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I sold my HD2 on Thursday and let me say first off that I have no regrets whatsoever: I absolutely love this phone. Before I sold the HD2 I played some music tracks on both devices through the loudspeaker and headphones jack and noticed a HUGE differential in volume.....I thought the HD2 speaker was pretty tinny but it was at least audible; the Desire speaker volume is incredibly underpowered...being practically inaudible in a moderately noisy environment. This problem seems to extend even as far as the headphones socket since some of the songs I was unable to play at full volume on the HD2 for fear of bursting my eardrums are simply not loud enough for me on the Desire.
Am I the only person to think the volume levels are too low? Is there perhaps a way to increase the pre amp levels. It's as quiet as the first generation iPhone which was REALLY BAD.
Any thoughts from anyone here?
Hi there - I've been searching online to see if anyone else has been having this problem and came across your post.
Had my Desire for a week now, and I love it. But the volume via headphones is WAY too low. Stupidly too low. I can't hear it on the tube at all, for example.
I was looking forward to using it - and Spotify, in partcular - as a replacement for my aging iPod. But there's just no way.
I can't believe this is common to every phone, as surely there would be more people complaining about it. Are there different firmware versions knocking about? It's got me pretty frustrated.
Ok this is not nice, speaker volume is very important to me. This is the first time I see somebody be this negative about it though...
Damn..
Further, you coming from the HD2, any more thoughts you want to share about the switch?
How is the 4.3 inch to 3.7 inch 'jump'?
Kind regards
Screen size is not a problem for me, colours are beautiful on the Desire and the screen seems note responsive. I tried using the HD2 for a day after getting the Desire and hated it bycomparison! Only massive annoyance though is that it is nowhere near as loud.
I suspect that people are still in their honeymoon period with the phone and that complaints will start to surface about the speaker volume in time. As far as I can recall all my other Android devices were a lot louder than this.
Don't have the device yet but in a video review the guy said the speaker was pretty loud, so it's probably only a software problem
chipshop said:
Had my Desire for a week now, and I love it. But the volume via headphones is WAY too low. Stupidly too low. I can't hear it on the tube at all, for example..
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Juste buy in-ear headphones ! your ear will thanks you, pushing the volume to 100db because the tube is masking noise : not a good idea believe me.
I too, coming from an iPhone, find the headphone volume painfully low.
I use an under speaker pillow to listen to podcasts without disturbing the wife, and on the iPhone she'd sometimes complain that she could hear it. Now with the Desire I find that sometimes I can't hear it and that's at full volume.
I know this is probably obvious but I take it you have gone through. Audio settings
And maxed the volume? And checked any volume controls on headphones? If both set to max
And still not loud then the handset is faulty so get it replaced
Now!!
Mine set to max would be at ear bleeding levels!!
The speaker quality isn't great, but considering I don't use them that much it is good enough for me.
Am a little surprised with the headphone issues, considering that I have my volume set just under halfway and it is more than loud enough for me.
I am using my Sennheiser earphones, but the volume is fine with the supplied HTC ones too.
what kind of bit-rates are you using for music? ... 128? or more, ... as the quality effects the loudness somehow I believe.
try experimenting with different bit rates and see how that goes
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Screen size is not a problem for me, colours are beautiful on the Desire and the screen seems note responsive. I tried using the HD2 for a day after getting the Desire and hated it bycomparison! Only massive annoyance though is that it is nowhere near as loud.
I suspect that people are still in their honeymoon period with the phone and that complaints will start to surface about the speaker volume in time. As far as I can recall all my other Android devices were a lot louder than this.
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I think this might be due to new UE regulations about maximum volume in mobile devices, though im not 100% sure if its already in the system.
However Im pretty sure that in couple days/weeks there will be some hacks/apps/ to change that
So have I got a faulty phone?
Or are people just overly forgiving??
