Battery Monitor reporting battery flat even tho fully charged - Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey All,
Already did a search, but nothing came up... so here goes:
I recently switched over to Andida 1800Mah battery, and when i restarted my DHD with the battery already inside, the phone detects it as a flat battery and shuts itself down a while after boot up.
So far the only way to overcome this is to boot the phone while it is charging, then the battery level will be correct..
Also, it happens randomly, as and when it wants to. I know I cant complain when using a non-OEM battery, but from another forum it is also happening to stock batteries.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=518890
Attached is the screenshot from BMW, in it u can see that the lvl goes down to 0% while i attempt to boot it while it's not on charge, then jumps back to 100% when i find a charger and boot it up..
Anyone in the same boat with me? Or knows how to solve this?

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[Q] Instant discharge.

So, I'm on my Evo today, playing a game (Air Strike). My battery is at 93% when I picked the phone up to play, and the phone is plugged in. Suddenly, with no warning what-so-ever, my phone shuts off. Of course a mini-freak out and many "wtf's" ensue. No warning, no signs, even the led went off. I pulled the battery, put it back, then plugged the phone in again. After that it gave me the blinking light indicating the battery was too low to turn on. After a few minutes charging she came back on and battery was at 5%.
How the hell does a battery go from 93% to 0% in less than 5 minutes, and give no warning at all?? Anybody else ever have this problem?
Wow I've have never heard or that happening before. Maybe a glitch in the battery stash? Did it take awhile to charge up to 100%? Can you reproduce the issue again?
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I had this problem with my older phone once. The battery itself may have a problem or your phone is not getting charged properly.
Try These :
1) Try charging the phone overnite from the Wall charger (Not through USB of your computer)
2) If the above does not work, and you have access to another evo battery, then try using that.(try using a friends battery and charger for a day. ) (Ofcourse needless to say the charger and battery must be for Evoonly )
In my case, my phone started working fine again after getting my battery & charger replaced.
Probably shouldn't worry about it too much just yet. Could be something as simple as your battery meter was mis-calibrated. The meter itself is software so it can easily be wrong/off. If it continues you may have a bad battery.
Sounds to me like something is wrong. Did you just get the phone or have you had it?
Idk... The phone had been plugged in for most of the day (hadn't gone anywhere. Lazy day lol) And like I said, the led went completely out as well.
Haven't had the problem again, so we'll see I guess....
Mark_Hardware said:
Idk... The phone had been plugged in for most of the day (hadn't gone anywhere. Lazy day lol) And like I said, the led went completely out as well.
Haven't had the problem again, so we'll see I guess....
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I've seen some posts about the Evo battery shutting off the charge when its being used. Were you using your Evo while it was charging?
If the battery doesn't seem to be giving you percentages that are accurate, you might want to recalibrate your battery.
Common misconceptions sticky (Evo Q&A) said:
Battery recalibration (Thanks to Cyanogen for this and to fachadick for bringing it to my attention).
If you're experiencing higher than normal battery drain, try the following:
1. Charge the phone to full battery; let it keep charging until the battery says it is fully charged. Do not just wait until the light is green, it isn't always fully charged, causing a lot of inaccuracies. (You can check by going to: Settings -> About Phone -> Status -> Battery Level = Full.)
2. Boot to recovery and wipe battery stats.
(To have the most accurate of battery stats, reboot the phone immediately after wiping the battery stats and wait for your ROM to boot completely to the desktop. Once your entire boot is done and you have full access to the phone, go ahead and pull the charger and continue.)
3. Do not charge the phone until after draining the battery completely, resulting in it automatically shutting off. Take out the battery, and keep trying to turn on your phone until it will not turn back on at all.
4. Recharge the phone completely and then use as you normally would.
This is a method that has been proven to work, I am sure there are other ways. My battery lasts longer after doing this and the reading is much more accurate. It might be advisable to do this after every ROM install if you want the most battery life and most accurate battery reading by the phone's software.
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[Q] Not sure if I have found a battery drain bug or what

