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I have an iphone 4 now but i dont to play games on it due the small screen. Im looking a 2 scenarios. Keep my iphone and a actual handhelp system like the 3ds or psp vita. Then ive seen bestbuy has the play 4g for free with an upgrade. So im really wondering how are all of satisfied with the play as a gaming device and a phone? I really want the physical controls but does the obsolete hardware hinder it?
What is this obsolete hardware you speak of?
If you want actal high quality games buy a 3DS or PS Vita, If you want emulators get the Play. The real Xperia Play optimised games are nice but they are cheap and buggy iphone ports, so if you want high quality gaming get a hendheld.
People on here seem to try to deny it but yes the Play is somewhat sluggish as an android device when compared to such as the SGSII or the sensation xe and some newer games don't run great. Dead on arrival runs slowly, gta 3 has the graphics turned down and still suffers terrible frame rate drops regularly, and fifa 12 has terrible lag.
Having said that, I really wouldn't fancy trying to play those games on a touch screen, which is why I got the play!
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Opinions are like buttholes - everyone has one.
Personally, I love my Play. I don't find it to be laggy at all, once I took the time to customize it. Never a big time gamer, I find I play a lot more games now that I have the Play than I ever did with the handhelds I have owned. It really comes down to what your expectations are. If you want a great phone that can do many things well including play some great games, get the Play. If you're going to want the hottest, latest game titles, then get a cheap phone that doesn't require a data plan, or stick with that I-don't-know-what-I-was-thinkin'-phone, and buy whichever game system you think will best serve your interests.
The Xperia play has never been that sluggish to me, and I'm a heavy app user too, It performs just like another android device, I also installed v6 supercharger, Xperia play is a good phone.
SERIOUSLY, Fifa 12 lags on your Xperia PLAY?
what have you been doing to your phone lately?
Yep, my Xperia PLAY has also been lag-free.
I have a GS2, Atrix and G2x available to test on at any given time, and Xperia PLAY runs games just as smoothly as they do despite being a single core. It's far from obsolete, and as someone who also came from 4th gen iDevices... I can safely say it's been MUCH better at everything.
jeah performence is one thing... but the other thing is the quality of the games...
compare Street fighter 3DS with Bruce Lee
compare Splinter cell Conviction with Splinter Cell 3D
compare Mario Kart 7 with "Shrek Kart" or what ever
And than look at Super Mario 3D Land and cry becouse you have a Xperia Play and not a 3DS....
Understand what i mean?
So now we are comparing a next gen deadicated portable gaming device to a cell phone.
Wake up man its a cell phone, compare to to other cell phones.
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People on here seem to try to deny it but yes the Play is somewhat sluggish as an android device when compared to such as the SGSII or the sensation xe and some newer games don't run great. Dead on arrival runs slowly, gta 3 has the graphics turned down and still suffers terrible frame rate drops regularly, and fifa 12 has terrible lag.
Having said that, I really wouldn't fancy trying to play those games on a touch screen, which is why I got the play!
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SERIOUSLY, Fifa 12 lags on your Xperia PLAY?
what have you been doing to your phone lately?
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I have to agree with narflynn here. I have hard a few times that FIFA 12 lags terribly but I've played it multiple times and in fact use it to show off my phone and it never lags. In fact all EA games run silky smooth and perfect with NEVER a single problem. Gameloft games on the other hand are hit or miss.
I love emulators and have many on my phone. Nes, snes Genesis n64 neogeo cps1 cps2. This phone is awesome for emulators. If you love emus this is the phone. Rooting and unlocking is really easy. Trust me this phone may not boast top of the line specs, but I don't care. I love this phone.
My favorite games to play are:
Modern Combat 3
Shadowgun
Dead Space
BackStab
Grand Theft Auto 3
Sonic CD
Dungeon Defenders
These are just a few. I have way too many games on my phone to count them and thats not even touching the amount of emulator games.
If you get this phone I would recommend rooting it and removing all the bloatware, then using script manager run the V6 Supercharger (best thing I have done for this phone) and I only overclocked my phone to 1.2ghz just to give it a little bump. And flashing a SDcard cache size limit from 125hb to 4mb really made the phones accessing the SDcard much smoother (but this should be done on all android phones as Androids SD cache size is set at 128k) But this phone plays all those games just fine. I have not had any issues with Grand Theft Auto 3 or Fifa 12. Once I rooted and did those thing this phone just flies. Again... I love this phone. I have a PSP and have not touched it once since getting this phone, its got like 3 inches of dust on it.