Everything is set to max. I've also noticed that the Mic quality in videos is also shockingly poor in terms of volume. I wonder if all of these functions are shared by the same chipset.
leoni, I'm having just the same problem. I think it must be a problem with some of these phones. I can't believe that people are just being overly forgiving.
I'm not looking to push the volume up too high, but if I can't hear it when there's a little background noise going on, then that's a serious design flaw.
I'd like to do a comparison with another Desire at some point, hopefully I'll bump into someone using one soon...
Just to answer some of the above questions/suggestions:-
I'm using MP3s in 256k bit rate format. All volume controls are set to max and there is no volume control on the headphones I am using.
I'm sending mine back. I'm due an upgrade on Monday anyway so I'll test one in the shop and see if It's the same. The headphone volume is the main issue for me; its just too low.
I also think that the volume is way too low. Just out of curiosity, could this be a Rom issue? I'm using the stock TMO Rom. To the people who think it's loud enough, which Rom are you on?
My biggest problem is with the volume through the headphones....speaker volume I can live with, though it is crap and tinny
I think this must be an issue on your phone or you expect it to be crazy loud. I swapped out my ipod for this today on a good set of headphones (AKG KE518LE's) and the volume levels seem identical. As for the speaker, i find mine is a tad on the loud side to be honest. I find myself having to knock it dont a few notches on the volume.
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I think this must be an issue on your phone or you expect it to be crazy loud. I swapped out my ipod for this today on a good set of headphones (AKG KE518LE's) and the volume levels seem identical. As for the speaker, i find mine is a tad on the loud side to be honest. I find myself having to knock it dont a few notches on the volume.
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are you on TMO ROM?
Loud speaker isn't audible above the sound of my shower, which is a real shame as coming from a n95 8gb the loud speaker was great. Oh well. I'm a forgiving type!
I have found music volume to be pretty low but I'm fairly convinced it is a software/Rom issue because the volume in some applications is loud! Doesn't made much sense. Running T-mob here.
I remember the days with my touch. All the hacks and toys I had with it. At the time the phone was awesome, my iPhone killer
One thing that sucked was the speaker.. for one including this phone I can never understand how a video device has the speaker In the rear, but whatever with this phone it works, he touch not so much, it was pretty bad, so I use to hack it so it would amplify the speaker, so much that I busted it 3 times had had to get 3 new phones...
I am not asking about the loudness with this phone, even though I see some apps that increase the volume, I don't need it, but what I'm asking is.... since my touch I am always scared when a video or game plays loud. I am always thinking that the speaker is going to blow... does this speaker hold up? I am more scared about the alarm (stock) as it can go off sometimes for 10 minutes before I wake up LOL.....
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fastfed said:
I remember the days with my touch. All the hacks and toys I had with it. At the time the phone was awesome, my iPhone killer
One thing that sucked was the speaker.. for one including this phone I can never understand how a video device has the speaker In the rear, but whatever with this phone it works, he touch not so much, it was pretty bad, so I use to hack it so it would amplify the speaker, so much that I busted it 3 times had had to get 3 new phones...
I am not asking about the loudness with this phone, even though I see some apps that increase the volume, I don't need it, but what I'm asking is.... since my touch I am always scared when a video or game plays loud. I am always thinking that the speaker is going to blow... does this speaker hold up? I am more scared about the alarm (stock) as it can go off sometimes for 10 minutes before I wake up LOL.....
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I really don't think you'll ever find what you're looking for.
1) When your alarm goes off, get up and turn it off
2) If you're concerned about loud audio killing the speaker, plug in some headphones.
I may be coming across as an ass but I'm seriously not trying to be. You modded and destryed 3 phones before, just accept that you need to change your habits or pay the price for destroying things before their time.
I've never had an issue with the speaker but, except for the alarm, I really don't use it much.
I plug in some pc speakers when im playin music or videos, there are few that dont need batteries or wall plug.
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I really don't think you'll ever find what you're looking for.
