[Q] Wipe, roms, nandroid backup - Samsung Galaxy Nexus

Hi.
As you know the GNexus not support USB mass storage for the PC and using other programs like WebSharing and derivatives, however if the content is on a partition, to make us root and install some roms, some of them make wipe of all system data, cache etc and others are recommended to do so.
Similarly, any nandroid backup from the recovery that we also remain in the same partition as the system, and if we try to do a rom wipe, erase it as photos, pdfs, backup programs and data made with titaniun.
Having another partition or a separate memory unit at least in my other phones gave me the chance to test any rom without danger, and convinced that if the left and restoring applications from titanium, if he had any mess, and follow nandroid restored.
You can also pass the backup to the PC, but of course if you have a few photos, copies of programs and a minimum backup nandroid are jig and a half or two, imagine that I also have 4 gigs of music, two or three games that have and each 500 megabytes of data (as well as saved games), you can turn on the pc backup about 8 GB
That is the most important reason for me to pull back to buy the Nexus, in that aspect as I see now that the iphone, when you install new ios version deletes the entire system and restore it from itunes to your backup program. In my view can be a long delay in testing the roms, when in 10 min could install Rom and change it if you did not like, add all of this theorizing, that even I have no nexus Galaxy and I have not seen any commentary (then there is much troll loose) of chefs who are handling the issue, we can see if any clarification.
thanks

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[Q] What should be backed up in Amon RA nandroid backups?

I recently upgraded my Amon RA to the latest build (2.3)
I like all the new choices but I'm confused about what I should be backing up when making a Nandroid.
I made one that backed these parts up:
[x] boot
[x] system
[x] data
[x] wimax
Is that good enough? Should I backup recovery too? I understand sd-ext and .android-secure backups will take more space and time to create. But are the ones I listed above pretty much the only essential things if I ever need to flash a backup?
yep...
I would make a backup of just wimax, then there would be no need to back it up again.
Depends on your amount of paranoia about being able to recover. I backup my entire phone, including my SD card, prior to flashing any ROM. So far I haven't had any issues recovering. Granted I'm new to rooting and flashing ROMs...so haven't had enough time to really bork things up.
I know my b/u is over kill, but I'd rather spend the few extra minutes getting everything than find out I missed something if I need to recover.
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Rooted, but still stock...for now
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The program is designed to work, if it's not, we have a problem.
You are good to go with your backup scheme.
You don't need to backup WiMax every time. Just back it up once, separately, then backup boot, data, and system regularly.
i have four or five nands on my card that i checked every option for. cant hurt...
Thanks for all the replies guys.
I'll take it all into account and do an "in case of catastrophic data loss" backup (in other words, full on backup, full checks)
And keep it to the OP scheme i had for future backups.
@n00bhackin
I'm the same way. Better safe than sorry.
Yep, wimax is a seperate backup.
Before backup, wipe cache and dalvik cache (reduces size of backup file and forces dalvik to be rebuilt when recovered).
At a bare minimum: boot, system, data
If you use apps2sd, backup .android.secure also unless you want to reinstall some apps.
If you use apps2sd to a ext3 partition on your SD, backup SD:ext for the same reasons above.
If your not sure which apps2sd you are using;
1) check on your SD the folder .android.secure, got apps there then its option 1.
2) if you use dark tremors apps2sd, then you know what it does and you back up option 2.
It would be awesome to have a .ini file on the sd with various defaults already enabled.
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[Q] Lose data with flashing a new rom?

I have several apps and data on my Desire... Currently I am running a MIUI-rom. I already made a backup of the rom... If I decide to flash a new rom, does that mean I will lose all my data, like saves from games and stuff like that?
hi,
so if you dont backup them you will lose them probably
TitatniumBackup can save your user apps + data, so this will not be lost
but system data(wifi spots, contacts, bookmarks, ...) could also be backuped but with care!
if you change the android version most of the system apps change and also if you change rom type it will probably not work.
i can tell you how i do save all my data.
1. i do a complete nandroidbackup (if you want 2 go back from where you came)
2. a Titanium´Backup (sometimes system data could also be restored)
3. i use MyPhoneExplorer to backup my Contacts
4. MyBackup Root, to save my Sms/mms and other stuff (exept from Contact wich are put in the Google Account i like the app
Sounds a little bit much, but most of the apps have advantages at some point but also flaws on a other point!
ps.: yep i know most of them could be stored in the cloud but i like it lokal
I use the Google backup feature when registering my account on first boot.
Last time, all my user apps and data restored, plus wifi profiles, system settings etc (even my wallpaper) were reapplied. I did nandroid and TiBu also but didn't use them at all!
To use this you could nandroid backup, wipe everything, restore and check the options re backup when registering. Then wipe everything again, flash rom of choice, and wait. You may need a reboot for all the changes to take effect!
that kind of datas are stored in SDCard, so if you don't format it, you should not have problems, but always do a backup before flashing

Few questions on using Titanium back up on GNEX.