Playing Onlive (with a good internet connection) is sweet with the Play's built in controller
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So now we are comparing a next gen deadicated portable gaming device to a cell phone.
Wake up man its a cell phone, compare to to other cell phones.
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Yeah it is a cell phone. But it is not onle a cell phone it is THE psp phone that everybody dreamed of... It should be compareable to handehelds, not to other phones.
The Hardware of the Xperia Play is graet for gaming but the software sucks in that point. Dont understand me wrong, i love android. But for gaming the Xperia Play should have a gaming mode that opens in fullscreen and cancels all and i mean all backround progresses and runs games from that. It could look like the psp menu. Than it needs much better programmed games, wich are not so cheap and buggy and not made for touchscreen and just get ported. If sony is able to make this things true, the Xperia Play would be a real psp phone and could be much better than a hendheld.
I know i sound kind of angry with my Xperia Play and that is true, right now i hate it a little, and not only becouse its broken. If it stays i am really going to get a 3DS. And maybe sell my play...
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Playing Onlive (with a good internet connection) is sweet with the Play's built in controller
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Agreed. Batman Arkham Asylum, Bioshock....
IE-coRe said:
Yeah it is a cell phone. But it is not onle a cell phone it is THE psp phone that everybody dreamed of... It should be compareable to handehelds, not to other phones.
The Hardware of the Xperia Play is graet for gaming but the software sucks in that point. Dont understand me wrong, i love android. But for gaming the Xperia Play should have a gaming mode that opens in fullscreen and cancels all and i mean all backround progresses and runs games from that. It could look like the psp menu. Than it needs much better programmed games, wich are not so cheap and buggy and not made for touchscreen and just get ported. If sony is able to make this things true, the Xperia Play would be a real psp phone and could be much better than a hendheld.
I know i sound kind of angry with my Xperia Play and that is true, right now i hate it a little, and not only becouse its broken. If it stays i am really going to get a 3DS. And maybe sell my play...
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No, it shouldn't.
Its a Phone, there is a ton of basic functionality that is required to be running all the time.
I don't want to miss calls and texts and calendar alerts because I'm busy smashing up Dr Robotnik in Sonic the Hedgehog. I like that it plays games, but i NEED it to be a phone, as does most everyone else. I also like that I can do those things, and then hop right back into the game I was playing.
Aside from the fact that while the savvy public like us would understand how that mode works, the rest of the public would freak out that playing games blocks the ability for calls and texts to get through.
Where do you get psp phone from? Its a android cell phone with a playstation certified gamepad.
Thats it.
Thats all it ever was and all it ever will be. You hype it up so much just to disappoint yourself.
The xperia play is one of the best android based cell phone on the market. Who ever told you this was a psp should be shot in the face
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No, it shouldn't.
Its a Phone, there is a ton of basic functionality that is required to be running all the time.
I don't want to miss calls and texts and calendar alerts because I'm busy smashing up Dr Robotnik in Sonic the Hedgehog. I like that it plays games, but i NEED it to be a phone, as does most everyone else. I also like that I can do those things, and then hop right back into the game I was playing.
Aside from the fact that while the savvy public like us would understand how that mode works, the rest of the public would freak out that playing games blocks the ability for calls and texts to get through.
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Hmm your are right with that... Maybe it could cancel every backround activity except sms and calls. But enoungh about what could be. Fact is that the play is nice but not perfect.
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Where do you get psp phone from? Its a android cell phone with a playstation certified gamepad.
Thats it.
Thats all it ever was and all it ever will be. You hype it up so much just to disappoint yourself.
The xperia play is one of the best android based cell phone on the market. Who ever told you this was a psp should be shot in the face
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Its kinda a nickname that the play had before it was released. I have the Play now for 4 month now i wouldnt say that i am dissapointed. I does what it promises. I am just speking out what i feel right now.
sicmadek said:
I have an iphone 4 now but i dont to play games on it due the small screen. Im looking a 2 scenarios. Keep my iphone and a actual handhelp system like the 3ds or psp vita. Then ive seen bestbuy has the play 4g for free with an upgrade. So im really wondering how are all of satisfied with the play as a gaming device and a phone? I really want the physical controls but does the obsolete hardware hinder it?
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Just buy the 3ds. The 3d effect is very cool and the quality of games will never be matched by cheap android games.
Mario kart 7>any racing game available in the appstore, even real racing.
