Why did Samsung do this... Its like any other 4.3" screen with those buttons on the bottom.. Can you hide these buttons all together fir certain apps to take some advantage of that gorgeous screen? Namely the browser?
just videos it auto hides on stock rom.
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It would be awesome if you could toggle the virtual keys, that's what I thought they were intended for, not just to watch some damn videos. Pretty disappointed in that aspect as well.
To standardize the button layout on Android devices (home, search, back, menu)
@wonshikee: You can always make a rooted app / mod to do that. Androids open source.
Do games hide the buttons or are they still there? Sounds like Samsung didn't think this through..
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Do games hide the buttons or are they still there? Sounds like Samsung didn't think this through..
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It was Google's idea. Samsung just made the device with the hardware asked by Google. This is how they do all Nexus devices.
You're acting like this is a new concept. It isn't. It was on honeycomb tablets and no one seemed to mind it.
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Why did Samsung do this... Its like any other 4.3" screen with those buttons on the bottom.. Can you hide these buttons all together fir certain apps to take some advantage of that gorgeous screen? Namely the browser?
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Sometimes I wonder if anybody researches at all before buying this phone...
Apps have to be specifically designed to go to full screen mode to hide the buttons, with the restriction that ANY user interaction brings the buttons back to the visible state. Hence, games or the browser would not be able to effectively hide the buttons.
Think of it this way: say you're playing a game, and it locks up. If there's no home button, you're forced to reboot.
You can enable full screen browser. Games do not. get rid of the buttons.
Instead of saying why ruin the screen with nav buttons.. You should be saying why ruin the screen by using a pentile submatrix .
zetsumeikuro said:
Instead of saying why ruin the screen with nav buttons.. You should be saying why ruin the screen by using a pentile submatrix .
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From what I read, Samsung isn't currently capable of creating a 4.65" 720P Super AMOLED plus display. Technology simply isn't there so they had to resort to a 720P super AMOLED pentile submatrix display.
Bobb_o said:
You can enable full screen browser. Games do not. get rid of the buttons.
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The full screen brower mode simply hides the status bar (and possibly minimizes the soft buttons) but it does not hide them entirely.
On screen buttons offer the benefit of when you rotate the screen, the buttons rotate with you. They are always on the bottom and in the same order.
Return it. Done. No more drama.
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It was Google's idea. Samsung just made the device with the hardware asked by Google. This is how they do all Nexus devices.
You're acting like this is a new concept. It isn't. It was on honeycomb tablets and no one seemed to mind it.
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Except tablet screens are massive so nothing is really lost, the difference between a 4.3" and 4.65" is much bigger.
The display on this phone rocks and I love the on screen buttons. Its nice to have consistency in the feel of the interactions with the UI including the "buttons".
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the buttons dont bother me , but it is annoying when they turn into the three little dots. Sometimes I forget which buttons where esp. in landscape and 1 click and you hit home instead of back. They should have made it a 2 step process. Push any1 of the dots and the buttons appear then you push a button to go where you want- Or at least make it a setting to be like this
I personally thought it would suck but fortunately i haven't had problems with it. I do wonder who and/or what will come up with some kind of toggle for it.
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I personally thought it would suck but fortunately i haven't had problems with it. I do wonder who and/or what will come up with some kind of toggle for it.
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I also thought it would suck and was gutted when Google announced it, but it has helped me realize why Google dominate they certainly "know their ****" ... the buttons look cool and I love the developer options that it leaves open, eg the great work that paul has already started
DPI changer....the first thing I'm going to do on this badboy
Hmmm...I like the GN button design!
I guess go buy a GS2 and wait for ICS...just saying.
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Just wondering for those of you who have the device already, have you guys found some neat features/tricks using 4.0 that haven't been documented or heavily advertised?
I would love to make a list of these features for other users to explore...
Lets get this started
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Reserved........
I know it's documented,but it was still a surprise to me - you can now finally delete apps straight from the app drawer, by dragging them just as if you were going to place them on the desktop,but then putting them in the recycle bin on the top.
No affiliation with apple. Or siri.
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Nobody's talking about the search app. It's way better than the one in Gingerbread. Much easier to find stuff in your phone : music, app, sms, docs, etc. The old one was returning web search suggestion in 90% of the result... useless.
Search in browser let's you edit suggestion if you want to add something to it. But we lost popular web site suggestion
Just read it on Pocketnow but you can make folders in the favourites bar. Apologies if obvious.
