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[Q] ROM change question from a still apparent newbie...

I've been running stock rooted 3.29 deodexed.
Finally decided to try out Myns Warm 2.2 today. Did a Titanium backup and a nand backup, flashed the new ROM. I wasn't expecting all my widgets, apps and homescreen settings to remain intact. Obviously I was pleasantly surprised when they were.
Two questions:
1) Is this normal behavior for any ROM (e.g., CM6) or just because Warm2.2 is a Sense-based ROM? How did it even know all my homescreen settings? Did Titanium restore them without my asking? (Yes I know that's three questions in one, sorry)
2) Why were all my homescreen icons/widgets doubled up on top of eachother?
I know these are probably basic questions but just based on everything I've read I was expecting to have to install Ti backup, restore my apps, and then re-setup my homescreens. So this was just really surprising to me.

Just noticed that it also retained the flash that I applied for the 4-in-1 reboot mode (hot reboot, recovery, etc). Color me confused.

Shane112358 said:
I've been running stock rooted 3.29 deodexed.
Finally decided to try out Myns Warm 2.2 today. Did a Titanium backup and a nand backup, flashed the new ROM. I wasn't expecting all my widgets, apps and homescreen settings to remain intact. Obviously I was pleasantly surprised when they were.
Two questions:
1) Is this normal behavior for any ROM (e.g., CM6) or just because Warm2.2 is a Sense-based ROM? How did it even know all my homescreen settings? Did Titanium restore them without my asking? (Yes I know that's three questions in one, sorry)
2) Why were all my homescreen icons/widgets doubled up on top of eachother?
I know these are probably basic questions but just based on everything I've read I was expecting to have to install Ti backup, restore my apps, and then re-setup my homescreens. So this was just really surprising to me.
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Hi there...well, as a noob myself I have learned that when you flash any NEW ROMS from different developers, you MUST wipe DATA, CACHE & DAVLIK/CACHE 1st. If you are upgrading from Myn Warms 2.2 3.29 OTA to 3.30 then you usually don' have to unless they tell you to. That's why your icons/widges are doubled up. Can't go from Stock rooted ROM to Myns...different development.
It will wipe everything on your system and install the ROM brand new as if you bought your phone that way. Items in your SD card will remain there...it does not wipe that. The NAND backup is good if for some reason your EVO goes haywire you can just do the old fashion Bootloader and go into recovery and get everything back. (I actually do this once a week just incase I need to go back to a place when my EVO was perfect...I delete any old ones so that I don't get confused.)
Once you flash the new ROM then go into titanium back up and restore everything. I use Mybackup Pro (Free for 30days to try out)...it saves my home/android screen so That I don't have to reset everything I have except for login into my POP mail server. Not a fan of Titanium but a lot of people seems to like it.
You may need to restore your Evo to that NAND you just did, then WIPE...then flash Myns. Also Myns ROM has the 4-1 reboot. I hope this helps...

Well that explains the 4-in-1 but I did wipe my cache and dalvik cache twice before flashing Warm2.2. I was not on Warm2.2 so this was a change from stock to Warm2.2. So I still don't see how all my settings were retained.
I'm not looking for a "clean" install of Warm2.2 - I'm merely trying to understand why it happened this way when I thought that it wasn't supposed to, and if this behavior is normal.

And just out of curiosity why don't you like Ti backup? I've always wondered if it really serves any good purpose since it seems like Nand backups all my apps anyways....?

Shane112358 said:
Well that explains the 4-in-1 but I did wipe my cache and dalvik cache twice before flashing Warm2.2. I was not on Warm2.2 so this was a change from stock to Warm2.2. So I still don't see how all my settings were retained.
I'm not looking for a "clean" install of Warm2.2 - I'm merely trying to understand why it happened this way when I thought that it wasn't supposed to, and if this behavior is normal.
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Unfortunately you will need to do a clean install when you go from one ROM to another. Even if the other ROM is a rooted stock ROM...still someone's ROM they created with the stock OTA.
You have to wipe DATA too, no way around it....because the system is rooted and different developers change the path to what they want to do with their ROM you can't flash MYNS on top of someone else's rooted stock ROM. It will conflict with one another (hence the overlapping of icons/widgets). That's why they created apps like Titanium and Mybackup Pro because it will be like a clean phone you just bought and instead of taking hours to set up your phone again...do a restore from one of the programs and you will be up and running with the new ROM.
I love Myn's ROM...