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Apple has some great games that i would like to play but with a 3.5" screen my fingers will cover half of it. Im just Not a fan of playing games on a small touchscreen. A gaming device with a physical controller and still has all the smarphone functionality. Thats what i want. If rooting and tweaking cures the few flaws of the play i can do that.
I'm just considering my options.
I am a gamer. But from what I see on Wikipedia, the game base for this is very limited with crap ps1 games like jumping flash.... ammi rite?
Considering this vs. the new HTC One X.
Is there a successor to this phone coming soon?
Trying to get caught up on this model and series...
I see now, 228 games listed in the other forum.
Though, I was hoping for some quality PS1 games at least.
It would be sweet to be able to play my PSN purchased ps1 games or ps2 games. Final Fantasy 7,8,9,10 Silent Hills, Resident Evils, etc...
=(
Well you can also install emulators for other consoles.
And FPSE is is good for all your PS1 games.
I and one other person are also working on getting PSXPeria working again as alot of people are having problems. Which lets you play PS1 games on the native Xperia Play emulator for better compatibility. We're almost there. Once we're both tested it, I'll make a thread for it with detailed instructions.
Xperia Play is a great phone and gaming device. Can emulator the other consoles, so really the gamebase is HUGE.
typhoonikan said:
I see now, 228 games listed in the other forum.
Though, I was hoping for some quality PS1 games at least.
It would be sweet to be able to play my PSN purchased ps1 games or ps2 games. Final Fantasy 7,8,9,10 Silent Hills, Resident Evils, etc...
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or psxperia is good to a guide sorta thread will be up soon
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I'm just considering my options.
I am a gamer. But from what I see on Wikipedia, the game base for this is very limited with crap ps1 games like jumping flash.... ammi rite?
Considering this vs. the new HTC One X.
Is there a successor to this phone coming soon?
Trying to get caught up on this model and series...
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If your a gamer get the Xperia Play. It's cheaper and it's an all rounder. Loads of games on it as well.
Oh and Sonic 4 Episode 2 will be coming out on it as well sweet ! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1521835
With the release of the Playstation Suite in April (probably along with our ICS update) we should hopefully see an increase in good quality games
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With the release of the Playstation Suite in April (probably along with our ICS update) we should hopefully see an increase in good quality games
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Spot on
I guess you should evaluate it from every angle.
Unfortunately, I think Xperia Play is already at the end of its support life. Probably from 2013 on we'll have almost no support, and I'm kinda willing to bet there'll be no official Jelly Bean for us (though we have a great team here at xda that surely will make it work for us) while HTC One X will probably receive support til 2014.
Besides, the hardware on One X seems better from the spec sheet.
On the other hand, Xperia Play works very well for the daily use and have this amazing touchpad that I love. Until it starts to be too laggy to work on a daily basis, I'm not willing to exchange it for any other device.
So, it's really your call and priorities. We'll be waiting you to join us!
I haven't gotten any information about the second vision of this incredible phone.. Just like this design.. Maybe the next phone for me is Pureview 808
The answer is a resounding "maybe"
I'd probably lean towards no though. Unfortunately, our phones are too niche, I'd wager.
if they plan to release an xplay 2 they better announce it before they launch the hayabusa.
Yes
but not soon.
Yes, in my opinion, Xperia Play was just an experiment to observe how a mobile gaming phone would react to the smartphone industry. And it did pretty good after a few months full of nice updates and optimizations of games for this phone.
Unfortunately, XPlay is quite underpowered right now compared to the newest phones which have 2x better specifications. But it still rocks knowing the fact that it can run ICS.
I think the next generation of XPlay could have 2 directions:
1. It could be a better, upgraded version of Xperia Play.
2. It could be a real PSP phone, on which you can play PSP games.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I never saw much about the Xperia Play (here in the States, at least) unless I just happened to see it on my carrier's website, or in a store on display, without the gamepad slid out. I think this phone would have really benefited from being pushed as a "gamer's phone," especially with them having announced the PSN store connectivity. Unless their sole target market was Japan, I think the reason this phone was held back was the lack of hype from Sony Ericsson, itself.
If the Xperia Play had really taken off, it wouldn't be hard to imagine Microsoft trying their hand at having an X-Box portable-type phone, with all the X-box Live connectivity they already have with Windows Phone 7. Even Nintendo, the veritable king of handheld gaming,would most likely have tried their hand at doing the phone thing.
