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I'm about to flash the CM7 RC1 ROM and would like to know, what would be the best kernel to flash with it? I looked into the Savage Kernel and the links are dead. Does Netarchy do a universal kernel that works with all roms?
Mko979 said:
Hello everyone i"m just stopping by so I can reach my 10 post limit so that I can make a post in the development section.
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You could have atleast answered his question, or made a useful post to reach it.
Anyways... the stock kernal that comes with cm7 is actually pretty good. But I use the savaged zen kernel, it gives me amazing battery life and has the smartass and savaged zen govenors tied in.
Bamba1260 said:
You could have atleast answered his question, or made a useful post to reach it.
Anyways... the stock kernal that comes with cm7 is actually pretty good. But I use the savaged zen kernel, it gives me amazing battery life and has the smartass and savaged zen govenors tied in.
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Yea I downloaded it also. Next question. Where the hell is the google addons download link? Im going crazy here with no gmail app and market!!!
knowledge561 said:
Yea I downloaded it also. Next question. Where the hell is the google addons download link? Im going crazy here with no gmail app and market!!!
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http://goo-inside.me/google-apps/latest/
I hear there is an issue with the market today and the gmail app isn't coming down right, but you can still give it a shot.
Use the stock kernel! CM team puts a lot of work into it.
strung said:
Use the stock kernel! CM team puts a lot of work into it.
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Does the stock kernel work as good as this savage one i've been hearing about?
Stratus41298 said:
Does the stock kernel work as good as this savage one i've been hearing about?
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I am running CM7 with the stock kernel and so far its great. Its fast and the battery life is nice for me. You can go into Settings > CyanogenmodSettings>Performance and change the cpu setting to batterysaver as well.
Man.. first off.. give one of the Nightlies a shot. RC1 was ok for me, but i found that nightly #6 was AMAZING...
Now on to your question... like mentioned above, the one that comes with CM7 is pretty awesome. However, i find that i like the Savage-zen a little more. I am using v1.0 with CFS and SBC and it is WOOOW!!!
caleby20 said:
I am running CM7 with the stock kernel and so far its great. Its fast and the battery life is nice for me. You can go into Settings > CyanogenmodSettings>Performance and change the cpu setting to batterysaver as well.
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yeah and then your phone acts like it is dying everytime you try and do anything.
I much prefer the savaged.zen governor that is based off the smartass governor.
I usually get 2 - 2/12 days with the savaged.zen kernal with SetCPU set on this governor. Though i am about to try out not using SetCPU and using the built in settings from CM and see if they work the same and save me having SetCPU running 24/7. BTW i am running a 1750 MaH battery, same size as stock battery.
Yea I don't use that setting just letting the op know. Let me know how your testing goes. I'm going to try setcpu for the first time.
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bdoople said:
yeah and then your phone acts like it is dying everytime you try and do anything.
I much prefer the savaged.zen governor that is based off the smartass governor.
I usually get 2 - 2/12 days with the savaged.zen kernal with SetCPU set on this governor. Though i am about to try out not using SetCPU and using the built in settings from CM and see if they work the same and save me having SetCPU running 24/7. BTW i am running a 1750 MaH battery, same size as stock battery.
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Which cm setting would be closest to smartass? Conservative? Ondemand?
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bdoople said:
yeah and then your phone acts like it is dying everytime you try and do anything.
I much prefer the savaged.zen governor that is based off the smartass governor.
I usually get 2 - 2/12 days with the savaged.zen kernal with SetCPU set on this governor. Though i am about to try out not using SetCPU and using the built in settings from CM and see if they work the same and save me having SetCPU running 24/7. BTW i am running a 1750 MaH battery, same size as stock battery.
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Mind telling me what version of Savaged.Zen Kernel you are running to get this battery life? BFS or CFS?
Does anyone know if it is necessary to use profiles (ie. screen-off profile) if you're using the savagedzen governor?
anguyen2008 said:
Does anyone know if it is necessary to use profiles (ie. screen-off profile) if you're using the savagedzen governor?
