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Hey Everyone,
I recently pre-ordered the Galaxy Nexus from Bell on contract for three years thinking that Wind and Mobilicty are CDMA. (I know, I'm crazy). I have just figured out that they are in fact a GSM network. My question is that if I changed my order from bell from a three year contract to unlocked, will it work on Mobilicity's service? I know there probably won't be 4G speeds but if I can get a plan with unlimited calling and data for $17.50 per month instead of the 500mb and 200 minutes im getting with Bell for $50 a month, I'd rather get it unlocked.
Note: If you say it will work, please provide some evidence of some sort, e.g. some specs that state that the Galaxy Nexus will work with Mobilicity's network
Thanks so much everyone, and if you could reply as fast as possible it would be extremely appreciated as the promotion that they have for $17.50 might be over really soon so I'll buy it right away.
-Mosh
Galaxy Nexus is penta-band 3G phone...so the HSPA version will work on that network.
You're ok with it,enjoy the phone.
inoplanet said:
Galaxy Nexus is penta-band 3G phone...so the HSPA version will work on that network.
You're ok with it,enjoy the phone.
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Are you sure? I don't mind having slow speeds (HSPA) but my budget is really low and I really want to make sure that the phone will work with Mobilicity out of the box
Yes it will work. Relax
AllBlaxx said:
Yes it will work. Relax
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Thanks, but could anyone point me to specifications for the galaxy nexus which tells me what frequencies or radios they use? I'm really bad at this kind of stuff
Thanks again all
Even though you would have a hard time finding any GSM/UMTS/HSPA network it doesn't work on you could always check the list on Wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UMTS_networks#Americas
It says Mobilicity uses the same frequencies as T-Mobile US, a frequency that is both listed in the official specs and is something some people is already using it on without issues.
mohitrocks said:
I don't mind having slow speeds (HSPA)
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This statement makes me shiver for some reason
gambiting said:
This statement makes me shiver for some reason
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Compared to HSPA+?
Edit: So the Galaxy Nexus works with 1700 band IV (AWS)? http://imgur.com/NJrCK
Edit2: So, according to http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_nexus-4219.php, the galaxy nexus has the following:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
So Mobilicity definitely supports this?
Edit 3: According to a Wikipedia page on Mobilicity:
"Network
The company also has a cell-site sharing agreement with Bell Mobility to share cell tower space in all Mobilicity zones[12]. The network uses the UMTS IV frequency band, also known as AWS, to provide UMTS (with HSPA) service[13]. Using this band, user equipment transmits at 1710–1755 MHz, and receives at 2110–2155 MHz. AWS is the same frequency as Wind Mobile and Videotron in Canada and T-Mobile USA. Like WIND, Mobilicity does not have a 2G, EDGE, GPRS GSM Network.
Mobilicity's network is compatible with the same handsets and devices as Wind Mobile and Videotron networks, and UMTS handsets and devices offered by T-Mobile USA.
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So is the Galaxy Nexus a UMTS handset that works with T-Mobile USA?
Thanks again guys, sorry for being a complete noob
mohitrocks said:
Compared to HSPA+?
Edit: So the Galaxy Nexus works with 1700 band IV (AWS)? http://imgur.com/NJrCK
Edit2: So, according to http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_nexus-4219.php, the galaxy nexus has the following:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
So Mobilicity definitely supports this?
Edit 3: According to a Wikipedia page on Mobilicity:
"Network
The company also has a cell-site sharing agreement with Bell Mobility to share cell tower space in all Mobilicity zones[12]. The network uses the UMTS IV frequency band, also known as AWS, to provide UMTS (with HSPA) service[13]. Using this band, user equipment transmits at 1710–1755 MHz, and receives at 2110–2155 MHz. AWS is the same frequency as Wind Mobile and Videotron in Canada and T-Mobile USA. Like WIND, Mobilicity does not have a 2G, EDGE, GPRS GSM Network.
