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He friends - when the first Touch came out I bought it and was so unsatisfied ref. the keyboard that I changed the device - also because the perforamce was pretty slow
Let me ask you - is the No. 2 now faster and much better ???
Hi,
The touch-pro 2 has some hardware improvements, but none concerning it's speed. The software that's delivered by HTC is further optimized and is a lot faster. Also the version of the processor that's included has changed in the TD2 & TP2. This probably means that the processor has been more optimized too.
I expect the TP2 to be faster in use, because of the new well working software (Shell). Next to that, it will be easier to work with because of the bigger screen.
About the keyboard, looking at some video's about pre-releases of the phone, every reviewer says the keyboard is one of the best ever. I haven't seen any lag when people were typing.
I think normal all-day use (agenda, mail, phone, sms, etc) will be faster and more accessible. But gaming, or other 3th party software that requires a lot of horsepower,....... Just don't expect the TP2 to be a lot better/faster. But then again, htc targets the bussines world.
I suggest you look into other topics and look for reviews (youtube: touch-pro2 review), so you can see for yourself.
I'm upgrading from my Hermes . The reason why I won't wait for other 1 gigz phones? Playing 3d games, just won't work on phones cause of the louzy controls and little screen. Other than that, I can't think of reasons why I would want a 1 Gighz phone. Battery will be empty faster and it will take a year before the new processors will be fully optimized. (not to think of the heat the new processors will make)
quarintus said:
The touch-pro 2 has some hardware improvements, but none concerning it's speed. The software that's delivered by HTC is further optimized and is a lot faster.
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Specifically, the drivers are believed to have been improved to address some graphics hangups. It's hard to know what any particular user means when they complain about performance.
If, peter, you're referring to the TF3D interface, you'll probably be pleased. There are a ton of video previews out there on youtube now, so head on over and watch it in action. Those videos are the next best thing to actually using one.
So what could your advice be - to wait for the new toshiba with th ebig display, take the diamond 2 or the touch 2 ???
THANKS a lot
peter7 said:
So what could your advice be - to wait for the new toshiba with th ebig display, take the diamond 2 or the touch 2 ???
THANKS a lot
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Depends, what kind of user you are.
What kind of phone do you have now? Is it with an hardware keyboard and do you message a lot?
What do you do with you current phone? What do you like, what do you miss?
Do you put you phone in you pocket?
I'm also getting the touch pro2 because there aren't going to be many other phones with an hardware keyboard in the near future. As for only touchscreen phones, I would wait. There are comming a lot new phones in the near future.
If you have a fairly recent phone (touch pro 1 for example) I also would wait for a new phone. That's because new phones keep comming and I don't have the money to keep buying new phones.
(as for the slow touch pro 1, try some home cooked roms from this site. There are probably some real fast ones in the tp1 forum).
Does touch pro2 have an hardware keyboard ???
Actually I`m using again my Xperia...
peter7 said:
Does touch pro2 have an hardware keyboard ???
Actually I`m using again my Xperia...
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I'm happy to help and inform you, but at least google the phone before asking a question.
Go to HTC.com and go to the HTC touch pro2 page. You'll see all hardware specs.
It costs me and you less time
You mean this one
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=search&quick=1
But it will cme in June or is it already on the market ?
peter7 said:
You mean this one
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=search&quick=1
But it will cme in June or is it already on the market ?
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No I meant this one :
http://www.htc.com/uk/product/touchpro2/overview.html
But just saw, this info isn't available in the US. So sorry (the webpage I've given is the UK version)
it will be on the market in june. the release dates differ per country. In western europe it will be Junu 5 or 12.
In amerika it also can be July, but I expect end June
Hi there,
I´m an old time kaiser user, and Im currently planning to replace it with a Touch Pro or Touch Pro 2.
Basically, I have found out that both phones are "the same"... is that right ? Are there any important differences between the TP and the TP2 ?
Im looking for a sturdy phone. The kaiser is well and alive after almost 2 years using it, but... I think that if the rhodium is all out silver plastic, I think it is more susceptible to scratching and such...
Oh well... any opinions would be helpful.
Tia
I just bought my touch pro2 last week and have been overjoyed with it, save for a couple of issues regarding battery life. You can check these out in the 'got mine' thread in this subforum.