Shane112358 said:
And just out of curiosity why don't you like Ti backup? I've always wondered if it really serves any good purpose since it seems like Nand backups all my apps anyways....?
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The way I view NAND backup is like a system restore on your PC. I don't use it unless I want to make sure there is a good location for me to go back to just in case my EVO acts up.
I tried titanium backup...visually it doesn't give me confidence as a noob...mybackup pro is very simple and does its purpose.

honeyBfly said:
Unfortunately you will need to do a clean install when you go from one ROM to another. Even if the other ROM is a rooted stock ROM...still someone's ROM they created with the stock OTA.
You have to wipe DATA too, no way around it....because the system is rooted and different developers change the path to what they want to do with their ROM you can't flash MYNS on top of someone else's rooted stock ROM. It will conflict with one another (hence the overlapping of icons/widgets). That's why they created apps like Titanium and Mybackup Pro because it will be like a clean phone you just bought and instead of taking hours to set up your phone again...do a restore from one of the programs and you will be up and running with the new ROM.
I love Myn's ROM...
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Yeah I think I discovered your point. Myns ROM works flawlessly going from stock to Myns without a data wipe. But I just put on CM6 and had several FC and launcher problems. For some reason I never thought that wipe also meant data wipe...I was probably just trained by all the mod flashes I've been doing....

Shane112358 said:
Yeah I think I discovered your point. Myns ROM works flawlessly going from stock to Myns without a data wipe. But I just put on CM6 and had several FC and launcher problems. For some reason I never thought that wipe also meant data wipe...I was probably just trained by all the mod flashes I've been doing....
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I was always told to wipe everything when flashing one ROM to the next. But only wipe cache & Davlik/cache if your flash themes...Kernels or different MODS.

Two questions for you two since you both seem to know what you're doing
1. Did either of you use the special recovery images? (Clockwork/AmonRA)
2. I backup everything to Titanium Backup Pro...but if i wipe EVERYTHING that means Titanium Backup Pro will be gone as well...so how am I supposed to get everything restored if the app is gone?

1) Not sure, I use clockwork recovery but don't know what a special recovery image is.
2) My understanding is that you have to reinstall Ti backup, and whence forth it will find the old restore files that you can use to restore your apps.

Whenever installing a new rom it is best to do a FULL wipe meaning data,cache, and davlik. Even though there may not be any problems initially upon use, there will likely be some down the road. It's your phone though, do as you please.
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RTC88 said:
Whenever installing a new rom it is best to do a FULL wipe meaning data,cache, and davlik. Even though there may not be any problems initially upon use, there will likely be some down the road. It's your phone though, do as you please.
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So I did a full wipe last night and installed CM6. It installed just fine but my data didn't work....kept telling me that I didn't have a SIM installed. I could make phone calls though. I'll have to try again tonight but I did a restore so I had a functional phone today. Any idea why that happens?
Also I did a full backup with My Backup Pro so I'm assuming I can just reinstall My Backup Pro and it will find my backed-up data for restoration?

Could be a network problem on sprint's side.
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R1pTheJacka said:
Two questions for you two since you both seem to know what you're doing
1. Did either of you use the special recovery images? (Clockwork/AmonRA)
2. I backup everything to Titanium Backup Pro...but if i wipe EVERYTHING that means Titanium Backup Pro will be gone as well...so how am I supposed to get everything restored if the app is gone?
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1. Yes...AmonRA.
2. When you use an APP like Titanium and Mybackup Pro...it saves your backup to your SD card and a full wipe does not wipe external memory cards only internal system stuff. So once you wipe and flash a new ROM...you need to go to market first and foremost to download whichever backup program you used and then order it to restore your phone. It will know the path in which it used to back everything up and pull from there. Follow the prompts.

