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The phone also feels tangibly heavier.
Think it may be a Super LCD screen rather than AMOLED (how can I check?). Overall, the screen just looks grey. I want my old AMOLED one back?!
Some things to try:
- look at the screen through a circular polarisation filter, eg. RealD glasses (no idea if this works with SLCD...)
- set brightness to maximum and display a black image in a dark room
- look really closely at the screen with a magnifier (or someone with good eyesight) to see if it's Pentile (I guess an LCD screen could be Pentile too...)
- weigh the phone on some good scales to see if it really is any heavier
I've weighed it - and it's just a bit higher than 135 grams. Even though it matches the spec listed on HTC's website, I still think my previous phone was lighter. Now to test the AMOLED screen. Hmm..
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Some things to try:
- set brightness to maximum and display a black image in a dark room
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the backlight is apparent then. when i switch the phone off, it goes completely black, otherwise it's a grey colour. does that mean it is not AMOLED?
It certainly sounds like that may be the case
Would you be able to post pictures? This is bad news for anyone wanting a replacement. AMOLED was a big selling point for me.
However,
Can you read it in daylight outdoors?
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the backlight is apparent then. when i switch the phone off, it goes completely black, otherwise it's a grey colour. does that mean it is not AMOLED?
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If it's LCD, can I have your Desire then? I hate the Pen-Tile pixel layout...
Seems the black wallpaper in the dark test isn't a valid avenue to test if it's AMOLED (see: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=725656).
Think it may be either me just imagining things - or a defective AMOLED screen.
I'm sending my Desire for repair as I have dust under my screen, I contacted HTC support worried if I may get an LCD screen and they asured me they are currently still using AMOLED displays only
tell me if my screen looks washed out to you. I'm sure my last desire, the colours were a lot more vivid.
Can't really tell if it looks washed out in a photo with nothing to compare it to, but it's definitely a Pentile matrix...
Yes, definitely Pentile. Damn.
Well to me it looks ok and very much the same as mine. I have never returned my Desire to be fixed.
My colors are very vibrant and i can see the screen on daylight (using auto-brightness).
I have noticed one thing on your photos though: your Internet icon is different from mine. Yours seems an older icon, really washed out, being gray and having the home icon. Mine looks more recent, it's a earth icon in blue (same blue as the mail or message icons) with some orbits rotating around the world...
Could this be it?
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Well to me it looks ok and very much the same as mine. I have never returned my Desire to be fixed.
My colors are very vibrant and i can see the screen on daylight (using auto-brightness).
I have noticed one thing on your photos though: your Internet icon is different from mine. Yours seems an older icon, really washed out, being gray and having the home icon. Mine looks more recent, it's a earth icon in blue (same blue as the mail or message icons) with some orbits rotating around the world...
Could this be it?
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The internet icon i think is Orange's reworking (notice the orange door to the house).
I just wanted to mention, I 've had 5x different Desires and some have had a more vibrant screen to others.
Through the range of brightness from minimal to maximum I've definitely been able to see that some of the handsets are bright but seem to have very slightly less clarity, whilst others have a sharper image but loose some vividness.
I prefer the brighter / more colourful one I have now.
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I just wanted to mention, I 've had 5x different Desires and some have had a more vibrant screen to others.
Through the range of brightness from minimal to maximum I've definitely been able to see that some of the handsets are bright but seem to have very slightly less clarity, whilst others have a sharper image but loose some vividness.
I prefer the brighter / more colourful one I have now.
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5 Desires. I've been through 3 so far. The first two were very similar (although the second one for some reason just felt so much lighter). This one is washed out. Going to try and phone Orange and try and see if I can have another one sent. :/
The apps like whatsapp and xda premium and fb for android all these apps have white background bt it looks off white in my phone?? I have a sgr I have compared both the devices in sgr it looks pure white than my note 2 n7100......
I m on stock Indian rooted odex firmware XXALJ3 4.1.1??? Is there any solutions for this? ? Not only pages I think white colour only looks off?? Anyone one else observed this?
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If you are talking about yellowish tint of white colors, yes its a screen defect that samsung cant get rid of.
I also have that yellow tint as well as many people. You arent the only one. There are some people replaced their phones but no luck still there. It has something to do with amoled production.
Also you will realize that if yiu tilt the phone slightly and look at the screen from angles the whites and gray colors will look normal without tint. This obviously shows its a production thing.
There are other threads with same problem as yours that you can read. Just search...
It's a problem with amoled screens unfortunately. All of them have it unless a kernel is used to adjust the screen.
Have you tried disabling "Auto adjust screen tone" in the display options?
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Have you tried disabling "Auto adjust screen tone" in the display options?
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It has nothing to do with that....
It's normal man. LCDs have awful "grey" blacks, with brilliant whites. Samoleds have deep, rich blacks, and tinted whites.
KillaHurtz said:
It's normal man. LCDs have awful "grey" blacks, with brilliant whites. Samoleds have deep, rich blacks, and tinted whites.