To better compare these two, head on to youtube and check out the touch pro VS touch pro2 video from pocketnowvideo. to summarise some of the differences -
1. touch pro2 has a bigger screen, 3.6 inches
2. tp2 has a higher resolution, 480 x 800, tp is 480 x 640.
3. improved TouchFLO 3D interface, it's almost perfect now.
there are other differences, so i suggest you check out the youtube video, or head on to www.pocketnow.com and check out their review of the TP2.
StealthNet said:
Hi there,
I´m an old time kaiser user, and Im currently planning to replace it with a Touch Pro or Touch Pro 2.
Basically, I have found out that both phones are "the same"... is that right ? Are there any important differences between the TP and the TP2 ?
Im looking for a sturdy phone. The kaiser is well and alive after almost 2 years using it, but... I think that if the rhodium is all out silver plastic, I think it is more susceptible to scratching and such...
Oh well... any opinions would be helpful.
Tia
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If $ is not a problem I would go for TP2 definetly.
It´s a fact that technology is making devices everyday more easyly replaceble...
OMG OMG OMG!!! I couldn´t wait!!! I just bought it!!!
Really really anxious!!!!
Good Move! Let us know how U like the new toy...
I have all mentioned devices and Rhodium is really the best!
Rhodium for sure
still own a Raphael but the Rhodium owns his little brother
far more intergrated menu's, landscape touch flo and so on!
even has a own BT app or so to set up bluetooth
i'm very very glad I bought the phone
Just received the tracking number... aaaaaaaarhhh!!!!!!
As per this link the Touch Pro 2 processor is worse than Touch Pro processor.
http://www.pestaola.gr/how-advanced-are-htc-touch-pro2-and-htc-touch-diamond2/
Processor used in Touch Pro2 was released in 2007 90nm (Qualcomm® MSM7200A™, 528 MHz)
Processor used in Touch Pro was released in 2008 65nm (Qualcomm® MSM7201A™ 528 MHz)
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a7200a&c=qualcomm_msm7200a
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a7201&c=qualcomm_msm7201
Not sure why an old processor was used in TP2
I still vote for TP2 .
I was about to post "oh that´s so stupid!" but then I realize.... that in fact it is a smart move from HTC, as stated on the site. They´ll prolly make more money.
Well... at least they´ll have mine...
Got it!
It is so sexyeh!!!! But batt life sux... well, let´s see how it will behave on a normal work day.
I am looking to get a new windows mobile htc phone. Of course its that time of year an my two year contract happends to be up in feburary so im available for a full upgrade. So im just trying to get some advice from the more experienced programmers, developers as to what kind of phone would you recommend? I would like it if they made a phone like the dash 3G but also with touch screen.. Do they make anything like that right now? I have looked at plenty of phones and am leaning towards the HTC touch pro but im iffy...
HTC Touch Pro is a nice phone.. i actually have a link on some right now are you in toronto area ? i can sell you one in brandnew condition just battery and phone no box or accessories but works we just have these phones left in the back we are a SP ppc test company they are coming up for sale. let me know 175$ cnd cash only in person. ?
Vtheme aka touchFlo 3D Pro wannabe lol its great..
on the s621, touch pro tho in my opinion is best hTC pocket Pc to date i think, even nicer looking then the Touch Pro 2.
Long Live the wm 6.5 HTC S621 and Touch Pro.. Best PPC
Na sorry man Im out of Kansas City but you have pretty decent prices but im wantin to buy new in box items. So you would prefer the touch pro or s621.. Is that the same as the dash 3G?
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Na sorry man Im out of Kansas City but you have pretty decent prices but im wantin to buy new in box items. So you would prefer the touch pro or s621.. Is that the same as the dash 3G?
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It's in 10.10 shape was only used 2 charges maybe.. no box ya an anything lol.
I like the S621 cause its keyboard design keys fn.. symbol camera button, IE, and email etc keys are nice i have a Ozone aswell an touch pro but Touch pro is worth getting they rock best design overall and fast and does eveything you want why by a HD when the touch is just as good moreless, still hTCs best looking ppc to date i think. Ozone is a nice phone tho dash 3G is nice a proper hTC Snap : )) touch pro is a wonder for touchflo etc homescreens cabs lots stuff to download to make it do a lot of cool things.