[Q] Proper backup help

I am running Virtuous and it is running smooth as butter, but I would like to try one of the CM7 nighly, and want to be able to go back if need be with out hours of work. I am running clockwork recovery and rom manager, and also have titaium back up installed. Phone is rooted with s-off. Can I just run a back up from rom manager do a complete wipe and install CM7. I also need to update hboot from .79 to .92 should this be done prior to the rom manager back up. Should CM7 not work out how do I restore back? Thanks

Yeah just nandroid (which means backing up the rom and all your settings) and you can go back at any time. In Rom manager just go to Backup current Rom and you will always have a copy of your setup EXACTLY as it is.
You can update HBOOT whenever you want, it really doesn't matter when you do it. Once you do it will stay that way.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't doing a nandroid backup essentially make a complete clone of your entire phone that you can restore later?

eman5oh said:
I am running Virtuous and it is running smooth as butter, but I would like to try one of the CM7 nighly, and want to be able to go back if need be with out hours of work. I am running clockwork recovery and rom manager, and also have titaium back up installed. Phone is rooted with s-off. Can I just run a back up from rom manager do a complete wipe and install CM7. I also need to update hboot from .79 to .92 should this be done prior to the rom manager back up. Should CM7 not work out how do I restore back? Thanks
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Okay, here's what you to do back up:
1. Back up your apps with Titanium Backup - DO NOT BACK UP PHONE DATA. Backing up data for games (e.g. Angry Birds) is fine, but don't back up contacts or Gmail or anything that's going to be included in your new ROM. Reason is, when you restore everything (more on that later), you don't want to have conflicting data screwing things up.
2. Make a nandroid using ROM Manager. Just go to where it says backup current rom, and let it do it's magic. You can (and should) rename it to something you can remember. DO NOT USE SPACES. I like to name mine with the date, ROM name, and version number (e.g. 2-3-11_Virtuous_3.1.0)
3. After the backup finishes, install the new ROM - I always do this through ROM Manager.
4. When CM7 is finished installing, download Titanium Backup and restore your apps using the batch operation - it's a lot simpler than trying to find all your apps and download/install them yourself
5. To go back, simply click "Restore Backup" in ROM Manager and pick Virtuous and all your hard work will be restored
Enjoy!

I've had lots of trouble with ROM manager not restoring or backing up my current ROM properly.....it'll always say that the installation was aborted or say the file is corrupt
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AlpineM3 said:
I've had lots of trouble with ROM manager not restoring or backing up my current ROM properly.....it'll always say that the installation was aborted or say the file is corrupt
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How much free space is left on your card? Format and try it with a clean card. I have never had a problem with it restoring anything of mine.

Zoon0n said:
Okay, here's what you to do back up:
1. Back up your apps with Titanium Backup - DO NOT BACK UP PHONE DATA. Backing up data for games (e.g. Angry Birds) is fine, but don't back up contacts or Gmail or anything that's going to be included in your new ROM. Reason is, when you restore everything (more on that later), you don't want to have conflicting data screwing things up.
2. Make a nandroid using ROM Manager. Just go to where it says backup current rom, and let it do it's magic. You can (and should) rename it to something you can remember. DO NOT USE SPACES. I like to name mine with the date, ROM name, and version number (e.g. 2-3-11_Virtuous_3.1.0)
3. After the backup finishes, install the new ROM - I always do this through ROM Manager.
4. When CM7 is finished installing, download Titanium Backup and restore your apps using the batch operation - it's a lot simpler than trying to find all your apps and download/install them yourself
5. To go back, simply click "Restore Backup" in ROM Manager and pick Virtuous and all your hard work will be restored
Enjoy!
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Am I asking for trouble when backing up apps via titium, and switching roms? I thought that I read that somewhere? I have used app brain to do the restores, but it is a little slow. Also Thanks to everyone for the replies.

I've read that the newer versions of Clockwork are troublesome....anything after 2.5.05. I just went in and erased any previous ROM's that I don't use anymore to free up valuable space on the SD card. Hopefully it works, but the message error i've been getting......well not a message error, but my phone seems to freeze up while developing MD5sum. I read to leave it alone and it might take 10 min's actually, but just want to confirm this is true. Thanks.
g00s3y said:
How much free space is left on your card? Format and try it with a clean card. I have never had a problem with it restoring anything of mine.
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AlpineM3 said:
I've read that the newer versions of Clockwork are troublesome....anything after 2.5.05. I just went in and erased any previous ROM's that I don't use anymore to free up valuable space on the SD card. Hopefully it works, but the message error i've been getting......well not a message error, but my phone seems to freeze up while developing MD5sum. I read to leave it alone and it might take 10 min's actually, but just want to confirm this is true. Thanks.
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I use 2.5.1.2 and have never personally had any problem, sorry.