I've used Titanium to do my back-ups on my old Galaxy Vibrant, so I have a general understanding of how it works. My question is this though, when I did back-ups in the past, they were saved to the SD card (I think), but the GNEX doesn't have an SD card. So if I do a back-up, won't the back-up I just made get erased when I wipe data before flashing a new ROM? Also, what about my pictures, will they get erased? I have hundreds of pictures on my phone, maybe even over 1000 TBH. I don't want to have to reload everything again. And last, does Titanium back-up your progress in games? I seem to remember that it does, but I don't remember for sure.
Any guides out there for doing Titanium back-ups on the Gnex? Why didn't those silly people just give us an sd card slot
ok even though it does not have a physically removable sd card it still does not get wiped when flashing roms and wiping the data cache partition. only if you do a factory data reset from the phone's settings. I've never needed to do that so dont worry i have 1000's of pics too. I'd back em up just in case on your laptop for safe measure though anyways. also when you backup th apps it does not save game progress unless you backup the app's data. then it should save preferences and progress and all that good stuff. Thank me if it helps!!
Ok, another thing I just thought of. After I flash the new ROM and enter my email, the phone is going to start automatically downloading all my apps, obviously I don't want to do that since I'm going to restore them with Titanium. How do I turn off the auto-downloading of apps?
After I flash the new ROM and enter my email, the phone is going to start automatically downloading all my apps
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No it won't. It only restores your apps if you decide to not turn off the "restore my apps and settings" option. It's on by default, simply turn it off after you've entered your Gmail account. It's the next or the second screen after you logged into your Gmail account.
Ok, now my phone doesn't want to mount when I connect it to my computer. It charges, it just won't mount. ftw....
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Ok, now my phone doesn't want to mount when I connect it to my computer. It charges, it just won't mount. ftw....
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Not sure about the mount issue but I will tell you to definitely leave the auto restore on and let the market automatically download your apps after a wipe. You want to do this because it will automatically install the apps where as titanium will take forever and you have to manually tap install. Then once the apps are installed go to titanium and just backup so data only which is you game progress and preferences and such. I found this out the hard way lol
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In my experience, the restore and wipe cache (maybe wipe data too) only clean the system/ or /cache, and leave the sdcard/ untouched. So the data backup by Titanium back-ups should work rightly.
BTW, I have some problem about using Titanium back-ups. If I always want to keep the newest backup of both application and system data, are the any useful script?
Although there's a script could backup the new application that installed after last backup, but what about the new system app/data? Because sometimes I may have change ROM and it will add some new system app/data.
So far, I use the script that backup all the system/application data. But I wonder it may leave duplicate backup to some app, that's the condition I want to avoid.
Any idea?

Backups

How does one do a full backup of their phone? I see no option in twrp for backing up the internal sd card, and i see support for that was removed from cwm back in version 4 ( unless I'm reading this wrong )...
I know I can just copy it off to my pc or what ever, but that's not really a clean solution for doing backup / restores across multiple roms as it will just involve another process and make it so i have got to be at home to swap..
Any solutions?
Depends if your phone is rooted or not, I believe a rooted phone can do more of a "full" backup but what I usually do is backup all my photos and songs with USB to the computer. For SMS apps and app data and system settings and data I personally like two apps - My backup pro and Titanium Backup PRO which requires root. Just visit the apps in the play store to compare. I recommend doing pictures and music manually cause I've had several issues with the backup apps doing my photos as when I restore them they are corrupt

Which is the best app to allow full backup of our device?

Hello, as some of you know, after I used Keis to backup my device, did a factory reset and restored the device, I found that some of the data and files were not backed up. Since Keis cannot do a good job in backing up the device, why do we need Keis? Is there any good app that can do a full backup/clone so that after restoration, the device is like it is before a factory reset? From Helium Wiki, it says that the app does not backup photos nor videos. It also does not backup system files, widgets, device specific apps like s-note or s-memo, contacts, etc.
I usually keep personal things ( documents, photos, etc. ) on the removable SD card, and then use TWRP to do the backing up of the device. Quite frankly, having TWRP backups has saved my bacon many, many times Another option would be Titanium backup, which has been around forever and has a very large user base.
Thanks. By TWRP, do you mean TWRP Manager (ROOT)? I don't know if ROOT means it only works on rooted devices. As far as I heard, Android 4.4.2 on our device does not allow saving on SD card. How do you do that?
Yes TWRP is a replacement recovery which you boot into prior to the OS booting using particular button combination. By loading prior to the operating system it allows for the complete backup of all files (system and all).
Essentially for the best possible outcome with regards to backup and restore it is best to have root which gives you full access to system files for backup and more importantly for restoring which requires the ability to overwrite system files.
One of the reasons I insist on having root on my devices is that I keep a backup of all applications using Titanium Backup such that if I'm ever disatisfied with the way an application update performs (lets say a developer updates their app and the new version has bugs in it) I can always roll back to the prior version if necessary. It's very handy for this purpose.

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