Something I've discovered recently, and I am not sure I can explain it properly, but here goes...
I am running SRF 1.1.1, I don't believe this is the cause of the problem, but probably something that should be stated.
So running SRF1.1.1, I usually get wonderful battery life. I typically use an external charger and swap out batteries when they get to around 10-15%. This has worked well for me.. For the past few days I got lazy, and just plugged my phone in and left it on my desk to charge, no problem. When the battery is fully charged and I unplug it from the charger, I noticed it was rapidly draining.... I am aware that often when charging via the phone the battery immediately drops to 96% when removed from the charger. So this is normal, but I've noticed that after unplugging from the charger I lose about 10% per hour, when normally it may be 1-2% depending on usage.
To remedy this problem, rebooting seems to fix this issue. I have also had success with the airplane mode toogle. I don't see any odd usages showing up in spare parts, but is there any other way I can test this theory?
Thanks!!
Edit: Wanted to add, that this only seems to happen when using the charger cable with the phone. Swapping batteries does not seem to produce this issue. It is only when the phone is removed from the charger.
I haven't calibrated by battery lately and thats exactly what mine does too, I would stick to the external charger because our phones charge excruciatingly slow unless off. Try calibrating by charging to full while on then turn it off and let it charge more and repeat that a couple times then boot into cwm go to advanced and clear batt stats
Is there an advantage to calibrating a battery if it is not being charged in the phone?
This is the TWS bug mixed with no battery calibration.
socos25 said:
Something I've discovered recently, and I am not sure I can explain it properly, but here goes...
I am running SRF 1.1.1, I don't believe this is the cause of the problem, but probably something that should be stated.
So running SRF1.1.1, I usually get wonderful battery life. I typically use an external charger and swap out batteries when they get to around 10-15%. This has worked well for me.. For the past few days I got lazy, and just plugged my phone in and left it on my desk to charge, no problem. When the battery is fully charged and I unplug it from the charger, I noticed it was rapidly draining.... I am aware that often when charging via the phone the battery immediately drops to 96% when removed from the charger. So this is normal, but I've noticed that after unplugging from the charger I lose about 10% per hour, when normally it may be 1-2% depending on usage.
To remedy this problem, rebooting seems to fix this issue. I have also had success with the airplane mode toogle. I don't see any odd usages showing up in spare parts, but is there any other way I can test this theory?
Thanks!!
Edit: Wanted to add, that this only seems to happen when using the charger cable with the phone. Swapping batteries does not seem to produce this issue. It is only when the phone is removed from the charger.
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similar to what i have been experiencing. i enjoyed great battery life with srf 1.1.0. have a 3500mAh battery that i used to get about 48 hours out of, but now it is averaging around 25-30. i do not have anything but the stock battery to swap with, so i do put it on the charger nightly now. i was planning to recalibrate the battery tonight to see if that cleared things up.
what would be a way to fix the tws bug?
I have noticed this too. It seems to srf seems to not like my extended battery. I am lucky I get a day out of it. I some times will plug it into one of my work computers just to bring the charge up a little and it starts flashing red and discharging this is only on my extended battery not the 2 stock ones I have. I have even tried different kernals to see if that was issue it isn't.
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in looking at battery usage in >settings>about phone>battery use>cell standby i see usually 0-5% tws.
one thing i have noticed, though have not tested is that the screen appears brighter, even at the minimum setting than what i remember from srf 1.1.0

Bought extended battery today how to set up phone?

