I'm planning a major upgrade of my phone later this month and want to have as much information spelled out in advance as possible.
I think I will first upgrade my CWM to 5. Am I correct in understanding that CWM5 is out of beta and stable? I vaguely remember reading that its keys do not work perfectly with Froyo kernels, so I haven't moved until I do everything at once.
I'm leaning toward SleeperROM. It seems updated often and actively. On the other hand, reports that there may be wifi issues give me pause.
Whatever Rom I go to, I'll go back to RFS, because while I'm on Ext4 now, avoiding force closes is more important to me than operating speed.
My question is: Can I upgrade entirely with CWM, or will I need Odin? Has a way been developed yet to get my modem to EI22 that does not need Odin, or is it still recommended that I first Odin to a full stock EI22 Gingerbread, re-root and install CWM and my new rom from there?
If you had to do the upgrade process now, what steps would you take?
There is no modem.bin for the EI22 modem so no Odin. You have to flash the modem delta from CWM with EC05 modem on your phone. Then just flash a GB ROM and enjoy. Backup with nandroid and Titanium Backup. Not all data is compatible so some things may have to be set up again. I had to redo my email accounts in stock email client.
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Now I'm not NEARLY as experienced as Kenny, but what I did seemed to have worked out alright. I didn't use Odin (have a Mac) and used CWM (purple at the time) for it all.
I came from Froyo and did a CWM update to GB. That put me on EI22 with EC05 modem.
Updated to CWM 5. I did this as I was researching and getting ready to goto a custom ROM.
I then CWM'd to Legendary ROM (so choose your ROM here, I guess).
Then through a lot of trial and error with all the different modems, used the CWM flash able ECO5 to EI22 modem updater. This put me on Legendary Rom with EI22 modem. EI22 actually works fantastically for me.
I haven't had any problems since (minus bugs and whatnots from the Samurai Kernel and Legendary updates).
It sounds like you are pretty savvy. I don't think you will have any problems getting what you need done without Odin.
garyf said:
I'm planning a major upgrade of my phone later this month and want to have as much information spelled out in advance as possible.
I think I will first upgrade my CWM to 5. Am I correct in understanding that CWM5 is out of beta and stable? I vaguely remember reading that its keys do not work perfectly with Froyo kernels, so I haven't moved until I do everything at once.
I'm leaning toward SleeperROM. It seems updated often and actively. On the other hand, reports that there may be wifi issues give me pause.
Whatever Rom I go to, I'll go back to RFS, because while I'm on Ext4 now, avoiding force closes is more important to me than operating speed.
My question is: Can I upgrade entirely with CWM, or will I need Odin? Has a way been developed yet to get my modem to EI22 that does not need Odin, or is it still recommended that I first Odin to a full stock EI22 Gingerbread, re-root and install CWM and my new rom from there?
If you had to do the upgrade process now, what steps would you take?
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Check out QBKings How to video to Install EI22 Modem.. Then search his videos of numerous custom Roms for the one you like..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnk6lfBh5rI
It's also all personal preference. I Odined back to dg27 and got the ota package, Odined ACS Recovery, then flashed nubernel and then stock deodex EI22. Took an hour or so to reinstall apps and restore what data I wanted to keep. I like a super clean install, if it even matters much.
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Alright, I've had Quantum Rom 1.2 on my epic for a while on 2.2. Now, I know there's the old saying "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" and the issues of EB13, but I feel I'm ready to upgrade. I'd like a working GPs and less battery consumption (and maybe overclocking? Are there any custom EB13 roms that do that)
Question is, what's the best way to go about upgrading. I'd very much like to do an update.zip in Clockwork Recovery, as I've lost my usb data transfer cable (using cheap wall charger now) so I'm not keen to use Odin or the likes. I'm not really familiar with roms, kernels, and modems and the likes, but I have a general idea what I'm doing. Again, some kind of Clockwork upgrade would be the best
Thanks!
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Well, first things first, your gonna have to get a data cable, and use odin as you will need the EB13 modem. The only way to get it is either to be on DI18 and use the update.zip (you would have to odin back to it) or use odin to flash either just the EB13 modem.bin or full .tar file.
