotty and hard to hold a connection if you can find one.
Now Verizon is known as the best network for quality and speeds, etc...and the Galaxy-Nexus is the latest newest Android out, with updates received first.
Pricing plans seem pretty similar, actually Verizon might be a hair cheaper on the family plan.
Opinion ?
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I think my question is more of a Sprint vs Verizon, I know the Galaxy-Nexus is more of a side grade compared to the Galaxy SII, both phones have their advantages over each other.
I am just unhappy with Sprint's 3G speeds and 4G being so crappy. Plus Sprint has poor coverage in the outer burbs of Chicago, like my Parents and Sister's house Sprint has like almost no connection in their area. Pricing wise they are good, but surprisingly the Verizon family plan would be just about the same price, actually a hair cheaper on Verizon, BUT...Verizon does not offer free any mobile to any mobile phone calls like Sprint and ATT offer.
But I keep reading about Sprint's network plan for 2012/2013, and sounds like MAJOR improvements coming, but that is all maybe and possibly. And when will that actually happen in the real world ? Like improved 3G speeds they need to fix A.S.A.P. Sprint's 3G is by far the worst on all U.S. carriers, I am shocked at how bad it is. The past 18 months I get at best 150k/sec downloads, where T-Mobile, ATT, Verizon all get like 1mb/sec, almost ten times faster. And LTE is no comparison to WiMax.
Hmm...

I've had Sprint since 1999. I haven't switched to anyone else because Spritn undoubtedly has the best price, on par with T-Mobile's plans (Sprint's coverage near me is a lot better). I've looked at switching to verizon countless times. I've come to a conclusion that Verizon is a LOT more expensive. Sprint charges an additional $20/month + $10 premium data. Verizon charges $10/month + $30 for 'capped' data + another $30 for texting. (Atleast that's what it was back in 2010 when I looked into switching). The plan would intitally cost me an extra $40/month, + I'd have sacrificed two smartphones for flip phones. If I was to get 4 lines with 4 smartphones, there'd be a mandatory additional $30/line for data, so add $120 on top of whatever your base pay is. Sprint also has 27% discount through my employer, Verizon has 20%.
Sure, Verizon is faster in most cases, but I'd hold tight because of two things.
1) Sprint's ET4G is arguably the best phone in the US market right now. Everything about it to me is perfect, as if it was built for me!
2) Sprint's working on a network which should be employed in many markets by mid 2012. Sprint's already been dishing out 3G upgrades and it's only a matter of time before 4G LTE hits in a lot of major cities.
Just my 2 cents. And if Verizon changed it's pricing, then still don't switch.

The only opinion that matters is your own. You seem to know the pros and cons for each. As long as unlimited data is available, that's the one I am staying with but have great 4g signal strength
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Thanks OverStew, I am very happy with my Galaxy SII, and your theme makes it's AWESOME.
My buddy has the Verizon-Nexus, and it is cool, but little things like the background being white in a lot of menus, I prefer the black theme behind texts, and menus like the Galaxy SII has, and the SII is much thinner than the V-Nexus, plus battery life is amazing on my setup. And I have ZERO lag whatsoever on this phone, where the Nexus actually stutters in some cases. But a lot of that can be fixed with a good ROM and themes.
My problem is I am an Android-oholic, since starting with Android phones I have gone with; MyTouch3G...Nexus-One...EVO 4G...Nexus-S 4G...E4GT...I like having the newest and greatest device, but I am no money bags either, need to watch my wallet, can get carried away with too many upgrades. But selling phones on Craigslist helps the pay for upgrades
I think best thing would be to take a deep breath, hold onto my cool E4GT, and wait for CES next month, I heard Sprint has some bad ass devices to show off, like the upcoming Intel+Samsung Galaxy phone, will be reveled Jan 10th, and supposedly on sale in March. And maybe Sprint will get the Galaxy-Nexus too early next year ? And the Galaxy SIII is supposed to be out earlier than normal, I heard a February preview, with it going on sale in late Spring, and the SIII will blow away the Nexus.

Verizon, T-mobile or AT&T

Hi all, I have a 2 year contract with Sprint, but I just cant take it anymore, I am planning on cancelling my contract and sign with another company, but I am not sure which one is the best (or less bad) for me in NYC.
Can anyone recommend one with good reception and real data (not the 30kbps 3G sprint has)
Thanks.

In NYC i get 2mbps on where ever the subway is above ground
1.5mbls when ever I'm outside
1mbps ish in building
All on 3g
But i would go use Verizon
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gtuansdiamm said:
In NYC i get 2mbps on where ever the subway is above ground
1.5mbls when ever I'm outside
1mbps ish in building
All on 3g
But i would go use Verizon
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I get 2.5 mbps in NYC but that is at 3 am. other wise i get between 1-2 mbps. I am also fed up. TMO has a new unlimited no throttle for about 80 per month..My co-worker speed on tmo is 10-14 mbps....