I was wondering how i would set up my phone. Reset batt stats, longer charge times or something on how to get the best out of the extended 3500 battery. Also any hints or advice?
i have the same one and i just cleared the stats after charging the battery till full.
Sorry bad post delete please. This message just this one lol.
How do I know its full. ? Just over charge it with it on or off?. That's what u wanted to know. And does the percentage become accurate after doing this?. As I understand right now it should only register at 1500 right until the batvstats are chnage and then registers as 3500. And should display % based on that
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i let mine charge until the green light was on, then unplugged and waited for the light to go out and re plugged did that a couple times until light is orange and charged till it was green again. havent had any problems.(knock on wood)
Do you know how long it took for that process? im getting it green now and will do the rest tonight with it being off. I am hoping that it registers the full battery capacity.
I've had very good luck with a $7 Chinese 3500mah from Amazon. I reset my stats through my battery widget but not until weeks after I had the battery. I don't think I was rooted when I first bought it.
The first day I got it I installed it and it showed 66%. I ran it down to 0% which took a pretty long time. Supposedly that's important, several cycles of complete discharge.
I have this docking station that is absolutely worthless as a docking station, but pretty awesome as an external battery charger. I use that to charge it, and sometimes charge it while its in the phone with the stock wall charger. The phone recognizes the %'s pretty close. At first it would drop to 80ish% pretty fast and then be really long between 50-80. Now it seems pretty steady all the way through.
Hmm I never thought to run down a Li-Ion battery due to it not actually having a memory.. Well i got it fully charged and I will see how long it takes to run down.
So I am waiting on how things will go for it lol. Thanks for the help guys. If anyone else has anything else feel free to chip in.
Get the battery monitor widget int he market, go into the settings and make sure you set it for the maH that your battery is, and then try the guide in my signature.
I have had my extended battery for some time now. I don't have BMW and have no history out my battery on my phone. All I did was put the extended battery in, played with the phone like crazy, killed the battery all the way, kept the phone off and charged it until 1 hour after the LED turned green. No issues.
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I'm in the middle of a record setting run right now. This is very unusual. Usually I get 16-24 hours. My battery and EVO seem to have a mind of their own. But when it works it works good. I still struggle with intermittent 'android system' battery problems.