Secondly, you will need to decide if you want to convert to the EXT4 file system or not, in which case you would want CWM 3.0.0.6 instead of just 2.5.1.0. If you dont want to use the EXT4 file system, then there aren't a whole lot of choices at the moment, as Syndicate, Bonsai, midNIGHT, and Frankenstein only provide for EXT4, although Viper still looks like it will do RFS (but hasn't been updated since DK28). I personally am patiently waiting to try out CM7 when it gets finished (Gingerbread CyanogenMod)
If you decide against any of the above roms, and stick with a stock EB13, you can still flash a modified kernal and overclock your phone to 1.2GHz, along with having additional fixes baked into the kernal.
Now that we have EC05, what should I do different with this compared to EB13, in laymans terms? I'm still on DK05
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Same thing, just read through my previous response and replace EB13 with EC05.
Get yourself a usb cable because you will need to use Odin (keen or not)...
a) Odin w/ the full DI18 .tar file and use the update.zip (when it becomes available)
b) Odin w/ the full EB13 .tar file and use the update.zip (when it becomes available)
c) Odin w/ the EC05 modem.bin and use clockwork to flash an EC05 rom
I tried to post this on the actual thread about this Update, but I was not allowed because I had not posted 10 times previously.
Anyway, I am new to rooting Android phones….new to android phones for that matter. I have had the Samsung Epic 4G for about a month. I have been looking into rooting the phone, finally decided to go for it. I downloaded the filre for Clockwork Mod version 3.0.0.5/6 - UPDATED FOR EB13 from this site. After doing one run of that bat file and getting stuck on the startup screen, I realized I needed to find a compatible ROM and Kernel and install them before rebooting.
I reset the phone to default settings, using the info on http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=909384 and then I used the kernel
from the original update thread, Default Stock Dual FS kernel For EB13, and the Bonzai ROM from their website. This time, the install worked properly, and when my phone rebooted, the firmware is listed as Bonsai/Kernel_v4.01. So I wanted to backup and uninstall some Samsung Bloatware from the phone,and as I understand it, the Titanium Backup is the best way to do it. Well, I installed it, and it has consistently said the program could not acquire root status. I clicked on the “problems” icon, got busybox and upgraded superuse, and that did not effect anything. I even reflashed the Bonzai Rom, but the end result is the same, I am still getting that same message. Since I have replaced my Rom and have installed Superuser, I have to assume I have rooted the phone, so what could be the problem here? The app SetCPU also says I do not have Root Access. So I am not sure what to do at this point.
Sounds like a failed root:
Root again with the oneclick 3.0.0.6, power off, 3 finger boot and ext4 will be put on automatically. After ext4 installs install bonsai before rebooting.
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Is there a difference between onclick 3.0.0.6 and the one in the thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=897612,which is labelled 3.0.0.5/6? Because, if not, that is pretty much what I have done already.
Same one.
I would odin to eb13, odin ec05 modem, root, boot to recovery and allow ext4, flash bonsai 4.0.1. Can't remember if 4.0.1 adds ec05 modem during flash, but if it does you can skip the ec05 odin (sorrry, but my mind has been on 4.1.0 for the last week).
The odin process will get rid of the kernel you currently have. Flashing the rom doesn't do anything to the kernel. The odin process will give you a nice clean slate to workv with. If your phone wants to do an ec05 OTA update during this process please tell it later and don't do it.
Suggest you peruse the Bonsai Forum as you will find a lot of treats that will be able to help you. Http://www.bonsaigeeks.com
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Top Nurse said:
Same one.
I would odin to eb13, odin ec05 modem, root, boot to recovery and allow ext4, flash bonsai 4.0.1. Can't remember if 4.0.1 adds ec05 modem during flash, but if it does you can skip the ec05 odin (sorrry, but my mind has been on 4.1.0 for the last week).
The odin process will get rid of the kernel you currently have. Flashing the rom doesn't do anything to the kernel. The odin process will give you a nice clean slate to workv with. If your phone wants to do an ec05 OTA update during this process please tell it later and don't do it.
Suggest you peruse the Bonsai Forum as you will find a lot of treats that will be able to help you. www.bonsaigeek.com
Sent from Bonsai 7.0.3
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This exact thing happened to me after trying everything from the EC05 OTA. Just run the bat file again on the phone...nothing else and it will work fine.