Owning them both i'll make my view:
The s620 is an awesome phone still, but slow processor low on storage and RAM but a nice layout regards smartphone.
CPU:Clock: 201 MHz
RAM_capacity: 64 MiB
ROM-capacity: 128 MiB
Display-Resolution: 320 x 240 (QVGA)
Cellular-Data:Links: CSD, GPRS, EDGE
The Touch Pro is more recent device with better specs and a far easier nicer interface with TF3D also far more programs available.
CPU:Clock: 528 MHz
RAM_capacity: 288 MiB
ROM-capacity: 512 MiB
Display:Resolution: 480 x 640 (VGA)
Cellular_Data_Links: CSD, GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, HSDPA
Now my s620 is used by the gf the Kaiser is sat on my desk (being cooked) & the TouchPro is in my hand
Hope that helps
hey guys
i have htc s621, but am planing to sell it and then get a htc snap (the one with email button, released in march 2009).
could anyone pls recommend if i should keep the dash or get the snap..i read somewhere that the snap isnt good (like some buttons fall off after a period of time).
kachman said:
hey guys
i have htc s621, but am planing to sell it and then get a htc snap (the one with email button, released in march 2009).
could anyone pls recommend if i should keep the dash or get the snap..i read somewhere that the snap isnt good (like some buttons fall off after a period of time).
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I would try an get a HTC Dash 3G as the A key is in a bad spot on the snap especially if you are used to the S621 layout but i would honestly get a HTC Ozone.
turtle1981 said:
I am looking to get a new windows mobile htc phone. Of course its that time of year an my two year contract happends to be up in feburary so im available for a full upgrade. So im just trying to get some advice from the more experienced programmers, developers as to what kind of phone would you recommend? I would like it if they made a phone like the dash 3G but also with touch screen.. Do they make anything like that right now? I have looked at plenty of phones and am leaning towards the HTC touch pro but im iffy...
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just wait a bit and get the HD2
1GH SNAPDRAGON!
Wow I checked out the HD2 an that is an awesome phone but I still may have to go with the touch pro only because of a vast price difference.. But, the HD2 still maybe an option. Its a toss up now, time to draw straws.. LoL.. Thanks..
why it is so slow on version touch pro, and why there are many bugs on verizon?
there is no sound when i run android on my verzion touch pro and when i give a phone call to my friend,i can here what he said,but he can't here what i said?
who can tell me which ROM can solve these peoblems?
liangwode said:
why it is so slow on version touch pro, and why there are many bugs on verizon?
there is no sound when i run android on my verzion touch pro and when i give a phone call to my friend,i can here what he said,but he can't here what i said?
who can tell me which ROM can solve these peoblems?
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i dont think slowness is caused by you service provider...
No dev has a RAPH500 to play with (to my knowledge) and the kernel for the 500 is in the doldrums as a result. Sorry, until someone more knowledgeable about coding that has a 500 steps up, or one of the devs gets their hands on a 500, progress will be slow.
You also realize that VZW crippled their version of the TouchPro right? It's working with something like half the RAM available to the 110's or 800's.
How do I get there?
I've been playing with android on my htc titan and just bought a Raph500 off ebay. How can I help get the raph500 off the ground? According to wikipedia the raph500 has 192MB ram, which should be usable. The HTC titan only has 64, and android almost works. I'd like to learn more. Is that what chef central is all about?
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onecallednick said:
I've been playing with android on my htc titan and just bought a Raph500 off ebay. How can I help get the raph500 off the ground? According to wikipedia the raph500 has 192MB ram, which should be usable. The HTC titan only has 64, and android almost works. I'd like to learn more. Is that what chef central is all about?
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the at&t version (htc fuze) has 288 mbs and i know in WM around 90 mbs are always free. also the htc titan is a much more understood phone on how everything works and is not as complex/ undocumented as the touch pro.
if your asking about chef central its not for you but seriously the people that makes android for wm phone or roms are called "chefs" and their roms are what they "cook" (its like a inside joke) but it is were all the new chefs go to get tools or help from experienced developers (or called devs)
question, if your on verizon, why are you using a touch pro and trying to run an android rom on it, if you want android, you should be using the droid eris, droid, or droid incredible. those are much better options for android on verizon than using a rom to try to run it on a WM phone.
sunshine1982 said:
question, if your on verizon, why are you using a touch pro and trying to run an android rom on it, if you want android, you should be using the droid eris, droid, or droid incredible. those are much better options for android on verizon than using a rom to try to run it on a WM phone.