1) When your alarm goes off, get up and turn it off
2) If you're concerned about loud audio killing the speaker, plug in some headphones.
I may be coming across as an ass but I'm seriously not trying to be. You modded and destryed 3 phones before, just accept that you need to change your habits or pay the price for destroying things before their time.
I've never had an issue with the speaker but, except for the alarm, I really don't use it much.
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Maybe you didn't understand my post.. I was writing it from my phone and it was my first time..
I blew 3 phone speakers before.. The phone as I said WAS NOT THE EVO, it was the TOUCH..
The speaker on THAT phone sucked..
Again.. With that phone (the Touch) it was very common for the speaker to go bad.
So again, do you hear(no pun) a lot of people breaking their speaker on the EVO?
How is the speaker on the EVO?
You say you plug headphones in while playing a video, is that because youre afraid of blowing the speaker?
I'll give you my non-professional opinion. It's tinny (no that's not a typo). No bass. I could easily see it getting blown if you pump bass heavy songs especiallyif you're using an EQ. That being said, I have used it for music and found it plenty loud
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I've used gentle alarm since the phone's release week and have mp3s playing at 80% system volume as my alarms. So far my speaker has had no issues whatsoever. Like wuclan48 says you're probably gonna be ok if you don't use it extensively with heavy bass or at super high volumes.
As for alarms going off for 10 minutes, my mp3 playlist plays at 7, 715, 730 for 10 minutes each assuming i don't turn them off, which i normally don't cuz i'm a lazy bastard that likes to sleep in.
Don't intentionally push the speaker and you will most likely be fine.
Well I returned my phone with a full refund.
The volume was so low on my GNex I could hardly hear YouTube videos/Music /Notifications so I returned it. Is this the same on all GNex? (Volume Bug was another reason for returning)
Long story short I regret returning it cause I loved ICS but the volume problems were enough to drive me crazy.
So my question - Is the volume low on your Gnex's ? I don't want to pick one up again if the volume truly is that low compared to other phones.
recklesslife85 said:
Well I returned my phone with a full refund.
The volume was so low on my GNex I could hardly hear YouTube videos/Music /Notifications so I returned it. Is this the same on all GNex? (Volume Bug was another reason for returning)
Long story short I regret returning it cause I loved ICS but the volume problems were enough to drive me crazy.
So my question - Is the volume low on your Gnex's ? I don't want to pick one up again if the volume truly is that low compared to other phones.
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forget about GNexus.
have yourself actually come across any devices that have a speaker that is loud enough for you under crowd environment? (even my xoom doesn't provide volume loud enough). plus you have to check if the audio of that music/video is originally softer or louder. certain audio/video are slightly softer by default. hence its really hard to measure.
i find the GNexus is loud enough under quiet environment.
Yeah, it is a bit low compared to other phones. If that's a deal-breaker then that's unfortunate. Maybe along the line someone will make a custom kernel/rom that will boost the volume though so you should keep an eye out.
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qwerp_ said:
forget about GNexus.
have yourself actually come across any devices that have a speaker that is loud enough for you under crowd environment? (even my xoom doesn't provide volume loud enough). plus you have to check if the audio of that music/video is originally softer or louder. certain audio/video are slightly softer by default. hence its really hard to measure.
i find the GNexus is loud enough under quiet environment.
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Chrono_Tata said:
Yeah, it is a bit low compared to other phones. If that's a deal-breaker then that's unfortunate. Maybe along the line someone will make a custom kernel/rom that will boost the volume though so you should keep an eye out.
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Thanks for the replies guys. Well I currently have an iPhone 4S which is perfect sound wise and so is my Dell Venue Pro. I can hear them both easy without a problem but I couldn't hear my Gnex when I was in the house talking to family. I may have had a faulty phone? Was well quiet. Considering the Galaxy Note right now but really want the Gnex again.
It is more quiet than my previous HTC Desire. But I love that it is not too loud that you are close to hearing the speakers cracking. I am not afraid to put the device in full volume anymore.
