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Hey there guys,
I've been overclocking and undervolting my phone for a long time now, and this question sort of crossed my mind:
Is it possible in maybe like a form of a log, for the phone to tell you what was the last frequency it was on so that I can precisely tell which frequency is causing the phone to reboot itself?
It's painfully slow to go the slow method, so I'm wondering if there's a less painful way around this.
Thanks in advanced
That actually seems quite useful. Finding stable numbers for undervolting is a pain. +1 on this. Maybe there's something that does this.
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Hey there guys,
I've been overclocking and undervolting my phone for a long time now, and this question sort of crossed my mind:
Is it possible in maybe like a form of a log, for the phone to tell you what was the last frequency it was on so that I can precisely tell which frequency is causing the phone to reboot itself?
It's painfully slow to go the slow method, so I'm wondering if there's a less painful way around this.
Thanks in advanced
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This could be a good place to start even though that it's for Galaxy SII but it will give you the basics http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14973796&postcount=531
Helpful to some extent, but nothing I didn't already know.
The thing is that sometimes unstable voltages don't show themselves after a while, and sometimes when you think it's safe and move on, you only get shot in the back
And then follow yourself as you cry in shame when your phone decides to reboot itself in the middle of a phone call...
With a log that records what was the last frequency change, this becomes easier to track and trace the problemful frequency you see :x
Hy guys I have seen on a noob guide that I can see my phone cpu "stats".
This tells me is my phone a powerfull machine or a bad brick.
So I have installed the faux kernel and with root explorer I came to this t3_variant
/sys/kernel/debug/t3_variant
If your cpu_process_id=
"0"- Sorry, but your in for a world of hurt. I'd recommend only trying out his mainline edition, nothing else.
"1"- Well, you''ll do just fine, but it still sorta shaky. Don't think about overclocking though, unless you're on a beta or VF version
"2"- Knock yourself Out! ;p
"3"- Lock that phone in Fort Knox and, if you see faux lurking around your house, then just run . Jokes aside, your phone can do ANYTHING.
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This is a quote from a Noob Guide - here.
Mine cpu_process_id=0. Does this mean I bought 4500kn (597.32€ - Yes that's the price of HOX in Croatia) brick?
I have problems with battery he shuts down sometimes more like often, is he really that bad and I am angry right now cause I think I bought bad and expensive phone?!
If you need more info I will be glad to post just someone help me please.
LOL, those cpu variants are to be ignored. They are for hard core overclockers.
It has nothing to do with battery life and you do not own a phone shaped brick. I paid the same amount for my HOX.
Well can you tell me why does he act strange all the time. He just shuts down but he doesn't do that when he is on charger. I think I have some serious power issue. I'will give you all logs you ask and all screenshots just help please.
You might want to try another kernel and do a clean reflash of rom.
Give me the kernel reboot log from /proc/last_kmsg.
No need I think I solved the problem. I have now just moved the governor to interactive witch was default "ondemand". He didn't went off for like 6 hours witch is a record and battery is still 50% can't believe. I know I am noob sry for that
You might wanna try sense roms as well. You wouldnt be facing any random reboots issue.
faiz02 said:
You might wanna try sense roms as well. You wouldnt be facing any random reboots issue.
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All those random reboots were on stock jb xD
Oh OK,
Case closed.
Hi all,
Last week I was at home pondering around as I do, when I heard a text come in.
I went to my phone and literally (no exaggeration) could not pick it up.
It was so hot, I had to touch it through my jumper. I unlocked it asap to see if anything was going on.
Low and behold, Facebook was looping into an error. Errors - Closes - Opens - Errors - Closes etc.
Is this something to worry about? Can apps actually cause that much heat?
Phone still functions fine afaik.
I turned it off, and put it in the fridge!! YES THE FRIDGE
I can't explain how hot it was to touch.
Is this specific to facebook?
Is it the error, loop or app that caused it? AND WHY DIDNT MY PHONE STOP WHEN IT WAS OVERHEATING?!?!
Thanks !!
Can you tell the details? The Rom, kernel you are using?
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Totally Stock - Never unlocked never rooted never rommed nothing.
Facebook has received an update since this happened.
But I'm still at odd's as to why my HOX's over-heating safety never kicked in and shut the phone off.