Okay, I just spent over 6 hours fussing with my phone. I'll try to keep it short and simple.
My phone was running GB 2.3.3. Then a RandomROM HAWK. I was wanting my phone to run EXT4. But, I could not get it to that. When I rooted it with CWM 3.1.0.1, that did not convert the system. Running the RFStoEXT4 zip also did not work.
I just now un-rooted and went back to stock EC05 2.2.1
I then ran CWM 3.0.0.6, which did successfully convert to EXT4.
"FINALLY!", I thought. I wipe data, cache, Dalvik three times. I go to flash a SyndicateROM 1.2, and I get stuck at the Samsung screen.
I've just spent a long time on my phone, and it doesn't help that there are way too many methods to root, unroot, update, flash this, flash that, and it doesn't help that there isn't one simple way to:
Root
Convert to EXT4
Update to Gingerbread 2.3.3/2.3.4
Without going through endless links. That's all I want to do.
I would do more searching however, I've spent enough time on the internet and I really, really need a break. Could someone please help point me in the right direction?
SRF 1.2 doesn't come with a kernel. Upgrade to purple CWM 3.1.0.1 if you haven't yet and flash a kernel and reboot. You should be good after that
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Any particular kernel or just any will do?
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Any particular kernel or just any will do?
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Any custom kernel you choose.
Posted by Mr. Z's Epic 4G.
I hate sounding like a pompous jerk but, the OP says in the post that it had no kernel >.< READ MAN READ!!!!
Anyways, to kinda help, Genocide's kernel works perfect with SRF 1.2
here's the link! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=961614&highlight=genocide
I freaked out when I first tried to go to the ACS Frozen 1.2 ROM. I read that it had no kernel, but thought since I had the stock .tar file already flashed I was good to go.. n00b Mistake..
I used the Genocide 2.0 kernel, which I flashed immediately after I flashed ACS Frozen 1.2 and it worked awesome..
are you just wanting to go with EC05 and the ACS frozen 1.2 ROM?
or wanting to go with gingerbread?
If you put a stock or deodexed version of GB on the phone through ODIN, you should be good to go.
What is your end goal?
To get EG22 (2.3.4) on your phone deodexed and rooted with CWM 3.1, go here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1184134
I couldn't get mine to work with Odin 1.85, so I used Odin 1.61 and it worked flawlessly.
I just did this last night, coming from the EC05 ACS frozen 1.2 + Genocide 2.0 combo; so if you need help, let me know
CWM 3.0+ will automatically convert to EXT-4.
FYI, if you end goal is to get GB on your phone, rooted, this will be ONE simple step. You will just ODIN once and when you boot up you will have the following:
EB22 modem
2.3.4
all other stock EB22 stuff
I want to try one of the new gingerbread roms that have been developed and i was wondering what i need to flash. I am currently running RandomRom 2.2 with the genocide 2.0 kernal. Do the gingerbread roms need a gingerbread kernal or are they included in the rom? also do i need to flash a different modem too? I have EC05 on my phone right now. I have never used a rom past what is currently released so im not too sure what i need. Thank you for the help.
Basically pick the GB leak rom you want to run, download it and copy it to your sd card.
you can backup your call log, texts (sms) and mms with something like MyBackup root or titanium backup both in the market. Pretty much the only data that is safe to restore.
boot to recovery, do a backup. *** must do step.
then wipe 3x each (factory data reset, cache partition and dalvik cache)
then install the zip just like flashing any other rom
reboot and setup your apps.
It is not recommended to attempt to restore data for the apps, you'll likely be faced with foce closing applications. So just download your apps and set them up again.
you can also update your modem using odin.
here is the link that has all that information here:
[Modem] [Odin] [ACS] EH17!!, EH06, EG22, EF02/EF10, EE03, EC05, EB13, DK28
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1123103
good luck
The Gingerbread leaks do not have source so custom kernels are not yet available. Although there is an EH17plus kernel. But all the Gingerbread leaks come complete with kernel. Read the installation instructions to the one you choose in the first post.