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If we all used this logic, then this project probably wouldn't exist at all. People are tied to contracts, don't want to buy a new phone, like their TP, for whatever reason... They'd rather run it as a ported project. I will probably get an Android-based device eventually - but until I do it's pretty cool to be able to run Android on my WinMo phone. I'm sure he just feels the same way...
How to install Android 2.2 on my HTC Desire G7 Dual Sim (A8181)?
P.S. Now install Windows Mobile 6.5 Proffesional
Sorry for bad english!
You've got a clone. So no Android for you.
Will have to live with windows.
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You've got a clone. So no Android for you.
Will have to live with windows.
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What is Manila? This soft for Windows Mobile?
Manila or TouchFlo 3d is HTC's Sense user interface for windows mobile.
But in chinese clones it is heavily modified.
Do you really brought that phone?
artukas613 said:
Manila or TouchFlo 3d is HTC's Sense user interface for windows mobile.
But in chinese clones it is heavily modified.
Do you really brought that phone?
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Yes. What should I do?
I was told that he needed the driver worked well.
If you buy it as HTC made Desire you were fooled. Maybe you cant get it back and get back you money?
If not you will have to live with what you got. No Android. Little chance of upgrades. Why?
No comunity like XDA. Chinese phones look the same outside, but different inside.
Desire clones can have different processors, different memory size, different camera and so on.
Can't believe HTC allow this sort of stuff to go on!!
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Can't believe HTC allow this sort of stuff to go on!!
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It's China. Laws does not work there.
artukas613 said:
It's China. Laws does not work there.
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What software shows hardware phone?
Why do you want to know. Its not much use of knowledge that inside. Unless you are very gifted in mobile software development.
I want to know what's inside. Is there support for 3G, memory, processor
Извини. Мы можем говорить по русски?
English forum. My english is better than russian. Besides, no russian letters on my keyboard.
That is a problem with chinese phones. You cant rely on internal software to show correct hardware. Cant rely on chinese websites specs. I googled for few minutes and find it can be 3 different processors, ram/rom from 256 to 576, camera 2, 3, 3.2, 5 mpix., gps, no gps, screen Wvga, hga, amoled, led, lcd, capacitive, resistant. What inside yours?
Maybe search Windows Mobile Development and Hacking forum for some hardware showing software.
Maybe our desire forum members from China can help.
Good luck.
Read (russian forum)
Update HTC Desire G7 Dual sim
What software should I use to update the rom of my G7 Desire Dual sim? I tried different versions of IDT but it fails.
G7 K8181
Hi guys I have managed to copy the raw files from the phone. and insert to a kitchen. Can anyone help me to translate it and generally cook it? If anyone is interested please PM me.
Maybe me...
I have this phone:
HTC Desire (Clone)
Model A8181
Qualcomm Snapdragon 1 GHz
512 MB ROM, 576 MB RAM
3.8 WVGA 800x480
Dual Sim
WM6.5
Only one problem: Optical Trackpad no working.
Maybe with a new ROM can fix this.
HTC Desire clone
This is the phone:
w w w . diytrade.com/china/4/products/7283014/H_T_C_Desire_Larger_Size_Quadband_Dual_Sim_WM6_5_Smart_Phone_G7_A8181L.html
jmrojas said:
I have this phone:
HTC Desire (Clone)
Model A8181
Qualcomm Snapdragon 1 GHz
512 MB ROM, 576 MB RAM
3.8 WVGA 800x480
Dual Sim
WM6.5
Only one problem: Optical Trackpad no working.
Maybe with a new ROM can fix this.
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Hi jmrojas, i have the same phone, and the same problem with de optical trackpad.
I cannot believe that this phone has the hardware button (optical trackball) but that it does not work. I believe that it is a problem of the ROM.
If you find a solution, please tell me. Thanks!!