I found it way too low (as in I was close to returning it) but use Volume+ to boost it up to very respectable levels without distortion. Was happy with that then had Volume+ crash a couple of times so hoping for a proper patch (official or community) at some point.
Can't find the thread anymore, but some users with the same problem reported good results using Volume+. Think it was mainly the speaker volume when ringing that was an issue for him/her/them.
Might be worth a shot!
recklesslife85 said:
Thanks for the replies guys. Well I currently have an iPhone 4S which is perfect sound wise and so is my Dell Venue Pro. I can hear them both easy without a problem but I couldn't hear my Gnex when I was in the house talking to family. I may have had a faulty phone? Was well quiet. Considering the Galaxy Note right now but really want the Gnex again.
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do bear in mind that the iphone and dell venue both have side loaded speakers. and primarily all new android phones has their speaker at the back of the phones. ny default, the audio is blasted away from you (if you are watching youtube). you need some sort of deflector to deflect the audio back to the front to make it louder.
for instant, if you are listening to music, and have the phone facing backward, i don't think you will have any big issues.
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do bear in mind that the iphone and dell venue both have side loaded speakers. and primarily all new android phones has their speaker at the back of the phones. ny default, the audio is blasted away from you (if you are watching youtube). you need some sort of deflector to deflect the audio back to the front to make it louder.
for instant, if you are listening to music, and have the phone facing backward, i don't think you will have any big issues.
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True, but sound on my old Galaxy S2 was good with the speaker on the back. (Sold it before picking up the Gnex) I'm Androidless at the moment.. so its between picking this back up or the Note.
recklesslife85 said:
True, but sound on my old Galaxy S2 was good with the speaker on the back. (Sold it before picking up the Gnex) I'm Androidless at the moment.. so its between picking this back up or the Note.
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i have not really tested the SGS2, so i can't comment much in that. primarily throughout all nexus i had, Nexus one, Nexus S and now Galaxy Nexus, they are all about the same, i would say.
maybe you should give +Volume a shot, it could be something samsung has modified in their touchwiz to boost the volume, like how the Beats ranges from HTC.
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i have not really tested the SGS2, so i can't comment much in that. primarily throughout all nexus i had, Nexus one, Nexus S and now Galaxy Nexus, they are all about the same, i would say.
maybe you should give +Volume a shot, it could be something samsung has modified in their touchwiz to boost the volume, like how the Beats ranges from HTC.
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Yeah true. I'll try +Volume if I can force myself to pick one back up haha! Thanks for the input anyways.
I found the ringtones and notifications quite low, but all i do is use Audacity to boost the volume of my ringtones then put them on my phone!
Problem solved
Evileddie said:
I found the ringtones and notifications quite low, but all i do is use Audacity to boost the volume of my ringtones then put them on my phone!
Problem solved
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I'll check it out, thanks.
Evileddie said:
I found the ringtones and notifications quite low, but all i do is use Audacity to boost the volume of my ringtones then put them on my phone!
Problem solved
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this is the exactly scenario i meant by some audio are softer by default.
You will need these three apps
Voodoo LOUDER, speakerboost, and volume boost. All of which can be found in the play store or app store, whatever you call it. If you already brought Voodoo LOUDER like I did great! If not well you will needs it. For volume boost, there are two versions of the app, the 7 days trail version and the full paid version. Both work great but of coarse with the trail version you have 7 days of use. Spearkerboost is completely free by the way.
Step 1. Launch voodoo LOUDER, follow what the app tells you to do and once everything is set. Do the following.
Limit > Maximum Boost > +6 dB
Next got to slider set the volume to +6 dB.
Step 2. Launch volume boost go to setting and check Auto start.
Step 3. Launch speaketboost got setting > maximum allowed boost > 100% then check everything else on the settings screen.
Step 4. Play your music.
Issues:
The paid version of volume boost will seem to be low at first, simply lower the phone volume and bring it back up.