When in the stock browser and you change orientation, tap the screen to make it rotate.
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I know it's documented,but it was still a surprise to me - you can now finally delete apps straight from the app drawer, by dragging them just as if you were going to place them on the desktop,but then putting them in the recycle bin on the top.
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You can do that on stock fascinate.
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You can do that on stock fascinate.
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which runs TouchWiz, so it's not stock Android
Rotate the phone to the right whilst in any stock app (so the speaker grill and front camera are on the right). Notice that the back, home and task switch buttons have moved to the top of the screen so that they stay on the right.
When using an ics app hold down on an icon in the action bar to get a description of what it does
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Not heavily advertised, but it should be:
The quick control in the browser. Almost the same as on honeycomb. Activate it in the labs settings of the browser. Love it!
appelflap said:
Not heavily advertised, but it should be:
The quick control in the browser. Almost the same as on honeycomb. Activate it in the labs settings of the browser. Love it!
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NICE find! Thanks!
This is known about, however you said undocumented and I haven't a single document for the Nexus/ICS apart from on one which came with the phone,telling me how to fix the battery.
Hold the volume down and power key, and you take a screen capture. Which is very handy on occasions
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If you tap the volume button which makes the volume bar appear, you can then press the icon to the left of the volume bar and it toggles between ring and vibrate.
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In settings/about phone. Tap repeatedly on the android version number (4.0...) then a little android appears. Keep ur finger on it and it grows into a screen animation.
If u didn't know about this,I guess u r now thinking this is a joke. Or is it?
Need someone to test; try swiping the web pages up/down using 2 fingers
, is it a feature or a glitch?
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Need someone to test; try swiping the web pages up/down using 2 fingers
, is it a feature or a glitch?
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what's supposed to happen?
You can use the front facing camera to record in 720p hd
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what's supposed to happen?
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I thought it scrolled page by page. try by flicking with 2 fingers.
Sorry in advance if this is in the wrong section.
I'm looking to buy the Galaxy Nexus but I truly hate the idea of a softkey bar as I feel there is little point to having such a beautiful screen only to remove some of it with a black bar.
Is there a way to remove them while staying on the stock rom? I already bought HoneyBar for Honeycomb on the 10.1/7+ but the dev appears to have given up on removing the softkey bar for ICS. I know that custom roms on the Galaxy Nexus have the option but I would appreciate any word on this. My only option aside from the Galaxy Nexus is...nothing as no other Verizon 4G LTE phone clicked with me.
I don't hate softkeys however. Button Savior is hands down my favorite app.
Without them there'd be no way of closing/opening/changing apps so they're kinda here to stay
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Without them there'd be no way of closing/opening/changing apps so they're kinda here to stay
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Of course
Half the time I forget they are part of the screen, they are so much better than the crappy Nexus One buttons
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Without them there'd be no way of closing/opening/changing apps so they're kinda here to stay
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Not true! Button savior can replace the soft keys.
z06mike said:
Not true! Button savior can replace the soft keys.
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Fyi: Also LMT is capable of replacing the soft keys and is working on GSN. Gestures -> action:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1330150
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Custom roms don't have an option to remove the softkeys.
Thank you for the link being posted so quickly. I really appreciate it.
I'm going to go read the GummyNex thread more thoroughly to understand if its softkey option is what I wanted.
Thank you guys again.
In my opinion the soft keys are not a waste of screen real estate because they are only there when having the entire screen is pointless anyway. They go away when watching YouTube, Netflix, videos, looking at images, etc. So the entire screen gets utilized when it really counts.
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Accord281 said:
In my opinion the soft keys are not a waste of screen real estate because they are only there when having the entire screen is pointless anyway. They go away when watching YouTube, Netflix, videos, looking at images, etc. So the entire screen gets utilized when it really counts.
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I use ADW and hide my notification bar(swipe down to open) and my dock (swipe up to open). The only thing left on my homescreen to hide are the softkeys. I just want them hidden on my homescreen.
Accord281 said:
In my opinion the soft keys are not a waste of screen real estate because they are only there when having the entire screen is pointless anyway. They go away when watching YouTube, Netflix, videos, looking at images, etc. So the entire screen gets utilized when it really counts.
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Yes but what about web browsing, remote desktop to name a couple? shame the soft keys stop you from using the whole screen
It'll happen. I don't think the issue here is removing them completely but hiding them on command like in Honeycomb.