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as soon as I turn up the brightness i start getting a whitish tint and the whites get extremly bright, is this normal? it seems like black simply cannot be displayed properly.
black not clear
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as soon as I turn up the brightness i start getting a whitish tint and the whites get extremly bright, is this normal? it seems like black simply cannot be displayed properly.
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No, this tablet should look like any other phone or device as far as the screen goes, actually it should look better due to the better resolution. I would suggest just returning your device for another one.
If you're used to samoled screens blacks might seem a bit less dark since the note 10.1 2014 has an LCD. It's a different technology but the blacks are very good for an LCD. So maybe go to a shop and compare it to see if yours are different?
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as soon as I turn up the brightness i start getting a whitish tint and the whites get extremly bright, is this normal? it seems like black simply cannot be displayed properly.
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Its pretty normal for a lcd screen.
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ChrisNee1988 said:
Its pretty normal for a lcd screen.
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yep i just realized that lol I had forgotten it was an lcd.
amoled does spoil you doesn't it, lol.
Yes thts so true, its hard to not nit pick, iv been corrupted by amoled
Hello ..., is there any way to tweak the white balance ? I just got my tablet, it' s amazing by the way, but i want to make the white color a little bit cooler! Thanks!!
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Hello ..., is there any way to tweak the white balance ? I just got my tablet, it' s amazing by the way, but i want to make the white color a little bit cooler! Thanks!!
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It is possible by adjusting color temperature by by available yet atm
ykkfive said:
It is possible by adjusting color temperature by by available yet atm
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Can you explain to me how i can do the adjustment?
Do i need to root the tablet or from the menu? (The only tweak i found from menu is the color profiles : amoled basic, amoled cinema, etc) I have a sony xperia phone and it has an option to adjust the white balance with a slider!
Thanks..
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Can you explain to me how i can do the adjustment?
Do i need to root the tablet or from the menu? (The only tweak i found from menu is the color profiles : amoled basic, amoled cinema, etc) I have a sony xperia phone and it has an option to adjust the white balance with a slider!
Thanks..
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needs kernel support, so be patient and wait until someone make it
Today I got two 8.4 Tabs, both wifi only versions in my hands and I was impressed, that the white color was different. Sadly, the whites on mine were a little bit more yellowish, warmer, and a little bit dirtier. Is this normal for samoled?
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Today I got two 8.4 Tabs, both wifi only versions in my hands and I was impressed, that the white color was different. Sadly, the whites on mine were a little bit more yellowish, warmer, and a little bit dirtier. Is this normal for samoled?
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my experiences tell not all screens produce the same color, some are yellowish, while others are slightly blue, which can make white color a bit grey, etc
once i wanted to buy a note2 but i found its so bluish and therefore no deal
so each time I buy a phone, esp amoled, I will check the screen (and other things of coz) before I pay
I currently have 2 Galaxy Tab has 10.5 inch at home and deciding which one to keep. The main difference between the two is that one has a newer build date and love one screen seems to be a little more orange brown tint to the white versus the other tablet seems to be a little more blue yellow intent. Other than that perform identically however I did notice that when I run the CPU temperature app that the one with the yellow blue tinted screen seems to run a few degrees cooler most of the time except when using Chrome when where the other tablet seems to run several degrees cooler but only when JavaScript is activated.
One little trick in addition to adjusting the temperature using the adaptive display were changing from AMOLED basic to Evelyn cinema to make it cooler, is to go into the accessibility settings and then go into divisions section and then go into the area where one can do a test of their color as if they needed adjustments because of their own visual impairment. If you run that test and intentionally miss order the color tiles, and then will activate the option to allow you to adjust a slider which can further give you A white screen that seems to be somewhere in between the really blue display and the really warm AMOLED basic
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Old thread i know but i just wanted to thank you for that tip Canadoc. I've been struggling with the excessively warm image from my Tab S for a year now and while putting it into "Cinema" mode fixes the white balance it also destroys the contrast by making all subtle dark detail just disappear. This accessibility method has given me much nicer whites without affecting the contrast other than removing the orange haze. I assume the colours are going to be slightly different now but i can't say i've noticed anything there. I wish the Tab S had the same display options as the Galaxy S5 has where you can choose the cooler white level without hammering the contrast too. Maybe it's something Samsung do in order to protect the lifespan of the blue sub-pixel?
So thanks again
When the tab s 8.4 came out the screen quality was a bit variable, but it's been months since I have have read of anybody having a problem, see if you cab get a replacement.
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Tinderbox (UK) said:
When the tab s 8.4 came out the screen quality was a bit variable, but it's been months since I have have read of anybody having a problem, see if you cab get a replacement.
John
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Mine's the 10.5 and this is the second one i got which was exactly the same as the first one in screen tone.
I always wondered if third-world country`s got B-C grade stock, as the consumer protection can be poor or non-existent, maybe it`s cheaper for the re-seller to buy this lower grade stock with screen color problems ect, I dont know?
John.