eman5oh said:
Am I asking for trouble when backing up apps via titium, and switching roms? I thought that I read that somewhere? I have used app brain to do the restores, but it is a little slow. Also Thanks to everyone for the replies.
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I've gone from Stock to Virtuous to MIUI to CyanogenMod and I can say definitively that I have never had any problems with Titanium backing up/restoring apps. You are asking for trouble if you try to back up system data and restore it for ROM's that they were never intended for - just back up the apps you downloaded from the market/installed yourself and you'll be fine

So here is what I did,
1 Did a Rom back up from Rom manager
2 Backed up user apps with Titanium Pro
3 Updated Clock Work Mod to 2.5.1.2
4 Flashed Hboot from .79 to .92
This is were ran into a problem, after hboot flashed it just went into a boot loop were all I could do is go into hboot or clock work recovery but that is it phone would not boot. I searched a little and read that hboot wipes the kernal and that is why it will not reboot. I then went into clockwork and restored the rom I backed up in step 1, and it worked like a charm. Thought I would share so any one else who runs into this. Now off to flash cm7!

Rocking CM7 now, Thanks for all the help and advice from everyone. The Android community rocks.

Urgent Help required, phone faulty after update

Hey there,
I have been running a froyo villainrom (1.6 i think) on my DHD and it was all running fine. I decided to update to the new CM7 so did a backup and wiped everything then flashed the new rom. It stayed on the loading screen for more than 20 mins. Eventually it turned off, each time i turned it on it did the same thing until finally it booted but I was greeted with force closes of the quick start, the keyboard, plus a whole lot of other stuff i dont remember. I decided to reflash CM7 and I ended up with the same problem, except this time it told me my SD card was faulty, I tried rebooting, removing and replacing teh SD card and kept getting the same error. Even my computer wont mount it
I got a spare card from the draw and put CM7 on that and the exact same problem occured, although this time when put into a PC i got the option of formatting it so I did. I then downloaded a CLeanDHD rom and flashed that after wiping everything once again. I still get force closes and cant get past inputting my google account details without the phone reseting again.
I cant restore to my backup as the phone does not recognise the card I made the backup on, nor can I access that card using my computer.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Im using clockwork mod 3.0.0.6
Thanks in advance

02keilj said:
Hey there,
I have been running a froyo villainrom (1.6 i think) on my DHD and it was all running fine. I decided to update to the new CM7 so did a backup and wiped everything then flashed the new rom. It stayed on the loading screen for more than 20 mins. Eventually it turned off, each time i turned it on it did the same thing until finally it booted but I was greeted with force closes of the quick start, the keyboard, plus a whole lot of other stuff i dont remember. I decided to reflash CM7 and I ended up with the same problem, except this time it told me my SD card was faulty, I tried rebooting, removing and replacing teh SD card and kept getting the same error. Even my computer wont mount it
I got a spare card from the draw and put CM7 on that and the exact same problem occured, although this time when put into a PC i got the option of formatting it so I did. I then downloaded a CLeanDHD rom and flashed that after wiping everything once again. I still get force closes and cant get past inputting my google account details without the phone reseting again.
I cant restore to my backup as the phone does not recognise the card I made the backup on, nor can I access that card using my computer.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Im using clockwork mod 3.0.0.6
Thanks in advance
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who is your provider? im not 100% on this on the desire hd, but on the standard desire, you would find your providers RUU rom then flash that to return you to stock then youd have too reroot. but like i said, imma desire user who just got a dhd, so ask some1 with alil more knowldge

Did you do a full wipe, before flashing CM7? If not run one now (i.e wipe /system / cache /data and /dalvik-cache from CWR) before re-flashing CM7. With multiple FC's that is normally the issue, going back to a non cm ROM, not entirely sure about CleanDroid, is problematic without carrying out a full wipe also and may even require using an older version of CWR, see CleanDroid thread for more info on that.

Thanks for the replies guys, yes I did a full wipe of cache/dalvik and factory before flashing.
If i were to try and install a stock rom and was greeted with force closes again, what would that mean about having to re-root the device? I dont want to really loose root access if im going to have to keep trying to fix it

Ok so ive decided to restore it to stock rom. Will this be possible if my phone cant connect to the PC to sync with HTC sync?