Mobilicity's network is compatible with the same handsets and devices as Wind Mobile and Videotron networks, and UMTS handsets and devices offered by T-Mobile USA.
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So is the Galaxy Nexus a UMTS handset that works with T-Mobile USA?
Thanks again guys, sorry for being a complete noob
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I already said so, yes. Should be no problem. My mention of T-Mobile US was only if you wanted to know actual users who are already running it on those frequencies.
Yes, it's a UMTS handset that works with T-Mobile USA. I don't know how I can make it any clearer.
EDIT: Well, to clarify it a bit more I can say that HSPA (HSDPA and HSUPA) HSPA+ are improvements upon UMTS. In other words, every HSPA device is a UMTS device.
blunden said:
I already said so, yes. Should be no problem. My mention of T-Mobile US was only if you wanted to know actual users who are already running it on those frequencies.
Yes, it's a UMTS handset that works with T-Mobile USA. I don't know how I can make it any clearer.
EDIT: Well, to clarify it a bit more I can say that HSPA (HSDPA and HSUPA) HSPA+ are improvements upon UMTS. In other words, every HSPA device is a UMTS device.
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Perfect, thanks so much!Also, according to other websites it has UTMS 1700/2100 or HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 or Network (3G) HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 so basically it will work for sure right?
Sorry for repeatedly asking the same thing, I just want to be sure. One more yes, and I'm going to change the order from 3 year term to unlocked
mohitrocks said:
Perfect, thanks so much!Also, according to other websites it has UTMS 1700/2100 or HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 or Network (3G) HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 so basically it will work for sure right?
Sorry for repeatedly asking the same thing, I just want to be sure. One more yes, and I'm going to change the order from 3 year term to unlocked
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How many different ways do we have to say this? It has quadband GSM and pentaband 3G, if you put in a North American SIM in the phone, it will work.
Hi,
I was looking fot the specs at gsmarena and it says that is HSDPA 850/1700/2100 capable, but in another sites, they said that is only 1700/2100.
Can someone confirm me that please.
Thanks.
The phone`s box states it is HSDPA 850/1700/1900/2100 capable. I know data works with At&t, so it has either 850 or 1900 HSDPA frequency but i am not sure if it has both or either one.
gkaradag11 said:
The phone`s box states it is HSDPA 850/1700/1900/2100 capable. I know data works with At&t, so it has either 850 or 1900 HSDPA frequency but i am not sure if it has both or either one.
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The Thing is that Im from Claro Dominican Republic, and is only HSDPA 850, I really need to be sure in order to buy the phone.
Thanks.
Well as long as it is on the box, we should rely on that info. You should not have any problems IMO.
it does work it's been proven already by many that has travelled to Europe on 850
actually most of the Europe is on 2100, of course it depends on the carrier but like 60% of the Europe is on 2100.
In the development thread DooMLoRD mentioned that the phone comes in two versions. There seems to be confilicting info about this. I have seen sites say it is quad band HSDPA and there is not 2 different models and only the lt26i. I would like to import to the USA and use on ATT 3g. It looks like the lt26i will work on att 3g. Below is the info listed in the development section of the site.
Model number:
The Xperia S has model number as LT26 and has two models LT26i and LT26a. They differ in the spectrum of frequencies supported for 3G/WCDMA http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_s-4369.php
LT26i - HSDPA 900 / 2100
LT26a - HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100
The items passing the fcc was the LT26i and it was listed at quad band UMTS/HSDPA
https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas...alledFromFrame=N&application_id=917709&fcc_id
It is also mentioned in this engadget article
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/27/sony-xperia-s-jogs-past-the-fcc-carrying-plenty-of-atandt-t-mobi/
I've pre-ordered the Xperia S LT26i from here. If you scroll down a bit and switch to the specification tab you'll see this:
GSM/GPRS Yes
Frequencies 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
Speed GPRS up to 86kbps, EDGE up to 237 kbps
3G/HSPA Yes
Frequencies 850/900/1900/2100 MHz
Speed HSDPA Up to 14.4Mbps, HSUPA Up to 5.8Mbps
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It seems like it supports both frequencies... It'll surly work in Europe right? I live in Israel using Cellcom, I hope it'll work fine.