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You can. Alot of people say it helps alot but some say setcpu isn't helping. Try using the smartass governor and the screen off profile. That way it will underclock the CPU while screen is off. It won't hurt.
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Im curious, if i need any apps like SetCPU or Cpu Tuner for CyanogenMod7.
I think somewhere i did read, that CM7 Kernel is doing all that (like undervolting/underclocking when screen is off), am i right or should i use SetCPU for better battery life?
Also if CM7 kernel is doing it, i guess its not safe to use such app as it would interfere with each other?
Thanks in advance...
I don't know the specifics but the newer CM7 builds have a built in overclocking tool more or less exactly like SetCPU. You can use that. CM7 is pretty good on battery life anyway as I can get 2 days out of it but it depends on my usage. I don't know about the kernel though but you could google it or ask thalmas.
k3lcior said:
Im curious, if i need any apps like SetCPU or Cpu Tuner for CyanogenMod7.
I think somewhere i did read, that CM7 Kernel is doing all that (like undervolting/underclocking when screen is off), am i right or should i use SetCPU for better battery life?
Also if CM7 kernel is doing it, i guess its not safe to use such app as it would interfere with each other?
Thanks in advance...
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using set cpu is actually useless in cm7, if you want good battery click on the thread that's in my sig. ppl keep telling me that its good
deleate pls
Try juice defender.
You could try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1081393 with a havs kernel.
I get up to 4 or 5 days with GingerVillain (It's based on CM7). I'm also using SetCPU, because the CM7 based CPU settings didn't work for me.
I think CM7 is good as is, but you can find OC option in Cyanogen Setting.
k3lcior said:
I think somewhere i did read, that CM7 Kernel is doing all that (like undervolting/underclocking when screen is off), am i right or should i use SetCPU for better battery life?
Also if CM7 kernel is doing it, i guess its not safe to use such app as it would interfere with each other?
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All kernels can do that... app or CM7 settings are just some GUI to do it the easier way. But you can set it via terminal too
Im good on everything else except when it comes the CPU thing. I have no idea what the numbers mean when you set the CPU for some reason. To slow the phones resources when the screen is off right? Can anyone point me to the direction of an app that can do this? What about an app that turns the data off once I turn the screens off. A free one. Thank you and sorry if Im not making sense or sounding dumb
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augoza said:
Im good on everything else except when it comes the CPU thing. I have no idea what the numbers mean when you set the CPU for some reason. To slow the phones resources when the screen is off right? Can anyone point me to the direction of an app that can do this? What about an app that turns the data off once I turn the screens off. A free one. Thank you and sorry if Im not making sense or sounding dumb
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SetCPU can modify the processor speed and allow you to set a profiles. However, you're running Tiamat so if you haven't changed anything your default governor is smartass which has a built in screen off profile of 128min/384max.
As far as turning data off, check out ultimatejuice. There is a free version that is limited in what it does, but it might be worth paying for. Also, for battery saving, check out my EVO link in my sig for some undervolting mods.
You can set the cpu governor with a program called setCPU on the marketplace. You can further control the CPU by flashing another kernel. What ROM are you running? Stock? I would try the netarchy kernel (newest version) if you're running a sense-based ROM.. I've found it has phenomenal battery life (medium use i get 15-20hrs) and I'm overclocked to 1.152ghz.
A program called tasker can also make your data connection go off and back on with the screen. I'm unsure how to set the profile but I do know thats possible. Try looking around here: http://tasker.wikidot.com You should be able to find something about it.