Speaketboost goes on and off sometimes.
Disclaimer: If you damage your ears, it wasn't my fault.
Is this really necessary? Is the sound that low for some of you? I didn't notice any issues for me on. AOSP or PA. Aren't you afraid you are going to blow your speaker with these extreme settings? I would be a little concerned.
I believe I experienced a little bit of an issue in Skype but I wasn't sure if it was Skype's issue. I have used some of these apps in the past but it would also boost ring tones which I am not to fond of. I currently use SpeakerBoost on a low setting and it seems to be fine for me.
Just wanted to share my thoughts.
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igorb81 said:
Is this really necessary? Is the sound that low for some of you? I didn't notice any issues for me on. AOSP or PA. Aren't you afraid you are going to blow your speaker with these extreme settings? I would be a little concerned.
I believe I experienced a little bit of an issue in Skype but I wasn't sure if it was Skype's issue. I have used some of these apps in the past but it would also boost ring tones which I am not to fond of. I currently use SpeakerBoost on a low setting and it seems to be fine for me.
Just wanted to share my thoughts.
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Its really about the headphones not speakers. And yes for some of us its that low.
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Indeed, I also found that the sound coming from the headset jack was too low for my tastes. Using Power Amp, there are settings (or rather a preamp) that allows for the volume to be increased but at the cost of major sound degradation. Bass becomes distorted, overall sound is blown out.
I'd be afraid that these apps might do the same? I wanted to try Voodoo sound on my last JB attempt but unfortunately the kernel wouldn't allow it.
I'm too cheap for the paid version...
while a workaround, it isnt a very good one, the sound out the headphones is very, very crappy. so crappy that i have been dealing with the low volume. you can say "is the sound out the headphone jack that big of an issue" but i didnt pay $150 for my headphones to listen to classical crap that would be best at low volumes.
thankfully i paid for power amp, which helps the issue a bit, but not much. by far the best music player for people who know how to tweak an equalizer
cant wait till its fixed, i have a pair of brand new skullcandies waiting to be used
ShinigamiH4ck3r said:
but i didnt pay $150 for my headphones to listen to classical crap that would be best at low volumes.
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I'll take your jab as a playful one...
Regardless of your taste in music, all should be able to be played at ear melting levels without degradation of quality or distortion of sound. I think about all the clubs I've DJed over the past 12 years and how some of the best systems were the ones that didn't need sheer power to sound good. Clean sound is not necessarily loud sound.
That said, it remains that there is something in the way JB is talking to the audio chip that is not allowing for power AND clean sound to come through. This is why I've stuck with ICS running Power Amp. Until this issue can be fixed, I just can't use JB.
And if I'd paid $150 for some headphones, I'd be expecting some good, clean and LOUD sound as well...
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I'll take your jab as a playful one...
Regardless of your taste in music, all should be able to be played at ear melting levels without degradation of quality or distortion of sound. I think about all the clubs I've DJed over the past 12 years and how some of the best systems were the ones that didn't need sheer power to sound good. Clean sound is not necessarily loud sound.
That said, it remains that there is something in the way JB is talking to the audio chip that is not allowing for power AND clean sound to come through. This is why I've stuck with ICS running Power Amp. Until this issue can be fixed, I just can't use JB.
And if I'd paid $150 for some headphones, I'd be expecting some good, clean and LOUD sound as well...
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lol yea no offense to classical listeners, just making a point. and i would go back to ics too if jb paranoid android wasnt so awesome. and i know clean =/= loud, i just like both
Does the free version of Voodoo work for you?
Someone posted this in another forum:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9gle8ouk80mqsgf/Aosp__SGS2_VolumeFix_signed.apk
Not sure if this'll help since you're on PA.