I am wondering the same thing too!
I live in Canada and I want to get this phone but I know Canada will be the last to get it.
Is the ' i ' version going to work for me in Canada?
Please help!
Thank you.
check the Xperia S whitepaper
http://dl-www.sonymobile.com/cws/download/1/105/035/2/1327908899/Xperia_S_WP_2.pdf
"LT26i UMTS HSPA 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1900 (Band II),
2100 (Band I)
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900"
so it's safe to say there is going to be only one version?
if so, I will order my Xperia S and start using it in Canada!!
From what I have seen for the last three months, only one version which is quad band. Today I ordered one from ebay shipping from Hong Kong and I should be receiving it next week sometimes around Thursday. I will report back once I have it.
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for people interested, this is the place I ordered it from http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sony-Ericsson-Xperia-S-LT26i-Unlocked-12mp-32GB-Android-Phone-White?item=150770279921&cmd=ViewItem&_trksid=p5197.m185&_trkparms=algo%3DRPSI%252BSIC.NPJS%26itu%3DUCP%252BUA%252BMAGEXP%252BI%26otn%3D12%26pmod%3D190644185862%26po%3DLPV%252BLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D6745036511139896139#ht_3032wt_1396
wing_zero8556 said:
check the Xperia S whitepaper
http://dl-www.sonymobile.com/cws/download/1/105/035/2/1327908899/Xperia_S_WP_2.pdf
"LT26i UMTS HSPA 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1900 (Band II),
2100 (Band I)
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900"
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This.
White paper clearly states HSPA 850/1900 is included. And FWIW GSMArena corrected the specifications page to reflect this http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_s-4369.php
LaughinGoh said:
so it's safe to say there is going to be only one version?
if so, I will order my Xperia S and start using it in Canada!!
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I have ordered one from Clove in the UK. It should be shipped Mon or Tue.
I will report back once I either trim down my SIM card or buy a micro SIM.
I am on Telus now running an unlocked generic Xperia Arc.
Cheers
I can confirm it is a quad band. It supports UMTS/HSPA Bands 1/2/5/8. See screenshot from my service menu.
PS: the phone is unbelievably awesome.
I know this thread is old.. but my xperia s only gets edge internet conection..! D: No 3g at all! I'm in Bolivia btw. With "a" versions of other xperia phones I was able to get 3g internet connection.. why is this happening?
The 'a' and the'i' signify different versions of Baseband. The baseband determines which 3g network you connect to ! Make sure you pick up the right instrument otherwise you wont be able to connect to 3G. Google "3G baseband" + your Country and then see which model, the a or the i supports that baseband Wrong baseband => No 3g
Hey all. I am looking to purchase a galaxy s 3. Would a t mobile galaxy work over seas or do I need an international one? Thanks.
Yes, it will work. The T-Mobile S III has quad-band GSM/EDGE/HSPA+ support.
So in that case id be better off buying one out of contract and using one of the Korean providers when I go over seas? Do you know if the international one would work?
thegameksk said:
So in that case id be better off buying one out of contract and using one of the Korean providers when I go over seas? Do you know if the international one would work?
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Either version will work. Both are quad-band GSM/EDGE/HSPA+. The difference is that the T-Mobile version supports 1700 MHz HSPA+, while the international version ditches that, and supports 900 MHz HSPA+ instead.
aNYthing24 said:
Either version will work. Both are quad-band GSM/EDGE/HSPA+. The difference is that the T-Mobile version supports 1700 MHz HSPA+, while the international version ditches that, and supports 900 MHz HSPA+ instead.