It's like it was trying to melt itself !!
You have something nasty with heat problems these days Mr W ! But yeah the phones security system was supposed to do its job ! Hardware problem that's out in the open now because of a software problem !
I do Hoffman - Nah I'm sorry, Mr.Hofs is better.
But do you think Facebook is to blame? Or the phone for not dealing with it?
And
Should I now be worried about locking my device with an app open? (NEVER LEAVING FACEBOOK OPEN ANYWAY!)
PS - What do you mean "Hardware problem that's out in the open now because of a software problem !" Mr.Hofs?
Well maybe the phone suffered already of this "fault" but it comes now out to the open because your facebook app caused all that trouble !
I can't tell if its a 100% hardware fault or a 100% software fault. I think its a bit of both because the should have shut itself down !
Btw i read a while back that a newer software update caused the phone to overheat a bit while it was on usb charging. That was fixed by updating the windows drivers. If im not mistaken it was hamdir who came with that.
Otherwise a factory reset might do the trick, if it occurs another time.
Cpu will go right up to 99c before it shutdowns.....
Throttles at 85c
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treebill said:
Cpu will go right up to 99c before it shutdowns.....
Throttles at 85c
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I don't think it was that hot.. but surely if a phone reached that temp the plastic would melt?
Plastic melts at around 110 Degrees C ? Isn't 99 cutting it fine?
Mr Hofs said:
Well maybe the phone suffered already of this "fault" but it comes now out to the open because your facebook app caused all that trouble !
I can't tell if its a 100% hardware fault or a 100% software fault. I think its a bit of both because the should have shut itself down !
Btw i read a while back that a newer software update caused the phone to overheat a bit while it was on usb charging. That was fixed by updating the windows drivers. If im not mistaken it was hamdir who came with that.
Otherwise a factory reset might do the trick, if it occurs another time.
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I hope its not hardware, as I'm sure warranty ran out last month... GUTTER.
I'ma find out when Warranty finishes, when thats the case I'ma custom ROM it, see what performance I can get out of it !!
But I'm still at odd's with this.
It never even gets hot for me, but that error-loop was just bonkers haha ! (May factory reset if it occurs again though !!)
Wilks3y said:
I don't think it was that hot.. but surely if a phone reached that temp the plastic would melt?
Plastic melts at around 110 Degrees C ? Isn't 99 cutting it fine?
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well the CPU max temp is 99c meaning you could (in theory) run the chip at 98 c, though it would be throttled but it would be fine however the heat you are feeling is actually the battery heating up, the battery really shouldn't go above 55c, 60c is about it's limit. At 48c the battery reports as overheating and wont charge till it's 47c or below.
I believe gsam battery monitor has alarms you can set to warn you what the battery hits X c (you can set it), its a pretty good app for showing stats about your phone should defo try it out
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well the CPU max temp is 99c meaning you could (in theory) run the chip at 98 c, though it would be throttled but it would be fine however the heat you are feeling is actually the battery heating up, the battery really shouldn't go above 55c, 60c is about it's limit. At 48c the battery reports as overheating and wont charge till it's 47c or below.
I believe gsam battery monitor has alarms you can set to warn you what the battery hits X c (you can set it), its a pretty good app for showing stats about your phone should defo try it out
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Hey, I tried GSAM once and the layout of the app just threw me, didn't like it at all and the terms it uses to explain the data you're looking at isn't good IMO.
I have BBS ad WLD and think that will do for me - Thanks for the advice though.
I'ma keep an eye out and see what happens, I've felt it getting hot in my pocket once or twice, but unlocking the phone, and locking it again seems to make the heat die down. I need to find what may be causing this heat, may not have been the Facebook app alone, but that error was like tipping petrol onto the already burning fire.
Wilks3y said:
Hey, I tried GSAM once and the layout of the app just threw me, didn't like it at all and the terms it uses to explain the data you're looking at isn't good IMO.
I have BBS ad WLD and think that will do for me - Thanks for the advice though.
I'ma keep an eye out and see what happens, I've felt it getting hot in my pocket once or twice, but unlocking the phone, and locking it again seems to make the heat die down. I need to find what may be causing this heat, may not have been the Facebook app alone, but that error was like tipping petrol onto the already burning fire.