I am starting to think that my phone is broken, because on cloudy days I dont get reception inside buidings, I serious, I am having a bad experience with sprint
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Been hearing that we should be getting lte soon in NYC, but even then that is probably gonna be spotty at best...I had T-Mobile for a long time and never had any issues speed wise, and its fairly cheap, do some research on their new unlimited plan if you can't wait.
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30Glock said:
I get 2.5 mbps in NYC but that is at 3 am. other wise i get between 1-2 mbps. I am also fed up. TMO has a new unlimited no throttle for about 80 per month..My co-worker speed on tmo is 10-14 mbps....
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Isn't slightly over 2mbps the max for 3G speeds? If you're getting consistently over 1, I wouldn't complain. There are plenty of people elsewhere getting a fraction of that...like 10% of that.
I'd be thrilled with consistent 1-1.5mbps 3G speeds. I'm around Chicago, so LTE is in a few places which is nice, but I'm excited about when they finally upgrade the backhaul for 3G so the speeds will be better.
As for the OP, I would also try changing modems as well, see if some of them work better. Check with other NYC people and see what they're using. Modem can have a HUGE impact on speeds.

hayzooos said:
Isn't slightly over 2mbps the max for 3G speeds? If you're getting consistently over 1, I wouldn't complain. There are plenty of people elsewhere getting a fraction of that...like 10% of that.
I'd be thrilled with consistent 1-1.5mbps 3G speeds. I'm around Chicago, so LTE is in a few places which is nice, but I'm excited about when they finally upgrade the backhaul for 3G so the speeds will be better.
As for the OP, I would also try changing modems as well, see if some of them work better. Check with other NYC people and see what they're using. Modem can have a HUGE impact on speeds.
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Usually here that from sprint users. Some seem to conform. Others like me who tried sprint realize that's not the 3G full potential.
So I rather pay less for tmobile And get awesome speeds. IMHO
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Mark's ollars
Having tried Att and Sprint....I got pretty $hitty coverage with both and this was living in the Bay Area.
For my previouscontract, I selected ATT based on reading the online reviews about them having absolute the fastest service. What the reviews didnt mention was that I couldnt get ATT service 10% of the time which got annoying real fast.
When it works...ATT and Sprint work great....but the 10% of the time you don't get connection, you'll wish you went with Verizon. They might be a tad slower based on the bandwidth test results online...but at least the coverage is more consistent

I will try changing modems, and see if I can get a better reception, thanks.

diazf09 said:
Usually here that from sprint users. Some seem to conform. Others like me who tried sprint realize that's not the 3G full potential.
So I rather pay less for tmobile And get awesome speeds. IMHO
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I don't mean Sprint 3G, I mean the technology limitations themselves. Even if I hop onto Verizon's network with a 3G PRL, I don't ever remember seeing anything over 2mpbs. I have plenty of friends and co-workers who have Verizon and I've never seen anything over that on any of their phones either.
Is it more of a CDMA/GSM 3G thing? Is GSM 3G faster than what you could get on a CDMA network?

hayzooos said:
I don't mean Sprint 3G, I mean the technology limitations themselves. Even if I hop onto Verizon's network with a 3G PRL, I don't ever remember seeing anything over 2mpbs. I have plenty of friends and co-workers who have Verizon and I've never seen anything over that on any of their phones either.
Is it more of a CDMA/GSM 3G thing? Is GSM 3G faster than what you could get on a CDMA network?
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Gsm carriers use a backhauled network capable of much faster speeds ....at least on speedtests
Sprint is implementing backhaul tech over the next year or so.
On 3g (hspa+) I have seen as much as 12mbps down but average 3-5 . This is on our att phones.
Funny thing is though side by side we did some comparisons last year and web pages actually loaded slower on attempt s2 vs sprint s2 .. we never really found an explanation.
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Have you considered forcing the phone to roam and having Sprint cancel your contract due to that? They shouldn't charge a ETF for that either.

88EVGAFTW said:
Have you considered forcing the phone to roam and having Sprint cancel your contract due to that? They shouldn't charge a ETF for that either.
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Great way to get out of this miserable non existing service.. In NYC I can get between 1-3 mbps, this is acceptable to me, however where I live sprint is unusable 12kb D/L up does not exist. I called to complain and their attitude was pay the 350 ETF and you can leave.....Well I'm leaving w/o paying this fee..Thank you Roam Control....

Put a post on the marketplace offering to let another user assume responsibility for the contract. I know i would have considered a cheap s3 that way earlier
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Sprint is actually getting better. With the softbank deal, Sprint controls a majority of the lte footprint. They are also getting an $8 billion cash infusion that will help them finish building out their lte footprint faster and at a higher quality. I know a few people that work for Sprint corporate. They have big plans and are actually executing those plans
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Will they be bringing service to places that do not have it (is western Washington)
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Personally i would toughen it out good things are to come for those who wait
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I'm near Baltimore and over the past 11 years have had Verizon, ATT, T-mo, and Sprint. Each provider had pros and cons. I eventually stuck with Sprint (6 years now). They are the most reliable and ever present. Not the fastest but the only time I've been without service is in the Shenandoah mountains south of us where there is no service coverage by anyone. Sprint has addressed every problem I've ever had as long as I was patient with the rep. Oh wait I was patient with the reps from every provider and they bent over backwards to help me. A Sprint rep have my wife an iPhone for $25 during her last upgrade. We presented then with a problem on our bill and they hooked us up with the phone and fixed the bill.
I don't think any service provider is going to be perfect in all situations. I myself would pick reliable over fastest speed.
Just my opinion but stick it out things are changing with Sprint.
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