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What exactly does 1700 MHz HSPA+ and 900 MHz HSPA mean??? Everything ive found says GSM phones dont work but those were outdated by a few years. Did GSM phones just start working there recently?
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Yes, it will work. The T-Mobile S III has quad-band GSM/EDGE/HSPA+ support.
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You mean it's penta-band has the extra aws band and it should work in korea if they use the same bands like europe
htc fan89 said:
You mean it's penta-band has the extra aws band and it should work in korea if they use the same bands like europe
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It's not penta-band. It doesn't have 900 MHz HSPA+ support.
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What exactly does 1700 MHz HSPA+ and 900 MHz HSPA mean??? Everything ive found says GSM phones dont work but those were outdated by a few years. Did GSM phones just start working there recently?
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Those are just bands that the phones support. And GSM is a world standard, it should work in Korea, and HSPA+ should work too as it supports the 2100 MHz band.
Wifi calling is an option too.
So AT&T's website finally has the Note II listed, I noticed it only lists it having Tri-Band 3G (850/1900/2100 MHz) as well as the FM Radio not being listed as a feature. You guys think this is just AT&T software disabling the extra band and the radio or what? I'm kind of disappointed as I was hoping AT&T wouldn't be gimping the Note this time around...
It lists LTE right at the top of the specs.
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All of ATT phones have always been tri-band 3G, what are you complaining about again?
I have the AT&T Note II. How do I check for the FM radio?
I believe there would be an FM Radio app in the app drawer.
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Guys what I'm saying is that the AT&T Note II doesn't support Quad-Band 3G like the international does. I thought they were all supposed to be the same across carriers.
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Guys what I'm saying is that the AT&T Note II doesn't support Quad-Band 3G like the international does. I thought they were all supposed to be the same across carriers.
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The att one supports LTE, international doesn't. How is that the same?
They are the same as far as CPU, ram, GPU etc. Not radios.
AT&T Note II Specs
I copied these specs, off AT&T'S premier site.
Specifications
Dimensions: 3.17 x 5.95 x 0.37 inches
Weight: 6.35 ounces
Display: 5.5-inch; 1280 x 720 HD Super AMOLED(TM) (264 ppi); 16 million colors
Device eco-rating: 5 Stars. Visit www.att.com/ecospace for additional information.
Operating System: Android(TM)
Processor: 1.6GHz quad-core
Battery: 3100 mAh (removable)
Talk Time: Up to 15 hours
Standby Time: Up to 12.5 days
Technology: GSM/GPRS/EDGE/UMTS/LTE*
Frequency: GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900MHz; UMTS: 850/1900/2100MHz; LTE:* Bands 4 and 17
Data Transmission: 4G
Internal Memory: Up to 16GB
External Memory Card: microSD(TM) up to 64GB (removable)
Near Field Communication (NFC): S Beam (Open)
TTY Compatible
Hearing Aid (HAC) rating: M3
*Limited 4G LTE availability in select markets. 4G speeds not available everywhere. LTE is a trademark of ETSI.
Seems to have all the GSM bands!
antiochasylum said:
The att one supports LTE, international doesn't. How is that the same?
They are the same as far as CPU, ram, GPU etc. Not radios.
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I feel stupid now... I swear I though the International model had LTE for once.
KosanRio said:
I feel stupid now... I swear I though the International model had LTE for once.
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not US..
KosanRio said:
I feel stupid now... I swear I though the International model had LTE for once.
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The N7105 does have LTE, but it doesnt support AT&T bands. The N7100 does not have LTE. Both versions are international.
So you were correct in thinking - don't feel stupid
There are 4 versions of Note:
1. International (+LTE): SGH-7100 / SGH -7105
2. SGH-i317 : ATT+(Rogers+Bell + Telus): HSPA 850/900/1900/2100, LTE: 700/850/1700/1900
3. SCH-i605 : CDMA + LTE 700
4. SGH-T889 : T-Mobile+Mobilicity+Wind : HSPA: 850/900/1700/1900/2100, LTE: 700, 1700
These are from FCC filings
EDIT: I posted about it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1956264
T-Mobile's variant seems to be the better choice even if you are on AT&T based on the FCC filings anyway
According to GSM arenas review of the GN2 there isn't one!