02keilj said:
Thanks for the replies guys, yes I did a full wipe of cache/dalvik and factory before flashing.
If i were to try and install a stock rom and was greeted with force closes again, what would that mean about having to re-root the device? I dont want to really loose root access if im going to have to keep trying to fix it
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it's 90% about wiping problem. maybe you missed "format data"
make sure you have cwm 3.0.0.6 and do full wipe ( i personally recommended full wipe 1.3 here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=868720 , don't do it manually if this is your first time flashing custom rom. )
before that, make sure you have the working .zip rom. check md5 before transfer to sdcard. then do this step .
cwm -> install zip from sdcard -> choose zip from sdcard -> full wipe 1.3.zip -> choose zip from sdcard -> "your-rom-to-flash".zip -> reboot .

hedayat7 said:
it's 90% about wiping problem. maybe you missed "format data"
make sure you have cwm 3.0.0.6 and do full wipe ( i personally recommended full wipe 1.3 here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=868720 , don't do it manually if this is your first time flashing custom rom. )
before that, make sure you have the working .zip rom. check md5 before transfer to sdcard. then do this step .
cwm -> install zip from sdcard -> choose zip from sdcard -> full wipe 1.3.zip -> choose zip from sdcard -> "your-rom-to-flash".zip -> reboot .
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Thanks, I have made sure I didnt miss the full wipe. Ive re-tried wiping and flashing between CM7 and CleadDHD at least 20 times with the same problems. I think ill format my SD card and then copy the files across again. Ill also try the Full wipe 1.3 and see if that helps.
Im wondering if my friend makes a backup of his DHD through Clockwork 3.0.0.6 and then copies the backup file from his SD card to mine, will I be able to restore that backup?
Then from there I can factory reset again to wipe his saved settings?
Thanks for the replies so far guys
Is it possible my clockwork is faulty? I treid updating it through rom manager prior to flashing CM7 and it failed but i assumed it just reverted back to what I already had before. Is there a way I can reinstall clockwork through the current version?

nice idea .. take your friend's sd card that have nandroid backup, and then restore back the nandroid. i think it will work.

hedayat7 said:
nice idea .. take your friend's sd card that have nandroid backup, and then restore back the nandroid. i think it will work.
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I will probably make a copy of it rather than use theirs, just in case it ruins their card like it did mine. Would I have to copy their EXT partition data too? If so I can easilly do that in ubuntu yes?

[Q] Force closes long lag times, other problems so un-root/re-root or something else?

So, I have been having some major problems with my phone. Tons of force closes, major lag times and things like that. I have tried a handful of different ROMs, including CM7, the nightlys, Miui and a few others. I hear great stories about people and rooting and I want to be one of them. I am tired of all the hassles. So, when talking to someone in the office who has had no issues with his Droid 2, he suggested, and said he has read, the best thing to do is go back to stock, unroot, as they will remove all possible conflicting files that could be causing problems. Then, re-root, and install whatever.
Any thoughts on that? Generally, my process for installing a new ROM, I boot into recovery manually, clean cache, clean Dalvik, then install ROM. Then, I restore apps and data from Titanium and restore the Nandroid from Rom Manager. The past couple times, I have done the factory reset, but eventually, a day or 2, it goes back to the same problems. Maybe, I should just try it without the restoring the Nandroid (even though it is a backup from when there was no problems) and the app data from Titanium. I assume, you know what happens when you assume, that both the Nandroid and Titanium backups are clean as I backed up when I was having no issues.
So, any thoughts here? Unroot, then re-root or is there something else I should try to wipe everything clean to solve the problems? Currently, on the original Droid Incredible (got it on the release day, so the first screen), running 2.2 when I rooted, currently on Miui 1.9.16, but just installed it 10 minutes ago and was running the Cyanogen nightly's before hand..
Thanks in advance

When flashing a new ROM you should always do the following before flashing, especially if you're flashing completely different ROMs:
Wipe user data/factory reset
Mounts and Storage - format /system, format /boot, format /data, format /cache
Advanced - Wipe Dalvik, Wipe Battery Stats
Then flash the ROM zip.
Try not restoring apps and data from Titanium, as restoring the app is okay, but restoring data can cause unwanted things to happen more times than not.
When you say restore nandroid from ROM Manager, what do you mean here? A nandroid is backing up your ROM via ROM Manager, which gets stored to your clockworkmod/backups folder...you shouldn't be pulling anything from that...
If you flash the RUU to return to stock and re-root, make sure you use the 2.2 RUU. If you use the 2.3, you need to be s-off to get rooted again. If you use the 2.3 RUU and you're s-on, no root for you...come back one year.