Do all of what was said above, but please do your research and read through EVERY post/page on the GB rom threads. Due to no source code being available, all of the GB roms are buggy. There are multiple steps to take to cut down on the bugs, but you need to make sure to read through everything in order to have a "best" functioning ROM.
Looks like hurricane (EH17) or Olympus (EH06) seem to be the best as of right now, but I ended up back at EC05 due to issues. Just a heads up!
Well new company gave me 20% Sprint discount and have become sick of my Tmobiles poor coverage. However I fear wimax might be sucky too here in Seattle. Anyway, long time member here and have been involved in the HTC Sensation and One forums. Both with very very stable roms and kernals.
I was excited to pick up a couple Sprint Galaxy epics and the guy at Sprint had his all rooted and claimed it was smoking fast.
However I came to this forum and see all kinds of complaints of loss of stability just from simple Root of the Epic? Also have not read any stable ICS roms and I have read all of the threads. Plus read this phone is very easy to brick under clockwork. With sensation we use Aroma and it rocks!
So before I move on, I am not looking to break rules on asking ROM questions. I simply would like some input on what ICS rom is stable and supported still as I see many devs have moved on the the sg3 here.
What kernal and radio or what you call modem is stable and how do you find what is for your phone match?
Lastly, what is safest way to ROOT and flash ROMS for this phone?
I did read the stickies but am still confused.
I may be just happy at first to simply ROOT and install the fix for Hot Spot Wi fi and go from there.
Thanks so much.
Not even sure if phones will arrive with stock ICS tomorrow or GB...
Ice
The SAFEST way to flash stock ROMs in case of emergency is using Odin.I've found both stock ROMs (GB & ICS) very stable, however I reboot my phone everyother day (windows habit).
This thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525495 was my starting point.
rovar said:
The SAFEST way to flash stock ROMs in case of emergency is using Odin.I've found both stock ROMs (GB & ICS) very stable, however I reboot my phone everyother day (windows habit).
This thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525495 was my starting point.
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First off thank you for your reply. Interesting, I have read ODIn maybe responsible for bricking many of these phones is that incorrect? Lots of what I found seeing the people are very unstable with the custom roms so far for ICS for this phone of course stock ICS will be here soon.is there the ability to just root the phone and leave the stock ics ROM and just run the sprint hot spot mod.
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First off thank you for your reply. Interesting, I have read ODIn maybe responsible for bricking many of these phones is that incorrect? Lots of what I found seeing the people are very unstable with the custom roms so far for ICS for this phone of course stock ICS will be here soon.is there the ability to just root the phone and leave the stock ics ROM and just run the sprint hot spot mod.
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Odin never causes any bricks as long as the process is not interrupted. Most of the instability is caused by user error. From my experience, all fresh (by fresh I mean wipe data/cache and format system) custom ROM installs have been rock solid stable. Also, most network issues are fixed by updating profile/prl. Official ICS is already out, it is build FF18. Stock ICS will not normally have the hotspot mod. You will have to use a hack to install it yourself. If you want a stock ICS experience, use this odin package (reset user data) to odin your phone to pre-rooted FF18:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721229
And here is your hotspot hack:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1760712
Nonetheless, I see no reason why you wouldn't just save yourself the time and flash a custom ICS ROM.
Imho, there isn't any ics custom rom as of yet that is 100% stable, glitch-free, and reliable. I would wait it out until more polished versions come out. If there is a pretty good one to try, i'd say the blu kuban.
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Odin never causes any bricks as long as the process is not interrupted. Most of the instability is caused by user error. From my experience, all fresh (by fresh I mean wipe data/cache and format system) custom ROM installs have been rock solid stable. Also, most network issues are fixed by updating profile/prl. Official ICS is already out, it is build FF18. Stock ICS will not normally have the hotspot mod. You will have to use a hack to install it yourself. If you want a stock ICS experience, use this odin package (reset user data) to odin your phone to pre-rooted FF18:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721229
And here is your hotspot hack:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1760712
Nonetheless, I see no reason why you wouldn't just save yourself the time and flash a custom ICS ROM.
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Thanks, I think we are on the same page with this!
So I just loaded the FF18 Full Restore and Samsung drivers as indicated in this thread,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1670110
I also tested after unzipping to a folder and the ODEN program comes up waiting for me to hook up phone I dont have yet till tomorrow.