If they make it run the vita os and keep it as phone only without the android ecosystem, It would make it rather lame. In fact I would probably look into a highend slider as a replacement, I could bind the xplay buttons to certain buttons on the keyboard and still use them, and have all the other benefits of Android phones as well.
Not saying one using vita os would be terrible if your just after phone basics and good games, i just like what we have going in android and think alot of it wouldnt be available under vita os.
The new so called "PS" phone aka Xperia Play 2 will only rise once Sony's new PSP Vita saturates in the market.
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The new so called "PS" phone aka Xperia Play 2 will only rise once Sony's new PSP Vita saturates in the market.
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pfff. From what I can tell this time has already come. Before I had gotten my vita sales in japan had been bad. Which for Sony is NOT good. I played my vita for about a week or two. Its been sitting on my desk ever since. There are no good games for it and there's nothing else to do with it.
I want an Xperia Play 2 so badly.....
I have always wanted an Android gaming handheld. At first I was looking at the generic chinese handhelds to play on, but I decided against it (too many problems,poor quality).Then I remembered about the Xperia Play.
I want to play N64, GBA, SNES (for sure). And the occasional 3D android game eg. Frisbee Forever, Cut the Rope, Fruit Ninja, GTA III. The device I currently have is the Epic 4G Touch rooted and overclocked. But touchscreen emulators are terrible.
Is going from the Galaxy SII to the Xperia Play terrible? I will just be using the phone for the gaming functions, and as a internet device (wifi only). I am hoping although the Play is single core, it will be as smooth as my Galaxy. Thank you!!
It won't be as smooth as a dual core device, but you can run emulators up to ps1 (almost) flawlessly. For me, GTA III was a tiny bit laggy, but still playable.
As far as the u.i goes, you won't get GalaxySII smoothness or responsiveness, however you wont find a better emulation machine than the xperia play
Especially for very old systems like nes,snes, gameboy colour, sega, neogeo. There is an emulator for everything and they all run flawlessly on the play with the button (ps1 can be a bit flaky).
Thanks for your reply guys. PS1 emulation is something I'm not that interested in so that is not a worry. I have one more question though.
How do the analog sticks feel? I will be going to the store later today or in the week to try them out myself, but I just was wondering how you guys liked them?
If you want to play games, and have a cellphone in the same device, for sure, buy the Xperia Play. I came from a Optimus 2X, that isnt a Galaxy SII at all, but its a powerfull dual core too, and i dont regret. Xperia Play is a single core, but its the most powerfull one that I've have already seen, and runs smoothly the most of HD games. How its already saiyd in a above post, GTA III really get a bit of lag, but not much. Can be sure, the physical gamepad make a big diference. About the analogical touchpad, isnt so good to handle as a true analogical stick, but its better than nothing.
If you get an Xperia Play, I hardly recomend you to root and install DroidSail Super App2SD or a similar, because the 200mb of internal memory are ridiculous for a gaming device, and this app allows you to pass all the apps to sd card.
I wanted to play emulators too and i bought a chinese android console, and then i just read that the xperia play was better in emus and better quality and i sold the chinese console and bought an CDMA Xperia play to use as a console.
Then i loved it so much i sold my blackberry and my CDMA xperia play and bought a GSM xperia play and i now have all i want in my pocket. (phone, camera, divxplayer, console, mp3 player, tablet).
i think you wont regret it, if you only want it as a portable device, without cell phone recomend a r800a since its cheaper than the r800i
i use firmware 2.3.4 58, great batery life, last all day even if i msg a lot and play like 2 hours in the day. (on 2g, no wifi, no bluetooth or gps)
My answer may be biased since I don't like having to rub touch devices too long, but the analog touchpad is pretty frustrating at times. You basically tilt your thumbs in the direction you want them to go. Maybe you can adapt to it if you're used to using touchscreen analog in Android games, but for me they're frustrating.
No, you should not get the Play. The phone is obsolete already, there are no future updates expected from Sony, some of the best devs are leaving for other phones, official ICS was denied to us and the community is quickly dwindling.
If you want a great gaming device, get a handheld designed for that purpose. If you want an awesome phone, better take a look at what is being released in the near future, and stay away from Sony. By all means, don't waste your money on a phone that is already a year and a half old.
netizenmt said:
No, you should not get the Play. The phone is obsolete already, there are no future updates expected from Sony, some of the best devs are leaving for other phones, official ICS was denied to us and the community is quickly dwindling.