The ONLY time you want to restore a nandroid backup is if you've wiped your device clean and want to return to a previously backed up setup. You should never restore a nandroid backup over a ROM you've just installed. If that's what you're doing, that's your problem. You're effectively replacing whatever ROM you just flashed in it's entirety.
As for Titanium, I restore apps with data all the time, but system data should almost never be restored as it's OS and app version specific. Basically, if it's green, it's safe. If it's red, don't mess with it. If it's white, like a user app, app and data are usually safe to restore.
ROM Manager is a bigger pain in the ass than it's worth and is useless for anything more than flashing a new recovery. If my recovery is working reliably, I never install ROM manager. Most devs will tell you to never flash with ROM manager anyways. Any function that ROM Manager performs can be performed in recovery in a safer, more reliable fashion.

loonatik78 said:
The ONLY time you want to restore a nandroid backup is if you've wiped your device clean and want to return to a previously backed up setup. You should never restore a nandroid backup over a ROM you've just installed. If that's what you're doing, that's your problem. You're effectively replacing whatever ROM you just flashed in it's entirety.
As for Titanium, I restore apps with data all the time, but system data should almost never be restored as it's OS and app version specific. Basically, if it's green, it's safe. If it's red, don't mess with it. If it's white, like a user app, app and data are usually safe to restore.
ROM Manager is a bigger pain in the ass than it's worth and is useless for anything more than flashing a new recovery. If my recovery is working reliably, I never install ROM manager. Most devs will tell you to never flash with ROM manager anyways. Any function that ROM Manager performs can be performed in recovery in a safer, more reliable fashion.
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Thanks for the correction, I forgot to put system in there...restoring system data is not good.
+1 on ROM Manager issues, always get a zip file of the ROM, and flash through recovery.

RMarkwald said:
When flashing a new ROM you should always do the following before flashing, especially if you're flashing completely different ROMs:
Wipe user data/factory reset
Mounts and Storage - format /system, format /boot, format /data, format /cache
Advanced - Wipe Dalvik, Wipe Battery Stats
Then flash the ROM zip.
When you say restore nandroid from ROM Manager, what do you mean here? A nandroid is backing up your ROM via ROM Manager, which gets stored to your clockworkmod/backups folder...you shouldn't be pulling anything from that....
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That is pretty much what I do, except for the Mounts and Storage parts.
For the Nandroid part, maybe I have my terminology mixed up. I do a restore from Rom Manager...which I thought was called the Nandroid backup. It seems to me, that it makes sure the launcher and things are set up right.
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The ONLY time you want to restore a nandroid backup is if you've wiped your device clean and want to return to a previously backed up setup. You should never restore a nandroid backup over a ROM you've just installed. If that's what you're doing, that's your problem. You're effectively replacing whatever ROM you just flashed in it's entirety.
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I rarely use the ROM Manager to do anything, just restore (what I thought was called the Nandroid) to make the launcher the way things were..
But it seems like that is my problem. I am installed the new ROM, then just restoring a back up of all the problems. DUH.. Guess I should try it all without restoring anything from the ROM Manager and see how it all works. That will be my project tonight..
Thanks

MikeDaub said:
That is pretty much what I do, except for the Mounts and Storage parts.
For the Nandroid part, maybe I have my terminology mixed up. I do a restore from Rom Manager...which I thought was called the Nandroid backup. It seems to me, that it makes sure the launcher and things are set up right.
I rarely use the ROM Manager to do anything, just restore (what I thought was called the Nandroid) to make the launcher the way things were..
But it seems like that is my problem. I am installed the new ROM, then just restoring a back up of all the problems. DUH.. Guess I should try it all without restoring anything from the ROM Manager and see how it all works. That will be my project tonight..
Thanks
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If you want to restore your launcher, try it through Titanium Backup. If that doesn't do it, and I can't promise you it will work correctly, you're probably SOL on restoring a launcher unless some other backup app does the job better.

loonatik78 said:
If you want to restore your launcher, try it through Titanium Backup. If that doesn't do it, and I can't promise you it will work correctly, you're probably SOL on restoring a launcher unless some other backup app does the job better.
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I am fine with not restoring it, I just thought "that is what you should do".
I don't venture too far from the regular settings, so it isn't a pain to do, just thought I should...

RMarkwald said:
When flashing a new ROM you should always do the following before flashing, especially if you're flashing completely different ROMs:
Wipe user data/factory reset
Mounts and Storage - format /system, format /boot, format /data, format /cache
Advanced - Wipe Dalvik, Wipe Battery Stats
Then flash the ROM zip.
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One more quick question since I am thinking of it....is this same process if doing nightly updates from Cyanogen, or just is I change from say, Cyanogen to Miui or something??
Thanks again for all the help..

MikeDaub said:
One more quick question since I am thinking of it....is this same process if doing nightly updates from Cyanogen, or just is I change from say, Cyanogen to Miui or something??
Thanks again for all the help..
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Generally, CM nightlies can be flashed over top of each other without a wipe since the vast majority of the code is identical. However, if an issue crops up, a wipe and flash might be a good thing to try. Probably won't help though, since nightlies, by definition, are experimental.
Always wipe and flash when moving from one ROM type to another.

loonatik78 said:
Generally, CM nightlies can be flashed over top of each other without a wipe since the vast majority of the code is identical. However, if an issue crops up, a wipe and flash might be a good thing to try. Probably won't help though, since nightlies, by definition, are experimental.
Always wipe and flash when moving from one ROM type to another.
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That's kinda what I figured, but I thought it was worth asking so I don't completely wipe the whole thing every time I install an update. The nightly I am on now seems to be working, so the new plan is keep whats working until it doesn't work anymore, or some major update comes along..
Thanks again for the help. I really appreciate it.

If the issue continues you can try copying everything off of your SD card to your PC and reformatting your SD card. Remember to use FAT32 format. Then copy everything back to your SD card. I've read threads were this helped the force close issues for many people - Just a thought.

jackbtha1 said:
If the issue continues you can try copying everything off of your SD card to your PC and reformatting your SD card. Remember to use FAT32 format. Then copy everything back to your SD card. I've read threads were this helped the force close issues for many people - Just a thought.
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Certainly worth a thought. The card that is in it now came from a different phone. I am pretty sure I formatted it when I first plugged it in, but it can't hurt to try...
Thanks

[Q] Factory reset rooted DHD

Hello all.
I have had my DHD for over a year now and I rooted it as soon as I could. My reasons for rooting were to remove some of the stock installed apps (facebook, stocks etc). After a year though now my phone is jammed full of crap so i want to do a factory reset and wipe the phone clean and start from scratch. Am I able to do this having rooted?
Once I have cleaned the phone (by whatever means) i will be looking into the customs roms to try and change the look and feel of my phone for hopefully another happy year with my DHD.
Thanks in advance
Craig

Anyone able to help?

You have a lot of ways to do that...
one of them is to backup your apps and contacts and go to recovery, then wipe the phone and reinstall last rom or other roms...
my idea is to change your rom and try someone else...
and enjoy you phone...
so finally:
do a backup, go to recovery, do a wipe ( you can use android revelotion super wipe), reinstall rom or try another rom, and finally...enjoy...
Merry Christmas buddy...

A few things that I do.
Check out some rom screenshots and threads to see which roms interest you.
Backup your current APN to your sdcard with APN Backup & Restore so you can restore it with future roms. (So that you can make sure you are using the correct login/password etc. to connect to your carrier's data network.)
Make sure that APN Backup & Restore's apk is also on your sdcard so that you can install it from your card and not the Android Market.
Get Rom Manager on your phone so that you can easily reboot into recovery when you are ready to flash a new rom.
Make sure you have the new rom on your SD card waiting to be flashed.
Then when you are ready, reboot into recovery with Rom Manager.
Then once in ClockworkMod Recovery choose wipe data/factory reset and do that.
Then in advanced - wipe dalvik cache and then wipe battery stats.
(Then in mounts and storage - I also format system.)
Then install zip from sdcard - choose zip from sdcard - choose rom file and flash away.
Be patient as the first boot up from flashing a rom can take a long time.
Once it boots up - disable data. Install APN Backup & Restore from your sdcard. Then delete the APNs that come with the new rom. Restore your original carrier APN from the backup you made. Then you can connect to the net with the correct settings and not get charged for the wrong data connection regardless of your contract. (I admit I'm sensitive to this, as it cost me a $1000 in data fees a few years ago here in Japan with Windows Mobile and SoftBank when I flashed and used the wrong APN regardless of my unlimited packet contract.)
Anyway, these are things I do which you might consider.
I don't usually lose root doing the sequence above.
Of course read the rom thread main pages to see if anything special applies.
Good luck. There are a few rom screenshots in my sig. I currently use MIUIAndroid. (It's updated every week.)
Good luck.
ps. You might want to format your sdcard before you do any of the above too, just to really clean things up. Don't forget to backup your data to your PC or something if you do.
Sorry - I didn't see the post above this one..

miladhalibak said:
You have a lot of ways to do that...
one of them is to backup your apps and contacts and go to recovery, then wipe the phone and reinstall last rom or other roms...
my idea is to change your rom and try someone else...
and enjoy you phone...
so finally:
do a backup, go to recovery, do a wipe ( you can use android revelotion super wipe), reinstall rom or try another rom, and finally...enjoy...
Merry Christmas buddy...
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Thanks for the info. I first formatted the SD, then backed up contacts, sms and apps. What do I press when I boot into recovery?
Once i have perforformed the wipe am I able to to the reload my stock ROM before i look into flashing a custom one?
Grant Barker said:
A few things that I do.
Check out some rom screenshots and threads to see which roms interest you.
Backup your current APN to your sdcard with APN Backup & Restore so you can restore it with future roms. (So that you can make sure you are using the correct login/password etc. to connect to your carrier's data network.)
Make sure that APN Backup & Restore's apk is also on your sdcard so that you can install it from your card and not the Android Market.
Get Rom Manager on your phone so that you can easily reboot into recovery when you are ready to flash a new rom.
Make sure you have the new rom on your SD card waiting to be flashed.
Then when you are ready, reboot into recovery with Rom Manager.
Then once in ClockworkMod Recovery choose wipe data/factory reset and do that.
Then in advanced - wipe dalvik cache and then wipe battery stats.
(Then in mounts and storage - I also format system.)
Then install zip from sdcard - choose zip from sdcard - choose rom file and flash away.
Be patient as the first boot up from flashing a rom can take a long time.
Once it boots up - disable data. Install APN Backup & Restore from your sdcard. Then delete the APNs that come with the new rom. Restore your original carrier APN from the backup you made. Then you can connect to the net with the correct settings and not get charged for the wrong data connection regardless of your contract. (I admit I'm sensitive to this, as it cost me a $1000 in data fees a few years ago here in Japan with Windows Mobile and SoftBank when I flashed and used the wrong APN regardless of my unlimited packet contract.)
Anyway, these are things I do which you might consider.
I don't usually lose root doing the sequence above.
Of course read the rom thread main pages to see if anything special applies.
Good luck. There are a few rom screenshots in my sig. I currently use MIUIAndroid. (It's updated every week.)
Good luck.
ps. You might want to format your sdcard before you do any of the above too, just to really clean things up. Don't forget to backup your data to your PC or something if you do.
Sorry - I didn't see the post above this one..
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I will make sure I back up my APN then also. Anything else worth backing up?
I have had a look at the screenshots shown on your site, that helped thanks, but as said before, am i able to reload the stock rom, basically return to where i am now, but with a blank canvas?
Thanks again

Any pointers?

I can't remember but I think a simple factory reset via your current original rom will give you the blank canvas you want, but I think you'll lose root.
Someone else please confirm this or not? Do we lose root by doing a simple factory reset?
If that's the case and you don't mind losing root (until you root again) and you want the original rom you currently have then just do a factory reset via phone settings. The other stuff in the other post is for if you are changing rom completely. If you are going to use the same original rom you use now which came with your phone, then the APN settings will be the same and will be there again after you reset.

No you will not lose root!
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