I also watched this video and it seems very easy to do if this is correct process,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IL21F8Gfbs
Still some clarifying questions,
1. If my new phone comes with ICS already pushed to it. Do I simply still install FF18 to get root for the ICS rom?
2. If phone does not come with ICS will this install ICS and Root?
3. Do I need to use this or Caulkins to wipe data first before I do this process on phone out of the box new?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1670110
Also I am little nervous reading this post from SFHUB<, Is he saying not to do the above process thru the built in Odin recovery in the phone if it comes with stock ICS in it? What does this mean???
The Epic 4g Touch has a bug in it's emmc controller that can cause the /data partition to become inaccessible/unrecoverable sometimes thanks to the wipe process when flashing from ICS recoveries... DO NOT FLASH FROM ICS RECOVERIES!!!!
7/11/12 edit: In the FF18 source Garwynn has confirmed the presence of the offending code that triggers the emmc bug (http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...1&postcount=32) meaning that it will eventually be safe to flash from ICS as long as the offending code is removed by the dev of the kernel/rom...
- Please see this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1525495) thread by xST4T1K which details how NOT to brick your device... It is slightly out of date but still very relevant... if you want a more technical understanding of what this emmc bug is and why this is happening you can see Sfhub's thread in general related to it (http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1644364 ). The OP contains all of the information that our users have been able to figure out about this bug... Be sure to thank these people, as their hard work has made it exponentially safer for all of us to flash ICS roms on our phones...
-Every ICS rom will have a flashing guide in it's dev thread, its HIGHLY suggested you read and reread the guide for the rom you want to flash and follow it EXACTLY, taking the extra time upfront to fully understand what you're about to do will save you alot of trouble going forward.
-Put simply though you will always want to ODIN or Mobile ODIN (mobile Odin is an app made by the dev chainfire, available in the play store, that allows you to preform Odin flashes from your phone without using a PC) the el26 Gingerbread kernel/recovery and flash any ICS roms from that. NEVER FLASH FROM AN ICS RECOVERY, THAT IS HOW BRICKS ARE MADE!!!! Also do NOT use Rom Manager or Touch recovery!!!!
- Currently there are some ICS recoveries that are thought to be safe to flash from thanks to the work done on the emmc bug. If one of these is included in your rom it will be noted by the dev in the rom thread, however the safest way is still just to Odin back to el26 in order to avoid any chance of bricking!
Next, once I do this FF!8 and have root and ICS. If I want to dabble in custom roms. I am guessing they are installed by CWM from file downloaded to root of SD card like normal. I do not find CWM touch for this phone anywhere. I am sure I am missing it. It seems from reading the exploit in ICS kernal is causing the bricks. So I am guessing to use SF hubs or Claukins data wipe before loading custom roms. Are we beating to the same drum here?
Will correct radio or modem be installed automtic with FF18 or custom roms? I see many threads just on modems.
Thanks and thanks for the hot spot mod.
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Imho, there isn't any ics custom rom as of yet that is 100% stable, glitch-free, and reliable. I would wait it out until more polished versions come out. If there is a pretty good one to try, i'd say the blu kuban.
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Thats what it seems from hours reading each ROM thread. Reminds me of the Sensation when GB and or ICS first leaked. Will most likely just root stock and go from there.
CWM is in the kernel. Current kernels such as chris41g's or AGAT's kernels have patched up recoveries that avoid the emmc bug, so they are completely safe. You should use calkulins format all before flashing a rom in CWM.
For odin, it wouldn't hurt to odin sfhubs wipe data/cache, but it's not necessary. As long as you use the reset user data odin package for FF18, it will take you to stock rooted FF18. Regardless of what rom your phone comes with, run that odin package. You don't need to worry about the modem either because it will install the latest one. Be sure to update your profile/prl in settings>about>system updates after.
If you want to try a custom rom, use odin to flash a kernel with cwm (agat's or chris41g's). Once you have a recovery, flash calkulins format all, and then the ROM of your choice. Modems are not installed through CWM rom zips. You'll have to flash a modem zip in recovery or odin a modem tar.