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You have a point there, even though Sony promised some more GB updates.
I heard the PSP 3000 has the ability to run emulators too, so you might want to look into that.
Well, I went to the Verizon store. I installed N64oid on the Play. And quite frankly, I hated it. The analogs sticks are just not for me.
I have decided to just buy the Yinlips YDPG18. looks like a PS Vita, but runs Android. Thanks for all your help!
Compared to my old phone, a Motorola Atrix 4G (nvidia tegra dual core), the sony xperia play feels faster, smoother, and higher quality phone. I can't explain it, and the fact that you have a real joystick to play real games is an added icing.
Having said that, you should not pay more than $100 US for a nice used one. I am looking at you Amazon sellers, trying to sell an R 800i for $300, what ripoffs!
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m thinkin of getting xperia play but the phones of the same price range got dual core processors... only thing for which m considering xperia play is obviously its gamepad... so wat do u guys say... should i get a xperia play or just move on to other phones? se didnt gave ics update to it... can i expect jellybean workin on this device or its hardware is outdated for tat?
If you're more a gamer than a phone user, buy the Play. If you're more a phone user than a gamer, buy a different phone.
This device is designed with gamers in mind, that's why they included a gamepad with it. And do not worry about cores, most games that are Xperia Play-compatible work pretty good on it.
Devs are hard at work porting Jellybean to the Play. Amazingly, Jellybean is much faster than ICS and possibly even faster than Gingerbread (but we'll see if that one holds up). I think you should get the Play, if you want to play games on it. Dual core phones just don't hold a candle to physical buttons
Plus u can laugh at people who need to touch their phone screen to play games. Even if their hardware is powerful n all, i consider touching screen to play games is LAME!!!
i rather use a play than s3. SERIOUSLY.
I love my phone so much I have no interest in another touchscreen only phone. Truthfully... when my contract end in 6 months I plan on getting the AT&T play and using it on T-Mobile. I don't care if there is a galaxy s4 out or not. This phone rocks and the devs are doing a fantastic job with the PLAY.
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actually , if you are looking for childish gsmeloft's games ( i never like gmelotf's games ) , yeah ' time to buy a dual core phone
but if you like the consoles game ,snes,MD,n64,ps1,GBA, SCUMM engine games like monkey island ... don't hesitate , buy a xperia play and enjoy , cause you never will have fantastic experience (like xperia play ) on other smartphones (( if you are a gamer ))
i, personally will wait till end of the world for xperia play 2 , or a smartphone like that ...
Don't buy the Xplay as an upgrade. You're going to regret it. If anything, get it from eBay or Craigslist. It's totally not worth using an upgrade for it. Save up for a good much newer phone that will actually last you and keep up with times for the next 2 years.
It's good for games and emulators, but with lots of play expect to stay plugged in somewhere or have your phone drain pretty quick.
And no, you will not get jellybean. You will get ICS from here, but expect few things to be broken. Sony will probably release a newer Gingerbread rom but that's it.
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Plus u can laugh at people who need to touch their phone screen to play games. Even if their hardware is powerful n all, i consider touching screen to play games is LAME!!!
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Haha I agree. Games for me don't have to look graphically good. I am happy with the games that are on the Xperia PLAY at the moment.
And as everyone says you can't beat physical buttons !
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And as everyone says you can't beat physical buttons !
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That's what she said!! BAM! Just had to say it.....maybe its the food coma.......stupid dinner.
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I really wonder is there ever gonna be a device with high end hardware + gamepad other than play...
Be or not to be that's the.......
If you're a gamer and like all the retro stuff than of course take the PLAY. I think till today this little wonder handle all games not much more bader then the dual cores. Of course in the future threre wiil be more havier gAmes which the PLAY can't handle and for that reason there's only one opportunity "HOPE"
for a second more powerfull device with an gamepad (tried to play with touchscreen but that isn't gaming for me just ****). But if such an device never come then my PLAY still is andwill be the best mobile emulator machine!!!
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If you're a gamer and like all the retro stuff than of course take the PLAY. I think till today this little wonder handle all games not much more bader then the dual cores. Of course in the future threre wiil be more havier gAmes which the PLAY can't handle and for that reason there's only one opportunity "HOPE"
for a second more powerfull device with an gamepad (tried to play with touchscreen but that isn't gaming for me just ****). But if such an device never come then my PLAY still is andwill be the best mobile emulator machine!!!
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Kudos!!!