It comes in handy for playing games like emulators and such. Certain apps can hide the bar so it is possible to issue that same command on demand.
I wouldn't hold up a purchase over something so trivial. It WILL happen but Google patched the trick in Honeycomb.
I think an auto hide would be cool then use a gesture to restore them or just use gestures as navigation. Could get ugly in certain apps though.
Maybe have a CM9 toggle...
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Having a button in the notification bar to hide the buttons would be cool. But seriously must devs will update they're apps to utilize this feature as it goes.
Mx video did recently
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I have been using ics for a month. The design is generally great. but there is just one thing that piss me off. ....the soft button. They just take up too mich space!
i dont know if it is possible. Can you make the soft buttons stay on the screen buttakeup no space? i tried lmt launcher. its quite good, butits tired to hold the screenand slide to the keys that we are supposed to be able to press directly. I tried the key savior as well. the little arrow is indeed quite good! can some developer make "3little arrows that stay on the screen" to replace the soft buttons on ics?
i have my buttons transparent so it looks full screen but they are still there.
Under "GALAXY NEXUS THEMES & APPS" there is a thread about removing then and only having them pop up upon a certain gesture our action allowing you to have the full 720x1280 screen.
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how? thx... thats good!
RogerPodacter said:
i have my buttons transparent so it looks full screen but they are still there.
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thats great... can u tell me how?
Smokeey said:
Under "GALAXY NEXUS THEMES & APPS" there is a thread about removing then and only having them pop up upon a certain gesture our action allowing you to have the full 720x1280 screen.
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the gesture is wt i dun like...
I would love to see the buttons incorporated into the top bar like CM7 for the Kindle Fire. This way your buttons are always there and take up no space at all. No swiping or gestures needed...
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thats great... can u tell me how?
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Search "transparent" in themes section. I got it from that thread.
I can't believe Google was so stupid as to design ON-SCREEN buttons and not foresee screen burn-in issues.
Does anyone have any ideas on how we can fix Google's mistake?
If only there was a way to keep the Navigation Menu always hidden and then only make it appear when we need to use it...sort of like how you can hide the Windows Start bar and when you move your mouse, it animates into view on top of everything else.
Maybe, we can use the proximity sensor to show or hide the Navigation Menu? Like, when you swipe your hand over the sensor, it shows or hides it. Or, maybe make it shake activated? Like just shake your phone and the Navigation Menu appears/disappears. If it's shake activated, then we should make it so we can adjust the shake sensitivity because not everyone shakes the same.
Does anyone have any other ideas on how to solve this? Please post them!
I hope Google tracks this thread and patents and uses our ideas. Or else, give us tactile or capacitive buttons in the next Nexus!
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If only there was a way to keep the Navigation Menu always hidden and then only make it appear when we need to use it...sort of like how you can hide the Windows Start bar and when you move your mouse, it animates into view on top of everything else.
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I'm sure there is a ROM or two that does this. I know one for the N7 has that feature... I think it was Glazed. Maybe their GNex ROM has it also.
I haven't had any screen burn-in issues in 8 months of owning the phone so unfortunately I can't help there. good luck.
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I can't believe Google was so stupid as to design ON-SCREEN buttons and not foresee screen burn-in issues.
Does anyone have any ideas on how we can fix Google's mistake?
If only there was a way to keep the Navigation Menu always hidden and then only make it appear when we need to use it...sort of like how you can hide the Windows Start bar and when you move your mouse, it animates into view on top of everything else.
Maybe, we can use the proximity sensor to show or hide the Navigation Menu? Like, when you swipe your hand over the sensor, it shows or hides it. Or, maybe make it shake activated? Like just shake your phone and the Navigation Menu appears/disappears. If it's shake activated, then we should make it so we can adjust the shake sensitivity because not everyone shakes the same.
Does anyone have any other ideas on how to solve this? Please post them!
I hope Google tracks this thread and patents and uses our ideas. Or else, give us tactile or capacitive buttons in the next Nexus!
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Like 98% of the issues around here I've never had this problem. Sometimes I think I'm the only person with a problem free Nexus. Nevertheless, jaseglenn4 has a thread discussing this. You'll find some info there, good luck:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1606237
I have screen retention with my keyboard and that's about it.
Sometimes it's fairly noticeable, sometimes it's not, not bothering me enough to get it replaced.
I just changed my habits so that I rotate the screen 90° to the right whenever I use landscape (web browsing and lots of other things) so as to switch the menu to the opposite side. I figure with that usage pattern it'll take twice as long to notice any burn in.