EDIT: Nevermind about netarchy, did not see your signature on your ROM and kernel.
ok, so ur on aosp and tiamat. try changing governer to smartass. will give you much better battery life, and you won't have to worry about 'numbers'.
btw the numbers are the cycles per second, or the speed the cpu works at. i personally underclock to 537 (998 is stock) to save a bunch of battery, and it still runs perfectly fine for me (cm7 with tiamat)
dkdude36 said:
ok, so ur on aosp and tiamat. try changing governer to smartass. will give you much better battery life, and you won't have to worry about 'numbers'.
btw the numbers are the cycles per second, or the speed the cpu works at. i personally underclock to 537 (998 is stock) to save a bunch of battery, and it still runs perfectly fine for me (cm7 with tiamat)
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Governor is smartass by default on Tiamat
-viperboy- said:
Governor is smartass by default on Tiamat
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didn't know that. thanks.
-viperboy- said:
SetCPU can modify the processor speed and allow you to set a profiles. However, you're running Tiamat so if you haven't changed anything your default governor is smartass which has a built in screen off profile of 128min/384max.
As far as turning data off, check out ultimatejuice. There is a free version that is limited in what it does, but it might be worth paying for. Also, for battery saving, check out my EVO link in my sig for some undervolting mods.
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Thanks everybody! ....Viperboy thanks for the info unfortunately I still have lots of questions haha. And yes I already been through all the viper undervoltings, 25 through INSANE! A question I have is with those vipervoltings, I assume they'll show different results depending on which kernel and rom i'm running correct? Plus im pretty much sticking with MIUI....I usually use the 25 vipervolting. Now I'm on tiamat v4.0.3. Are you saying sense I'm using tiamat its already set to smartass, so it'll be unnecessary to use the setcpu app? Also I like savZen to what's the default governor on that? Final question, turning the data off when the screen goes off using ultimatejuice unnecessary if I'm running tiamat? Sorry for the bombarding of questions thanks again
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I think you should not use SetCPU...
Just sayin'....
HipKat said:
I think you should not use SetCPU...
Just sayin'....
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Any reason?
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augoza said:
Thanks everybody! ....Viperboy thanks for the info unfortunately I still have lots of questions haha. And yes I already been through all the viper undervoltings, 25 through INSANE! A question I have is with those vipervoltings, I assume they'll show different results depending on which kernel and rom i'm running correct? Plus im pretty much sticking with MIUI....I usually use the 25 vipervolting. Now I'm on tiamat v4.0.3. Are you saying sense I'm using tiamat its already set to smartass, so it'll be unnecessary to use the setcpu app? Also I like savZen to what's the default governor on that? Final question, turning the data off when the screen goes off using ultimatejuice unnecessary if I'm running tiamat? Sorry for the bombarding of questions thanks again
MIUI 1.5.13 - Tiamat-v4.0.3
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Yes, most of the scripts lower by a certain range. So it all depends on the kernel you are running. Some of my scripts (Extreme, Insane, v2 scripts) specify all the voltages so no matter what kernel you're running, it sets the voltages to exact values. If you can go lower than -25 and you're stable, do it!
I find SetCPU unnecessary. I only have it installed because I use it for testing my mods and things, but I that's the only reason. But smartass is good enough for me, no other governors give me as good batter life. Defauly governor on SZ is their own governor (SavagedZen) it's based on interactive, I believe. There is more info on their site.
Tiamat (or any kernel for that matter) don't turn off 3G when the screen is off. You would need an app to do that.
augoza said:
Any reason?
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Uses a good bit of memory, for one. Two, because the kernels here run pretty good right out of the box.
1, it's useless, and 2, the OP seems like he isn't ready to use it.
HipKat said:
1, it's useless, and 2, the OP seems like he isn't ready to use it.
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Well, it's definitely not useless. It's a great app, I just find no need for it other than testing my mods.
-viperboy- said:
Well, it's definitely not useless. It's a great app, I just find no need for it other than testing my mods.
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That, I totally agree with, but for he average user, few know how to set it correctly and they end up with a placebo effect, or more problems.
HipKat said:
That, I totally agree with, but for he average user, few know how to set it correctly and they end up with a placebo effect, or more problems.