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*burns* lol
any app that will show you apps/wake_locks will do. Something is keeping the phone awake making it use the CPU.
if you're rooted you could try underclocking the CPU to 1.3 GHz, undervolting or just simply disabling 2 cores.
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*burns* lol
any app that will show you apps/wake_locks will do. Something is keeping the phone awake making it use the CPU.
if you're rooted you could try underclocking the CPU to 1.3 GHz, undervolting or just simply disabling 2 cores.
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All good advice my friend, but 1 I'm not rooted yet, waiting for warranty to finish. (Silly I know, but never had luck with HTC)
2 - I don't want to under-volt/under-clock.
I've been monitoring and MAPS is my biggest Wakelock.
Disabled the Location settings this morning.
That not the cause of the heat though, I just have a feeling its not.
Thats the only time its really felt dangerously hot to me though !!
PS - Thanks for your replies everyone, much appreciated.
Yeah well i was just thinking out loud, heat problems are not my expertise !
I hope you get it sorted !
Mr Hofs said:
Yeah well i was just thinking out loud, heat problems are not my expertise !
I hope you get it sorted !
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Cheers bud !
Will update if any progress.
Wilks3y said:
All good advice my friend, but 1 I'm not rooted yet, waiting for warranty to finish. (Silly I know, but never had luck with HTC)
2 - I don't want to under-volt/under-clock.
I've been monitoring and MAPS is my biggest Wakelock.
Disabled the Location settings this morning.
That not the cause of the heat though, I just have a feeling its not.
Thats the only time its really felt dangerously hot to me though !!
PS - Thanks for your replies everyone, much appreciated.
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Yeah maps have always made my phone hot, using navigation with gps if you have it on charge will pop up "using more power than being supplied".
If you don't use maps I suggest disabling it.
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treebill said:
Yeah maps have always made my phone hot, using navigation with gps if you have it on charge will pop up "using more power than being supplied".
If you don't use maps I suggest disabling it.
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Problem is I rely on GMAPS and Naivgation, will disabling location services make any difference to me using Sat Nav etc?
If it does, I need it on as SatNav is my saviour.
Wilks3y said:
Problem is I rely on GMAPS and Naivgation, will disabling location services make any difference to me using Sat Nav etc?
If it does, I need it on as SatNav is my saviour.
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its the "GPS satellites" coupled with data transfer and high CPU usage that makes it over heat everyone has this issues im afraid they only real way I've found to stop it from overheating is to disable 2 cores.
treebill said:
its the "GPS satellites" coupled with data transfer and high CPU usage that makes it over heat everyone has this issues im afraid they only real way I've found to stop it from overheating is to disable 2 cores.
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Ahh so I'll still be fine using Navigation then?
Weeeee
Wilks3y said:
Ahh so I'll still be fine using Navigation then?
Weeeee
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Should be, you should try using an offline map (google navigation can save areas of maps) that way you can use just satellites without mobile network.
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I am planning to root my G3 D851. I would to know what is the worst case scenario and will it be fixable? by the way I moved from iphone to G3. I have been jailbreaking my iphone for a while, but in iphone the worst case would be to just restore the device. I bit scared if android would be not fixable.
Main reason for rooting is removing bloatware and fixing heat issue when gaming.
Anything can happen watch videos online over at you tube
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I am planning to root my G3 D851. I would to know what is the worst case scenario and will it be fixable? by the way I moved from iphone to G3. I have been jailbreaking my iphone for a while, but in iphone the worst case would be to just restore the device. I bit scared if android would be not fixable.
Main reason for rooting is removing bloatware and fixing heat issue when gaming.
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G3 has been the easiest root I've ever done. Once you get a Recovery on your phone most things are pretty fixable. You can always pop it in download mode and restore the stock files on it. Not always the easiest thing ever, but usually doable. I Soft Bricked my Galaxy S4 quite a bit and I boot looped the g3 already. Just had to do a reset.
I rooted by device and installed the custom recovery. What are the things should I do in it, especially for reducing the heat on my phone?
There's a fix in dialer to disable thermal monitoring...I guess its buggy? But unless your phone is super hot I wouldn't worry. A little heat isn't that bad.
Make sure you have SuperSU installed though
Naturesretard said:
There's a fix in dialer to disable thermal monitoring...I guess its buggy? But unless your phone is super hot I wouldn't worry. A little heat isn't that bad.
Make sure you have SuperSU installed though
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disabling that would not reduce heat, it increases heat lol. My phone get to 42 degree C battery temp.
As everyone said, this is the easiest root i have done. The most important thing for you to do is read, read, read! Make sure to also read the problems people have been having in order to avoid them. In other words, dont just read the first & second post of the thread, read em all.
raaghul said:
I rooted by device and installed the custom recovery. What are the things should I do in it, especially for reducing the heat on my phone?
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You could try putting something like trickster mod and under clocking the processor so that it doesn't heat up, turn the brightness down, or Greenify will kill apps so things aren't running in the background. Just some Suggestions.
Afaik, you need a kernel that supports uc or oc.
raaghul said:
I rooted by device and installed the custom recovery. What are the things should I do in it, especially for reducing the heat on my phone?
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The 1st thing you should do now is go into recovery and perform a backup. Do this before anything else.
The 2nd thing you should do now is install something like Titanium Backup (worth the cost) and freeze any unnecessary apps such as any of the T-Mobile apps (except visual voicemail) and any carrierIQ related apps/services. There is a list around here somewhere of all the apps/services that are good to freeze to speed up the phone and remove bloat. Search around a bit. There are a few threads dedicated to debloating, increasing battery life, and increasing responsiveness.
After that, you may want to do some reading on xposed and g3 tweaksbox. It's really great and actually eliminated the desire to flash other ROMs for me. But before you go flashing/changing things, make sure you do plenty of reading first to ensure you do things right the first time.
As they say...
"Measure twice, cut once." <--- Live by this. Good luck and have fun! :highfive:
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Afaik, you need a kernel that supports uc or oc.
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Lol this is the first time I've been around at such an early stage of development. I forget some of the simple stuff cuz of it.
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Hi.
Finally I have found that solution.
It is to do aging cpu and gpu and wifi ap.
Through using stress test app, you can save your nexus 5x device in easy as if I had.
Of course I recommend you not root and update 2017 March update.
I have attached my device's running time capture image.
I thought the bootloop issues were found to be due to a manufacturing defect on the boards. Soldering specifically, with about 10% of devices
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You can think soldering for the reason of bootloop. But in manufacturing soldering problem does not happen to many devices. If such issue occurs, it will be rare case. And its not wrong development.
Voltage down is easily happened to old device not only mobile but also pc.
Many korean users also think soldering problem. It is sad.
I would like to say to a lot users like this. Study or search voltage down and device or pc shutdown or reboot. And aging makes high stability especially about high clock related to lower voltage or flat voltage degree.
The reason is good stress test with youtube on than gaming or watching video or web surfing is the stress test does not stop aging cpu,gpu and wifi ap.
So trust me. Unfornatedly i have reboot today. I will attach screenshot for running time of device periodly.
Just do try my solution. It is broadly spread way at pc. It works about mobile.
choijuho78 said:
Hi.
Finally I have found that solution.
It is to do aging cpu and gpu and wifi ap.
Through using stress test app, you can save your nexus 5x device in easy as if I had.
Of course I recommend you not root and update 2017 March update.
I have attached my device's running time capture image.
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How to use any stress test app IF my device never go after the google logo anymore??
Put finger on fingerprint sensor unit when you try boot. When you keep that even if boot fails many times, you will succeed to make dead device boot.
And added screenshot for running time of my nexus 5x after aging
It's there anyone who can make sense of this post?
The OP is extremely difficult to understand. I still don't understand what the solution exactly is even after reading about ten times.
Can you at least describe what you did?
Maybe tell us the steps you took to achieve the result so people can try for them selves.
Aging cpu and gpu and ap, it is to make chip bear heat for lower voltage because our nexus 5x are old and old things.
You might use dryer to back of phone in order to make device very warmer for the reason that soldering problem.
It looks like your solution. But as if a lot users used hand dryer who had experience, it is happening too.
Basically we must know aging mcu(cpu) makes cpu bear heat very well in condition of lower voltage because time passed for long time like one year or more than one year.
So how to make device aging or aged?
At pc, after overclock users always use prime 95 or such programs can make cpu aging.
So I had recommended users will uses stress test app to make their device aging.
At least a few hours aging needed. I recommend a couple of days for aging.
Voltage regulater exist, but it became to work in correct after a few years. I have tried that experiment for my device. Ot was successful.
If you believe my saying after thid explanation, just do run stress test for long time or periodly repeatidly.
peltus said:
It's there anyone who can make sense of this post?
The OP is extremely difficult to understand. I still don't understand what the solution exactly is even after reading about ten times.
Can you at least describe what you did?
Maybe tell us the steps you took to achieve the result so people can try for them selves.
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If I understand correctly, OP tries to show a method, which purpose is to check whether CPU soldering is going to become loose and lead the phone to endless bootloop.
He/she describes that stress testing the CPU worns it out a lot faster than everyday usage and then explains that people, who overclock their CPUs in PCs, are checking if the CPU can run on such core clock in a time trial, so we can also do such test (just without overclocking).
So:
If you want to check whether your phone is going to die soon, run a stress test. If the device doesn't restart during that test, you're good to go, else brace yourself.
But I think this is not a good method, beacuse if the SoC temperature will rise up to 105 Celsius degrees, the device will cut current flowing to the CPU to prevent damage (that's what thermal throttling is for).
To my mind, it is not a solution, this is rather a test for checking devices' long-term durability and reliability.
No. It is solution if expired warranty period.
You have to run stress test again even though device go shutdown during stress test.
At least a few days needed running stress test app.
Then your device will come back healthy.
przemcio510 said:
If I understand correctly, OP tries to show a method, which purpose is to check whether CPU soldering is going to become loose and lead the phone to endless bootloop.
He/she describes that stress testing the CPU worns it out a lot faster than everyday usage and then explains that people, who overclock their CPUs in PCs, are checking if the CPU can run on such core clock in a time trial, so we can also do such test (just without overclocking).
So:
If you want to check whether your phone is going to die soon, run a stress test. If the device doesn't restart during that test, you're good to go, else brace yourself.
But I think this is not a good method, beacuse if the SoC temperature will rise up to 105 Celsius degrees, the device will cut current flowing to the CPU to prevent damage (that's what thermal throttling is for).
To my mind, it is not a solution, this is rather a test for checking devices' long-term durability and reliability.
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"If you want to check whether your phone is going to die soon, run a stress test. If the device doesn't restart during that test, you're good to go, else brace yourself." he trying to say that to fix hardware bootloop (maybe caused by soldering issue), often you have to stress test your cpu, so it won't go in hardware bootlooop issue.
choijuho78 said:
Hi.
Finally I have found that solution.
It is to do aging cpu and gpu and wifi ap.
Through using stress test app, you can save your nexus 5x device in easy as if I had.
Of course I recommend you not root and update 2017 March update.
I have attached my device's running time capture image.
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OMG MAN. YOU ARE A LIFE SAVER. I JUST TRIED AND FIXED MY BROTHER'S 5X. THANK YOU MAN. I LOVE YOU.
My brother's phone went into bootloop today and I managed to get it to boot. Some days back I read your post and remembered this, so I quickly downloaded the stress test app and ran it. It has been 30 minutes since the device has been turned on. It hasn't frozen and did not reboot and go into bootloop again. I hope I can permanently fix this. Thank you sir you are a life saver. More people should see this thread and try this method.
choijuho78 said:
No. It is solution if expired warranty period.
You have to run stress test again even though device go shutdown during stress test.
At least a few days needed running stress test app.
Then your device will come back healthy.
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Can you tell me which app did you use for the stress test?
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But how to run stress test if we're in hardware bootloop? @choijuho78
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Can you tell me which app did you use for the stress test?
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same question here...
which app ?
This thread is bull**** and should be closed.
Hi, @choijuho78! Nexus 5X bootloops are really a nightmare! I don't mean to offend you, but some users are interested in your method. So, if you want, I can help you re-write your first post so that it is clearer for everyone. Maybe, some links to important programs, apps or procedures could be included to make it clearer. If you think I can help you somehow, feel free to answer this post or PM me. Thanks!
I used StabilityTest app.
And have run stress test in the app. You can repost for other users.