ShinigamiH4ck3r said:
while a workaround, it isnt a very good one, the sound out the headphones is very, very crappy. so crappy that i have been dealing with the low volume. you can say "is the sound out the headphone jack that big of an issue" but i didnt pay $150 for my headphones to listen to classical crap that would be best at low volumes.
thankfully i paid for power amp, which helps the issue a bit, but not much. by far the best music player for people who know how to tweak an equalizer
cant wait till its fixed, i have a pair of brand new skullcandies waiting to be used
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With "Skullcandies" you wouldn't notice the difference between decent or crappy sound.
Just kidding...well not really, but I'm not a basshead myself, but to each their own.
Originally Posted by ShinigamiH4ck3r<br />
while a workaround, it isnt a very good one, the sound out the headphones is very, very crappy. so crappy that i have been dealing with the low volume. you can say "is the sound out the headphone jack that big of an issue" but i didnt pay $150 for my headphones to listen to classical crap that would be best at low volumes.<br />
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thankfully i paid for power amp, which helps the issue a bit, but not much. by far the best music player for people who know how to tweak an equalizer<br />
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cant wait till its fixed, i have a pair of brand new skullcandies waiting to be used
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With "Skullcandies" you wouldn't notice the difference between decent or crappy sound. <br />
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Just kidding...well not really, but I'm not a basshead myself, but to each their own.
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I got shchinder or what ever that company is lol
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I had no sound issues whatsoever in CM10, AOKP, AOSP :screwy:
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I cannot get voodoo louder to work on cm9 beta1. I know I just need a build.prop hack to revert the device is to what we originally had. But not sure what else that will break.
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I love JB, but the headphone soundiissue is killing me! I'll stick with JB until Saturday night, going back to ics without jb fix. I hate/stoped listening to music in my car due topoor sound : (
Omar04 said:
I had no sound issues whatsoever in CM10, AOKP, AOSP :screwy:
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Are you using the headphone jack to listen to music? I've tried it on 3 different music players, apollo, google music and double twist. They are all quiet. I can usually have my radio on 30 and its plenty loud but now I've got to turn it up to 40 (maxed out on my radio) and it still isn't loud enough. It doesn't help I have a loud car to begin with, borderline race car.
why not try ac!d audio technology .zip? works better than beats audio.. it actually has beats audio, sony xloud and other engines incorporated and sounds clean
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I'm willing to try anything. Listening to the radio is killing me.
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I'm willing to try anything. Listening to the radio is killing me.
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acid audio worked/works for me
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It worked, its not as loud as before but it gets the job done. I'm happy.
Yea the sound on JB kills me i had to go back to 2.3 its sooo much louder
Epic.
iUseJuGGZz said:
Yea the sound on JB kills me i had to go back to 2.3 its sooo much louder
Epic.
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im on aokp jb.. sounds perfect.. not sure if its the rom or acid audio because i flashed it right after the rom..
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While I've been waiting for my Nexus 5, I've decided to get all my accessories ahead of time. I was on Amazon today and saw that the LG Tone Bluetooth headset is on sale..where it is normally $70-80, it's going for a little over $40..i ordered one, just wanted to let all of you know.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009A5204K/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
"A little over $40"? Dude, that's $50. Still a deal, but...either your math or vision is atrocious. Lol.
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meatlocker said:
"A little over $40"? Dude, that's $50. Still a deal, but...either your math or vision is atrocious. Lol.
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He's right, it was cheaper earlier. About $42 when I checked. Amazon prices fluctuate.
Deal looks dead now.
Also doesn't work with the Nexus 5. Volume stays at max no matter what you do.
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Also doesn't work with the Nexus 5. Volume stays at max no matter what you do.
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Have you found anything similar that works well with the N5?
A SlickDeals thread has it for $37 after rebate plus free shipping here: http://slickdeals.net/share/android_app/t/6412086
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Have you found anything similar that works well with the N5?
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Nope. I think it's inexplicable that two LG products don't work well together.
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"A little over $40"? Dude, that's $50. Still a deal, but...either your math or vision is atrocious. Lol.