With low brightness settings in most cases I figure this'll be longer than I expect to keep the phone anyway.
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I heard a myth that if you had screen burn in issue you can reduce it by setting a fullscreen white image, crank it up to max brightness and leave it there for 1-2 hours.. it's not gone but it'll be reduced..
Can someone confirm this?
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Yes some roms have the expandable desktop option to make it full screen. I see some people use that and LMT so they don't have to use nav bar instead just gestures to move around phone
Don't ever buy a phone with an amoled display again. *solved*
good day.
It's not going to burn in. Your screen would have to be on for days and days consecutively, nonstop, with the keys never hiding or changing position. And even then with the stock color of the keys it's even less likely.
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Has anyone got burned in images of the buttons on their phone right now? Or is this a "this might happen" question? Have been using mine for a good few months now and there is no sign of this issue!
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I have screen retention with my keyboard and that's about it.
Sometimes it's fairly noticeable, sometimes it's not, not bothering me enough to get it replaced.
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x2, and even then it's only when I have a gray background
Xadin said:
Has anyone got burned in images of the buttons on their phone right now? Or is this a "this might happen" question? Have been using mine for a good few months now and there is no sign of this issue!
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I think the reason Google made the virtual keys grey is for this reason solely. It's not full white so there shouldn't be able burn-in issues.
I commonly see image-retention (keyboard shadows etc.) but not burn-in. I highly doubt anyone has the latter.
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I think the reason Google made the virtual keys grey is for this reason solely. It's not full white so there shouldn't be able burn-in issues.
I commonly see image-retention (keyboard shadows etc.) but not burn-in. I highly doubt anyone has the latter.
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Soooo, this is a non-issue. Good to know!
You have any idea how long it takes for burn in to occurred? Last time I try, it took a week or two, with the screen on 24/7 to get a little burn in on my laptop LCD display. It went away after I turn off the screen for a night.
For the nexus to have a burn-in onscreen button happened? Good luck with that.
Neither mine or my gf's have this issue. Now my nexus 7....it has it bad....
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I think the reason Google made the virtual keys grey is for this reason solely. It's not full white so there shouldn't be able burn-in issues.
I commonly see image-retention (keyboard shadows etc.) but not burn-in. I highly doubt anyone has the latter.
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What's the difference between image-retention and burn-in?
The issue I'm seeing is that when the screen is white or a light color, I can see where the Navigation Menu used to be (when I hide it).
I hide top and bottom bar so I avoid any burn in.
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You have any idea how long it takes for burn in to occurred? Last time I try, it took a week or two, with the screen on 24/7 to get a little burn in on my laptop LCD display. It went away after I turn off the screen for a night.
For the nexus to have a burn-in onscreen button happened? Good luck with that.
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burn in is a lot easier on amoled displays....
your comparison makes no sense
I have seen a little retention but nothing i would worry about. Usually goes away after a few seconds.
Personally i love the on screen nav buttons.
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I hide top and bottom bar so I avoid any burn in.
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How do you hide the nav bar?
... of apps ignoring the menu key.
I've always preferred the menu - home - back layout Samsung has stuck with. It just feels more natural to me... Now though I'm starting to think the new Android design guidelines are going to pose a big usability problem.
Especially on big phones like the GS3, having to reach to the top of the phone to get at common options is an annoyance at best. Mint is one of the latest apps to implement the new design guidelines that renders the menu button useless.
I hope the development community can come up with a workaround - if they haven't already. Anyone know of efforts to remap or otherwise keep the menu button useful?
Its not really the dev community that controls the design guidelines.. as you know google updates them with each iteration of Android. The problem here is, starting from the Galaxy Nexus, none of Google's phones have come with a menu button. Google believes this is better (for some reason) and so all the design guidelines are trending towards making the menu button obsolete.
Samsung on the other hand is slowly becoming the only manufacturer to persist with the menu button.
From a development perspective, its easy enough to support devices with/without a menu button, with the same piece of code. I feel the main reason big Android apps are moving to the Holo bar menu button is for uniformity like in iOS (which is what Google wants in the first place)
There are roms that let you easily re-assign the menu button. For example, I have menu bound to recent apps (android standard is back, home, recent apps) with long press recent apps as menu for those few cases where apps still use the menu button.
As much as you may like the menu button it is more than on its way out at this point. Despite what samsung has been building their phones with.