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I couldn't agree more. Setting up a basic screen off profile with a conservative setting is useful, otherwise it actually gets in the way of already built in kernel benefits, actually undoing them in many cases. I stopped using setcpu a while ago and my battery life has not suffered at all.
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-viperboy- said:
Yes, most of the scripts lower by a certain range. So it all depends on the kernel you are running. Some of my scripts (Extreme, Insane, v2 scripts) specify all the voltages so no matter what kernel you're running, it sets the voltages to exact values. If you can go lower than -25 and you're stable, do it!
I find SetCPU unnecessary. I only have it installed because I use it for testing my mods and things, but I that's the only reason. But smartass is good enough for me, no other governors give me as good batter life. Defauly governor on SZ is their own governor (SavagedZen) it's based on interactive, I believe. There is more info on their site.
Tiamat (or any kernel for that matter) don't turn off 3G when the screen is off. You would need an app to do that.
Uses a good bit of memory, for one. Two, because the kernels here run pretty good right out of the box.
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Thanks viper!
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I am currently using MIUI 1.7.29 Osimood with the Tiamat 1.04 kernel, and I am wondering what the best kernel is for battery life. I am also using the V6 supercharger ram script. I am running my CPU at 960mHz at the moment, using the smartass governer. I also undervolted using vipermod, 960MHz at 950mV.
My choice consists of the latest Pershoot, UmaroKernel 1.06 or Tiamat 1.04
What differences would I see between those kernels, are they noticeable for a regular user?
Sorry man, but wehre do you find the vipermod for desire z? http://vipermod.tiamat-dev.com/faq.php it's not compatibile with desire z/g2....
Uh...what's wrong with the kernel it comes with? Can OC to 1.5GHz stock ya know. Battery life is great with it too. People always want to flash something weather it be a radio or a kernel.
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Spastic909 said:
Uh...what's wrong with the kernel it comes with? Can OC to 1.5GHz stock ya know. Battery life is great with it too. People always want to flash something weather it be a radio or a kernel.
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Isn't flashing stuff and trying new things basicly the point of this whole site?
ostinq said:
Isn't flashing stuff and trying new things basicly the point of this whole site?
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damn straight,
1) pershoot is a sense kernel? (i am proabably wrong but i have never tried this kernel)
2) umaro kernel i found had issues with wifi, high underclock freq (leading to poorer battery life), but fun if you have the time to tweak voltages and fast!
3) tiamat kernel i found had issues with sleep of death/random reboots on wakeup couldnt test it past that. (setcpu was set to screen off was: conservative 125min -345 max and would still crash)
if you are up for another kernel, i am now using this kernel (streamline5)
no voltage tweaking (pretweaked) but it has good batt, speedy and stable cant ask for much
http://forum.androidspin.com/showthread.php/6555-Streamline5-Nightly-CM7-Test-Kernel-2.6.35.13
lalalandrus said:
damn straight,
1) pershoot is a sense kernel? (i am proabably wrong but i have never tried this kernel)
2) umaro kernel i found had issues with wifi, high underclock freq (leading to poorer battery life), but fun if you have the time to tweak voltages and fast!
3) tiamat kernel i found had issues with sleep of death/random reboots on wakeup couldnt test it past that. (setcpu was set to screen off was: conservative 125min -345 max and would still crash)
if you are up for another kernel, i am now using this kernel (streamline5)
no voltage tweaking (pretweaked) but it has good batt, speedy and stable cant ask for much
http://forum.androidspin.com/showthread.php/6555-Streamline5-Nightly-CM7-Test-Kernel-2.6.35.13
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Pershoot is actually for non-sense roms. The downfall people have with it is lack of governors. Some don't mind, some want variety. I've had great experiences with Pershoot's kernel and it's the baseline that all others are compared to (not to mention the foundation of almost ALL G2/DZ kernels).
Umaro's just needs to have voltage tweaks done manually but on the plus side - keeping the voltages normal (not UV) allows some people to reach higher OC speeds. It keeps the processor from bottoming out due to insufficient voltage which can easily happen when you UV. The main issue is with the Greased lightening governor - it's new and still a bit buggy.