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He's right, it was cheaper earlier. About $42 when I checked. Amazon prices fluctuate.
Deal looks dead now.
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Firemedic is right...look at my screenshot, i dont know why amazon would jack up the price after only a few hours, seems so stupid to me
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Firemedic is right...look at my screenshot, i dont know why amazon would jack up the price after only a few hours, seems so stupid to me
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I don't know why they do that, but it's back to $42 and change at the time of this post.
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Also doesn't work with the Nexus 5. Volume stays at max no matter what you do.
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I have that happen to me; the reason is that the Tone+ adjusts the device volume and not the headset's own volume. I blame the supposed 4.4 "enhanced support for bluetooth devices" trying to be too clever...
Either way, I've bodged mine by using the equaliser to flat pull down to 10% on all frequency channels and then set headset volume to minimum using the hardware volume rocker.
Clunky, but it works!
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I have that happen to me; the reason is that the Tone+ adjusts the device volume and not the headset's own volume. I blame the supposed 4.4 "enhanced support for bluetooth devices" trying to be too clever...
Either way, I've bodged mine by using the equaliser to flat pull down to 10% on all frequency channels and then set headset volume to minimum using the hardware volume rocker.
Clunky, but it works!
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Can you explain where you find that?
I've owned one of these headsets for almost a year (I also own the earlier HBS-700). I've tested it with the HTC One and Nexus 5. A few notes from my own experience:
As pointed out elsewhere: The HBS-730 controls the volume level on the Nexus 5 not the headset itself. I expect this is a "feature" of 4.4.
This headset has remarkably short Bluetooth range. I've seen drop outs when I have my phone in my right pocket but not in my left. My suspicion is the headset radio is on the left side. Why this is a problem is beyond me. Anyway, range in open air is better but if you expect it'll carry around the office, through walls or (occasionally) through your body: look elsewhere. The 700 has better range, oddly enough.
The battery is great. I can listen to music or podcasts for 8 solid hours. It tends to cut out at around 10 hours of use (ymmv). I've yet to see a significant loss in battery life.
The wire shielding as it enters the the headset body will start to break down after enough use. I've yet to find a real solution to this but a little electrical tape seems to prevent additional damage.
Sound quality is good. Sound isolation is very good. Mic quality is alright and very dependent on shirt collar and headset position.
$42USD (on Amazon.com at the time of this post) is a good price.
Recommended: Yes with the above caveats.
jhealy said:
Can you explain where you find that?
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How I found the solution or where I found the equaliser?
If the former, the answer was trying anything I could until it didn't deafen me!
I noticed that when I pressed the volume buttons on the Tone+ while music was playing, the system device volume bar would appear on the display and adjust just like when pressing the hardware volume keys on the device. This never happened on my Nexus 10 (stock) nor Galaxy Note (stock, PA, CM) and the headset volume could be adjusted independently of the "source" volume, so conclusion was 4.4 specific. "better support" for bluetooth devices was a well publicised thing about 4.4 so I drew that conclusion as well.
I then reduced the volume using the hardware keys to minimum and found the volume to still be too loud, which is why I had the idea of using the equaliser to drop it further.
I only use Google Play Music (for the All Access subscription), so to get the equaliser it's just Overflow Dots -> Settings -> Equaliser. Your player of choice may be different or simply not have one... I don't know if the equaliser is Play Music specific or system-wide...
Hope that helps!
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Sean.H said:
I've owned one of these headsets for almost a year (I also own the earlier HBS-700). I've tested it with the HTC One and Nexus 5. A few notes from my own experience:
As pointed out elsewhere: The HBS-730 controls the volume level on the Nexus 5 not the headset itself. I expect this is a "feature" of 4.4.
This headset has remarkably short Bluetooth range. I've seen drop outs when I have my phone in my right pocket but not in my left. My suspicion is the headset radio is on the left side. Why this is a problem is beyond me. Anyway, range in open air is better but if you expect it'll carry around the office, through walls or (occasionally) through your body: look elsewhere. The 700 has better range, oddly enough.