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50% of the reason I like a physical home button is because for me, it's easier to power up the phone...and more natural, less effort etc. I also go into standby by an upward gesture on my homescreen so on/off is very quick and handy.
The other half is that I have more screen real estate.
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Its not really the dev community that controls the design guidelines.. as you know google updates them with each iteration of Android. The problem here is, starting from the Galaxy Nexus, none of Google's phones have come with a menu button. Google believes this is better (for some reason) and so all the design guidelines are trending towards making the menu button obsolete.
Samsung on the other hand is slowly becoming the only manufacturer to persist with the menu button.
From a development perspective, its easy enough to support devices with/without a menu button, with the same piece of code. I feel the main reason big Android apps are moving to the Holo bar menu button is for uniformity like in iOS (which is what Google wants in the first place)
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Uniformity is huge, have you seen that picture with the buttons of around 10 android popular phones in which none of them have the same buttons/order.
Also, as an ex-galaxy nexus user, I must say that on-screen buttons are FAR better than what we have. The only down side is lost screen space in most apps (some stuff does go full screen). But the customizability of the software buttons is SO NICE. you can change the size of the bar, the colour, what buttons are there, what the icons are. The slide for google now is much more intuitive that long pressing menu. XDA devs have even added the ability to add what ever you want to the google now slide up gesture. (including widgets).
The software bar is simply a modder's wet dream
Sure uniformity is cool, but what's more uniform than a menu key that's just there all the time? I don't even have to think about it; I want settings/options, I press the menu key. This has honestly been one of my favorite design elements of Android. I hate that this is being phased out.
Ah well, nothing I can do about it.
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50% of the reason I like a physical home button is because for me, it's easier to power up the phone...and more natural, less effort etc. I also go into standby by an upward gesture on my homescreen so on/off is very quick and handy.
The other half is that I have more screen real estate.
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How do you have it set up to sleep with a screen gesture?
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How do you have it set up to sleep with a screen gesture?
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It's 2 parts...but super simple and turbo quick!
I use Go Launcher EX. Many of the custom launchers have Gesture ability. (unlike stock TouchWiz) There are 2 types of gestures in GLex. The one I use is an upward gesture anywhere on any home screen. (you could choose an icon in the dock as well) and it's not the Gesture Pad feature. For me, this works well as I never find myself swiping upwards on the home screen except to initiate SCREEN OFF....although I have requested them to add a 2 finger swipe for extra control.
The 2nd part is an app called "screen off and lock" which I have been using for years. I tell GLex to execute SOAL with an upward gesture on the home screen. Works flawlessly. (GLex has it's own plugin for screen off...but it is laggy)
SOAL also has CRT similar fx and other options. But I just use the clean screen off effect and it's INSTANT. I literally can turn on my S3 with my physical home button, swipe to unlock. then swipe up to lock/screen off in under a second...and keep repeating...no lag. (that's not what I use it for per-say...but just to show that it is fast...all with my thumb in a close proximity area.)
Just got it all set up and I'm loving it so far. Thanks a lot
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Just got it all set up and I'm loving it so far. Thanks a lot
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Right on, glad you tried it out.
To me, little things like this make the experience so much better.
Are you using GLex?
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Right on, glad you tried it out.
To me, little things like this make the experience so much better.
Are you using GLex?
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No I have an s3, but I flashed a fix that changed my build.prop to gnex so I can run Google wallet.
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No I have an s3, but I flashed a fix that changed my build.prop to gnex so I can run Google wallet.
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Ha Ha...no...actually I meant Go Launcher EX? (GLex)
What launcher do you use to perform the swipe?
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Ha Ha...no...actually I meant Go Launcher EX? (GLex)
What launcher do you use to perform the swipe?
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Haha oh I thought you made a typo. I'm using apex launcher.
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radeon_x said:
... of apps ignoring the menu key.
I've always preferred the menu - home - back layout Samsung has stuck with. It just feels more natural to me... Now though I'm starting to think the new Android design guidelines are going to pose a big usability problem.
Especially on big phones like the GS3, having to reach to the top of the phone to get at common options is an annoyance at best. Mint is one of the latest apps to implement the new design guidelines that renders the menu button useless.
I hope the development community can come up with a workaround - if they haven't already. Anyone know of efforts to remap or otherwise keep the menu button useful?
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Video about some of my likes and dislikes about the GS3 overall its the best smartphone I have ever owned .
That's one thing that annoys me about the Android OS not being unified... some apps will ignore the menu, some wont.