[Q] Phone Charging Question

Problem:
I have been reading as many posts as possible but I haven't come across my exact situation. I apologize if this is posted elsewhere.
I am running a rooted Dinc using CyanogenMod 7.0.3. If I charge the phone while it's powered on, the amber led turns green as soon as the battery indicator hits 100%. However, recently I've noticed that if the battery is close to being full, say 90%, and i power it off to charge it, it actually takes longer for the amber led to turn green. It might take 20-30 minutes longer.
I've also noticed the amber light turn green when the indicator only showed 92%. In trying something different I also noticed that if I charge the phone while it's powered on, then turn the phone off, the led goes amber and takes another 20 minutes to turn green again (I might be accidentally bump charging in this example but I'm not sure).
Attempted Solution:
I've read that a battery recalibration might help. I tried one method that requires the battery to be pulled after a full charge, but my phone won't boot while plugged into the wall if there's no battery. Then I tried booting into recovery, where I found an option to reset the battery stats... which I just did about 5 minutes ago.
I'm going to see how things go tomorrow, but is this normal? Has anyone else experienced these things? Thanks.
Logan176 said:
Problem:
I have been reading as many posts as possible but I haven't come across my exact situation. I apologize if this is posted elsewhere.
I am running a rooted Dinc using CyanogenMod 7.0.3. If I charge the phone while it's powered on, the amber led turns green as soon as the battery indicator hits 100%. However, recently I've noticed that if the battery is close to being full, say 90%, and i power it off to charge it, it actually takes longer for the amber led to turn green. It might take 20-30 minutes longer.
I've also noticed the amber light turn green when the indicator only showed 92%. In trying something different I also noticed that if I charge the phone while it's powered on, then turn the phone off, the led goes amber and takes another 20 minutes to turn green again (I might be accidentally bump charging in this example but I'm not sure).
Attempted Solution:
I've read that a battery recalibration might help. I tried one method that requires the battery to be pulled after a full charge, but my phone won't boot while plugged into the wall if there's no battery. Then I tried booting into recovery, where I found an option to reset the battery stats... which I just did about 5 minutes ago.
I'm going to see how things go tomorrow, but is this normal? Has anyone else experienced these things? Thanks.
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The kernel and the hardware charge it in different ways. That's why there are differences. DInc is famous for ending charging before the battery reads full. There's already a thread on that. there's not much point in getting hung up on how that thing charges. Be glad yours isn't like mine; a battery that discharges faster than it charges. Seriously.
loonatik78 said:
The kernel and the hardware charge it in different ways. That's why there are differences. DInc is famous for ending charging before the battery reads full. There's already a thread on that. there's not much point in getting hung up on how that thing charges. Be glad yours isn't like mine; a battery that discharges faster than it charges. Seriously.
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Before I had a fast charge kernel (thanks Chad!) Using GPS with the stock VZW car charger, my battery would go down while it was on the charger!
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On AOSP roms, the LED will turn green at 90% and charge slower from 90%-100%. Perfectly normal, and I think on any rom it will charge slowly from 90%-100% to protect the battery.
The battery will charge further when you turn the phone off, what you described is what's known as bump charging. If you do this, you should notice a slower drop from 100%-90% than usual, because the battery is charged to a "true" 100%. When the phone is on and charging (above 90%), it simply keeps the battery above 90% even if it says it's fully charged, and this is why the inc is notorious for the quick 100%-90% drop.
If you do a bump charge and then clear the battery stats and use the battery calibration app will you need to bump charge again or will it know what the true 100% capacity is and keep the droid lasting longer. Not noticing much of a diffrence when i went from 1300 battery to a 1500. May get a bigger batter that'll fit the stock battery door cause I'm trying to get the best battery life i can get.
Thanks guys, I appreciate the help. I think something else that has thrown me off is that before I rooted the phone I wasn't able to see the actual battery percentage in numbers... all I could see was the battery icon. Things are now making more sense.
After recalibrating my battery I bump charged the other day and I was able to get almost 2 days out of my phone on light usage. Without bumping, I was able to end my day yesterday at 50% under my normal usage. Which is a noticeable improvement. Normally I end the day with about 10-20%. The big test will be once I go back to work next week. The cell reception is real spotty in my classroom, which I know makes the cell radio work harder.
Thanks again.
I found a lot of answers I was having about battery charging in this thread:
Your battery gauge is lying to you (and it's not such a bad thing)