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CWM is in the kernel. Current kernels such as chris41g's or AGAT's kernels have patched up recoveries that avoid the emmc bug, so they are completely safe. You should use calkulins format all before flashing a rom in CWM.
For odin, it wouldn't hurt to odin sfhubs wipe data/cache, but it's not necessary. As long as you use the reset user data odin package for FF18, it will take you to stock rooted FF18. Regardless of what rom your phone comes with, run that odin package. You don't need to worry about the modem either because it will install the latest one. Be sure to update your profile/prl in settings>about>system updates after.
If you want to try a custom rom, use odin to flash a kernel with cwm (agat's or chris41g's). Once you have a recovery, flash calkulins format all, and then the ROM of your choice. Modems are not installed through CWM rom zips. You'll have to flash a modem zip in recovery or odin a modem tar.
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I was studying Sfhugs FF18 thread and it says I can do the one click root and then install option D and that puts in the FF18, with agats CWM. So is this more simple then flashing FF18 and then doing a flash for either chris or agat kernal with cwm?
Should I use Calkulins format before flashing FF18 from stock?
So when you guys flash new custom roms you have to flash current modem each time? or only if you want to have a more current one? Coming from HTC you only have to flash radio when its required to match a new base leaked. So little confused there too.
Thanks your help has been great!
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I was studying Sfhugs FF18 thread and it says I can do the one click root and then install option D and that puts in the FF18, with agats CWM. So is this more simple then flashing FF18 and then doing a flash for either chris or agat kernal with cwm?
Should I use Calkulins format before flashing FF18 from stock?
So when you guys flash new custom roms you have to flash current modem each time? or only if you want to have a more current one? Coming from HTC you only have to flash radio when its required to match a new base leaked. So little confused there too.
Thanks your help has been great!
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I know I personally use Mijjahz's "GOODNESS" ROM and it runs smooth. Many mods and add ons with more added daily. I flashed agat's 2.2 kernel because I don't like the 2.3 that version 16.6.1 comes with.
I also flashed FF18 over my EL26 modem. Modems don't change between flashing I believe. Those you update yourself. A lot of folks stay on EL29 or find something that works perfectly in their area.
Sent from Konnor the E4GT.
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Imho, there isn't any ics custom rom as of yet that is 100% stable, glitch-free, and reliable. I would wait it out until more polished versions come out. If there is a pretty good one to try, i'd say the blu kuban.
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not sure what you expect from a mobile os but I couldn't disagree more.... my experance on mijjahs goodness has been better and more stable than stock in every way, hell even cm9 and aokp are extremely reliable as well if you can live without dialer codes and prl/profile updates.... no software is ever going to be 100%.... I say flash away, you won't be dissapointed
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not sure what you expect from a mobile os but I couldn't disagree more.... my experance on mijjahs goodness has been better and more stable than stock in every way, hell even cm9 and aokp are extremely reliable as well if you can live without dialer codes and prl/profile updates.... no software is ever going to be 100%.... I say flash away, you won't be dissapointed
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QFT.
ICS ROMs are very stable at this point.
iceshark said:
Thanks, I think we are on the same page with this!
So I just loaded the FF18 Full Restore and Samsung drivers as indicated in this thread,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1670110
I also tested after unzipping to a folder and the ODEN program comes up waiting for me to hook up phone I dont have yet till tomorrow.
I also watched this video and it seems very easy to do if this is correct process,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IL21F8Gfbs
Still some clarifying questions,
1. If my new phone comes with ICS already pushed to it. Do I simply still install FF18 to get root for the ICS rom?
2. If phone does not come with ICS will this install ICS and Root?
3. Do I need to use this or Caulkins to wipe data first before I do this process on phone out of the box new?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1670110
Also I am little nervous reading this post from SFHUB<, Is he saying not to do the above process thru the built in Odin recovery in the phone if it comes with stock ICS in it? What does this mean???
The Epic 4g Touch has a bug in it's emmc controller that can cause the /data partition to become inaccessible/unrecoverable sometimes thanks to the wipe process when flashing from ICS recoveries... DO NOT FLASH FROM ICS RECOVERIES!!!!