Tiamat 1.0.4 is outstanding. I can sit all day at 2+ GHz (not literally, see: Chernobyl). I personally have an issue with the interactive governor but other than that it's my favorite kernel (Umaro may take that soon, once greased lightening is perfected).
Basically you just need to try out a few and see which you like. There is no 'best'. Most kernels will work with any ROM (Sense being the only exception).
Bumping a thread that is relevant to my interests.
It's about time for me to jump ship from an outdated CM ROM and try something new like a MIUI ROM.
With that said, I'd like to read more opinions & experiences from people using the various Kernels AND how the latest radio (the one released today) is working for them. I'm just trying to get the optimal experience here
Speaking of MIUI would anyone mind telling me some differences between OsiMood's ROM compared to the official MIUI-US ROM (or even DarkSpadez ROM)?
Thanks a ton guys!
I downloaded the official rom . . .then ignored it downloaded osimood and iv been using it since. Osimood is a lighter rom, which is always a good thing, unwanted languages etc are removed for a smaller faster rom. Also he preinstalls tweaks like an adblocker and extended settings mod.
Kernal wise iv been looking for the same info as you but couldn't find it. So I eneded up trying them all:
- Eugenes streamline5 is a nice kernal, preundervolted. Only probly is its not being updated so will become redundant.
-Tiamats kernal allows over clock to 2ghz and seems to support higher overclocks stably where other kernals can't. Except battery life has decreased with recent kernals
-Umarokernal this is the kernal iv come back to twice and am still on. It allows overclock to 1.9ghz and is kept updated by umaro. Performance per frequency seems as good if not better than most and osimoods miui runs smooth with this kernal on 800ghz with scarey governer (which saves battery) Another plus for me with this kernal is the scarey governer which for me definatly provides the best performance per battery ratio.
I'm currently running MIUI 1.8.5 with Eugene-Streamline 5 Kernel with the latest radio update Vision_Radio_12.57.60.25_26.10.04.12.
SetCPU with Governor ondemand provides me with better usage, power and responsive time then Smartass or Interactive.
OC to 1.2ghz
Battery life, about 30hrs with the regular 1350mah.
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fluxgfx said:
I'm currently running MIUI 1.8.5 with Eugene-Streamline 5 Kernel with the latest radio update Vision_Radio_12.57.60.25_26.10.04.12.
SetCPU with Governor ondemand provides me with better usage, power and responsive time then Smartass or Interactive.
OC to 1.2ghz
Battery life, about 30hrs with the regular 1350mah.
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i just got 40 hours with similar setup but i use virtuous o/c daemon instead of setcpu
big fan of streamline5 and hope that it will get updated eventually
How do you get the virtuos o/c daemon?
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How do you get the virtuos o/c daemon?
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Its basically like an automatic setcpu (which can't be changed on the fly) built into the rom, its in virtuous unity roms
What sleep profiles are you guys usein. I seem to have rebooting issues with any kernel I try unless I go to a sense rom. I've tried the vipermod now to see how it goes
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But how do you get the virtuos O/C daemon to work on MIUI?
You can download it threw rom manager. Even with that kernel I get reboot issues. I assume its cause system ram isn't being cleard fast enough. I'm gonna try 100mv increase to see if there's a difference.
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Would it be pointless to use SetCPU for things like profiles or under clocking when screen is off to increases battery life (if that makes sense) while using CM7.1 Stable with the latest Incredikernel or does the kernel have the smartass thing that does this for me?
Thanks in advance
.Grizz. said:
Would it be pointless to use SetCPU for things like profiles or under clocking when screen is off to increases battery life (if that makes sense) while using CM7.1 Stable with the latest Incredikernel or does the kernel have the smartass thing that does this for me?
Thanks in advance
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If you're using smartass, then it will manage things when screen is off. Any other governor that you'd use you could use SetCPU to manage screen off profiles.