Htc Desire Shuts down at 40-50% battery

Hey guys,
Assuming you have read the title there is something weird about my phone.
It shuts down at 40-50% battery (before it shutsdown it says empty battery briefly and then the htc flash screen appears and shutsdown).
The weird thing is the following:
It shuts down at let's say 40% battery, but when it re boots the battery is litterly empty (even when i boot in recovery it says --%, and when i plug the charger it starts at 0% again).
I have tried:
Battery Calibrator
Empty full fill up with wall charger and also tried usb charger.
Screaming @ phone
wiping battery data in recovery (4ext recovery)
The thing i am most confused about is that it goes out at 40% and when i turn it on again it's 0%. This never happened as it happened for the first time 2 weeks ago, confused. I tried different roms and it still happens (even ICS roms).
I wouldn't really mind if my phone would shut down at say 20% when it says actually it's @ 20. But as i said before: It says it's 40 (batterij indicator htc sense half full) and then shutsdown realizing after reboot it's completely empty.
Any help is much appreciated!
Mendel
Shutting down on let's say 15-20% is quite normal, but I never heard of one shutting down at 40%
Are you using the stock battery, that came with your device?
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA
Any chance to try another battery? Seems really strange cause in most cases if you wipe battery stats you get your phone shutdown at 20%, not 50%.
Its most likely a bad battery that needs to be replaced specially if tue same thing happens when using a different rom.
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Yeah i know it seems so weird that's why i started this thread.
Before i buy a new battery:
What could be the cause that the phone goes out at 40% (or 30) and when it reboots it's empty.
Seems like the phone or the battery aren't in "sync" until it reboots to show it's empty.
Any tips or suggestions?
Thanks!
mendelmusic said:
Yeah i know it seems so weird that's why i started this thread.
Before i buy a new battery:
What could be the cause that the phone goes out at 40% (or 30) and when it reboots it's empty.
Seems like the phone or the battery aren't in "sync" until it reboots to show it's empty.
Any tips or suggestions?
Thanks!
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I'd like to think of it similar to laptop batteries that have gone bad... you plug your laptop to it's power supply, it says fully charged but as soon as you pull it out from it's power supply it drops to 50% in minutes and then goes off. The battery cannot hold the charge anymore.
It can only mean that the battery's life is at an end. The only thing you can do is to change it. I suggest that you stick to original HTC battery as the "ChinaMade" ones will die a lot faster and you'll have to change it sooner than this one.
Regards.
Pushu.X
Hey guys!
I know this thread is started since several months but I actually have the same problem : I have a HTC Desire and its shuts down at about 50% and when I reboot it, it says the battery is empty.
I tried several times to recalibrate the battery (and to do all the things MendelMusic said in his post actually) but nothing changed.
MendelMusic, did you finally manage to solve your problem?
Anybody have a solution or any ideas?
Thanks!
FreakyC said:
Hey guys!
I know this thread is started since several months but I actually have the same problem : I have a HTC Desire and its shuts down at about 50% and when I reboot it, it says the battery is empty.
I tried several times to recalibrate the battery (and to do all the things MendelMusic said in his post actually) but nothing changed.
MendelMusic, did you finally manage to solve your problem?
Anybody have a solution or any ideas?
Thanks!
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Mine used to shut off around 32%. This forum fixed this issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24599586
Battery drain?
It's called battery drain. I have it too, but only at 10/20%?
If someone knows a fix, please send it to me
AW: Htc Desire Shuts down at 40-50% battery
Probably your batteries are just weak now. I'd recommend you all to invest 5 bucks in a new battery. Actually that helped at my old desire. Greetings
Thanks for your answers!
I tried the link of madreef and it didn't change. I will try again, maybe I did it wrong (hope it will work this time...)
@dschibril : I don't think my battery is weak because the problem occured as soon as I changed the ROM (CM10). The battery was perfectly ok before that.
battery drain
FreakyC said:
Thanks for your answers!
I tried the link of madreef and it didn't change. I will try again, maybe I did it wrong (hope it will work this time...)
@dschibril : I don't think my battery is weak because the problem occured as soon as I changed the ROM (CM10). The battery was perfectly ok before that.
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Hello, I have the same problem with you. Did you manage to fix it and how? Have you tried a brand new battery so far?
It has to do with the Desire's poor battery age management system. Li-Ion batteries age, meaning that, as time passes, they're gonna be able to hold less and less milliamps. After almost two years, my Desire's battery can only hold 82% of the original ~1400 mA charge.
The only way around this is to use the Nexus One Battery Calibrator (Nexus One and our Desire share the same hardware underneath the hood). You'll need a compatible kernel and some patience. Instructions in this post.
My 2 cents: if your battery is only able to hold less than say 75%-80% of its original charge, then you should replace it. Li-Ion batteries age in such a way that they suddenly go dead, so it's not worth taking the risk.
Later Edit - If your Desire shuts down at say 40% - 50%, that means that your battery is 40% or 50% gone, so it's time for a replacement. I'd still try the battery calibration method i wrote about in the above post, just to determine if it's a freak software error or the battery's fault.
P.S. - Wiping battery stats does nothing to solve most issues (for the Desire, at least).
My phone turns off sometimes at 50%, sometimes at 80% of battery.
I have new battery now (original one) and it is the same. Phone turns off, only when it is connected to charger it does not.
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My hTC Desire 728 shut down when then battery showing 50% to 60% in charge. What is the remedies?

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