The battery is great. I can listen to music or podcasts for 8 solid hours. It tends to cut out at around 10 hours of use (ymmv). I've yet to see a significant loss in battery life.
The wire shielding as it enters the the headset body will start to break down after enough use. I've yet to find a real solution to this but a little electrical tape seems to prevent additional damage.
Sound quality is good. Sound isolation is very good. Mic quality is alright and very dependent on shirt collar and headset position.
$42USD (on Amazon.com at the time of this post) is a good price.
Recommended: Yes with the above caveats.
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100% agree on all points!
I also have this volume problem, yet would still recommend the headset. Really helps me ignore the lack of a proper headphone jack cutout on my spigen Neo hybrid. However, has anyone on an aosp rom noticed the volume problems as well? I wonder if it's just a Google kitkat problem.
chaosdefinesorder said:
How I found the solution or where I found the equaliser?
If the former, the answer was trying anything I could until it didn't deafen me!
I noticed that when I pressed the volume buttons on the Tone+ while music was playing, the system device volume bar would appear on the display and adjust just like when pressing the hardware volume keys on the device. This never happened on my Nexus 10 (stock) nor Galaxy Note (stock, PA, CM) and the headset volume could be adjusted independently of the "source" volume, so conclusion was 4.4 specific. "better support" for bluetooth devices was a well publicised thing about 4.4 so I drew that conclusion as well.
I then reduced the volume using the hardware keys to minimum and found the volume to still be too loud, which is why I had the idea of using the equaliser to drop it further.
I only use Google Play Music (for the All Access subscription), so to get the equaliser it's just Overflow Dots -> Settings -> Equaliser. Your player of choice may be different or simply not have one... I don't know if the equaliser is Play Music specific or system-wide...
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Thanks. Your first part answered my question. Does your phone also automatically increase back up to full volume on the phone no matter how you try to turn it down?
Example:
Connect headphones
Set headphones to minimum volume
Attempt to turn down volume on phone
Phone turns the volume back up to maximum no matter what
jhealy said:
Thanks. Your first part answered my question. Does your phone also automatically increase back up to full volume on the phone no matter how you try to turn it down?
Example:
Connect headphones
Set headphones to minimum volume
Attempt to turn down volume on phone
Phone turns the volume back up to maximum no matter what
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yeah, it's very finicky but does work eventually if you keep pressing volume down...
Update seems you have to start playing music before it will let you turn the volume down... the headset switches mode when playing music "media audio" and not playing music "phone audio" and when in one mode it looks like you cannot adjust the volume for the other mode...
chaosdefinesorder said:
yeah, it's very finicky but does work eventually if you keep pressing volume down...
Update seems you have to start playing music before it will let you turn the volume down... the headset switches mode when playing music "media audio" and not playing music "phone audio" and when in one mode it looks like you cannot adjust the volume for the other mode...
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So just to make sure I'm understanding this:
Start playing music via bluetooth
Use equalizer to turn down music
turn down music on headset
listen at less than an ear splitting level
jhealy said:
So just to make sure I'm understanding this:
Start playing music via bluetooth
Use equalizer to turn down music
turn down music on headset
listen at less than an ear splitting level
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switch 1 and 2, and use phone volume button for 3, but otherwise yes, this is what works for me...
crimson12 said:
I also have this volume problem, yet would still recommend the headset. Really helps me ignore the lack of a proper headphone jack cutout on my spigen Neo hybrid. However, has anyone on an aosp rom noticed the volume problems as well? I wonder if it's just a Google kitkat problem.
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I have the same case (pretty solid). But I'm looking to get this tomorrow and glad you guys seem to have found some type of solution since these look really great to use. Does anyone have DSP manager on their phones and used it with these yet?
Viper4android offers the same thing as dsp manager so I've been using that. To answer your question directly though, no I have not.
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