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blognc said:
I have the AT&T Note II. How do I check for the FM radio?
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how? how do you have the phone ???
ianwardell said:
how? how do you have the phone ???
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He got it at the NYC launch event on the 24th. Nice to have press credentials.
ZedZardoz said:
He got it at the NYC launch event on the 24th. Nice to have press credentials.
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Lucky guy! Ill be waiting like the rest of us ,and a bit longer ...I want to make sure there are no bugs like my tf201 has lol.
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Hopefully AT&T didn't hardware disable the FM radio or something...
Anyone know where the FM radio is usually integrated on phones now a days? didn't it used to be part of the Bluetooth chip on smartphones?
Funk2641 said:
All of ATT phones have always been tri-band 3G, what are you complaining about again?
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There are 4 versions of Note:
1. International (+LTE): SGH-7100 / SGH -7105
2. SGH-i317 : ATT+(Rogers+Bell + Telus): HSPA 850/900/1900/2100, LTE: 700/850/1700/1900
3. SCH-i605 : CDMA + LTE 700
4. SGH-T889 : T-Mobile+Mobilicity+Wind : HSPA: 850/900/1700/1900/2100, LTE: 700, 1700
These are from FCC filings
EDIT: I posted about it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1956264
T-Mobile's variant seems to be the better choice even if you are on AT&T based on the FCC filings anyway
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Some info in this thread is just plain contradiction. For example, the above two quoted posts contradict to each other. Is AT&T tri-band or quad-band UMTS after all?
It comes down to what to believe, because FCC filings contradicts to what people say and what cellphone website says. For example, phonearena lists the band specs of i-317 as this:
GSM 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz / UMTS 850, 1900, 2100 MHz / LTE 700 MHz Class 17, 1700/2100 MHz
Here, i-317 is quad-band GSM and tri-band 3G (not what FCC filing says).
Also, the website lists T889 as this:
GSM 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz / UMTS 850, 1700/2100, 2100 MHz / NO LTE
Here, T889 has 3G 850, AWS, 2100, which also is not what FCC filing says, besides there is no LTE support.
Some information here has got to be misinformation, but which one is it?
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Some info in this thread is just plain contradiction. For example, the above two quoted posts contradict to each other. Is AT&T tri-band or quad-band UMTS after all?
It comes down to what to believe, because FCC filings contradicts to what people say and what cellphone website says. For example, phonearena lists the band specs of i-317 as this:
GSM 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz / UMTS 850, 1900, 2100 MHz / LTE 700 MHz Class 17, 1700/2100 MHz
Here, i-317 is quad-band GSM and tri-band 3G (not what FCC filing says).
Also, the website lists T889 as this:
GSM 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz / UMTS 850, 1700/2100, 2100 MHz / NO LTE
Here, T889 has 3G 850, AWS, 2100, which also is not what FCC filing says, besides there is no LTE support.
Some information here has got to be misinformation, but which one is it?
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I agree on the contradiction for sure, what FCC tested vs what is being listed are different. The OP I had had the links to the FCC filings as well but I guess they we against the rules because mods removed the links.
Ye I wasn't giving doubt on the credibility of your source. It's just that i'm kind of confused by all kinds of information. Both phonearena and pdadb (checked just now) shows that T889 has no LTE support and even more interesting, pdadb lists i317 as quad-band UMTS, which phonearena lists as tri-band... I know it sounds like a nerd but it's driving me crazy as I'm doing research and decide on which version to get LOL
For now, I guess I'll only need to know if it's ever possible to flash N7100 rom onto i317 or T889, if not, i'm giving up LTE and stay with faster/earlier European OTA updates, like *DBT* :good: