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does it support USB Mass Storage???
i connect device to PC via cable (debugging mode already on) but internal storage doesn't determines as removable... seems like it is in PC-mode only.
how to make it removable? i am former sgs2 user and the only thing i had to do is mark debugging mode, connect the device to PC, in status-bar choose removable device/mass storage.
You can't. It uses mtp
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There is no USB mass storage.
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Not sure if it's available for Windows but I use Android File Transfer for Mac and it lets me transfer files to and from my Verizon Galaxy Nexus.
http://www.android.com/filetransfer/
To expand a little - the GN doesn't do UMS because there's only one data partition, formatted as ext4. To make it support UMS you'd need to repartition it to have an extra fat32 partition, afaik no-one's done it nor said they're going to try.
MTP deals with the file system for you, should work OOTB for Windows Vista and 7 (MTP is a microsoft product) but winXP users seem to have problems.
Android file transfer does something similar for mac.
MTP is a pita under linux; I run Ubuntu and have switched to airdroid for doing transfers over wifi.
joshnichols189 said:
There is no USB mass storage.
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I don't see a difference though? As you can just plug it in your PC and put whatever file you want on it.
If you're running Linux you can also look into using sshfs and an SSH server on your phone. I use that now and it works great, even automatically reconnecting when I leave home and come back again. But I also had the SSH server (QuickSSHd) installed on my phone prior to this.
Tanith said:
I don't see a difference though? As you can just plug it in your PC and put whatever file you want on it.
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I don't see a difference either..
joshnichols189 said:
I don't see a difference either..
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The difference is most marked for those running linux, to a degree for mac users and also for some xp users.
If you're running Vista or Win7 you won't notice unless you're moving big files (say > 1Gb) - MTP is slower.
I couldn't move files to my nex from my PC either:/ ..so I started using drop box to move files back and forth
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Check out the StickMount app, if you use a ROM. With the right cable, you can mount a USB stick. Works great.
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I've read about this on the Galaxy Nexus but I'm not sure how it works. Is it like how my mom's Kodak point and shoot camera works, where it shows up as a device instead of a drive? Also where you can't show stuff like "size, date created, etc"?
It shows up like a camera, kinda. You can still get a "details" view of the files though in an explorer window (or with AFT on OSX).
I use OSX so sadly I am only able to share my experience from that perspective. I've only used MTP but when I connect it Android File Transfer comes up automatically. Its nothing more than a simple file explorer in which you can add or remove files but not move them around or anything like that. The big advantage of MTP however is that I am able to use the internal storage while the device is "mounted" on my computer.
It sucks a$$..just know that..I hate it its glitchy n slower than usb
mmmajor said:
It sucks a$$..just know that..I hate it its glitchy n slower than usb
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what kind of slow are we looking at? i'm currently used to 2.5MB/s transfer speeds with my "class 4" MicroSD card on my Epic Touch 4G.
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what kind of slow are we looking at? i'm currently used to 2.5MB/s transfer speeds with my "class 4" MicroSD card on my Epic Touch 4G.
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The transfer speed is the same... it's just USB2.0 speed. The tool/protocol in tandem with explorer can be kinda slow to respond though.
Using AFT on OSX, I've had no issues with speed. Its often even faster than UMS because there's no mount/unmount time.
My biggest gripe with AFT is that it crashes the USB stack on my MacBook Air, then the keyboard and trackpad stop working.
Anybody else have a similar issue?
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My biggest gripe with AFT is that it crashes the USB stack on my MacBook Air, then the keyboard and trackpad stop working.
Anybody else have a similar issue?
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Never happened to me before.
martonikaj said:
Never happened to me before.
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Yeah that doesn't happen to me either
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AFT freezes every time I try to use it. I'm using Airdroid now and it works really good.
Ngo93 said:
AFT freezes every time I try to use it. I'm using Airdroid now and it works really good.
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Its definitely finnicky. I do my best to unlock the device, plug in, transfer, and unplug. Get it done and get out!
My experience is it works great with Windows, but not in Ubuntu or Linux Mint & since I use Linux I don't like it. I use wifi explorer pro to transfer files.
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iLeopard said:
I use OSX so sadly I am only able to share my experience from that perspective. I've only used MTP but when I connect it Android File Transfer comes up automatically. Its nothing more than a simple file explorer in which you can add or remove files but not move them around or anything like that. The big advantage of MTP however is that I am able to use the internal storage while the device is "mounted" on my computer.
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I don't like it. I'm on Windows so it works naively. On my Galaxy S II you could just use a widget called Multi-Mount that allowed you to do the same thing, except they'd show up as normal drives (I say they because if you use the microSD slot in the S2, you get two drives, internal and microSD), not an MTP connection.
That's not the reason for using MTP though. MTP is being used because all of the device's memory is pretty much one one partition and anything beyond that is symlinked. So no more 2GB of app storage and 30GB of whatever. It's all app storage, file storage, etc. That's what makes the Galaxy Nexus's internal storage configuration different from any other phone's. They used MTP because, since the OS is also sharing the same big memory partition, it needs to be accessible by the CPU to continue running while you're transferring files.
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That's not the reason for using MTP though. MTP is being used because all of the device's memory is pretty much one one partition and anything beyond that is symlinked. So no more 2GB of app storage and 30GB of whatever. It's all app storage, file storage, etc.
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And this is why Google is going with single partition storage w/o expandability and MTP transfer. It's the best overall solution.
iLeopard said:
I use OSX so sadly I am only able to share my experience from that perspective. I've only used MTP but when I connect it Android File Transfer comes up automatically. Its nothing more than a simple file explorer in which you can add or remove files but not move them around or anything like that. The big advantage of MTP however is that I am able to use the internal storage while the device is "mounted" on my computer.
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And this is why Google is going with single partition storage w/o expandability and MTP transfer. It's the best overall solution.
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There was nothing stopping them from adding a microSD card slot though. It could have showed up normally. Like I said, on my Galaxy S2, through a normal connection, I have two drives show up. One is for the microSD card slot, and one is for the internal 16GB storage. They're non-MTP.
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There was nothing stopping them from adding a microSD card slot though. It could have showed up normally. Like I said, on my Galaxy S2, through a normal connection, I have two drives show up. One is for the microSD card slot, and one is for the internal 16GB storage. They're non-MTP.
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But it'd be the same bad experience of having separate storage areas and having MTP for part and UMS for the other part. Its best to just keep it all internal and use MTP.
just read up on the MTP transfer speeds. Looks like i'll have to go into CWM to transfer
Is it slow transferring from phone to PC also?
tracerit said:
just read up on the MTP transfer speeds. Looks like i'll have to go into CWM to transfer
Is it slow transferring from phone to PC also?
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Its not slow... At least on OSX it's been just fine as I said before.
Works great in windows. Can't get it working in Linux at all.
MTP is fast for me.
I transferred 3gb of video in about 10 minutes. Its not revolutionary, but its not slow.
I'm trying to connect my phone to my Father's Mini via usb, but the car does "see" the phone.
I've noticed that the check box for mass storage is greyed out and I cannot select it.
Does anyone have any good ideas for me to try out and get my gnex to connect?
For what it's worth, I'm using Liquid rom, and but my dad's HTC Desire HD running AOKP has the same problem, yet I have no problem connecting a BlackBerry.
Cheers.
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your nexus will never have mass storage as the partition is 1 giant partition used by the system and used for storage.
You will never be able to use USB Mass Storage on the Galaxy Nexus. It uses MTP (Media Transfer Protocol) and PTP (Picture Transfer Protocol) to xfer files between the phone and a PC.
The reason why they use this is to provide the phone with 1 partition for the entire storage, rather than separate system, apps, data and media partitions. It also allows for the OS to be running while accessing the files.
MTP is much better than Mass Storage.
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Thanks for the quick explanations. What I don't understand, is why the option is there under usb connections (in storage options). If the option is not available on our phone, why show it?
As far as MTP being better, it's not when you want to play music on a Mini!
I'm not convinced that MTP is my problem though, as my dad's phone (see above) will not connect either. Interestingly the option to select mass storage is not available on his HTC.
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itsfozzy said:
Thanks for the quick explanations. What I don't understand, is why the option is there under usb connections (in storage options). If the option is not available on our phone, why show it?
As far as MTP being better, it's not when you want to play music on a Mini!
I'm not convinced that MTP is my problem though, as my dad's phone (see above) will not connect either. Interestingly the option to select mass storage is not available on his HTC.
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ice cream sandwich supports mass storage, the nexus does not. the option is going to be there since it is stock android.
The HTC phone, did you actually select it to be in mass storage mode?
itsfozzy said:
As far as MTP being better, it's not when you want to play music on a Mini!
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can you elaborate? do you mean a Mini, as in the automobile?
JoeM01 said:
can you elaborate? do you mean a Mini, as in the automobile?
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im pretty sure he means the car.
Zepius said:
im pretty sure he means the car.
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If so, what's the problem? there's no shortage of people who connect their nexus to their car stereo's (myself included)
Quick bit of clarification.
Yes it's a BMW Mini (2009)
Yes I did connect via Mass Storage on the HTC, yet it still did not work. It would not connect to an iPod Classic either. I wonder if it needs a special cable to connect? My wife's Seat Leon needed a dedicated cable to make it compatible with the car stereo.
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If so, what's the problem? there's no shortage of people who connect their nexus to their car stereo's (myself included)
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They are trying to connect it through usb, and the vehicle will not communicate with a mtp device
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As of now, Android does NOT support USB audio, which explains why the Nexus nor the HTC worked. Blackberries DO support USB audio, as far as I'm aware.
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itsfozzy said:
Thanks for the quick explanations. What I don't understand, is why the option is there under usb connections (in storage options). If the option is not available on our phone, why show it?
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I take it you're using a custom ROM? The option is not there in standard ICS.
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As of now, Android does NOT support USB audio, which explains why the Nexus nor the HTC worked. Blackberries DO support USB audio, as far as I'm aware.
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I think what he's getting at like myself I used my Evo to USB to car CD player and could access my music files and play them and I guess that's cause the Evo has a sd card. now with the nexus i cant that IM aware of.
It's very annoying that we can't use UMS anymore. I know it's great, to have only one partition but MTP just sucks. I wasn't even able to copy files from Windows 7. The only system that has worked for me so far was Windows XP Pro.
I'd rather have a well sized Internal storage plus some Mass Storage 8/8GB or so.
And well, I'm mainly a PowerPC Mac user. Android File Transfer crashes all the time when I connect the phone (seems to use Intel-Only libraries which is very typical for Google) and on Intel Macs it's slow as hell.
So I always had to use ADB which was......very comfortable.
To the devs: Wouldn't it be possible to emulate a Mass Storage device thru software?
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land.apfel said:
To the devs: Wouldn't it be possible to emulate a Mass Storage device thru software?
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Keep in mind that wanting to maintain two separate partitions isn't the only reason for wanting to switch to MTP. Another reason was so we no longer had to store our data on the fragile and limited fat32 file system. In order to emulate a fat32 block device over USB you would need to be able to translate between fat32 and ext4 at a low level. I don't think there is generally a 1-1 mapping between structures in the two file systems which would make this difficult and slow if not impossible.
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MTP is much better than Mass Storage.
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At which point?
Some examples?
There are so many things, which dont work with MTP
I didnt found any advantages, yet
land.apfel said:
I know it's great, to have only one partition but MTP just sucks. I wasn't even able to copy files from Windows 7. The only system that has worked for me so far was Windows XP Pro.
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I don't like MTP either, and was missing being able to use it as a Mass Storage. My biggest annoyance with MTP is that I can't get last modified date Windows Explorer
I've not had any problems copying files to/from my Galaxy Nexus from one Windows 7 system, but another didn't work until I installed the Samsung drivers (the MTP device came up with a "?"). What was the problem you had?
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itsfozzy said:
Yes it's a BMW Mini (2009)
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LOL, because I first thought you meant a Mac Mini, but then realized you meant a car and thus a Mini Cooper... because no one I know calls it a BMW, even though it is.
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In order to emulate a fat32 block device over USB you would need to be able to translate between fat32 and ext4 at a low level. I don't think there is generally a 1-1 mapping between structures in the two file systems which would make this difficult and slow if not impossible.
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Why can't we just take the ext file system? Who cares what the Mass Storage is formatted for?
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Why can't we just take the ext file system? Who cares what the Mass Storage is formatted for?
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I'm not sure if that would work, but assuming it does, we then have to face the issue of the single partition storage that the Nexus has. If we were to mount it via UMS, the whole phone would become completely inoperable.
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The usb storage. MTS or whatever you call it . Very slow, terrible for navigating/editing multiple directories/windows at once. Frustrating. Can only find size of files by going in the directory and selecting all files. Anyone know of a good quick solution to this? I've played with the common game editor but don't really see it as encompassing the solution to all the problems of not having the classical USB mount
You think thats bad? Try having Mac. I can't even get it to recognize me phone lol. I'm forced to used my windows machine.
And I believe its a JB thing, not necessarily Samsung.
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g2tegg said:
You think thats bad? Try having Mac. I can't even get it to recognize me phone lol. I'm forced to used my windows machine.
And I believe its a JB thing, not necessarily Samsung.
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I had this problem too with my macbook pro then I found a solution tonight. Try this:
1. Install Kies if you haven't already, if you have make sure it's updated.
2. Connect your phone.
3. In Kies, click Tools, then Install Drivers (this will reinstall drivers
4. Download Android File Transfer.
Should work after this. Also make sure you have USB Debugging on and use PTP not MTP.
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I had this problem too with my macbook pro then I found a solution tonight. Try this:
1. Install Kies if you haven't already, if you have make sure it's updated.
2. Connect your phone.
3. In Kies, click Tools, then Install Drivers (this will reinstall drivers
4. Download Android File Transfer.
Should work after this. Also make sure you have USB Debugging on and use PTP not MTP.
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I will be sure to give this a shot tomorrow and send along an update. I rarely use Kies, updated it yesterday but never tried the drivers thing. Android file transfer never used to work but maybe the "install drivers" step is all that's needed.
And thats why I love it here on XDA. Thanks for the help brother!
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I agree... coming from a s2 skyrocket, I really miss UMS. Why bother having expandable storage when it takes hours to transfer to a class 10 32gb sd card? That is if I can get it to transfer at all.
I'm now resorting to unmounting sd card and putting it in the computer to transfer files...big PITA
SGS3 Easy UMS doesnt work either.
Edit: Actually, I'm using kies now... still miss drag and drop
Agreed. Always had driver problems with this phone. Sometimes it wouldn't connect because drivers failed to install or "bad hardware ID" pops up in the corner. Only way to get it to work was to restart comp. And it would only work until I disconnected it, then gotta restart again. -.-
I'm gonna switch back to linux once I get some free time. I recommend you do the same.
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And I believe its a JB thing, not necessarily Samsung.
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It was a problem in ICS as well. I think the reason for that they went with MTP is that users would create a "messy" file structure when they randomly dragged and dropped files anywhere on both the internal and external card. Samsung can keep things organized when they encourage you to use Samsung Kies to add files to the device.
The mandate for MTP is also to reduce piracy of protected media files by ensuring the DRM is properly done. In the past, I could connect my phone directly to my Samsung SMART TV and play 720/1080p movies via UMS. This is now blocked with MTP.
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It was a problem in ICS as well. I think the reason for that they went with MTP is that users would create a "messy" file structure when they randomly dragged and dropped files anywhere on both the internal and external card. Samsung can keep things organized when they encourage you to use Samsung Kies to add files to the device.
The mandate for MTP is also to reduce piracy of protected media files by ensuring the DRM is properly done. In the past, I could connect my phone directly to my Samsung SMART TV and play 720/1080p movies via UMS. This is now blocked with MTP.
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Thanks I also noticed the slow data transfer speed when I upgraded my SII to S3. Thought it was something I was doing wrong. I've changed the default transfer to PTP and will check it out tonight.
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I've changed the default transfer to PTP and will check it out tonight.
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Don't bother with PTP. PTP is just a camera. It's not like UMS so you might as well leave it on MTP
g2tegg said:
You think thats bad? Try having Mac. I can't even get it to recognize me phone lol. I'm forced to used my windows machine.
And I believe its a JB thing, not necessarily Samsung.
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I was annoyed by this as well. Now when I want to add something to my sd card I just take it out of the phone and put the sd card in my Mac and add files that way. It's a little annoying but its not that big of a deal.
I think the closest you'll get to a true UMS experience is using Samba Filesharing Server (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.funkyfresh.samba). You can then treat it like a network shared drive.
Of course you'll be limited by your WiFi speed. I think a possibility would be a USB host adapter and a USB ethernet adapter. I'm not sure if Android has support for a USB ethernet adapter but if that works then you should be able to connect to a gigabit switch/adapter and just be limited by USB2 speed.
It's not just this phone in general. They're all going that way as of ICS (Honeycomb as well) and up. If you use Windows it's not terrible but it is still slower. And yeah trying to use it with my Mac or even my Linux box is just frustrating. The primary reasoning was to merge the data and application volumes to give more space for applications. This is a better explanation of it. I do miss USB storage mode though.
Yep, totally frustrating for me also.
I remove my microSD card when I need to do lots of file management. But it's a clumsy workaround.
I am trying to share my NTFS formatted USB flash drive connected to my AFTV. I have tried samba server apps but they are limited somewhat. I got Ultimate Server Pro when it was free and was wondering if this is the best choice?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00E00C70C/ref=docs-os-doi_0
I am trying to access the usb flash drive from a Windows PC and wanted to treat it like a shared folder.
I don't think USB flash drives are supported (don't quote me, though) .
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I don't think USB flash drives are supported (don't quote me, though) .
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They are if you are rooted
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I have tried samba server apps but they are limited somewhat.
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What limitations are you talking about? I use sambadroid and i can access the ftv internal storage and the external usb drive just fine. I get low speeds though using wifi (i haven't tried wired to see if there is a difference).
But it works even after reboot just fine like i said.
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They are if you are rooted
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Great! Is Stickmount or equivalent needed?
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Great! Is Stickmount or equivalent needed?
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Yes, you need some way to mount your USB drive. StickMount or USB OTG Helper will do the job. Once the app mounts it, you can remount it to your desired location at boot. See the thread on Link2SD currently on the first page of this forum.
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What limitations are you talking about? I use sambadroid and i can access the ftv internal storage and the external usb drive just fine. I get low speeds though using wifi (i haven't tried wired to see if there is a difference).
But it works even after reboot just fine like i said.
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Turns out to be the files that are the issue and I had to format the USB as FAT32. I tried other video files and it doesn't have any issues. I am using samba file sharing and enabled keeping wifi awake and I get 2.5MB/s (really cheap USBs from costco)....thru wifi