7/11/12 edit: In the FF18 source Garwynn has confirmed the presence of the offending code that triggers the emmc bug (http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...1&postcount=32) meaning that it will eventually be safe to flash from ICS as long as the offending code is removed by the dev of the kernel/rom...
- Please see this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1525495) thread by xST4T1K which details how NOT to brick your device... It is slightly out of date but still very relevant... if you want a more technical understanding of what this emmc bug is and why this is happening you can see Sfhub's thread in general related to it (http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1644364 ). The OP contains all of the information that our users have been able to figure out about this bug... Be sure to thank these people, as their hard work has made it exponentially safer for all of us to flash ICS roms on our phones...
-Every ICS rom will have a flashing guide in it's dev thread, its HIGHLY suggested you read and reread the guide for the rom you want to flash and follow it EXACTLY, taking the extra time upfront to fully understand what you're about to do will save you alot of trouble going forward.
-Put simply though you will always want to ODIN or Mobile ODIN (mobile Odin is an app made by the dev chainfire, available in the play store, that allows you to preform Odin flashes from your phone without using a PC) the el26 Gingerbread kernel/recovery and flash any ICS roms from that. NEVER FLASH FROM AN ICS RECOVERY, THAT IS HOW BRICKS ARE MADE!!!! Also do NOT use Rom Manager or Touch recovery!!!!
- Currently there are some ICS recoveries that are thought to be safe to flash from thanks to the work done on the emmc bug. If one of these is included in your rom it will be noted by the dev in the rom thread, however the safest way is still just to Odin back to el26 in order to avoid any chance of bricking!
Next, once I do this FF!8 and have root and ICS. If I want to dabble in custom roms. I am guessing they are installed by CWM from file downloaded to root of SD card like normal. I do not find CWM touch for this phone anywhere. I am sure I am missing it. It seems from reading the exploit in ICS kernal is causing the bricks. So I am guessing to use SF hubs or Claukins data wipe before loading custom roms. Are we beating to the same drum here?
Will correct radio or modem be installed automtic with FF18 or custom roms? I see many threads just on modems.
Thanks and thanks for the hot spot mod.
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you're quoting some of my new user guide here, and i haven't updated it since the OTA came out so it somewhat overstates the danger of bricking (not a bad thing really, made you read, didn't it!?) which was much easir to do before we got kernel source, since then agat63 and chris41g have been killin it in kernel development since they got ICS source... their ICS kernels are safe to flash from and can be found in the dev section, if you're on the stock FF18 rooted with stock kernel i would personally ODIN (mobile or desktop) back to EL26, and from there flash whatever custom ICS rom you like, as far as I'm aware all of the roms come with a safe kernel these days but do be sure to double check and flash one if it does not... at that point going forward should you wish to flash something else you can just do it via cwm as per usual without having to odin back to gingerbread....do note however that you can't use touchwiz kernels with AOSP roms, there asr safe AOSP kernels as well however...
edit: oops, just noticed revamper addressed most of this on the last page, to answer another one of your questions though you can try as many modems as you like and decide which one works best for you, its varies phone to phone and area to area... the modem is not at all required to match the build number of the rom, (example: may people still use the el29 modem with ICS) you can use ANY modem with ANY rom
Ive flashed this phone hundreds of times. Put your rom and any other zips you have on external card. Then to do a full clean wipe go to privacy. then factory data reset then check usb storage. You can skip this step, but this is how to get it factory fresh. Download the el26 cwm kenal. Its posted everywhere. Next open Odin go to pda and select EL26 cwm kernal. Uncheck auto reboot. Have battery cover off! Flash kernal pop battery out when it starts to boot. or says pass. then use the vol up and power combo hold them down until boot screen pops up then let off. Next flash calkulins wipe all or wipe no data. . Never brick never fail. Then flash your rom and tweaks and be happy. Ive done this driving down the road its that easy. Laptop sitting in passenger seat with odin up lol. Plus i drive a 5sp full size truck. Flashing is easy. Follow directions. There is nothing wrong with this phone just read directions if your a noob. I,ll be making multi scenario flashing youtube movies soon. Like mobile tech videos does.
Flashing is easy. Follow directions. There is nothing wrong with this phone just read directions if your a noob.
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That's all there is to say.