Tinderbox (UK) said:
I always wondered if third-world country`s got B-C grade stock, as the consumer protection can be poor or non-existent, maybe it`s cheaper for the re-seller to buy this lower grade stock with screen color problems ect, I dont know?
John.
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UK here and bought from John Lewis. I've heard plenty of issues with screen temp on these ones so it's fairly common. Just using it this morning and thinking it perhaps wasn't quite as white as i'd like it and checked the settings to see if it was still in the proper mode and it was, switched it back to the old one and don't know how i ever lived with that brown tone!
Under different light sources it can take a few minutes for your eyes to adapt to the screen, so white can look a little off while this is happening, as the human eye will normally auto white balance anything you look at.
Does you screen when browsing with a white background at night, but not totally dark still not look perfectly white after a few minutes of looking at the screen.
Everybody seems to see colors slightly differently, and some not so slight, did you see the white/gold blue/black dress debate.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/s...er-you-see-says-a-lot-about-you-10074490.html
John.
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UK here and bought from John Lewis. I've heard plenty of issues with screen temp on these ones so it's fairly common. Just using it this morning and thinking it perhaps wasn't quite as white as i'd like it and checked the settings to see if it was still in the proper mode and it was, switched it back to the old one and don't know how i ever lived with that brown tone!
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Under different light sources it can take a few minutes for your eyes to adapt to the screen, so white can look a little off while this is happening, as the human eye will normally auto white balance anything you look at.
Does you screen when browsing with a white background at night, but not totally dark still not look perfectly white after a few minutes of looking at the screen.
John.
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No it never looks like clean white to me unless i tilted it slightly back or forward and then i could see the tone shift to a cooler temp. I do keep the brightness down to under 10% most of the time and that doesn't help the white level either.
I can't say i ever understood the dress image, you can factually measure and define the colour on that one so i don't know why people were confused.
Have you had anybody else check your screen, do they see the same problem, though at 10% brightness the screen is never going to look really white, I always keep mine on Auto -5 , I have the RGB sensor set on Auto i cannot even remember what it`s really called as i have never changed it, but in Auto it is supposed to keep the whites looking white, what is yours set too.
John.
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No it never looks like clean white to me unless i tilted it slightly back or forward and then i could see the tone shift to a cooler temp. I do keep the brightness down to under 10% most of the time and that doesn't help the white level either.
I can't say i ever understood the dress image, you can factually measure and define the colour on that one so i don't know why people were confused.
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Warm colours
My tab s 8,4 screen has a brownish layer, which makes whites mor brown and the colours less sharp. But when I put pressure on my tab, the "layer" goes away.
Tinderbox (UK) said:
Have you had anybody else check your screen, do they see the same problem, though at 10% brightness the screen is never going to look really white, I always keep mine on Auto -5 , I have the RGB sensor set on Auto i cannot even remember what it`s really called as i have never changed it, but in Auto it is supposed to keep the whites looking white, what is yours set too.
John.
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Sorry for not getting back to you earlier, car knocked the phone pole down and been without for 12 long days. *sigh*
Anyway, i haven't had anyone else look at mine but i don't need anyone to anyway, it's a very overly warm tone. I've never used the RGB adaptive sensor thingy as it only works in a few apps that i never use anyway.
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My tab s 8,4 screen has a brownish layer, which makes whites mor brown and the colours less sharp. But when I put pressure on my tab, the "layer" goes away.
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Do you see a much whiter tone when you choose Cinema mode? If so and you like it then you really should try the method in this thread to keep it without also cranking up the contrast.
Does anyone else has a faint blackish spot around the edges of the phone? Mine has near the righr side. It's visible to the naked eye but hard to capture on my other phone.
Blackish edge on Zenfone 5z
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Does anyone else has a faint blackish spot around the edges of the phone? Mine has near the righr side. It's visible to the naked eye but hard to capture on my other phone.
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Yes slight black shade can be seen on the edge of the display
Mine has it at the bottom.
Black spot?
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Mine has it at the bottom.
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Blackish shade or spot ?
have it too, these are just limitations of the backlight implementation , but it actually doesn't bother me.
I've the same on the corner but not don't disturbs me
I don't have that.
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Blackish shade or spot ?
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blackish shade. 2 half circles. At least they are symetrical I am gonna use a wallpaper thats dark at the bottom.
Hey guys, I have the same problem as well. Is it a problem in the display or is it common on IPS LCD display?
Help me out, got the device just yesterday.
It does not concern me anyway lol
Can someone post pictures of it perhaps so others can know before buying this phone?
This is referred to as "shadowing". It's one of the negatives of LCD, along with light bleed. I've heard a few reviews mention shadowing.
This is what it looks like with a bright white wallpaper. It is hard to take a good photo. This is at the bottom on my phone and the shadows are only visible with white/bright colored background.
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This is what it looks like with a bright white wallpaper. It is hard to take a good photo. This is at the bottom on my phone and the shadows are only visible with white/bright colored background.
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I have same problem, i try use dead pixel fix and nothing
A little black shading on right upper one third portion on my phone is evident.